Post by: purplelady1040 on January 23, 2019, 05:01:39 pm
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 23, 2019, 05:54:43 pm
Post by: guest39 on January 23, 2019, 06:31:36 pm
So what's everyone's views on the Covington Catholic kids and the issue there? I think to be honest, everyone was in the wrong.I agree...seems like EVERYTHING gets blown out of proportion nowadays....
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 23, 2019, 06:59:18 pm
I agree...seems like EVERYTHING gets blown out of proportion nowadays....Yep and media blows it out of proportion
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on January 23, 2019, 10:00:33 pm
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/1/22/18192933/covington-catholic-maga-teen-nick-sandmann-hat
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 24, 2019, 07:26:37 am
From VoxSad and hate that people threatened the kids, the school and the kid's parents.
https://www.vox.com/the-goods/2019/1/22/18192933/covington-catholic-maga-teen-nick-sandmann-hat
Post by: guest41 on January 24, 2019, 10:01:57 am
Sad and hate that people threatened the kids, the school and the kid's parents.
Actions have consequences.
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 24, 2019, 02:17:19 pm
Not to the point of people being threatened and even kids who weren't at this event who attend school there to be threatened, that is ridiculous and not necessary.
Actions have consequences.
Post by: Texas Pete on January 25, 2019, 12:00:47 pm
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 25, 2019, 01:06:04 pm
Roger Stone arrested at dawn!!
I read that.
What's the thoughts on a woman getting an abortion when she is due to have the baby? I think most of you know I am against abortions but that is me. I don't hold it against someone if they have one but I never could have.
Post by: Sundog512 on January 25, 2019, 01:22:05 pm
Roger Stone arrested at dawn!!
I saw that. People were complaining that a crowd was yelling “Lock Him Up...” Ironically enough, it was Roger Stone that coined that phrase for Hillary Clinton.
And now he is the one getting locked up.
Karma.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on January 25, 2019, 02:24:47 pm
I saw that. People were complaining that a crowd was yelling “Lock Him Up...” Ironically enough, it was Roger Stone that coined that phrase for Hillary Clinton.
And now he is the one getting locked up.
Karma.
I’d say there will also be karma for the kids that support DJT. They too are egging it on.
Post by: Weepy on January 25, 2019, 02:31:34 pm
I read that.
What's the thoughts on a woman getting an abortion when she is due to have the baby? I think most of you know I am against abortions but that is me. I don't hold it against someone if they have one but I never could have.
I do not believe a huge proportion of people are for abortion except to cover up infidelity, which several "pro lifers" would do in a heartbeat. I think it is more of an issue that women object to having their bodies controlled by politicians, judges etc. I believe the goal of pro lifers is to force women to stay at home like it was 100 years ago and have ten children since they want contraceptives banned while the men work. I will always believe the pro life movement is a racket to keep dividing people over stuff that generally is no issue out of the ordinary.
Post by: Weepy on January 25, 2019, 02:36:24 pm
I’d say there will also be karma for the kids that support DJT. They too are egging it on.
I blame the kids more than the others, there were over 30 of threm and about a handful of other haters and native Americans and those are kids around 15-18 years old and they are a bunch of tough guys and bullies in that group, why adults want to undersestimate their abilities and proclaim them "victims" is beyond me. That group caused the problems as well as the chaperones who were not taking control of the group. My feeling is they provoked the situation and a few witnesses came out saying the same thing.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on January 25, 2019, 08:49:15 pm
I do not believe a huge proportion of people are for abortion except to cover up infidelity, which several "pro lifers" would do in a heartbeat. I think it is more of an issue that women object to having their bodies controlled by politicians, judges etc. I believe the goal of pro lifers is to force women to stay at home like it was 100 years ago and have ten children since they want contraceptives banned while the men work. I will always believe the pro life movement is a racket to keep dividing people over stuff that generally is no issue out of the ordinary.
I agree with you. Totally agree!
Biblical men want women as incubators and subservient, or “slaves” to men.
Despicable.
It’s as if they think that women are lesser beings than men when they are equals.
We all have personal freedoms that are granted under the constitution of the United States.
To include women.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on January 25, 2019, 08:52:43 pm
I blame the kids more than the others, there were over 30 of threm and about a handful of other haters and native Americans and those are kids around 15-18 years old and they are a bunch of tough guys and bullies in that group, why adults want to undersestimate their abilities and proclaim them "victims" is beyond me. That group caused the problems as well as the chaperones who were not taking control of the group. My feeling is they provoked the situation and a few witnesses came out saying the same thing.
I too read the article and am in complete agreement with you.
Bullies are very much among that crowd of children and I don’t feel the least bit sorry for those who are instigating all the trouble in the first place.
Post by: Texas Pete on January 25, 2019, 08:55:53 pm
should not have worn those hats on a field trip!
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 25, 2019, 09:10:45 pm
I blame the kids more than the others, there were over 30 of threm and about a handful of other haters and native Americans and those are kids around 15-18 years old and they are a bunch of tough guys and bullies in that group, why adults want to undersestimate their abilities and proclaim them "victims" is beyond me. That group caused the problems as well as the chaperones who were not taking control of the group. My feeling is they provoked the situation and a few witnesses came out saying the same thing.Acrually, the whole thing got blown out of proportion and was started by a different group. According to some news sources, Mr. Phillips thought he was trying to protect the kids and there has been talks that though he is a veteran he is not a Vietnam veteran and that he is known for causing controversy. I will say for a kid to stand there and not to say anything was different. I don't think we will ever find out the truth on any of it.
I will say that when chaperoning high school kids that you give them some freedoms with a guideline on where and when to meet you because they are high school kids not elementary or middle school kids.
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 25, 2019, 09:12:17 pm
As Alyssa Milano says the red MAGA hats are the new white sheets and those kidsYep, it is one thing to go on a field trip but it is something else to wear something that one knows will cause trouble. They could have worn shirts or hats that just had the school ame on them and not the hats they had.
should not have worn those hats on a field trip!
Post by: Texas Pete on January 25, 2019, 10:51:41 pm
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Post by: Sundog512 on January 26, 2019, 11:15:31 pm
The kids were bussed there to protest abortion rights. Seems a more appropriate things for catholic kids to protest these days would be sexual abuse by the Catholic Church.
Post by: Sundog512 on January 26, 2019, 11:18:35 pm
Supposedly the family hired a PR firm. Im sure that PR firm has concocted this whole apology thing. PR firms these days mostly just do creative revisionism.
Post by: fish-sticks on January 27, 2019, 06:54:46 am
Did anyone she the other trouble makers there? Or was everyone focused on just the kids?
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 27, 2019, 06:57:17 am
I will say I think the media puts a spin on everything.No one has reported on the other trouble makers who were there.
Did anyone she the other trouble makers there? Or was everyone focused on just the kids?
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 27, 2019, 06:59:11 am
True on some of that but as someone who is married to a veteran and knows veterans many who have served during conflicts they don't make the claims of being a veteran of a war or conflict unless they were in it.
Post by: fish-sticks on January 27, 2019, 06:59:20 am
At that age they still have that bone in their head that prevents good discussion making.
I ask all of you to remember that age and what dumb things you did? Seriously .....
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 27, 2019, 07:00:00 am
The kids were bussed there to protest abortion rights. Seems a more appropriate things for catholic kids to protest these days would be sexual abuse by the Catholic Church.Agree on that.
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 27, 2019, 07:01:06 am
Kids don't always do the smart thing.Yep and I can't say that some of adults would have stood there and not said a word back to him. He showed more maturity to not speak than to speak.
At that age they still have that bone in their head that prevents good discussion making.
I ask all of you to remember that age and what dumb things you did? Seriously .....
Post by: fish-sticks on January 27, 2019, 07:02:34 am
No one has reported on the other trouble makers who were there.Yes they did .... it was a group of black men (can't remember what they called themselves)
They were calling the kids names, even the black kids they called the Uncle Tom's
I think the whole thing was sad and I do agree that the teachers or adults there should have removed the kids from the conflict.
I heard they were waiting on a bus, but still.
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 27, 2019, 07:05:39 am
Yes they did .... it was a group of black men (can't remember what they called themselves)Yes, I had heard that also but not many news reports show that part or has that changed now? I can tell that as someone who has chaperoned high school kids you give them some freedoms and arrange to meet them at a certain location. I think they should have worn something else instead of those hats if they wanted to be recognized as a group.
They were calling the kids names, even the black kids they called the Uncle Tom's
I think the whole thing was sad and I do agree that the teachers or adults there should have removed the kids from the conflict.
I heard they were waiting on a bus, but still.
Post by: fish-sticks on January 27, 2019, 07:15:38 am
Yes, I had heard that also but not many news reports show that part or has that changed now? I can tell that as someone who has chaperoned high school kids you give them some freedoms and arrange to meet them at a certain location. I think they should have worn something else instead of those hats if they wanted to be recognized as a group.Personally, I like the hats. nothing wrong with making America great again BUT, I agree with you .... any smart adult should have seen that this would poke the political bear. Kids shouldn't be used that way.
Off to work for me, I'm the mixer today. Tons different breads to make, I come home covered in flour, lol
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 27, 2019, 07:19:23 am
Personally, I like the hats. nothing wrong with making America great again BUT, I agree with you .... any smart adult should have seen that this would poke the political bear. Kids shouldn't be used that way.Yep, it says a lot about the adults using the kids in that way.
Off to work for me, I'm the mixer today. Tons different breads to make, I come home covered in flour, lol
Have a good day at work.
Post by: Weepy on January 28, 2019, 01:23:19 pm
Post by: Texas Pete on January 28, 2019, 01:40:00 pm
I am not a fan of the 2 year presidential election cycle, it should be contained in the same year as the election. I do not care about the next election yet, maybe this time a year from now. Still kinda weary from the two year 2016 cycle...It's really 24/7 365 now Weepy.
Post by: Weepy on January 28, 2019, 02:25:09 pm
It's really 24/7 365 now Weepy.
It sucks.
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 28, 2019, 02:54:27 pm
It's really 24/7 365 now Weepy.It does suck. It seems we never get a break from elections and all the negativity that goes in all offices.
Post by: Jackie on January 28, 2019, 03:33:46 pm
I am not a fan of the 2 year presidential election cycle, it should be contained in the same year as the election. I do not care about the next election yet, maybe this time a year from now. Still kinda weary from the two year 2016 cycle...
Get ready for the Starbucks Man!
Post by: Jackie on January 28, 2019, 03:55:25 pm
Post by: Jackie on January 29, 2019, 07:59:53 pm
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 29, 2019, 08:01:30 pm
Wow! No comments about the Starbuck Man?Can't be any worse than what's in office at the moment.
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 29, 2019, 08:11:42 pm
Wow! No comments about the Starbuck Man?He would be an improvement over the Harris lady who wants to do away with all private health insurance supposedly and have government control everything. The same problem that Venezuela is having with their country they want to force on U.S.
Post by: Jackie on January 29, 2019, 08:18:13 pm
He would be an improvement over the Harris lady who wants to do away with all private health insurance supposedly and have government control everything. The same problem that Venezuela is having with their country they wsnt to force on U.S.
That don't sound good, I guess anything is better than that, I will agree with you on that.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on February 16, 2019, 02:42:40 am
He would be an improvement over the Harris lady who wants to do away with all private health insurance supposedly and have government control everything. The same problem that Venezuela is having with their country they want to force on U.S.They have not rid us of any private health insurance, even Trump and the republicans that control him were trying to get rid of government healthcare. Obama didn’t get rid of them as he should have because they have been the problem all along and still continue to control even government healthcare.
So in summary, it is private healthcare that is NOT cost effective and does nothing to contribute to our lives. Or why would they try and sell you carp that will kill you at top dollar?
On another note we have the Cheeto man who’s now trying to conjure up a bullshh story for his wall and some in the media are calling him out on his bull.
https://youtu.be/iL8jUDhm83w
Post by: purplelady1040 on February 16, 2019, 07:13:00 am
They have not rid us of any private health insurance, even Trump and the republicans that control him were trying to get rid of government healthcare. Obama didn’t get rid of them as he should have because they have been the problem all along and still continue to control even government healthcare.They have needed to call him out on his bull a long time ago.
So in summary, it is private healthcare that is NOT cost effective and does nothing to contribute to our lives. Or why would they try and sell you carp that will kill you at top dollar?
On another note we have the Cheeto man who’s now trying to conjure up a bullshh story for his wall and some in the media are calling him out on his bull.
https://youtu.be/iL8jUDhm83w
On a different note, the Diocese of Covington admits that they jumped to the wrong conclusions about the kids in that situation and that they feel the kids didn't cause any of the problems. I think the biggest problem they had was the chaperones should have been around them but as I said when it comes to high school kids you give them freedoms.
Post by: Ride The Lightning on February 17, 2019, 07:32:27 am
Poly = Many
Tics = Blood sucking parasites
Post by: Icno on February 17, 2019, 09:09:58 am
I hate politics...Indeed!
Poly = Many
Tics = Blod sucking parasites
Post by: purplelady1040 on February 17, 2019, 11:42:51 am
I hate politics...We have a lot of those in office.
Poly = Many
Tics = Blod sucking parasites
Post by: Icno on February 17, 2019, 12:07:36 pm
Post by: purplelady1040 on February 17, 2019, 01:37:20 pm
I think all political positions should have term limits. Further and more importantly, there should NEVER be a Government Shutdown that didn't include the President, his/her cabinet, Senators, and all members of Congress. A "State of Emergency" should only be called when there's an actual true emergency and our country is in imminent danger. Yes, I fully understand the need to control the influx of drugs, human slavery, and disease. However, as bad as those situations are, they do not put our country in imminent danger.Total agreement
Post by: Jackie on February 17, 2019, 01:51:43 pm
I hate politics...
Poly = Many
Tics = Blod sucking parasites
tics = itch
Post by: Window Lickers Union on February 23, 2019, 06:55:36 am
I agree with you. Totally agree!
Biblical men want women as incubators and subservient, or “slaves” to men.
Despicable.
It’s as if they think that women are lesser beings than men when they are equals.
We all have personal freedoms that are granted under the constitution of the United States.
To include women.
The second part of the verse you seem to be quoting from saying (paraphrased) "women be subservient to your husband" says, "Husbands do not be bitter with your wife".
Usually that last part is left out to push the Anti-Christian/Male narrative, that men have no responsibility to the woman. I'm not saying some false "Christians" don't use the Bible like everyone else to push their corrupt agenda's too. That seems to becoming more and more of a problem these days, as it was foretold. But then again, that's why we're told to be savvy in the Lords word to discern such wolfs in sheep's clothing. Not to be fooled. But I'd be careful not to go so far as to lump all Christians into that category.
Also, it seems you are trying to compare biblical law, that is a guide to how to live spiritually obedient to Gods will on Earth with a document (Constitution) that is to establish how the US Government is to be governed - it's limit of power, responsibilities etc etc, as if it were a competing guide to the same thing. So, I understand your confusion.
Post by: Der Fuehrer on February 23, 2019, 08:07:43 am
I blame the kids more than the others, there were over 30 of threm and about a handful of other haters and native Americans and those are kids around 15-18 years old and they are a bunch of tough guys and bullies in that group, why adults want to undersestimate their abilities and proclaim them "victims" is beyond me. That group caused the problems as well as the chaperones who were not taking control of the group. My feeling is they provoked the situation and a few witnesses came out saying the same thing.
I agree. Whether or not they instigated the altercation, they were being little shits the whole time they were there. They're teenagers. It's what they do. There was another video shot while they were in Washington, one that hasn't really made the media rounds, which proves IMO that most of those kids were just there to get a rise out of whomever they could.
https://twitter.com/roflinds/status/1087486166939680768?lang=en
Also, this school has a long history of inappropriate racist behavior, as evidenced by these photos taken during school events. I am not sure why the adults involved would expect these kids to behave any differently in public if this is the way that they are allowed to behave at school functions.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covington-catholic-black-paint/
Post by: Window Lickers Union on February 23, 2019, 08:51:29 am
I agree. Whether or not they instigated the altercation, they were being little shats the whole time they were there. They're teenagers. It's what they do. There was another video shot while they were in Washington, one that hasn't really made the media rounds, which proves IMO that most of those kids were just there to get a rise out of whomever they could.
https://twitter.com/roflinds/status/1087486166939680768?lang=en
Also, this school has a long history of inappropriate racist behavior, as evidenced by these photos taken during school events. I am not sure why the adults involved would expect these kids to behave any differently in public if this is the way that they are allowed to behave at school functions.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/covington-catholic-black-paint/
First video- you can't definitively recognize anyone in it. So your statement it "proves" anything is laughable at best.
Second, the Snopes article states -
"Based on comments in the BluegrassPreps message board, the intent of the black body paint was not racial but was instead a school tradition related to “black out” games, during which fans wore black to support the team. That being said, at least one person in the thread posited a connection to racist minstrel shows from the 19th century that used blackface on white actors to depict African Americans unfavorably. “That guy on the right looks like he might have been researching minstrelsy before the game,” one post read."
.....So, one person "supposedly" making a "racist" gesture, posting a blackface minstrel show, is grounds to blanket the whole school as racist, because of a school tradition that has nothing to do with "racist blackface" and dismissively ignore anyone else's incidents as racist too because they came from said school.
Real legit logic, Der.
Post by: purplelady1040 on February 23, 2019, 03:33:26 pm
First video- you can't definitively recognize anyone in it. So your statement it "proves" anything is laughable at best.The school also has its share of different minorities in it and not just an all white school.
Second, the Snopes article states -
"Based on comments in the BluegrassPreps message board, the intent of the black body paint was not racial but was instead a school tradition related to “black out” games, during which fans wore black to support the team. That being said, at least one person in the thread posited a connection to racist minstrel shows from the 19th century that used blackface on white actors to depict African Americans unfavorably. “That guy on the right looks like he might have been researching minstrelsy before the game,” one post read."
.....So, one person "supposedly" making a "racist" gesture, posting a blackface minstrel show, is grounds to blanket the whole school as racist, because of a school tradition that has nothing to do with "racist blackface" and dismissively ignore anyone else's incidents as racist too because they came from said school.
Real legit logic, Der.
Post by: Texas Pete on February 23, 2019, 04:31:35 pm
The school also has its share of different minorities in it and not just an all white school.PL I hope you don't mind I moved this here but this is goning to be the political and other events board.
Post by: purplelady1040 on February 23, 2019, 04:58:57 pm
PL I hope you don't mind I moved this here but this is goning to be the political and other events board.I don't mind at all!! It is all good!!
Post by: Icno on February 23, 2019, 10:59:00 pm
The school also has its share of different minorities in it and not just an all white school.They have an enrollment of 603 students. They are 95.4% White, 2.2% Hispanic, 2% Multiracial, 0.2% African American, 0.2% Asian, 0.2% Pacific Islander and 0% Native American. The Math speaks for itself.
Post by: Window Lickers Union on February 24, 2019, 12:04:06 am
They have an enrollment of 603 students. They are 95.4% White, 2.2% Hispanic, 2% Multiracial, 0.2% African American, 0.2% Asian, 0.2% Pacific Islander and 0% Native American. The Math speaks for itself.
A school located in a state that is 87% white, 3% Hispanic, 1% Multiracial, 7% African American, >1% Asian, >1% Pacific Islander and >1% Native American.
Park Hills, the city Covington Catholic Highschool is located in has @ the same demographic makeup.
By your logic, the State of Kentucky is now considered racist cause it has more white people. But you're correct, the "math", when taken in context as the racial makeup of the state and city as a whole, does speak for itself. As we can see they closely match the demographic of the school. Hard to fill every school in the US with "equal" amounts of blacks/whites when they only make up 15% of the US population, but that don't make something 'racist'.
Also, I don't think most blacks send their kids to a private Catholic School to begin with, so there is that 'cultural' metric to consider. Can we now label blacks 'religious intolerant', since we're making huge leaps in logic in our anti-white propaganda?
It would only be "racial equality" doing so, right?
Post by: Icno on February 24, 2019, 01:44:28 am
A school located in a state that is 87% white, 3% Hispanic, 1% Multiracial, 7% African American, >1% Asian, >1% Pacific Islander and >1% Native American.First of all, let's understand one thing. I never said Covington Catholic was or is racist.
Park Hills, the city Covington Catholic Highschool is located in has @ the same demographic makeup.
By your logic, the State of Kentucky is now considered racist cause it has more white people. But you're correct, the "math", when taken in context as the racial makeup of the state and city as a whole, does speak for itself. As we can see they closely match the demographic of the school. Hard to fill every school in the US with "equal" amounts of blacks/whites when they only make up 15% of the US population, but that don't make something 'racist'.
Also, I don't think most blacks send their kids to a private Catholic School to begin with, so there is that 'cultural' metric to consider. Can we now label blacks 'religious intolerant', since we're making huge leaps in logic in our anti-white propaganda?
It would only be "racial equality" doing so, right?
Now, based on your facts let's look at the reality. If CCHS was compatable to Kentucky as a whole in racial equality wouldn't the overall figures also be comparable? There's a huge difference between 95.4% and 87% and there's an even larger difference between 7% and 0.2%. If the equality ratio were more in line with the overall Kentucky ratio, rather than 1 African American student, there would be 42.
However, let's look at a couple of other notable private male Catholic schools in Kentucky for a comparison. St. Xavier has an overall student population of 1346. The breakdown is as follows:
White - 90.6%
Hispanic - 2.4%
Multiracial - 2.3%
African American - 1.7%
Asian - 1.5%
Native American - 1.1%
Pacific Islander - 0.4%
^^^ That's probably more in line with the population figures for Kentucky.
For comparison sake, let's look at another all male private Catholic school in Kentucky. The breakdown for Trinity High School is as follows:
Student Diversity
White - 86.5%
African American - 6.5%
Hispanic - 2.6%
Multiracial - 2.1%
Asian - 2%
Native American - 0.3%
Pacific Islander - 0.1%
Unknown - 0%
^^^ That's right in line with Kentucky statistics.
Just for comparison sake, I'll also note the tuition figures for all 3 schools are drastically different. While both St.X and Trinity have a tuition of $13,000+, CCHS only has a tuition of $8,060.
Now, let's be realistic. Blackout games and whiteout games have been around a long time. People dress in the corresponding colors, they wear wigs, and in some situations, they also use paint. It's not in any way intended to be racial oriented. It's merely a motivational tool to boost team spirit and designed to be fun, not critical of any particular race. However, painting one's face black has always been considered a racial or derogatory act towards people of color. You can flip that coin however you want but the fact remains, if any action can be interpretated as offensive it should not be done. That's true for CCHS and every school in the United States. If schools are going to have blackout games, they need to restrict the code so that face painting in that manner is excluded.
Personally, I don't know if CCHS is racist or not and to be perfectly honest, I really don't care.
Further, I don't care how you or anyone else looks at it, I feel those kids were acting disrespectful at that protest. That's my opinion. You'll not change it and I doubt anything I say will change your opinion. I happen to believe a difference of opinion gives us the opportunity to be individuals. Have a nice read. :)
Post by: Window Lickers Union on February 24, 2019, 04:13:01 am
First of all, let's understand one thing. I never said Covington Catholic was or is racist.
Now, based on your facts let's look at the reality. If CCHS was compatable to Kentucky as a whole in racial equality wouldn't the overall figures also be comparable? There's a huge difference between 95.4% and 87% and there's an even larger difference between 7% and 0.2%. If the equality ratio were more in line with the overall Kentucky ratio, rather than 1 African American student, there would be 42.
However, let's look at a couple of other notable private male Catholic schools in Kentucky for a comparison. St. Xavier has an overall student population of 1346. The breakdown is as follows:
White - 90.6%
Hispanic - 2.4%
Multiracial - 2.3%
African American - 1.7%
Asian - 1.5%
Native American - 1.1%
Pacific Islander - 0.4%
^^^ That's probably more in line with the population figures for Kentucky.
For comparison sake, let's look at another all male private Catholic school in Kentucky. The breakdown for Trinity High School is as follows:
Student Diversity
White - 86.5%
African American - 6.5%
Hispanic - 2.6%
Multiracial - 2.1%
Asian - 2%
Native American - 0.3%
Pacific Islander - 0.1%
Unknown - 0%
^^^ That's right in line with Kentucky statistics.
Just for comparison sake, I'll also note the tuition figures for all 3 schools are drastically different. While both St.X and Trinity have a tuition of $13,000+, CCHS only has a tuition of $8,060.
Now, let's be realistic. Blackout games and whiteout games have been around a long time. People dress in the corresponding colors, they wear wigs, and in some situations, they also use paint. It's not in any way intended to be racial oriented. It's merely a motivational tool to boost team spirit and designed to be fun, not critical of any particular race. However, painting one's face black has always been considered a racial or derogatory act towards people of color. You can flip that coin however you want but the fact remains, if any action can be interpretated as offensive it should not be done. That's true for CCHS and every school in the United States. If schools are going to have blackout games, they need to restrict the code so that face painting in that manner is excluded.
Personally, I don't know if CCHS is racist or not and to be perfectly honest, I really don't care.
Further, I don't care how you or anyone else looks at it, I feel those kids were acting disrespectful at that protest. That's my opinion. You'll not change it and I doubt anything I say will change your opinion. I happen to believe a difference of opinion gives us the opportunity to be individuals. Have a nice read. :)
I don't understand your point in mentioning other schools racial demographics, unless it's to prove my point that a place with less blacks will have less racial diversity within it's schools. Since both those schools you mentioned are in Louisville, Ky, a city that has a 32% black population. More blacks within an area would naturally equate to the probability that more blacks would be enrolled in a private Catholic school.
If we drop the percentages and look at the raw numbers (estimated 2016) Park Hills, Ky Has 238 blacks, compared with Louisville's 140,000. Finding more blacks who are/would send their kids to a private Catholic School in Louisville raises by order of magnitude given the population. And explains why there is a little more variance, but still in line, with the states racial demographic in Park Hills.
"However, painting one's face black has always been considered a racial or derogatory act towards people of color." --ICNO
You mean only when white people do it, right? That seems to be the ongoing MO of all the anti-white rhetoric. Saying whites shouldn't put black on their face for school colors and calling them racists- sorry, "offensive" if they do, amounts to nothing more than a grandstanding witch-hunt to fuel the radical left wing political base into a frenzy. We already see how dangerous this is with the kids being threatened physically... over wearing school colors. Talk about unhinged.
"if any action can be interpretated as offensive it should not be done." --ICNO
So, if a group of people come up to you and tells you that your breathing is "offending" them, are you going to stop, or does common sense and logic kick in that you are doing nothing wrong and continue to breathe? Just the same, those kids are doing nothing wrong.
Now that I pointed out the absurdity in your 'logic' with a little bit of humor, let's go one step further and see how much you really believe in what you say, or is it all just a bunch of virtue signaling. Can you hold yourself to the same standard as you want others to be held? I find you posting on this forum to be offensive, can you please stop? I'm going to make a guess and say you won't, and this just highlights the hypocrisy of it all. The old "Do as I say, not as I do" Jedi mind trick.
"Personally, I don't know if CCHS is racist or not and to be perfectly honest, I really don't care." --ICNO
Going to have to call this into question. Why else would you make a comment on CCHS subject, and say they shouldn't do it cause it's view as "racist", sorry, "offfensive" if you really didn't care? It's obvious you have some concern and cared enough to voice your opinion. No need to be shy - I don't bite.
To your last few comments. I'm not here to change anyone's opinions.That's on them, out of ignorance or knowledge they can come to their own conclusions. It's all in good fun and I've enjoyed everyone's opinions, posts, views, subject matter and cognitive dissonance! :)
Thank you or your response, ICNO.
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Post by: purplelady1040 on February 24, 2019, 06:32:21 am
Oh and as far as a lot of minorities don't send their kids to private schools in Kentucky, I think it depends on the area. Owensboro has 3% of the school population is minority. Louisville has about 8% and Lexington has about 8% also. Now, it is has always been public high schools have a considerable higher rate of minorities.
Post by: Der Fuehrer on February 24, 2019, 06:59:14 am
First video- you can't definitively recognize anyone in it. So your statement it "proves" anything is laughable at best.
Second, the Snopes article states -
"Based on comments in the BluegrassPreps message board, the intent of the black body paint was not racial but was instead a school tradition related to “black out” games, during which fans wore black to support the team. That being said, at least one person in the thread posited a connection to racist minstrel shows from the 19th century that used blackface on white actors to depict African Americans unfavorably. “That guy on the right looks like he might have been researching minstrelsy before the game,” one post read."
.....So, one person "supposedly" making a "racist" gesture, posting a blackface minstrel show, is grounds to blanket the whole school as racist, because of a school tradition that has nothing to do with "racist blackface" and dismissively ignore anyone else's incidents as racist too because they came from said school.
Real legit logic, Der.
One is too many. Whether it was one or more, the school allowed that kid to attend the event, stand on the sidelines in traditional blackface, and scream threateningly at black players. Inappropriate. Adults should know better
P.S. Sorry for the late reply. Saturdays are busy for me.
Post by: Window Lickers Union on February 24, 2019, 07:50:37 am
If we are going to call out racism due to a political event than maybe we should quit having Revolutionary and Civil War reenactments. I mean everyone gets so easily offended over something so stupid as painting a black face which has been around forever. Whether the kids acted disrespectful at a political event or not, whether there school is all white or not, the fact is racism exists because of the narrow mindedness of people. I don't know whether the kids acted disrespectful or not but I do believe the blame should go on all sides. It takes 2 to start an argument so there is plenty of blame to go along.
Oh and as far as a lot of minorities don't send their kids to private schools in Kentucky, I think it depends on the area. Owensboro has 3% of the school population is minority. Louisville has about 8% and Lexington has about 8% also. Now, it is has always been public high schools have a considerable higher rate of minorities.
I'm still trying to figure out why we need to stop Revolutionary and Civil War reenactments due to dangerous anti-white rhetoric (racism) at a politic event?
Unless you are implying that white's created the 'anti-white' racism with their 'white' racism, because in no way non-whites are racists until they experience 'white' racism. So, it's all 'whitey's' fault again? Can you please elaborate more?
Also, I'd like to ask why do you think people are "narrow-minded" if they are racists? Specifically, what makes them wrong being "narrow-minded". Do you believe there is no evolutionary (biological), or even Biblical grounds (if you want to go this way) of why the races will never coexist in one big happy utopia?
I'm asking because "narrow mindedness" is a really vague term to use, that really means nothing in terms of right or wrong. I mean, I can make the statement that you are 'narrow minded' because you won't let a child molester babysit your kids. So, as we can see with the example, "narrow mindedness" doesn't necessarily mean somebody is wrong for being the way they are with their so called "narrow mindedness".
Post by: purplelady1040 on February 24, 2019, 07:56:45 am
I'm still trying to figure out why we need to stop Revolutionary and Civil War reenactments due to dangerous anti-white rhetoric (racism) at a politic event?I personally see nothing wrong with the reenactments but seeing as how many feel that having a black face at an event is being racist that is why I mentioned it. People who tend to be racists tend to narrow minded if they think that their race is the only race in the world. I tend to look at it that God made the human race and didn't say that the wihite, black, red, pink or purple is better than any other race. And no, I wouldn't let some child pervert babysit my kids and if that makes me narrow minded than so be it. I prefer to call it caring for my kids.
Unless you are implying that white's created the 'anti-white' racism with their 'white' racism, because in no way non-whites are racists until they experience 'white' racism. So, it's all 'whitey's' fault again? Can you please elaborate more?
Also, I'd like to ask why do you think people are "narrow-minded" if they are racists? Specifically, what makes them wrong being "narrow-minded". Do you believe there is no evolutionary (biological), or even Biblical grounds (if you want to go this way) of why the races will never coexist in one big happy utopia?
I'm asking because "narrow mindedness" is a really vague term to use, that really means nothing in terms of right or wrong. I mean, I can make the statement that you are 'narrow minded' because you won't let a child molester babysit your kids. So, as we can see with the example, "narrow mindedness" doesn't necessarily mean somebody is wrong for being the way they are with their so called "narrow mindedness".
Post by: Window Lickers Union on February 24, 2019, 08:12:19 am
One is too many. Whether it was one or more, the school allowed that kid to attend the event, stand on the sidelines in traditional blackface, and scream threateningly at black players. Inappropriate. Adults should know better
P.S. Sorry for the late reply. Saturdays are busy for me.
No worries. I'm sure you are busy virtue signaling your stance on identify politics on the Native American forums that they are racist for wearing "traditional blackface" when they dress up to cheer their culture (team). That's what I like about you, stamping out all racism everywhere, not just 'whitey's'! /s
So adorable.
Post by: joanna50 on February 24, 2019, 09:28:16 am
I'm still trying to figure out why we need to stop Revolutionary and Civil War reenactments due to dangerous anti-white rhetoric (racism) at a politic event?According to the dictionary Narrow Mindedness means "Not willing to listen or tolerate other peoples view, prejudiced" I think by that very definition one can construe that as being wrong
Unless you are implying that white's created the 'anti-white' racism with their 'white' racism, because in no way non-whites are racists until they experience 'white' racism. So, it's all 'whitey's' fault again? Can you please elaborate more?
Also, I'd like to ask why do you think people are "narrow-minded" if they are racists? Specifically, what makes them wrong being "narrow-minded". Do you believe there is no evolutionary (biological), or even Biblical grounds (if you want to go this way) of why the races will never coexist in one big happy utopia?
I'm asking because "narrow mindedness" is a really vague term to use, that really means nothing in terms of right or wrong. I mean, I can make the statement that you are 'narrow minded' because you won't let a child molester babysit your kids. So, as we can see with the example, "narrow mindedness" doesn't necessarily mean somebody is wrong for being the way they are with their so called "narrow mindedness".
Post by: purplelady1040 on February 24, 2019, 09:38:25 am
According to the dictionary Narrow Mindedness means "Not willing to listen or tolerate other peoples view, prejudiced" I think by that very definition one can construe that as being wrongExactly and I have met many people.other races who are prejudiced. It isn't just one race that is that way.
Post by: Window Lickers Union on February 24, 2019, 10:28:36 am
According to the dictionary Narrow Mindedness means "Not willing to listen or tolerate other peoples view, prejudiced" I think by that very definition one can construe that as being wrong
Thank you, Mrs. Webster.
Narrow mindedness "Not willing to listen or tolerate other people view, prejudiced"
Prejudice(d) -"Prejudice is prejudgment, or forming an opinion before becoming aware of the relevant facts of a case. The word is often used to refer to preconceived, usually unfavorable, judgments toward people or a person because of gender, political opinion, social class, age, disability, religion, sexuality, race/ethnicity, language, nationality, or other personal characteristics."
This is probably why I asked her if she believed there wasn't any evolutionary or Biblical bases (facts) for racism. And according to her answer of which one she subscribes to, if any, would determine my reply to her.
Yes, my last example was somewhat loose on the direct definition, but most people don't use it verbatim in it's meaning. With you around to keep me on my toe's, I'll make sure I'm more careful in the future.
But her answer tells me she is not stupid, and is not wrong in her answer. No more than you can say people who subscribe to evolutionary racism are wrong (It's basis is taught in school , you know). Biblically speaking, since that was her answer, I'm still deciding if I want to engage her now or wait till I've slept and be mentally prepared. Hopefully this reply isn't too scattered brained. I've been up all night. (Sorry Purplelady1040, I don't mean to make you wait for a reply)
But, Joanna, good try.
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Post by: purplelady1040 on February 24, 2019, 10:37:26 am
Thank you, Mrs. Webster.I would say that most people do have a degree of prejudicism or racism in them. Do I? Possibly but considering I have 2 children adopted from foreign countries, family members who are mixed, neighbors who are of different races, religious beliefs and even family members and friends who are of different sexual orientations than I would say I probably have more tolerance towards those. I try to treat all people how I want to be treated with respect regardless what they believe, don't believe or where they are in life. Like my next door neighbor who is an awesome elderly black lady, God said to love us all not just this person or that person but that is me.
Narrow mindedness "Not willing to listen or tolerate other people view, prejudiced"
Prejudice(d) -"Prejudice is prejudgment, or forming an opinion before becoming aware of the relevant facts of a case. The word is often used to refer to preconceived, usually unfavorable, judgments toward people or a person because of gender, political opinion, social class, age, disability, religion, sexuality, race/ethnicity, language, nationality, or other personal characteristics."
This is probably why I asked her if she believed there wasn't any evolutionary or Biblical bases (facts) for racism. And according to her answer of which one she subscribes to, if any, would determine my reply to her.
Yes, my last example was somewhat loose on the direct definition, but most people don't use it verbatim in it's meaning. With you around to keep me on my toe's, I'll make sure I'm more careful in the future.
But her answer tells me she is not stupid, and is not wrong in her answer. No more than you can say people who subscribe to evolutionary racism are wrong (It's basis is taught in school , you know). Biblically speaking, since that was her answer, I'm still deciding if I want to engage her now or wait till I've slept and be mentally prepared. Hopefully this reply isn't too scattered brained. I've been up all night. (Sorry Purplelady1040, I don't mean to make you wait for a reply)
But, Joanna, good try.
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Post by: joanna50 on February 24, 2019, 11:32:21 am
Exactly and I have met many people.other races who are prejudiced. It isn't just one race that is that way.Exactly, I have a hard time understanding the purpose of racism, or of being intolerant of other peoples views/opinions, however I do find myself to be short of patience with those who feel the need to downgrade women, Gays, Native Americans, people who abuse kids, animals, and the elderly I simply cant fathom why they exist
Post by: joanna50 on February 24, 2019, 11:38:53 am
Thank you, Mrs. Webster.Why would it have an evolutionary or biblical basis, racism is taught, I hardly think it is a evolutionary process, are animals racist?, furthermore I hadn't noticed Jesus teaching racism but with any organized religion you run into problems so that might be iffy at best. Nice try dear
Narrow mindedness "Not willing to listen or tolerate other people view, prejudiced"
Prejudice(d) -"Prejudice is prejudgment, or forming an opinion before becoming aware of the relevant facts of a case. The word is often used to refer to preconceived, usually unfavorable, judgments toward people or a person because of gender, political opinion, social class, age, disability, religion, sexuality, race/ethnicity, language, nationality, or other personal characteristics."
This is probably why I asked her if she believed there wasn't any evolutionary or Biblical bases (facts) for racism. And according to her answer of which one she subscribes to, if any, would determine my reply to her.
Yes, my last example was somewhat loose on the direct definition, but most people don't use it verbatim in it's meaning. With you around to keep me on my toe's, I'll make sure I'm more careful in the future.
But her answer tells me she is not stupid, and is not wrong in her answer. No more than you can say people who subscribe to evolutionary racism are wrong (It's basis is taught in school , you know). Biblically speaking, since that was her answer, I'm still deciding if I want to engage her now or wait till I've slept and be mentally prepared. Hopefully this reply isn't too scattered brained. I've been up all night. (Sorry Purplelady1040, I don't mean to make you wait for a reply)
But, Joanna, good try.
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Post by: purplelady1040 on February 24, 2019, 03:52:45 pm
Exactly, I have a hard time understanding the purpose of racism, or of being intolerant of other peoples views/opinions, however I do find myself to be short of patience with those who feel the need to downgrade women, Gays, Native Americans, people who abuse kids, animals, and the elderly I simply cant fathom why they existI can't either and it seems these days people have more compassion for someone who abuses animals than they do someone who abuses a child. I don't like people who abuse anyone.
Post by: joanna50 on February 25, 2019, 01:08:54 am
I can't either and it seems these days people have more compassion for someone who abuses animals than they do someone who abuses a child. I don't like people who abuse anyone.I think anyone who is abusive in any form lacks self control and self esteem, instead of being ok with themselves with all the human fallacies and imperfections they take their fears and insecurities out on others, very cowardly and exhibits a extreme amount of poor moral fiber, as WLU would say off to the FEMA camp with them
Post by: Window Lickers Union on February 25, 2019, 03:01:30 am
Exactly, I have a hard time understanding the purpose of racism, or of being intolerant of other peoples views/opinions, however I do find myself to be short of patience with those who feel the need to downgrade women, Gays, Native Americans, people who abuse kids, animals, and the elderly I simply cant fathom why they exist
But you are a known white, male, christian, conservative basher. I remember you saying the white man is getting what he deserves because he gave smallpox to the Native Americans 200 years ago. Your hypocrisy is astounding sometimes. It really is. Thank God we live in a day and age where the son no longer pays for the fathers sin. Just like I never owned a slave, but people out there should think I need to pay "reparations" to blacks. Again, nobody else needs to pay for what their ancestors did, only whitey.
By the way, I kinda miss 'Whitey Blackman'. (random, I know)
Why would it have an evolutionary or biblical basis, racism is taught, I hardly think it is a evolutionary process, are animals racist?, furthermore I hadn't noticed Jesus teaching racism but with any organized religion you run into problems so that might be iffy at best. Nice try dear
Why either or? Can you think of any other competing theories? We are either divinely made to serve a purpose or just a bunch of random meatbags brought out of the nothingness. I think that covers just about everything, don't you?
Have you asked an animal if they are racists? What did it say? ... I do understand some animals are highly tribal/territorial and kill other like animals or refuse to breed outside their packs. So one can draw conclusions that some of them can exhibit 'racist' like behaviors/Instincts. I think it would be somewhat hard to draw an exact human comparison if that's what you're looking for. Early man was no difference, bound together in tight-knit like communities to survive - Tribalism. Not much has changed in the last 10,000+ years. Blacks still self segregate, whites, Jews, gays etc. etc. I believe this is why FORCED integration will always fail and causes more problems than it solves. It needs to happen organically, if at all.
Of course you will always have the outliers, but I'd take a well educated guess that most of it happens more do to social pressures. Women are not tribal (a good read is how French women who were sexual partners with the Germans, and then how they were treated after WWII ended) they will always migrate to what they perceive, even wrongly, to a more dominant mating partner. nor do they want to be seen as social pariahs. The black culture has been made to look "cool" and "strong" in today's society. How many commercials do we see where the strapping young, built black guy is paired with a hot white woman and a wimpy acing white male? How about NEWS on TV- black male, white woman (usually blonde with ghetto booty). Have you seen the new Gillette commercial where all the black guys are saving the young white women from "toxic" white males? Stop and pay attention sometime to watch what your actually being shown.
This is social engineering at it's best (worst), and dangerous. IMHO.
I can't either and it seems these days people have more compassion for someone who abuses animals than they do someone who abuses a child. I don't like people who abuse anyone.
Agreed. Those dumb animal commercials with sad music make me sick.
Instead of quoting you on your other posts, I'll just go ahead an answer here. And this is really anti-climatic. I have to save all my climatic posts for Joanna, she's been known to take a 4 hour long bus ride to Ohio and dump women off bridges onto the creek bank out of jealousy. (inside joke)
Biblically speaking, there is no basis for racism. Every human is a descendant from Adam and Eve. Although the wording in Genesis, probably due to the English translation, reads like Satan and Eve had offspring. Then you have the curse of Cain, some people think this "mark" is the dark skin color for blacks. Then there is the Curse of Ham (Canaan) is where blacks came from.
Now it isn't all towards blacks either. I've known blacks to try and use verses that describe Jesus to claim he was Negro , or that Blacks are the 'real' Jews and that all whites are Edomites bound straight for hell... so, there's that.
Truthfully, the description of Jesus sounds more like something you'd see on a Acid trip while listening to the Beatles Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album. IMHO.
Post by: joanna50 on February 25, 2019, 03:35:11 am
But you are a known white, male, christian, conservative basher. I remember you saying the white man is getting what he deserves because he gave smallpox to the Native Americans 200 years ago. Your hypocrisy is astounding sometimes. It really is. Thank God we live in a day and age where the son no longer pays for the fathers sin. Just like I never owned a slave, but people out there should think I need to pay "reparations" to blacks. Again, nobody else needs to pay for what their ancestors did, only whitey.I do not hate white, Christian males, males, or whites thought I would just cover all the bases in order to avoid being accused of being a hairy legged feminist. What I have difficulty with is the self entitlement that all seem to have. As far as back in the day when we as humans first started I don't recall reading about any racism or seeing it anywhere on the discovery channel, racism is born out of fear and lack of self esteem, it is a society issue as we are taught it by our parents/care giver. I have never traveled to Ohio to dump women off of bridges, did you start that?, that was 1 thing that was said that really annoyed me. If I were to be a killer it would be of white, Christian males, those I would feed to lions. How do you know we descended from Adam and Eve, did they commit incest cause according to the bible there were only the 2 boys, where did everybody else come from? The bible is not based on any fact and that is why Christians are so annoying they base their morals on a fairytale
By the way, I kinda miss 'Whitey Blackman'. (random, I know)
Why either or? Can you think of any other competing theories? We are either divinely made to serve a purpose or just a bunch of random meatbags brought out of the nothingness. I think that covers just about everything, don't you?
Have you asked an animal if they are racists? What did it say? ... I do understand some animals are highly tribal/territorial and kill other like animals or refuse to breed outside their packs. So one can draw conclusions that some of them can exhibit 'racist' like behaviors/Instincts. I think it would be somewhat hard to draw an exact human comparison if that's what you're looking for. Early man was no difference, bound together in tight-knit like communities to survive - Tribalism. Not much has changed in the last 10,000+ years. Blacks still self segregate, whites, Jews, gays etc. etc. I believe this is why FORCED integration will always fail and causes more problems than it solves. It needs to happen organically, if at all.
Of course you will always have the outliers, but I'd take a well educated guess that most of it happens more do to social pressures. Women are not tribal (a good read is how French women who were sexual partners with the Germans, and then how they were treated after WWII ended) they will always migrate to what they perceive, even wrongly, to a more dominant mating partner. nor do they want to be seen as social pariahs. The black culture has been made to look "cool" and "strong" in today's society. How many commercials do we see where the strapping young, built black guy is paired with a hot white woman and a wimpy acing white male? How about NEWS on TV- black male, white woman (usually blonde with ghetto booty). Have you seen the new Gillette commercial where all the black guys are saving the young white women from "toxic" white males? Stop and pay attention sometime to watch what your actually being shown.
This is social engineering at it's best (worst), and dangerous. IMHO.
Agreed. Those dumb animal commercials with sad music make me sick.
Instead of quoting you on your other posts, I'll just go ahead an answer here. And this is really anti-climatic. I have to save all my climatic posts for Joanna, she's been known to take a 4 hour long bus ride to Ohio and dump women off bridges onto the creek bank out of jealousy. (inside joke)
Biblically speaking, there is no basis for racism. Every human is a descendant from Adam and Eve. Although the wording in Genesis, probably due to the English translation, reads like Satan and Eve had offspring. Then you have the curse of Cain, some people think this "mark" is the dark skin color for blacks. Then there is the Curse of Ham (Canaan) is where blacks came from.
Now it isn't all towards blacks either. I've known blacks to try and use verses that describe Jesus to claim he was Negro , or that Blacks are the 'real' Jews and that all whites are Edomites bound straight for hell... so, there's that.
Truthfully, the description of Jesus sounds more like something you'd see on a Acid trip while listening to the Beatles Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band album. IMHO.
Post by: joanna50 on February 25, 2019, 03:45:57 am
Post by: Window Lickers Union on February 25, 2019, 04:36:08 am
I think anyone who is abusive in any form lacks self control and self esteem, instead of being ok with themselves with all the human fallacies and imperfections they take their fears and insecurities out on others, very cowardly and exhibits a extreme amount of poor moral fiber, as WLU would say off to the FEMA camp with them
You have people like Joanna who believe in killing an unborn child is a 'right', but rages against somebody who abuses an animal/child. You can't make this level of insanity up. I tried to tell her, draw pictures and sent a video link on how children are made, and that if "pro-choice" people don't want kids they should stop doing the very ONE thing causing it. I don't think it has sunk in yet....
But as we see, it isn't about really having a 'choice' cause 'my body', it's really about not wanting to pay the consequences for our actions.
I do not hate white, Christian males, males, or whites thought I would just cover all the bases in order to avoid being accused of being a hairy legged feminist. What I have difficulty with is the self entitlement that all seem to have. As far as back in the day when we as humans first started I don't recall reading about any racism or seeing it anywhere on the discovery channel, racism is born out of fear and lack of self esteem, it is a society issue as we are taught it by our parents/care giver. I have never traveled to Ohio to dump women off of bridges, did you start that?, that was 1 thing that was said that really annoyed me. If I were to be a killer it would be of white, Christian males, those I would feed to lions. How do you know we descended from Adam and Eve, did they commit incest cause according to the bible there were only the 2 boys, where did everybody else come from? The bible is not based on any fact and that is why Christians are so annoying they base their morals on a fairytale
Funny.
You didn't seem to have a problem with those self entitled Gays when they sued and tried to force the christian baker to bake them a wedding cake. Weird. Luckily the Supreme Court understands that somebody else's right to be gay stops when it infringes on someone else's right to practice their religion.. Just like I'm more than sure you want somebody else's religion to stop when it infringes on their right to be gay. This is how our republic is suppose to work. Can you imagine the tears that you would shed if that christian baker sued to make that gay (man) marry a woman!!!!!
"I do not hate white, Christian males, males, or whites " - J50
"If I were to be a killer it would be of white, Christian males, those I would feed to lions" -J50
One of these thing isn't quite like the other. Hmmm. And No I didn't start that "Joanna's the killer', I just have a good enough memory to remember it being said.
You didn't see racism on the discovery channel? Are you being serious right now? First off, like the History Channel, The Discovery Channel has pretty much lost all it's credibility of being an actual educational program. Second, the Discovery Channel don't show a lot of things, so saying it doesn't exist just because some TV show doesn't acknowledge it is absolutely preposterous.
To answer your question on Adam and Eve. I said "Biblically speaking", so in no way did I make that claim. I'm stating from the biblical view point that it says Adam and Eve. Eve was the mother of all man. I'd recall the verses, but since you think it's just "fairytales", I'd just be wasting my time.
The Bible don't tell us a lot of things in great detail, (Like Discovery Channel) but there is no time frame given between Cain, Abel, Seth and their wives. Since Cain went and dwelt within the city of Nod with his wife after killing Abel, one can assume a great amount of time had passed. Since the Bible is told in a (evil) Patriarchal fashion, I'm not really surprised "faceless" women are not mentioned.
To the incest question. You're not the first one to ask this. I've asked this along with a great many others. I'd have to look it up, but I don't think we should view history through a modern lens. I do believe it was in Leviticus that God condemned sexual relations of close relatives. And such relations was then considered incest. Sorry I can't answer this one more thoroughly. Maybe somebody on here is a Biblical Scholar and chime in.
Also, try reading the Bible once in your lifetime instead of misquoting it and failing to understand what it says. Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.
EDIT: Added another reply.
Animals are territorial because they are animals incapable of rational thought and logic, they don't breed outside their pack because it is against their nature, only with humans do you find a zebra breeding with a tiger, we also have to meddle in things. I wouldn't say nor is it logical to say they exhibit racial tendencies, racism is a human malady based out of fear and lack of self esteem, I also miss WhiteyBlackman hope he can find his way here.
If you think Animals are incapable of rational and logical thought, you need to get outside more often.
Post by: joanna50 on February 25, 2019, 05:41:31 am
You have people like Joanna who believe in killing an unborn child is a 'right', but rages against somebody who abuses an animal/child. You can't make this level of insanity up. I tried to tell her, draw pictures and sent a video link on how children are made, and that if "pro-choice" people don't want kids they should stop doing the very ONE thing causing it. I don't think it has sunk in yet....
But as we see, it isn't about really having a 'choice' cause 'my body', it's really about not wanting to pay the consequences for our actions.
If your freedom of choice isn't under threat do you really think your views have any merit?, its not like I advocate killing of unborn kids but shit happens as they say and who am I to pass judgment on someone who makes a choice I don't necessarily think is right, consequences of a persons actions generally fall upon the person committing those actions, not so funny when your freedom of choice is on the line
Funny.
You didn't seem to have a problem with those self entitled Gays when they sued and tried to force the christian baker to bake them a wedding cake. Weird. Luckily the Supreme Court understands that somebody else's right to be gay stops when it infringes on someone else's right to practice their religion.. Just like I'm more than sure you want somebody else's religion to stop when it infringes on their right to be gay. This is how our republic is suppose to work. Can you imagine the tears that you would shed if that christian baker sued to make that gay (man) marry a woman!!!!!
"I do not hate white, Christian males, males, or whites " - J50
"If I were to be a killer it would be of white, Christian males, those I would feed to lions" -J50
One of these thing isn't quite like the other. Hmmm. And No I didn't start that "Joanna's the killer', I just have a good enough memory to remember it being said.
You didn't see racism on the discovery channel? Are you being serious right now? First off, like the History Channel, The Discovery Channel has pretty much lost all it's credibility of being an actual educational program. Second, the Discovery Channel don't show a lot of things, so saying it doesn't exist just because some TV show doesn't acknowledge it is absolutely preposterous.
To answer your question on Adam and Eve. I said "Biblically speaking", so in no way did I make that claim. I'm stating from the biblical view point that it says Adam and Eve. Eve was the mother of all man. I'd recall the verses, but since you think it's just "fairytales", I'd just be wasting my time.
The Bible don't tell us a lot of things in great detail, (Like Discovery Channel) but there is no time frame given between Cain, Abel, Seth and their wives. Since Cain went and dwelt within the city of Nod with his wife after killing Abel, one can assume a great amount of time had passed. Since the Bible is told in a (evil) Patriarchal fashion, I'm not really surprised "faceless" women are not mentioned.
To the incest question. You're not the first one to ask this. I've asked this along with a great many others. I'd have to look it up, but I don't think we should view history through a modern lens. I do believe it was in Leviticus that God condemned sexual relations of close relatives. And such relations was then considered incest. Sorry I can't answer this one more thoroughly. Maybe somebody on here is a Biblical Scholar and chime in.
Also, try reading the Bible once in your lifetime instead of misquoting it and failing to understand what it says. Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.
EDIT: Added another reply.
If you think Animals are incapable of rational and logical thought, you need to get outside more often.
Post by: joanna50 on February 25, 2019, 05:45:52 am
I don't think they were self entitled unless you want to lump heterosexuals into that category, and the lion comment was sarcasm, im sure you can remember what that is. Animals don't have rational thought/logic, I believe its called instinct
Post by: joanna50 on February 25, 2019, 05:51:21 am
And who the hell is Seth?, and how did the guy get a wife unless he slept with Eve and so then he married his sister, see people that have rational thought and logic see this as what it really is, not quite good a story, hell a monkey can think up something better, also where the hell is Nod is that where that little domino's pizza dude lives?, fantasy and not really good fantasy at best and I have read the bible I was quite the good little church goer until I saw what organized religion and bible thumpers were really about
Post by: Window Lickers Union on February 25, 2019, 06:10:26 am
And who the hell is Seth?, and how did the guy get a wife unless he slept with Eve and so then he married his sister, see people that have rational thought and logic see this as what it really is, not quite good a story, hell a monkey can think up something better, also where the hell is Nod is that where that little domino's pizza dude lives?, fantasy and not really good fantasy at best and I have read the bible I was quite the good little church goer until I saw what organized religion and bible thumpers were really about
Instead of ranting like a loon about stuff you obvious know nothing about, why don't you try reading the Bible just once.
Also, your lack of reading comprehension is making you incapable of understanding the simplest of idea's. Seth is Eve's 3rd male child btw. The rest you can read on your own. Maybe that will clear up some of your own ignorance.
I know you're going to reply with "I'm not reading stupid made up christian fairytales", per usual. No need. So I think you have come about as far as you are able to learn anything new. And talking to you in this conversation about this topic no longer serves any purpose.
Oh, by the way. I'm really enjoying that Liberal "Tolerance" about other people's views you're displaying. A real standard trailblazer you are! Good to see you're not so "narrow-minded" like those 'dirty, white male racist homophobic christians", you're always yelling about. /s
Night.
Post by: joanna50 on February 25, 2019, 06:38:20 am
Instead of ranting like a loon about stuff you obvious know nothing about, why don't you try reading the Bible just once.So in what version of the bible are you referring cause I sure didn't read it in the King James version but that still didn't answer the question of where did the wife come from. I do tolerate other peoples views, its easier when im not exposed to stupid people, I don't think I am narrow minded I condemn all of humanity
Also, your lack of reading comprehension is making you incapable of understanding the simplest of idea's. Seth is Eve's 3rd male child btw. The rest you can read on your own. Maybe that will clear up some of your own ignorance.
I know you're going to reply with "I'm not reading stupid made up christian fairytales", per usual. No need. So I think you have come about as far as you are able to learn anything new. And talking to you in this conversation about this topic no longer serves any purpose.
Oh, by the way. I'm really enjoying that Liberal "Tolerance" about other people's views you're displaying. A real standard trailblazer you are! Good to see you're not so "narrow-minded" like those 'dirty, white male racist homophobic christians", you're always yelling about. /s
Night.
Post by: Window Lickers Union on February 25, 2019, 07:55:07 am
So in what version of the bible are you referring cause I sure didn't read it in the King James version but that still didn't answer the question of where did the wife come from. I do tolerate other peoples views, its easier when im not exposed to stupid people, I don't think I am narrow minded I condemn all of humanity
Again, the Bible is not a step by step history book. It's not going to mention everything all the time. God told Adam and Eve to multiply and fill the earth (Gen 1:4) Just because the Bible only mentions the names of Adam and Eve's first 3 male children, doesn't mean they didn't have more kids. If you of read the Bible, you would know why Seth is specifically mentioned after Abel died. Seth's descendant's are the first mentioned to "call upon the lord", his descendant's became the Patriarchs, the nation of Israel and eventually Christ.
Seth is mentioned being born in Gen 4:25 "And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew." And it is in the KJV.
Maybe you should read it again.
Edit: Grammar Hard.
Post by: purplelady1040 on February 25, 2019, 08:05:04 am
I often wondered where the other kids came from but never really cared or thought much about it. I figured not everything was written in it. I thought I read but could be wrong as it was a long time ago that Adam and Eve had other children after Seth and they were girls. Maybe Seth committed incest, who knows? In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter.
Again, the Bible is not a step by step history book. It's not going to mention everything all the time. God told Adam and Eve to multiply and fill the earth (Gen 1:4) Just because the Bible only mentions the names of Adam and Eve's first 3 male children, doesn't mean they didn't have more kids. If you of read the Bible, you would know why Seth is specifically mentioned after Abel died. Seth's descendant's are the first mentioned to "call upon the lord", his descendant's became the Patriarchs, the nation of Israel and eventually Christ.
Seth is mentioned being born in Gen 4:25 "And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew." And it is in the KJV.
Maybe you should read it again.
Edit: Grammar Hard.
Post by: fish-sticks on February 25, 2019, 08:16:29 am
Yep and media blows it out of proportionI do think the media is the biggest part of the problem.
They blow things out of proportion, and use their opinions instead of reporting on the facts.
The news should inform, it's not a drama show ... ugh
Post by: purplelady1040 on February 25, 2019, 08:21:45 am
I do think the media is the biggest part of the problem.Yep and what is funny is our local college put on a symposium the other day, I didn't get to go but it was the media and being truthful.
They blow things out of proportion, and use their opinions instead of reporting on the facts.
The news should inform, it's not a drama show ... ugh
Post by: joanna50 on February 25, 2019, 08:31:56 am
So either the bible is sexist or its just a bunch of mumble jumble meant to explain away things that have no explanation in a rational, logical way, still doesn't answer the question of where did the woman come from, which according to the bible it was just an incestuous relationship, no wonder monkeys are smarter than most humans
Again, the Bible is not a step by step history book. It's not going to mention everything all the time. God told Adam and Eve to multiply and fill the earth (Gen 1:4) Just because the Bible only mentions the names of Adam and Eve's first 3 male children, doesn't mean they didn't have more kids. If you of read the Bible, you would know why Seth is specifically mentioned after Abel died. Seth's descendant's are the first mentioned to "call upon the lord", his descendant's became the Patriarchs, the nation of Israel and eventually Christ.
Seth is mentioned being born in Gen 4:25 "And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew." And it is in the KJV.
Maybe you should read it again.
Edit: Grammar Hard.
Post by: joanna50 on February 25, 2019, 08:34:39 am
I often wondered where the other kids came from but never really cared or thought much about it. I figured not everything was written in it. I thought I read but could be wrong as it was a long time ago that Adam and Eve had other children after Seth and they were girls. Maybe Seth committed incest, who knows? In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter.I think it matters because it points out the hypocrisy of organized religion, especially Christianity
Post by: fish-sticks on February 25, 2019, 08:51:01 am
So either the bible is sexist or its just a bunch of mumble jumble meant to explain away things that have no explanation in a rational, logical way, still doesn't answer the question of where did the woman come from, which according to the bible it was just an incestuous relationship, no wonder monkeys are smarter than most humansI am very late in this conversation but one needs to look at the times that the bible was written.
Look how long in history it took for woman to get the right to vote or the same pay or opportunities as a man ..... it is what it WAS.
Today is different.
I will probably get bashed for this but it's what I think.
There are exceptional women in history and now. But in truth, men are the strongest. I would prefer a squad of firemen saving my home as opposed to a squad of women. That's just me. And women can't have it both way.
I heard a comedian say "Women stood up for their rights, and lost their seat on the bus"
Now, IMO .... the bible is a book of teachings, a guild line that was written in certain times. But the 10 commandments show a moral code that all should observe. Do not steal, kill, or covet .... that's pretty basic. And folks who us terms like "an eye for an eye" need to go back and read what that actually means and it doesn't say revenge.
I am a Pagan, so I am no expert on the bible but I have read it. I raised 2 Christian sons because I gave them free choice. My eldest is more of a Pagan then he knows. I think he is still finding his way.
We all have our opinions. We should all be tolerant of other beliefs.
Diversity makes us all unique.
(Bex steps down from soapbox)
Post by: Window Lickers Union on February 25, 2019, 09:29:19 am
I often wondered where the other kids came from but never really cared or thought much about it. I figured not everything was written in it. I thought I read but could be wrong as it was a long time ago that Adam and Eve had other children after Seth and they were girls. Maybe Seth committed incest, who knows? In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter.
You are correct. I didn't remember it, but there it is.
Genesis 5:3-4
"When Adam had lived 130 years, he fathered a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth. The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters."
All I can find about the incest thing is, arguing if it was forbidden because it was a sin or a law to protect for genetic defects since enough generations had passed from Adam and Eve and they would begin to manifest themselves. I know it can seem "gross" to view this act from today's moral standpoint, but if we our all descendant's from Adam and Eve, then we're all family members to begin with. So there is that to think about.
And before someone from the evolutionary camp comes in here saying something. Ya, you are pretty much in the same boat of doing your kin also - if you think about it.
Post by: fish-sticks on February 25, 2019, 09:42:08 am
You are correct. I didn't remember it, but there it is.Incest has be around for ages .... no shock there.
Genesis 5:3-4
"When Adam had lived 130 years, he fathered a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth. The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters."
All I can find about the incest thing is, arguing if it was forbidden because it was a sin or a law to protect for genetic defects since enough generations had passed from Adam and Eve and they would begin to manifest themselves. I know it can seem "gross" to view this act from today's moral standpoint, but if we our all descendant's from Adam and Eve, then we're all family members to begin with. So there is that to think about.
And before someone from the evolutionary camp comes in here saying something. Ya, you are pretty much in the same boat of doing your kin also - if you think about it.
Didn't royalty marry within the family back in the day?
Post by: Window Lickers Union on February 25, 2019, 09:56:59 am
So either the bible is sexist or its just a bunch of mumble jumble meant to explain away things that have no explanation in a rational, logical way, still doesn't answer the question of where did the woman come from, which according to the bible it was just an incestuous relationship, no wonder monkeys are smarter than most humans
Joanna, you should probably close your mouth a little more often and listen. You do nothing but jump to conclusion and berate anything you don't understand, while not even trying to even attempt to learn yourself. I don't have all the answers, I doubt no man does. I also haven't picked up a Bible in over 20 years. So even my knowledge is rusty. I've told you this before.
Look, the six O'clock news doesn't explain how the gas man delivered the gas to the gas station, but you can infer he did because you are able to put gas in your tank. right?
Oh, and it didn't mention all the women in town who had nothing to do with said delivery, must be sexist ....right? Dear God, seriously?
For the love of everything that is good. Settle the fuq down and go get laid. lol.
I am very late in this conversation but one needs to look at the times that the bible was written.
Look how long in history it took for woman to get the right to vote or the same pay or opportunities as a man ..... it is what it WAS.
Today is different.
I will probably get bashed for this but it's what I think.
There are exceptional women in history and now. But in truth, men are the strongest. I would prefer a squad of firemen saving my home as opposed to a squad of women. That's just me. And women can't have it both way.
I heard a comedian say "Women stood up for their rights, and lost their seat on the bus"
Now, IMO .... the bible is a book of teachings, a guild line that was written in certain times. But the 10 commandments show a moral code that all should observe. Do not steal, kill, or covet .... that's pretty basic. And folks who us terms like "an eye for an eye" need to go back and read what that actually means and it doesn't say revenge.
I am a Pagan, so I am no expert on the bible but I have read it. I raised 2 Christian sons because I gave them free choice. My eldest is more of a Pagan then he knows. I think he is still finding his way.
We all have our opinions. We should all be tolerant of other beliefs.
Diversity makes us all unique.
(Bex steps down from soapbox)
I tried to explain to Joanna equality under the law does not equate to equal biologically. Clearly men and women are made different to do different things.
I agree that women gave up so much more than they realize. Women, for the most part were always honored in western society. They may of not been able to do everything a man did, but that didn't make them unequal. They (Joanna) say they celebrate "feminism",but all the while trying to be masculine as men. We see this insecurity play out as Joanna rages everything patriarchal. Boogieman under the bed with everything with these types of people, just like Der and others seeing racism in every non-event scenario. Sad.
Incest has be around for ages .... no shock there.
Didn't royalty marry within the family back in the day?
I believe so. For the life of me I can't recall any specifics. Here I am up all night with no sleep again.
Post by: fish-sticks on February 25, 2019, 10:03:36 am
Must have been the French ... oops!
Post by: fish-sticks on February 25, 2019, 10:12:44 am
Hawaiian royalty in the 1800 encouraged it.
King Tut had massive health issues due to inbreeding.
King Charles II, the last of Spain’s Hapsburg rulers. The result of 200 years of intermarriage (copy paste)
Cleopatra was married to both of her brothers. In fact, only six individuals filled the 16 great-grandparent roles on Cleopatra’s family tree. (copy paste)
Interesting
Post by: joanna50 on February 25, 2019, 10:37:48 am
I am very late in this conversation but one needs to look at the times that the bible was written.True there are definite physical differences also some emotional differences between men and women and both have played some pretty important parts in history and in modern times as well. I don't care what a person believes as long as they don't push their beliefs onto others
Look how long in history it took for woman to get the right to vote or the same pay or opportunities as a man ..... it is what it WAS.
Today is different.
I will probably get bashed for this but it's what I think.
There are exceptional women in history and now. But in truth, men are the strongest. I would prefer a squad of firemen saving my home as opposed to a squad of women. That's just me. And women can't have it both way.
I heard a comedian say "Women stood up for their rights, and lost their seat on the bus"
Now, IMO .... the bible is a book of teachings, a guild line that was written in certain times. But the 10 commandments show a moral code that all should observe. Do not steal, kill, or covet .... that's pretty basic. And folks who us terms like "an eye for an eye" need to go back and read what that actually means and it doesn't say revenge.
I am a Pagan, so I am no expert on the bible but I have read it. I raised 2 Christian sons because I gave them free choice. My eldest is more of a Pagan then he knows. I think he is still finding his way.
We all have our opinions. We should all be tolerant of other beliefs.
Diversity makes us all unique.
(Bex steps down from soapbox)
Post by: Window Lickers Union on February 25, 2019, 11:00:31 am
And of course I had to google it.
Hawaiian royalty in the 1800 encouraged it.
King Tut had massive health issues due to inbreeding.
King Charles II, the last of Spain’s Hapsburg rulers. The result of 200 years of intermarriage (copy paste)
Cleopatra was married to both of her brothers. In fact, only six individuals filled the 16 great-grandparent roles on Cleopatra’s family tree. (copy paste)
Interesting
Very interesting. Thank you.
I guess Cleopatra really did have herself smuggled into Julius Caesar's chambers due to her and her brother feuding. We see the scene play out in Elizabeth Taylor's movie "Cleopatra".
She also killed herself after her lover Mark Anthony killed himself after learning falsely she was dead. I wonder if this is where Shakespeare got the ending to Romeo and Juliet from.
Post by: purplelady1040 on February 25, 2019, 11:57:29 am
You are correct. I didn't remember it, but there it is.Yep, I thought I remembered the Biblical.teachings of it but wasn't sure. I could have gotten my Bible down and looked it up but I guess I was being lazy. Lol.
Genesis 5:3-4
"When Adam had lived 130 years, he fathered a son in his own likeness, after his image, and named him Seth. The days of Adam after he fathered Seth were 800 years; and he had other sons and daughters."
All I can find about the incest thing is, arguing if it was forbidden because it was a sin or a law to protect for genetic defects since enough generations had passed from Adam and Eve and they would begin to manifest themselves. I know it can seem "gross" to view this act from today's moral standpoint, but if we our all descendant's from Adam and Eve, then we're all family members to begin with. So there is that to think about.
And before someone from the evolutionary camp comes in here saying something. Ya, you are pretty much in the same boat of doing your kin also - if you think about it.
Actually, your posts about incest isn't too far iff in some ways. My late father in law's family moved into town for hin to date girls because it was going to.be that he was almost dating cousins. Some in his family ended up marrying cousins but they were so far down the line that it didn't matter.
Post by: purplelady1040 on February 25, 2019, 11:58:59 am
And of course I had to google it.Yes, royalty often married within the family. I also believe they did in Biblical times also.
Hawaiian royalty in the 1800 encouraged it.
King Tut had massive health issues due to inbreeding.
King Charles II, the last of Spain’s Hapsburg rulers. The result of 200 years of intermarriage (copy paste)
Cleopatra was married to both of her brothers. In fact, only six individuals filled the 16 great-grandparent roles on Cleopatra’s family tree. (copy paste)
Interesting
Post by: purplelady1040 on February 25, 2019, 12:00:17 pm
Very interesting. Thank you.I believe it was and doesn't art often imitate history?
I guess Cleopatra really did have herself smuggled into Julius Caesar's chambers due to her and her brother feuding. We see the scene play out in Elizabeth Taylor's movie "Cleopatra".
She also killed herself after her lover Mark Anthony killed himself after learning falsely she was dead. I wonder if this is where Shakespeare got the ending to Romeo and Juliet from.
Post by: joanna50 on February 25, 2019, 01:29:27 pm
Joanna, you should probably close your mouth a little more often and listen. You do nothing but jump to conclusion and berate anything you don't understand, while not even trying to even attempt to learn yourself. I don't have all the answers, I doubt no man does. I also haven't picked up a Bible in over 20 years. So even my knowledge is rusty. I've told you this before.
Look, the six O'clock news doesn't explain how the gas man delivered the gas to the gas station, but you can infer he did because you are able to put gas in your tank. right?
Oh, and it didn't mention all the women in town who had nothing to do with said delivery, must be sexist ....right? Dear God, seriously?
For the love of everything that is good. Settle the fuq down and go get laid. lol.
Well your example isn't really applicable but for the sake of argument I will settle the fuq down but I cant speak about the second part
I tried to explain to Joanna equality under the law does not equate to equal biologically. Clearly men and women are made different to do different things.
I agree that women gave up so much more than they realize. Women, for the most part were always honored in western society. They may of not been able to do everything a man did, but that didn't make them unequal. They (Joanna) say they celebrate "feminism",but all the while trying to be masculine as men. We see this insecurity play out as Joanna rages everything patriarchal. Boogieman under the bed with everything with these types of people, just like Der and others seeing racism in every non-event scenario. Sad.
I believe so. For the life of me I can't recall any specifics. Here I am up all night with no sleep again.
Post by: joanna50 on February 25, 2019, 01:37:17 pm
First off your example is not applicable, secondly I never said celebrate feminism, thirdly I don't rage and I am definatly ok with being a woman and in no way try to be masculine except for the rare case of wearing a flannel shirt due to it being cold as a well diggers ass outside so you are placing your assumptions on the wrong gal, now go make me a sandwich
Joanna, you should probably close your mouth a little more often and listen. You do nothing but jump to conclusion and berate anything you don't understand, while not even trying to even attempt to learn yourself. I don't have all the answers, I doubt no man does. I also haven't picked up a Bible in over 20 years. So even my knowledge is rusty. I've told you this before.
Look, the six O'clock news doesn't explain how the gas man delivered the gas to the gas station, but you can infer he did because you are able to put gas in your tank. right?
Oh, and it didn't mention all the women in town who had nothing to do with said delivery, must be sexist ....right? Dear God, seriously?
For the love of everything that is good. Settle the fuq down and go get laid. lol.
I tried to explain to Joanna equality under the law does not equate to equal biologically. Clearly men and women are made different to do different things.
I agree that women gave up so much more than they realize. Women, for the most part were always honored in western society. They may of not been able to do everything a man did, but that didn't make them unequal. They (Joanna) say they celebrate "feminism",but all the while trying to be masculine as men. We see this insecurity play out as Joanna rages everything patriarchal. Boogieman under the bed with everything with these types of people, just like Der and others seeing racism in every non-event scenario. Sad.
I believe so. For the life of me I can't recall any specifics. Here I am up all night with no sleep again.
Post by: Window Lickers Union on February 25, 2019, 11:04:28 pm
First off your example is not applicable, secondly I never said celebrate feminism, thirdly I don't rage and I am definatly ok with being a woman and in no way try to be masculine except for the rare case of wearing a flannel shirt due to it being cold as a well diggers ass outside so you are placing your assumptions on the wrong gal, now go make me a sandwich
It is very applicable. And the absurdity you put on it, is the same absurdity other see you when you make such nonsensical claims that the Bible is "sexist" because it didn't mention women in one instance that didn't need to be mentioned to further the story line. For something to be not "sexist", that it needs to mention women or insert women in everything is beyond ludacris and shows how delusional and disconnected you fanatical liberal feminist are from reality.
You may deny you're a feminist all you want, but given the above intensity of your "sexist" rant you just displayed to everybody- Your actions speak louder than words.
Post by: joanna50 on February 26, 2019, 05:07:04 am
No it isn't applicable just because its logical doesn't mean it applies, and its not how many times women are mentioned in the bible its in the content of how they are mentioned, ie: women should obey their husbands that crap is even in wedding vows, I am not fanatical perhaps a bit to passionate about how women should be equal but we aren't and I don't think we will ever be, I am also not a feminists so by painting me as such fills some need within you but its not the reality, sometimes its not what you say but how you say it and sometimes a cigar is just a cigar
It is very applicable. And the absurdity you put on it, is the same absurdity other see you when you make such nonsensical claims that the Bible is "sexist" because it didn't mention women in one instance that didn't need to be mentioned to further the story line. For something to be not "sexist", that it needs to mention women or insert women in everything is beyond ludacris and shows how delusional and disconnected you fanatical liberal feminist are from reality.
You may deny you're a feminist all you want, but given the above intensity of your "sexist" rant you just displayed to everybody- Your actions speak louder than words.
Post by: Window Lickers Union on February 26, 2019, 05:56:46 am
No it isn't applicable just because its logical doesn't mean it applies, and its not how many times women are mentioned in the bible its in the content of how they are mentioned, ie: women should obey their husbands that crap is even in wedding vows, I am not fanatical perhaps a bit to passionate about how women should be equal but we aren't and I don't think we will ever be, I am also not a feminists so by painting me as such fills some need within you but its not the reality, sometimes its not what you say but how you say it and sometimes a cigar is just a cigar
Women are mentioned in the Bible all the time. In good context and bad, just as much as men are. And to finish your half-assed quote to push your anti-christian/male agenda, the second half of that verse says (paraphrased) Husbands don't be bitter to your wives. There are rules for the husband just as much to the wife. I'm sorry if you draw false conclusions out of your own willful ignorance and loathing.
You can be passionate all you want, but let's temper some of that with knowledge before you go off half-cocked on a satanic rampage thru Christiandom, shall we? I think we both can agree on that.
Your fears of women never being equal are not unfounded. If you were equal to men, you'd be called a man. And if men were equal to women, they'd be called women. Even "equality" under the law will never happen 100%. Humans are flawed creature's, somebody will always want what somebody else has and more. The type of parity you are looking for doesn't exist - fiction. And the people promising it to you are liars, high-jacking your emotions.
To you being a radical left-wing feminist. Would you believe after talking to me for 6 years, that I'm not a racist if I said I wasn't? Now apply the same to yourself.
Post by: joanna50 on February 26, 2019, 07:31:39 am
Hmm I have to say you have made some very logical points, and yes if you said you weren't a racist I would believe you, I have no reason to lie and assume the same applies with you
Women are mentioned in the Bible all the time. In good context and bad, just as much as men are. And to finish your half-assed quote to push your anti-christian/male agenda, the second half of that verse says (paraphrased) Husbands don't be bitter to your wives. There are rules for the husband just as much to the wife. I'm sorry if you draw false conclusions out of your own willful ignorance and loathing.
You can be passionate all you want, but let's temper some of that with knowledge before you go off half-cocked on a satanic rampage thru Christiandom, shall we? I think we both can agree on that.
Your fears of women never being equal are not unfounded. If you were equal to men, you'd be called a man. And if men were equal to women, they'd be called women. Even "equality" under the law will never happen 100%. Humans are flawed creature's, somebody will always want what somebody else has and more. The type of parity you are looking for doesn't exist - fiction. And the people promising it to you are liars, high-jacking your emotions.
To you being a radical left-wing feminist. Would you believe after talking to me for 6 years, that I'm not a racist if I said I wasn't? Now apply the same to yourself.
Post by: Der Fuehrer on February 27, 2019, 08:17:35 am
Hmm I have to say you have made some very logical points, and yes if you said you weren't a racist I would believe you, I have no reason to lie and assume the same applies with you
Please don't encourage him.
Post by: joanna50 on February 27, 2019, 09:29:34 am
Please don't encourage him.I really hated to say that and I did quite grudgingly, but in the spirit of discussion it needed said
Post by: cowface on February 27, 2019, 10:05:49 pm
Post by: joanna50 on February 27, 2019, 10:42:50 pm
Hi Joanna, good to see you... I am not up to speed on this whole conversation here, but just from a quick speed read I feel compelled to join in and say this... I have read that all embrios in mother's womb begin all the same and are orignally sexless... and could go either way male or female. At some point they grow to be boy or girl... but orignate as one and the same. Call me crazy... but both male and female have nipples... they come stock on all models.Good to see you too, and good point about the nipples
Post by: Ride The Lightning on February 28, 2019, 07:22:38 pm
Post by: Jackie on February 28, 2019, 07:26:25 pm
Post by: cowface on February 28, 2019, 07:27:15 pm
I HATE politics...I hate hateful arguments over politics... but I think good government is needed... which rquires good politics. But I know what you mean SNAFU.
Post by: Ride The Lightning on February 28, 2019, 07:30:39 pm
I hate hateful arguments over politics... but I think good government is needed... which rquires good politics. But I know what you mean SNAFU.Good government requires HONEST people...unfortunately that seems to go against human nature...so I think we're pretty much screwed...
Yet another reason to hate politics...
Post by: purplelady1040 on February 28, 2019, 07:39:51 pm
Good government requires HONEST people...unfortunately that seems to go against human nature...so I think we're pretty much screwed...Well, with what's in office these days from local, to state, to national politicians, I would say all of us are screwed.
Yet another reason to hate politics...
Post by: cowface on February 28, 2019, 07:48:02 pm
Well, with what's in office these days from local, to state, to national politicians, I would say all of us are screwed.This is not to be denied. I am sure there are a few good ones however... so I won't slight them all.
Post by: purplelady1040 on February 28, 2019, 08:03:00 pm
This is not to be denied. I am sure there are a few good ones however... so I won't slight them all.There may be but the bad ones give even the good ones a bad name. I am a firm believer that term limits needs to be done on state and national level.
Post by: Realtime on March 01, 2019, 09:46:43 am
It was the video(s) without which we'd have never learned of the incident.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 06, 2019, 04:53:47 am
You have people like Joanna who believe in killing an unborn child is a 'right', but rages against somebody who abuses an animal/child. You can't make this level of insanity up. I tried to tell her, draw pictures and sent a video link on how children are made, and that if "pro-choice" people don't want kids they should stop doing the very ONE thing causing it. I don't think it has sunk in yet....Question: what does it mean to allow our children to be sent to slaughter? And I beg to differ on biblical spin put to your own. Please re-read your bible for context because I believe it is you who are flat wrong on your own narrative vs that of the biblical god’s cause he is just fine with abortions.
But as we see, it isn't about really having a 'choice' cause 'my body', it's really about not wanting to pay the consequences for our actions.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 06, 2019, 05:07:27 am
https://youtu.be/OEzKQi1sq8A
Post by: purplelady1040 on March 06, 2019, 08:01:21 am
Question: what does it mean to allow our children to be sent to slaughter? And I beg to differ on biblical spin put to your own. Please re-read your bible for context because I believe it is you who are flat wrong on your own narrative vs that of the biblical god’s cause he is just fine with abortions.Even in the Bible, it talked of killing children for sacrifices not the same as abortion since they were already born but still murder. It also was stoning a woman for supposedly being a harlot.
Post by: Window Lickers Union on March 06, 2019, 08:44:08 am
Question: what does it mean to allow our children to be sent to slaughter? And I beg to differ on biblical spin put to your own. Please re-read your bible for context because I believe it is you who are flat wrong on your own narrative vs that of the biblical god’s cause he is just fine with abortions.
Question: what does it mean to allow our children to be sent to slaughter? And I beg to differ on biblical spin put to your own. Please re-read your bible for context because I believe it is you who are flat wrong on your own narrative vs that of the biblical god’s cause he is just fine with abortions.
Can you please point out where I said abortion was against the biblical God's will in this conversation? I seriously doubt you can.
It's a little too early in the year to be making Strawman (fallacies), don't ya think?
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 06, 2019, 12:42:29 pm
Even in the Bible, it talked of killing children for sacrifices not the same as abortion since they were already born but still murder. It also was stoning a woman for supposedly being a harlot.Ten biblical episodes and prophecies provide an unequivocal expression of God's attitude toward human life, especially the ontological status of "unborn children" and their pregnant mothers-to-be. Brief summaries:
• A pregnant woman who is injured and aborts the fetus warrants financial compensation only (to her husband), suggesting that the fetus is property, not a person (Exodus 21:22-25).
• The gruesome priestly purity test to which a wife accused of adultery must submit will cause her to abort the fetus if she is guilty, indicating that the fetus does not possess a right to life (Numbers 5:11-31).
• God enumerated his punishments for disobedience, including "cursed shall be the fruit of your womb" and "you will eat the fruit of your womb," directly contradicting sanctity-of-life claims (Deuteronomy 28:18,53).
• Elisha's prophecy for soon-to-be King Hazael said he would attack the Israelites, burn their cities, crush the heads of their babies and rip open their pregnant women (2 Kings 8:12).
• King Menahem of Israel destroyed Tiphsah (also called Tappuah) and the surrounding towns, killing all residents and ripping open pregnant women with the sword (2 Kings 15:16).
• Isaiah prophesied doom for Babylon, including the murder of unborn children: "They will have no pity on the fruit of the womb" (Isaiah 13:18).
• For worshiping idols, God declared that not one of his people would live, not a man, woman or child (not even babies in arms), again confuting assertions about the sanctity of life (Jeremiah 44:7-8).
• God will punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb, or never even be conceived (Hosea 9:10-16).
• For rebelling against God, Samaria's people will be killed, their babies will be dashed to death against the ground, and their pregnant women will be ripped open with a sword (Hosea 13:16).
• Jesus did not express any special concern for unborn children during the anticipated end times: "Woe to pregnant women and those who are nursing" (Matthew 24:19).
Shall I go on?
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 06, 2019, 12:48:34 pm
Women are mentioned in the Bible all the time. In good context and bad, just as much as men are. And to finish your half-assed quote to push your anti-christian/male agenda, the second half of that verse says (paraphrased) Husbands don't be bitter to your wives. There are rules for the husband just as much to the wife. I'm sorry if you draw false conclusions out of your own willful ignorance and loathing.
You can be passionate all you want, but let's temper some of that with knowledge before you go off half-cocked on a satanic rampage thru Christiandom, shall we? I think we both can agree on that.
Your fears of women never being equal are not unfounded. If you were equal to men, you'd be called a man. And if men were equal to women, they'd be called women. Even "equality" under the law will never happen 100%. Humans are flawed creature's, somebody will always want what somebody else has and more. The type of parity you are looking for doesn't exist - fiction. And the people promising it to you are liars, high-jacking your emotions.
To you being a radical left-wing feminist. Would you believe after talking to me for 6 years, that I'm not a racist if I said I wasn't? Now apply the same to yourself.
There are more rules for women than the good old boy network as the Bible was written by men.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 06, 2019, 12:52:24 pm
Women are mentioned in the Bible all the time. In good context and bad, just as much as men are. And to finish your half-assed quote to push your anti-christian/male agenda, the second half of that verse says (paraphrased) Husbands don't be bitter to your wives. There are rules for the husband just as much to the wife. I'm sorry if you draw false conclusions out of your own willful ignorance and loathing.
You can be passionate all you want, but let's temper some of that with knowledge before you go off half-cocked on a satanic rampage thru Christiandom, shall we? I think we both can agree on that.
Your fears of women never being equal are not unfounded. If you were equal to men, you'd be called a man. And if men were equal to women, they'd be called women. Even "equality" under the law will never happen 100%. Humans are flawed creature's, somebody will always want what somebody else has and more. The type of parity you are looking for doesn't exist - fiction. And the people promising it to you are liars, high-jacking your emotions.
To you being a radical left-wing feminist. Would you believe after talking to me for 6 years, that I'm not a racist if I said I wasn't? Now apply the same to yourself.
Please re-read for context because you’re bias is showing.
Men owned women.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 06, 2019, 01:11:32 pm
The second part of the verse you seem to be quoting from saying (paraphrased) "women be subservient to your husband" says, "Husbands do not be bitter with your wife".
Usually that last part is left out to push the Anti-Christian/Male narrative, that men have no responsibility to the woman. I'm not saying some false "Christians" don't use the Bible like everyone else to push their corrupt agenda's too. That seems to becoming more and more of a problem these days, as it was foretold. But then again, that's why we're told to be savvy in the Lords word to discern such wolfs in sheep's clothing. Not to be fooled. But I'd be careful not to go so far as to lump all Christians into that category.
Also, it seems you are trying to compare biblical law, that is a guide to how to live spiritually obedient to Gods will on Earth with a document (Constitution) that is to establish how the US Government is to be governed - it's limit of power, responsibilities etc etc, as if it were a competing guide to the same thing. So, I understand your confusion.
1 Timothy 2:12 - But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
That look like the wife is your equal, or owned as property?
So there’s your context.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 06, 2019, 01:30:22 pm
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I think anyone who is abusive in any form lacks self control and self esteem, instead of being ok with themselves with all the human fallacies and imperfections they take their fears and insecurities out on others, very cowardly and exhibits a extreme amount of poor moral fiber, as WLU would say off to the FEMA camp with them
You have people like Joanna who believe in killing an unborn child is a 'right', but rages against somebody who abuses an animal/child. You can't make this level of insanity up. I tried to tell her, draw pictures and sent a video link on how children are made, and that if "pro-choice" people don't want kids they should stop doing the very ONE thing causing it. I don't think it has sunk in yet....
But as we see, it isn't about really having a 'choice' cause 'my body', it's really about not wanting to pay the consequences for our actions.
I’d say this pretty much is the summary of your bull. lol
So how do you proceed in helping them? And do you have sex, or just win with all that abstinence bull you’re peddling here?
Post by: joanna50 on March 06, 2019, 02:08:45 pm
#76 ReplyWhat type of point are you trying to make?
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I think anyone who is abusive in any form lacks self control and self esteem, instead of being ok with themselves with all the human fallacies and imperfections they take their fears and insecurities out on others, very cowardly and exhibits a extreme amount of poor moral fiber, as WLU would say off to the FEMA camp with them
You have people like Joanna who believe in killing an unborn child is a 'right', but rages against somebody who abuses an animal/child. You can't make this level of insanity up. I tried to tell her, draw pictures and sent a video link on how children are made, and that if "pro-choice" people don't want kids they should stop doing the very ONE thing causing it. I don't think it has sunk in yet....
But as we see, it isn't about really having a 'choice' cause 'my body', it's really about not wanting to pay the consequences for our actions.
I’d say this pretty much is the summary of your bull. lol
So how do you proceed in helping them? And do you have sex, or just win with all that abstinence bull you’re peddling here?
Post by: purplelady1040 on March 06, 2019, 02:18:58 pm
Ten biblical episodes and prophecies provide an unequivocal expression of God's attitude toward human life, especially the ontological status of "unborn children" and their pregnant mothers-to-be. Brief summaries:Nope, and those were the verses exactly.
• A pregnant woman who is injured and aborts the fetus warrants financial compensation only (to her husband), suggesting that the fetus is property, not a person (Exodus 21:22-25).
• The gruesome priestly purity test to which a wife accused of adultery must submit will cause her to abort the fetus if she is guilty, indicating that the fetus does not possess a right to life (Numbers 5:11-31).
• God enumerated his punishments for disobedience, including "cursed shall be the fruit of your womb" and "you will eat the fruit of your womb," directly contradicting sanctity-of-life claims (Deuteronomy 28:18,53).
• Elisha's prophecy for soon-to-be King Hazael said he would attack the Israelites, burn their cities, crush the heads of their babies and rip open their pregnant women (2 Kings 8:12).
• King Menahem of Israel destroyed Tiphsah (also called Tappuah) and the surrounding towns, killing all residents and ripping open pregnant women with the sword (2 Kings 15:16).
• Isaiah prophesied doom for Babylon, including the murder of unborn children: "They will have no pity on the fruit of the womb" (Isaiah 13:18).
• For worshiping idols, God declared that not one of his people would live, not a man, woman or child (not even babies in arms), again confuting assertions about the sanctity of life (Jeremiah 44:7-8).
• God will punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb, or never even be conceived (Hosea 9:10-16).
• For rebelling against God, Samaria's people will be killed, their babies will be dashed to death against the ground, and their pregnant women will be ripped open with a sword (Hosea 13:16).
• Jesus did not express any special concern for unborn children during the anticipated end times: "Woe to pregnant women and those who are nursing" (Matthew 24:19).
Shall I go on?
Post by: purplelady1040 on March 06, 2019, 02:22:35 pm
There are more rules for women than the good old boy network as the Bible was written by men.Abraham was told to kill his son for a sacrfice. And yep, the Bible was written by men, women didn't have a voice. Had Joseph not agreed to marry Mary, she would have and could have been stoned to death for being pregnant outside of wedlock. Lots of women, I imagine were in those days for that.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 06, 2019, 02:41:36 pm
What type of point are you trying to make?The question should read as, “why is he peddling the conservative Christian nonsense that we’ve all heard before?”
His point was moot from the beginning. And I for one do not believe in Santa.
I believe he was trying for the goal of teaching you a lesson by way of conservatism.
Did it work?
He forgot how much even Liberals (that dirty word) too are just as concerned with their mates and offspring as much as any “holier than thou” Christian conservative.
Hope this helps.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 06, 2019, 02:44:20 pm
Abraham was told to kill his son for a sacrfice. And yep, the Bible was written by men, women did have a voice. Had Joseph not agreed to marry Mary, she would have and could have been stoned to death for being pregnant outside of wedlock. Lots of women, I imagine were in those days for that.I agree with you.
Post by: Window Lickers Union on March 06, 2019, 04:09:11 pm
There are more rules for women than the good old boy network as the Bible was written by men.
Do you have any proof of that? I'd settle for a well thought out speculative reason as why you think this than your obvious anti-male, "man wrote it" excuse.
You seem to be implying men are incapable of writing "pro-female" works. My, My, you're just the little sexist hypocrite. Cute.
Please re-read for context because you’re bias is showing.
Men owned women.
What does this have to do with anything I said that involves women being (paraphrased) "mentioned all the time" and "rules for the husband towards the wife" in the Bible?
1 Timothy 2:12 - But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
That look like the wife is your equal, or owned as property?
So there’s your context.
Can you please quote where I said men and women are equal? Matter of fact, here is a quote of me saying the exact opposite.
Post #103
"Your fears of women never being equal are not unfounded. If you were equal to men, you'd be called a man. And if men were equal to women, they'd be called women. Even "equality" under the law will never happen 100%. Humans are flawed creature's, somebody will always want what somebody else has and more. The type of parity you are looking for doesn't exist - fiction. And the people promising it to you are liars high-jacking your emotions" -WLU
The question should read as, “why is he peddling the conservative Christian nonsense that we’ve all heard before?”
His point was moot from the beginning. And I for one do not believe in Santa.
I believe he was trying for the goal of teaching you a lesson by way of conservatism.
Did it work?
He forgot how much even Liberals (that dirty word) too are just as concerned with their mates and offspring as much as any “holier than thou” Christian conservative.
Hope this helps.
Why? Probably because of the same reason your peddling your anti-christian, anti-male nonsense we've all heard before. This is a forum to voice divergent views. Surprising, right?
I also don't believe is Santa. So don't expect a stocking stuffer from me this Christmas.
"I believe...." Well, I guess it's nice to know you believe in something.
Don't remember saying or even implying Liberals don't care for their children or mates. Quote please.
Considering all these spammed replies you did are "moot", I doubt it helped anyone reading them.
What type of point are you trying to make?
Looks like it's try to make a point in hysterics of how not to debate. Nothing but spammed replies as you can see that have nothing to do with anything actually said.
Troll Level 0/10. Sad.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 06, 2019, 05:01:53 pm
Do you have any proof of that? I'd settle for a well thought out speculative reason as why you think this than your obvious anti-male, "man wrote it" excuse.Thought so. I’ll respond in a few... holier than thou. lol
You seem to be implying men are incapable of writing "pro-female" works. My, My, you're just the little sexist hypocrite. Cute.
What does this have to do with anything I said that involves women being (paraphrased) "mentioned all the time" and "rules for the husband towards the wife" in the Bible?
Can you please quote where I said men and women are equal? Matter of fact, here is a quote of me saying the exact opposite.
Post #103
"Your fears of women never being equal are not unfounded. If you were equal to men, you'd be called a man. And if men were equal to women, they'd be called women. Even "equality" under the law will never happen 100%. Humans are flawed creature's, somebody will always want what somebody else has and more. The type of parity you are looking for doesn't exist - fiction. And the people promising it to you are liars high-jacking your emotions" -WLU
Why? Probably because of the same reason your peddling your anti-christian, anti-male nonsense we've all heard before. This is a forum to voice divergent views. Surprising, right?
I also don't believe is Santa. So don't expect a stocking stuffer from me this Christmas.
"I believe...." Well, I guess it's nice to know you believe in something.
Don't remember saying or even implying Liberals don't care for their children or mates. Quote please.
Considering all these spammed replies you did are "moot", I doubt it helped anyone reading them.
Looks like it's try to make a point in hysterics of how not to debate. Nothing but spammed replies as you can see that have nothing to do with anything actually said.
Troll Level 0/10. Sad.
Post by: joanna50 on March 06, 2019, 05:43:28 pm
The question should read as, “why is he peddling the conservative Christian nonsense that we’ve all heard before?”Personally I think he was just trying for the knee jerk emotional response he always tries to get from me, he knows he cant teach an old dog new tricks but its fun to see him try. And yes Virgina there is a Santa Clause
His point was moot from the beginning. And I for one do not believe in Santa.
I believe he was trying for the goal of teaching you a lesson by way of conservatism.
Did it work?
He forgot how much even Liberals (that dirty word) too are just as concerned with their mates and offspring as much as any “holier than thou” Christian conservative.
Hope this helps.
Post by: joanna50 on March 06, 2019, 05:49:51 pm
Post by: Window Lickers Union on March 08, 2019, 07:31:14 am
Personally I think he was just trying for the knee jerk emotional response he always tries to get from me, he knows he cant teach an old dog new tricks but its fun to see him try. And yes Virgina there is a Santa Clause
As a known (maybe not here yet) person who can play the Devils advocate on just about any topic, I'm surprised you keep repeating this. I think getting people to look in the mirror at their hypocrisy and flawed logical/critical thinking has noting to do with "trying" for knee jerk reactions .regardless if they're white, black, secular, religious, male, female, adult or child. If there is a knee jerk reaction, that is more of the natural reaction of someone coming to terms with reality than you (others) falsely thinking I'm goading you (others) on for it.
I could of just as easily throw out verse about how the Bible condones racism and/or sexism and have in the past (on Topix), just as well as said I don't believe it does. As seen in a few other topics on this section of the forum, there is a overwhelming liberal slant on everyone's comments. So if you (others) wrongly think I'm a "right wing, Christian entitled white male" it's only because it's a product of the environment of these forums. If this was a right leaning forum, I'd probably be called a liberal fanatic. I know, just imagine that one....right?
People who stop questioning the world are intellectually dead. Those people are unable to cope outside their 'Plato's cave'. They would rather keep watching the shadows on the walls, fearful of what they might see if they were able to look away. Those types of people have threads removed, have uncontrolled emotional outbursts towards different views, as seen already here on this forum. It's quite sad to think these types of people fancy themselves as "intellectuals".
I suppose if everyone wants to bury their head in the sand, circle jerk each other off whilst patting each other on the back in their delusions, I could leave (don't worry, I'm not). But I suppose this forum section would get pretty boring just being a reverberation of the status quo. Imagine me if you will, as the harbinger of the truth of reality. The slave of old, who whispered in the ears of triumphant roman generals that he was "only human", to keep him grounded in reality and humbled.
It's a public service, and someone has to do it. And I do it quite well.
Love, WLU
Post by: joanna50 on March 08, 2019, 09:02:13 am
You have been known and admitted yourself that you have tried to get me to become an emotionally enraged, I think you do this to lead the discussion away from when its been noted that you were wrong, which is more than you think. A truth you have spoken is yes you do this quite well but sometimes your perception of reality tends to be flavored with just a taste of narcissism, its ok I find it compelling enough
As a known (maybe not here yet) person who can play the Devils advocate on just about any topic, I'm surprised you keep repeating this. I think getting people to look in the mirror at their hypocrisy and flawed logical/critical thinking has noting to do with "trying" for knee jerk reactions .regardless if they're white, black, secular, religious, male, female, adult or child. If there is a knee jerk reaction, that is more of the natural reaction of someone coming to terms with reality than you (others) falsely thinking I'm goading you (others) on for it.
I could of just as easily throw out verse about how the Bible condones racism and/or sexism and have in the past (on Topix), just as well as said I don't believe it does. As seen in a few other topics on this section of the forum, there is a overwhelming liberal slant on everyone's comments. So if you (others) wrongly think I'm a "right wing, Christian entitled white male" it's only because it's a product of the environment of these forums. If this was a right leaning forum, I'd probably be called a liberal fanatic. I know, just imagine that one....right?
People who stop questioning the world are intellectually dead. Those people are unable to cope outside their 'Plato's cave'. They would rather keep watching the shadows on the walls, fearful of what they might see if they were able to look away. Those types of people have threads removed, have uncontrolled emotional outbursts towards different views, as seen already here on this forum. It's quite sad to think these types of people fancy themselves as "intellectuals".
I suppose if everyone wants to bury their head in the sand, circle jerk each other off whilst patting each other on the back in their delusions, I could leave (don't worry, I'm not). But I suppose this forum section would get pretty boring just being a reverberation of the status quo. Imagine me if you will, as the harbinger of the truth of reality. The slave of old, who whispered in the ears of triumphant roman generals that he was "only human", to keep him grounded in reality and humbled.
It's a public service, and someone has to do it. And I do it quite well.
Love, WLU
Post by: cowface on March 19, 2019, 01:16:43 am
Post by: joanna50 on March 19, 2019, 06:01:42 am
Hi! joanna50... pardon intrusion into the coversation... but do you know whatever became of 40ish? I wish we could get her onboard here.Not sure we kinda lost touch with each other, good to see you hope you are well
Post by: cowface on March 19, 2019, 06:56:46 pm
Not sure we kinda lost touch with each other, good to see you hope you are wellYep, you too... all is well here. Wishing you the same.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 20, 2019, 03:04:28 pm
“Do you have any proof of that? I'd settle for a well thought out speculative reason as why you think this than your obvious anti-male, "man wrote it" excuse.
You seem to be implying men are incapable of writing "pro-female" works. My, My, you're just the little sexist hypocrite. Cute.”
This the best you have given the evidence throughout the world where man has reigned with supremacy?
So what’s your excuse for having no knowledge of this fact, or were you never allowed to wearing anything else but blinders?
Sad
“What does this have to do with anything I said that involves women being (paraphrased) "mentioned all the time" and "rules for the husband towards the wife" in the Bible? “
I think we’ve been over this already.
Next!
Can you please quote where I said men and women are equal? Matter of fact, here is a quote of me saying the exact opposite.
Post #103
"Your fears of women never being equal are not unfounded. If you were equal to men, you'd be called a man. And if men were equal to women, they'd be called women. Even "equality" under the law will never happen 100%. Humans are flawed creature's, somebody will always want what somebody else has and more. The type of parity you are looking for doesn't exist - fiction. And the people promising it to you are “liars high-jacking your emotions" -WLU”
And is something we as a nation of people should fix.
“Why? Probably because of the same reason your peddling your anti-christian, anti-male nonsense we've all heard before. This is a forum to voice divergent views. Surprising, right?”
Deflection, suits you! Since you have virtually no ability to counter an argument, and you’re trying to bring others in this when I’m clearly speaking to you, you seem very confused.
“I also don't believe is Santa. So don't expect a stocking stuffer from me this Christmas.”
"I believe...." Well, I guess it's nice to know you believe in something. “
Don't remember saying or even implying Liberals don't care for their children or mates. Quote please.
Considering all these spammed replies you did are "moot", I doubt it helped anyone reading them. “
Moot.
Looks like it's try to make a point in hysterics of how not to debate. Nothing but spammed replies as you can see that have nothing to do with anything actually said.
Troll Level 0/10. Sad.
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Spamming is your only source and profession. Noted.
Post by: fish-sticks on March 23, 2019, 06:57:22 am
I don't like discussing politics really because I believe everyone has the right to choose as with their religion or lack of.
I'm a Pagan, female, Trumpet Republican, and I'm fine with that.
You can quote the bible all day long but I highly doubt it's the word of God, more like a man made script.
The past cannot be changed, what happened in ancient times is dust.
What I see going on in this country is division, and that is quite sad.
I was never an Obama fan but I never bashed him. I did my duty by voting for my choice.
I think all this bashing and investigating is a big waste of time and money.
Does anyone else see this?
Yes yes .... I am slightly off topic here but I have opinions, a voice, and a mind that works.
Carry on .....
Post by: purplelady1040 on March 23, 2019, 09:21:03 am
lolI agree on all you have said. I am a Protestant converted Catholic converted back to Protestant. I didn't like some of the things Obama did but then I have been that way with every President but I think Trump is tearing our country apart.
I don't like discussing politics really because I believe everyone has the right to choose as with their religion or lack of.
I'm a Pagan, female, Trumpet Republican, and I'm fine with that.
You can quote the bible all day long but I highly doubt it's the word of God, more like a man made script.
The past cannot be changed, what happened in ancient times is dust.
What I see going on in this country is division, and that is quite sad.
I was never an Obama fan but I never bashed him. I did my duty by voting for my choice.
I think all this bashing and investigating is a big waste of time and money.
Does anyone else see this?
Yes yes .... I am slightly off topic here but I have opinions, a voice, and a mind that works.
Carry on .....
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 23, 2019, 02:13:40 pm
lolGlad you liked it. lol
I don't like discussing politics really because I believe everyone has the right to choose as with their religion or lack of.
I'm a Pagan, female, Trumpet Republican, and I'm fine with that.
You can quote the bible all day long but I highly doubt it's the word of God, more like a man made script.
The past cannot be changed, what happened in ancient times is dust.
What I see going on in this country is division, and that is quite sad.
I was never an Obama fan but I never bashed him. I did my duty by voting for my choice.
I think all this bashing and investigating is a big waste of time and money.
Does anyone else see this?
Yes yes .... I am slightly off topic here but I have opinions, a voice, and a mind that works.
Carry on .....
I’m fine with whatever suits other’s, so as long as they are not trying to shove their religious bull down everyone’s throats. And that’s where I draw the line.
And most political leaders are professional narcissistic liars. And we have one of those in our White House as we speak. However, if some people prefer to bury their heads in the sand when they should have a look at the evidence is of great importance to all of us that live in this nation.
We deserve better than this and need to change our political landscape that is only improving the wealth of the upperclassmen, or “good old boy network” of traitors instead of implementing good changes for all that live therein.
The past cannot be changed, but we can currently learn from our past to change our future for the better of all on this planet Earth we call home.
I am an Atheist who sees the rights of others as well as my own. However, I believe we have a far right political issue that seems to love dictators, theft or our treasury that’s been converted into corporate welfare, a huge military and industrial complex that needs to be ousted because this too is sending us into bankruptcy, as many can attest that it is a walloping 80% of our budget notwithstanding the perks and professional jobs given to the crooks in our government while “in service to we the people”, yet are only serving themselves at our expense.
And we need to put all of this to and end by having representation for all people. This is not just a nation of the privileged when we all live here.
So I strongly disagree with your belief because we need to investigate all of them to include but not limited to one Donald J. Trumpet.
Have a happy day and peace be with you 🙂
Post by: fish-sticks on March 23, 2019, 08:48:22 pm
Glad you liked it. lolA happy day I always have, so thanks for that.
I’m fine with whatever suits other’s, so as long as they are not trying to shove their religious bull down everyone’s throats. And that’s where I draw the line.
And most political leaders are professional narcissistic liars. And we have one of those in our White House as we speak. However, if some people prefer to bury their heads in the sand when they should have a look at the evidence is of great importance to all of us that live in this nation.
We deserve better than this and need to change our political landscape that is only improving the wealth of the upperclassmen, or “good old boy network” of traitors instead of implementing good changes for all that live therein.
The past cannot be changed, but we can currently learn from our past to change our future for the better of all on this planet Earth we call home.
I am an Atheist who sees the rights of others as well as my own. However, I believe we have a far right political issue that seems to love dictators, theft or our treasury that’s been converted into corporate welfare, a huge military and industrial complex that needs to be ousted because this too is sending us into bankruptcy, as many can attest that it is a walloping 80% of our budget notwithstanding the perks and professional jobs given to the crooks in our government while “in service to we the people”, yet are only serving themselves at our expense.
And we need to put all of this to and end by having representation for all people. This is not just a nation of the privileged when we all live here.
So I strongly disagree with your belief because we need to investigate all of them to include but not limited to one Donald J. Trumpet.
Have a happy day and peace be with you 🙂
I like Trump as he has done much that he said he would. My pay check is bigger, my tax return was more than I expected ... I'm a middle class person as it is.
In my humble opinion, all politicians are a pack of woo-ha .... they all play a game.
We will continue to see.
Trump to me also, has a big mouth and much to say, lol. But I do like how he handles the press which again in my opinion, are causing a lot of problems with their bullshit.
I am a simple person, so call me ignorant or whatever.
You have a wonderful evening as well. I am content, and just do my thing which is make bread in a bakery.
I make good money and live a good simple life. I don't throw myself into complicated conversations because we all have opinions that differ.
Post by: fish-sticks on March 23, 2019, 08:50:39 pm
I may be a Pagan but 2 of my sons follow Christian beliefs, while my eldest is complicated like me, hahaha!
Post by: cowface on March 23, 2019, 09:01:46 pm
Oh, and I never shove my beliefs on others.I am just a curious george... and I could google this question, but I'd be interested to get answers from real people. What is the difference between Agnostic, Athiest, Pegan? Thanks in advance.
I may be a Pagan but 2 of my sons follow Christian beliefs, while my eldest is complicated like me, hahaha!
Post by: fish-sticks on March 23, 2019, 09:12:28 pm
I am just a curious george... and I could google this question, but I'd be interested to get answers from real people. What is the difference between Agnostic, Athiest, Pegan? Thanks in advance.I believe there is a god, I believe in myself.
I walk my own path and don't really believe in a chosen destiny.
We all make choices that decided our life.
Do not kill, do not rape, do not steal, do not be jealous.
All people know in their hearts what is right or wrong and that is the path I follow.
I try to be the best person I can, but I do stumble from time to to time .... we all do!
Off to bed for this old gal, have a good night.
Post by: fish-sticks on March 23, 2019, 09:13:51 pm
Post by: cowface on March 23, 2019, 09:25:22 pm
I believe there is a god, I believe in myself.Off to bed with thee friend... I know your baker hours. I don't think you describe Pagan in my humble opinion. We shall have to delve further when your hours suit you with work. Have a great night sleep and day with the ovens.
I walk my own path and don't really believe in a chosen destiny.
We all make choices that decided our life.
Do not kill, do not ****, do not steal, do not be jealous.
All people know in their hearts what is right or wrong and that is the path I follow.
I try to be the best person I can, but I do stumble from time to to time .... we all do!
Off to bed for this old gal, have a good night.
Post by: cowface on March 23, 2019, 09:28:11 pm
Off to bed with thee friend... I know your baker hours. I don't think you describe Pagan in my humble opinion. We shall have to delve further when your hours suit you with work. Have a great night sleep and day with the ovens.To clarify... I am not an authority nor am I Pegan to even know. I don't declare what I am... although I am of a belief system and have spent many years and much time studying for the truth. Big topic I should probably not engage in here. Maybe shouldn't go there.
Post by: Jackie on March 23, 2019, 10:28:26 pm
Post by: cowface on March 23, 2019, 10:32:11 pm
Ya know, sex and politics do mix.Interesting
Post by: Jackie on March 23, 2019, 10:58:25 pm
Interesting
It seems that in the news something is printed about some politician doing the dirty with someone.
Post by: cowface on March 23, 2019, 11:04:04 pm
It seems that in the news something is printed about some politician doing the dirty with someone.I know... what a bummer.
Post by: Jackie on March 24, 2019, 01:37:57 am
I know... what a bummer.
It sells news that's for sure. Everybody wants to know whos doing who, right?
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 24, 2019, 02:06:05 am
A happy day I always have, so thanks for that.You’re welcome.
I like Trump as he has done much that he said he would. My pay check is bigger, my tax return was more than I expected ... I'm a middle class person as it is.
In my humble opinion, all politicians are a pack of woo-ha .... they all play a game.
We will continue to see.
Trump to me also, has a big mouth and much to say, lol. But I do like how he handles the press which again in my opinion, are causing a lot of problems with their bullshat.
I am a simple person, so call me ignorant or whatever.
You have a wonderful evening as well. I am content, and just do my thing which is make bread in a bakery.
I make good money and live a good simple life. I don't throw myself into complicated conversations because we all have opinions that differ.
Not everyone’s paycheck is bigger, I know many who wound up shorter than the year before. And what did Trump keep his promises on? Oh yes. I believe he was asking his Daddy Putin to get dirt on Hillary. So as for he being so “innocent” and all, well, let’s just say your blindness is bliss. lol
Yes we will continue to see his obvious blatant lies and obfuscations while you just cover your eyes or look the other way.
Sad reality, but nevertheless it’s the truth.
And do you think that Trump is not any kind of political scam artist? If not, why not? lol
No. I can tell you’ve been itching just to yank a chain where only your chine lies.
Would you like to see Trumps lies and other amusements for yourself?
Didn’t think so.
Keep covering you eyes and follow like a good little puppy. I’m sure if you were with him he’d put the blame squarely on you to make himself look clean.
I can accommodate if you wish for the proof of his bullshat. lol
So as for not “throwing yourself into complicated issues” and all, I’d say you thrive on it as much as we do.
I too live a simple life and bother no one, I make a good salary and earn every penny. However, when it comes to the political atmosphere, I know much more than the lines of republican jargon you’re playing here. lol
So yes, opinions very. However, if you want the truth to even your Trumpet then I would suggest that you stick the the facts and you’ll do better than the party lies. As an informed opinion will take you much further than the lines the Trumpet and both conservative parties will ever give.
Morning to ya! 🙂
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 24, 2019, 02:07:50 am
Oh, and I never shove my beliefs on others.This is why I gave you that reply because it’s obvious you like confusing the issues and confrontations.
I may be a Pagan but 2 of my sons follow Christian beliefs, while my eldest is complicated like me, hahaha!
Hahahaha! lol
Post by: fish-sticks on March 24, 2019, 06:08:51 am
This is why I gave you that reply because it’s obvious you like confusing the issues and confrontations.As long as debates stay friendly.
Hahahaha! lol
Have a good day :)
Post by: fish-sticks on March 24, 2019, 06:18:48 am
You’re welcome.As I stated, I think all politicians lie and there is the whole problem in a nutshell.
Not everyone’s paycheck is bigger, I know many who wound up shorter than the year before. And what did Trump keep his promises on? Oh yes. I believe he was asking his Daddy Putin to get dirt on Hillary. So as for he being so “innocent” and all, well, let’s just say your blindness is bliss. lol
Yes we will continue to see his obvious blatant lies and obfuscations while you just cover your eyes or look the other way.
Sad reality, but nevertheless it’s the truth.
And do you think that Trump is not any kind of political scam artist? If not, why not? lol
No. I can tell you’ve been itching just to yank a chain where only your chine lies.
Would you like to see Trumps lies and other amusements for yourself?
Didn’t think so.
Keep covering you eyes and follow like a good little puppy. I’m sure if you were with him he’d put the blame squarely on you to make himself look clean.
I can accommodate if you wish for the proof of his bullshat. lol
So as for not “throwing yourself into complicated issues” and all, I’d say you thrive on it as much as we do.
I too live a simple life and bother no one, I make a good salary and earn every penny. However, when it comes to the political atmosphere, I know much more than the lines of republican jargon you’re playing here. lol
So yes, opinions very. However, if you want the truth to even your Trumpet then I would suggest that you stick the the facts and you’ll do better than the party lies. As an informed opinion will take you much further than the lines the Trumpet and both conservative parties will ever give.
Morning to ya! 🙂
I can honestly state that I'm glad I voted for Trump as the other choice was a bigger liar. Would you really want Hillary in office?
Sometimes it the choice between 2 evils.
If you dig deep enough, you can always find dirt on any President we've elected.
So instead of slinging insults, I will take my puppy on a blind walk.
Try not to get so worked up over my post, it's just my humble opinion.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 24, 2019, 06:28:24 am
As long as debates stay friendly.They will as long as no one gets out of line friend.
Have a good day :)
And I suspect that will not be me. 😝
You too. 🙂
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 24, 2019, 06:56:27 am
As I stated, I think all politicians lie and there is the whole problem in a nutshell.So why did you vote for another lying politician? That’s what Trump dose all the time. Here, let me show you so you can have a better perspective on this particular issue. 🙂
I can honestly state that I'm glad I voted for Trump as the other choice was a bigger liar. Would you really want Hillary in office?
Sometimes it the choice between 2 evils.
If you dig deep enough, you can always find dirt on any President we've elected.
So instead of slinging insults, I will take my puppy on a blind walk.
Try not to get so worked up over my post, it's just my humble opinion.
https://youtu.be/qQruDaf7bKs
https://youtu.be/iDP3N72xuzo
https://youtu.be/NGnhI_luF1A
https://youtu.be/Wf-HxgdboOU
https://youtu.be/9P1IVQJdVvE
https://youtu.be/S8DQ2kseTWw
https://youtu.be/YLsbE3U4738
https://youtu.be/wAJUZRZBdlM
https://youtu.be/grYIZHFZMxM
Please. The guy is an idiot. 😂
You really should find better news sources than Faux ‘cause, and put blunt, he’s a snake oil salesmen.
And as far as Hillary goes, no. I would not want her in any more than I want your precious Trumpet. But not even she lies as much as Trumpet.
She even won the popular vote that republicans gave to Trumpet. 😆
And we as a nation should be cleaning house so there are no choices of those two evils.
Dirt is always to be found; however, how much dirt we have here with this sitting, and I mean sitting President is by far more than any we’ve had in the past.
Post by: fish-sticks on March 24, 2019, 07:04:37 am
Off to bed with thee friend... I know your baker hours. I don't think you describe Pagan in my humble opinion. We shall have to delve further when your hours suit you with work. Have a great night sleep and day with the ovens.Oh ... sorry.
Guess I should say I don't follow organized religion
Post by: fish-sticks on March 24, 2019, 07:18:52 am
To me what is idiotic is the constant attacks and accusation.
Sorry, I didn't watch all those video's.
For any you put up, I could find some too .... time consuming and I am certainly not going to change your mind. Actually not trying too.
If everyone would step back and take a breath. Let the man do the job at hand instead of digging up past discrepancy, which any past President certainly has.
Politics is a cess pool.
We the people ought to call for a clean sweep and kick out the career politicians.
I try to remember the great words "together we stand, divided we fall" ..... folks should think about that as nothing is getting done with the problems our country has.
Off to work for me.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 24, 2019, 07:28:21 am
Oh I don't think he's an idiot.I’ll give a reply later. But what I will say before I leave is that you obviously like drinking the kool-aid.
To me what is idiotic is the constant attacks and accusation.
Sorry, I didn't watch all those video's.
For any you put up, I could find some too .... time consuming and I am certainly not going to change your mind. Actually not trying too.
If everyone would step back and take a breath. Let the man do the job at hand instead of digging up past discrepancy, which any past President certainly has.
Politics is a cess pool.
We the people ought to call for a clean sweep and kick out the career politicians.
I try to remember the great words "together we stand, divided we fall" ..... folks should think about that as nothing is getting done with the problems our country has.
Off to work for me.
Until we meet again.
Post by: fish-sticks on March 24, 2019, 05:27:29 pm
I’ll give a reply later. But what I will say before I leave is that you obviously like drinking the kool-aid.I don't think anything in my post even remotely suggested a reason for that remark.
Until we meet again.
But I did just crack open a beer (_)}
Post by: cowface on March 26, 2019, 06:32:17 pm
I don't think anything in my post even remotely suggested a reason for that remark.I think that is a good idea fish-sticks... most world issues could be solved quietly over a beer together. Pop-a-top!
But I did just crack open a beer (_)}
Post by: fish-sticks on March 27, 2019, 03:28:44 pm
I think that is a good idea fish-sticks... most world issues could be solved quietly over a beer together. Pop-a-top!Damn skippy .... on #2 now, lol
Post by: The General on March 27, 2019, 04:36:54 pm
the special olympics? It saves us 18 million dollars and I don't have to watch then
tards running and jumping around.How much can we save by not pinning medals
on fake war heros, think about it!
Post by: fish-sticks on March 27, 2019, 05:05:03 pm
What you all think about President Trump cutting the little retard kids money forSorry, I don't think about haters.
the special olympics? It saves us 18 million dollars and I don't have to watch then
tards running and jumping around.How much can we save by not pinning medals
on fake war heros, think about it!
You have a fabulous evening
Post by: joanna50 on March 27, 2019, 05:43:02 pm
Oh I don't think he's an idiot.The thing is he doesn't even do the job, all he does is tweet and golf and piss off our allies. Im sorry but as a woman I wonder why you would even vote for him, seriously
To me what is idiotic is the constant attacks and accusation.
Sorry, I didn't watch all those video's.
For any you put up, I could find some too .... time consuming and I am certainly not going to change your mind. Actually not trying too.
If everyone would step back and take a breath. Let the man do the job at hand instead of digging up past discrepancy, which any past President certainly has.
Politics is a cess pool.
We the people ought to call for a clean sweep and kick out the career politicians.
I try to remember the great words "together we stand, divided we fall" ..... folks should think about that as nothing is getting done with the problems our country has.
Off to work for me.
Post by: joanna50 on March 27, 2019, 05:45:44 pm
What you all think about President Trump cutting the little retard kids money forWLU is that you?, who is the fake war hero? and nobody is forcing you to watch the special Olympics, you have choices in America, for now anyway
the special olympics? It saves us 18 million dollars and I don't have to watch then
tards running and jumping around.How much can we save by not pinning medals
on fake war heros, think about it!
Post by: Weepy on March 27, 2019, 08:36:13 pm
WLU is that you?, who is the fake war hero? and nobody is forcing you to watch the special Olympics, you have choices in America, for now anyway
That anon guy is a clown stirring zhit and is probably his true feelings, I dunno if that is that fool or not but the admin on here can find out if that is the case or if it is another poster who refuses to write that under his actual account.. On Topix it is possible to get away with multiple identities, this is a private board with less users. This individual may not last here...
Post by: joanna50 on March 28, 2019, 05:06:10 am
Well im all for freedom of speech but I think that also comes with responsibilities name it and claim it only adult thing to do, don't be a coward with your words
That anon guy is a clown stirring zhit and is probably his true feelings, I dunno if that is that fool or not but the admin on here can find out if that is the case or if it is another poster who refuses to write that under his actual account.. On Topix it is possible to get away with multiple identities, this is a private board with less users. This individual may not last here...
Post by: cowface on March 28, 2019, 05:19:35 am
Well im all for freedom of speech but I think that also comes with responsibilities name it and claim it only adult thing to do, don't be a coward with your wordsI am up with that JoJo
Post by: cowface on March 28, 2019, 05:21:37 am
I am up with that JoJoCan I still call you JoJo.. I used to back on topix... it was my pet name for you
Post by: Weepy on March 28, 2019, 08:47:15 am
Well im all for freedom of speech but I think that also comes with responsibilities name it and claim it only adult thing to do, don't be a coward with your words
I agree with that...
Post by: Realtime on March 28, 2019, 09:44:59 am
Adding that I still can't reply to individual posts and must log out and then sign back in to make a post.
Post by: fish-sticks on March 28, 2019, 09:46:53 am
The thing is he doesn't even do the job, all he does is tweet and golf and **** off our allies. Im sorry but as a woman I wonder why you would even vote for him, seriouslyHockey pucks ..... never seen Obama swing at a ball, lol.
He does work and he puts up with haters constantly, almost every President does.
Apparently he works very hard or we wouldn't hear about everything wrong he does on CNN .... phffft!
Being the President has to be the hardest most ungrateful job in the world.
His famous quote is to make America great again, what on earth is wrong with that? Why are people so opposed to that statement, because he said it? That's silly!
What is a waste of time and money, our money, is 2 year investigation that came up with squat.
Just think where else money could be spent instead on frivolous carp that the politicians keep dragging up.
I remember Obama going through the same, they wanted to see his tax returns, questioned his being American or not. All this that these people bring up is no better than a bait and switch game ..... hogwash.
Career politicians are a joke and Trump doesn't play by their rules. And that is exactly why I like him.
He is not the problem.
People ought to rethink who they re-elect in positions of power.
That is just my opinion. I don't follow the crowd and I don't put much stock in the media anymore. Movie stars involving themselves, good grief. How many people said Trump would never be elected? I imagine there are a lot of people like me who wanted something different this go around. He may lack political tact, and have a big mouth but I like his bluntness.
I like that he tweets. He's up front.
You don't have to like him, but he was voted in. Imagine if the slander would stop. maybe, just maybe, he could get a lot more done.
Again, I'm not really big on politic talk. These are just my thoughts. I don't put anything about politics on my FB simply because I have Dems and Libs as friends. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and I don't step on those.
Post by: purplelady1040 on March 28, 2019, 10:36:23 am
What you all think about President Trump cutting the little retard kids money forThey aren't retards and your opinion of special needs people shows how.ignorant you really are. They are a human being like any others.
the special olympics? It saves us 18 million dollars and I don't have to watch then
tards running and jumping around.How much can we save by not pinning medals
on fake war heros, think about it!
Post by: The General on March 28, 2019, 10:46:56 am
Well im all for freedom of speech but I think that also comes with responsibilities name it and claim it only adult thing to do, don't be a coward with your wordsAnon-y-mous is my user name just like joanna50 is yours, so no hiding.
Post by: The General on March 28, 2019, 10:52:01 am
They aren't retards and your opinion of special needs people shows how.ignorant you really are. They are a human being like any others.There you go, your post would be spot on if directed at Trump! My post was an attempt at sarcasm
and in Trump speak. What I posted is exactly how the president of the United States feels.
Post by: The General on March 28, 2019, 11:12:42 am
Sorry, I don't think about haters.I was more curious what you think about Trump cutting off funding for the special Olympics?
You have a fabulous evening
Post by: The General on March 28, 2019, 11:28:26 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNXgjnBpxGI
Post by: Weepy on March 28, 2019, 11:38:58 am
It was wrong when I made fun of people with disabilities but ok for Trump?l
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNXgjnBpxGI
I do not know you, no one on here said it was acceptable by Trump. Most of them those defending him are idiots, that I do know.
Post by: fish-sticks on March 28, 2019, 11:50:53 am
I'm just not an over emotional rabid Trump hater.
Remember, opinions are like arsholes, everyone has one.
Post by: fish-sticks on March 28, 2019, 12:04:38 pm
I was more curious what you think about Trump cutting off funding for the special Olympics?Because it's not relevant. They don't need the funding.
The federal government gives about 11 million (10%) and they raise plenty through donations, about 111 million on their own.
The only reason it's an "outrage" is because Trump is doing it, lol ..... it has been voted down before because it's been put up by past politicians. LOL! This isn't new!
What? They might have to make some administrative cuts?
Big whoop.
Post by: joanna50 on March 28, 2019, 12:12:39 pm
Anon-y-mous is my user name just like joanna50 is yours, so no hiding.Alrighty then, well welcome and have a good day
Post by: joanna50 on March 28, 2019, 12:13:52 pm
WOW .... I'm not an idiot.No you seem pretty intelligent that's why I wonder why you would vote for a man like Trump
I'm just not an over emotional rabid Trump hater.
Remember, opinions are like arsholes, everyone has one.
Post by: fish-sticks on March 28, 2019, 12:44:30 pm
No you seem pretty intelligent that's why I wonder why you would vote for a man like TrumpI did answer that in another post.
But if people would dig deeper on the ideas and not who is proposing them, have an unbiased look at the solutions he puts out for problems.
Look .... Obamacare was almost a good idea, but look what happened. Some peoples insurance became outrageously high. And because they couldn't afford it, they were penalized on their tax refunds ..... JUST WOW!
I just bring that as an example.
Trump has goals and ideas that I agree with ..... it's that simple
Post by: Texas Pete on March 28, 2019, 12:53:21 pm
Trump said he wouldn’t cut Medicaid, Social Security, and Medicare. His 2020 budget cuts all 3.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/12/18260271/trump-medicaid-social-security-medicare-budget-cuts
Step one, give the rich a huge tax break, step two take from the old, sick and poor to pay for it.
Post by: fish-sticks on March 28, 2019, 01:15:05 pm
Yes Trump does have goals and ideas and I sure don't agree with them.1st off, he didn't rob the money from SS, previous government did that and now it's broke, yes?
Trump said he wouldn’t cut Medicaid, Social Security, and Medicare. His 2020 budget cuts all 3.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/12/18260271/trump-medicaid-social-security-medicare-budget-cuts
Step one, give the rich a huge tax break, step two take from the old, sick and poor to pay for it.
It's going to be a hard fix and because he didn't address it in his state of the union speech, everyone concludes the worst. The media ran with it, of course.
Now think about this .... his bloody wall. How about the money we save from housing and medical for illegals, go to give back to SS and medicare?
SS as it stands right now will not be able to pay all benefit in 2032. There is no quick fix here.
Trumps idea? Faster economic growth.
Copy/paste
Mnuchin says tax cuts, fewer regulations, and better trade deals will boost growth and thus enough revenues to keep the programs going as they are—and avoiding the need for painful cuts or tax hikes.
None of that has panned out yet. The White House is now fighting a four-front trade war with America’s biggest trading partners—Canada, Mexico, China and the European Union—but so far, no new trade deals. As for economic growth, Trump’s own Commerce Department says the U.S. grew at a 2.2% annual pace in the first quarter of 2018, down from 2.9% in the fourth quarter of 2017.
There is a whole article about it if you choose to dig deeper
Post by: Texas Pete on March 28, 2019, 01:31:39 pm
wouldn't change it.
Post by: fish-sticks on March 28, 2019, 02:35:27 pm
My opinion of Trump was made decades ago and all the reading in the worldI certainly understand that, lol.
wouldn't change it.
Plus politics makes my hair hurt and my teeth itch
Post by: fish-sticks on March 28, 2019, 05:14:55 pm
We all have an opinion and we all follow a certain thing .... ya know?
So no worries folks, I'm good, you're good .... it's what make America great right?
Post by: Window Lickers Union on March 28, 2019, 05:40:43 pm
WLU is that you?, who is the fake war hero? and nobody is forcing you to watch the special Olympics, you have choices in America, for now anyway
Really...
Why would you ever think that was me?
What was said wasn't even good bait to begin with much less a compelling topic to even discuss.
Post by: joanna50 on March 28, 2019, 10:35:40 pm
Really...Havent heard from you in awhile, glad you aint dead
Why would you ever think that was me?
What was said wasn't even good bait to begin with much less a compelling topic to even discuss.
Post by: Weepy on March 28, 2019, 11:12:49 pm
My opinion of Trump was made decades ago and all the reading in the world
wouldn't change it.
I once liked the guy until about a decade ago...
Post by: cowface on March 28, 2019, 11:14:51 pm
Post by: Weepy on March 28, 2019, 11:17:03 pm
Just giving my $0.02...
Post by: joanna50 on March 29, 2019, 05:12:41 am
I never once thought he masterminded this Russian deal because I always felt Trump never wanted to be president and if he really did, his goal was to destroy the GOP, I used to watch him on Larry King when he was on CNN and never had a nice thing to say about GWB nor any Republican, until Obama came into the picture and we know why he hates him even if there are denials among many about. Such..Makes sense, but I do think he is a shady business man and a horrible president, he hates Obama because he is the better man
Just giving my $0.02...
Post by: Icno on March 29, 2019, 10:35:29 am
"NATIONAL VIETNAM VETERANS DAY"
"Welcome home Vietnam Veterans!
Two years ago, President Trump signed the Vietnam War Veterans Recognition Act into law. This Act designates every March 29 as National Vietnam War Veterans Day. It was March 29, 1973, when the last of our combat troops left Vietnam. It was on that day that the last American prisoners of war held in North Vietnam came home.
Honor Flight Bluegrass honors the nine million American men and women who served on active duty from November 1, 1955, to May 7, 1975. We remember the sacrifices of more than 58,000 whose names are etched into the Vietnam Memorial. God Bless those who have served....and, please know we appreciate you."
That ^^^^ is the only thing that Mr. Trump; holding office as President, has done thus far, for which I am appreciative and grateful. My father was a Vietnam Veteran. He served proudly and obediently. He loved his country. He taught us to love our country. He instilled in us the knowledge that this was a great country then, it's a great country now, and at no time has it ever ceased to be a great country. Unfortunately, Mr. Trump will not consider my father a war hero under his premise of what constitutes a war hero. However, in my eyes and in my heart, my father was a hero just as John McCain was a hero and no coward with "bad feet" and a big mouth is going to convince me otherwise.
God Bless America!
Post by: Texas Pete on March 29, 2019, 10:37:44 am
Makes sense, but I do think he is a shady business man and a horrible president, he hates Obama because he is the better manTwo words stand out in your post and says everything about Trump, "He hates."
Post by: Window Lickers Union on March 29, 2019, 11:58:39 am
Havent heard from you in awhile, glad you aint dead
Spring time. Busy making sure the equipment is in proper working order for the warm weather workload.
Two words stand out in your post and says everything about Trump, "He hates."
People in here constantly posting "hate" for Trump, are now summing Trump up with two words; he hates.
Legit logic.
Makes sense, but I do think he is a shady business man and a horrible president, he hates Obama because he is the better man
As someone who has professed to being a Democrat most of his life, does he really 'hate' Obama or is Trump smart enough to know he had a good chance of winning the Presidency by running on the GOP's 'hate' for Obama? There is a bit of a difference in the two. Personally, I don't think Trump hates Obama one Iota.
Is he a plant to destroy the GOP as Weepy pointed out?
Possible -Yes.
Probable - I'd never bet against it ever happening.
True or not, between Trump's NPD of wanting to be seen as a "winner" with all the attention that comes along with it and the Media's constant demonization. I think it has had the unintended consequences of making Trump to be far more popular and far more bold in his policies than he otherwise could of been. Good possibility Trump himself has been caught up in his own rhetoric while the Democrats have constantly overplayed their hand, exasperating the situation by galvanizing the right while polarizing the political landscape even further.
Post by: joanna50 on March 29, 2019, 05:47:02 pm
Spring time. Busy making sure the equipment is in proper working order for the warm weather workload.Interesting points, don't work to hard, All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy
People in here constantly posting "hate" for Trump, are now summing Trump up with two words; he hates.
Legit logic.
As someone who has professed to being a Democrat most of his life, does he really 'hate' Obama or is Trump smart enough to know he had a good chance of winning the Presidency by running on the GOP's 'hate' for Obama? There is a bit of a difference in the two. Personally, I don't think Trump hates Obama one Iota.
Is he a plant to destroy the GOP as Weepy pointed out?
Possible -Yes.
Probable - I'd never bet against it ever happening.
True or not, between Trump's NPD of wanting to be seen as a "winner" with all the attention that comes along with it and the Media's constant demonization. I think it has had the unintended consequences of making Trump to be far more popular and far more bold in his policies than he otherwise could of been. Good possibility Trump himself has been caught up in his own rhetoric while the Democrats have constantly overplayed their hand, exasperating the situation by galvanizing the right while polarizing the political landscape even further.
Post by: Jackie on March 30, 2019, 02:31:25 am
Interesting points, don't work to hard, All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy
www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIqq9GusbSQ
lol
Post by: Jackie on March 30, 2019, 02:34:00 am
All that commotion for this!
LOL
Post by: joanna50 on March 30, 2019, 09:38:22 am
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lQ_MjU4QHwMakes a person not want to work real hard
All that commotion for this!
LOL
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 31, 2019, 11:51:52 am
I don't think anything in my post even remotely suggested a reason for that remark.It’s what I’m seeing in every one of your replies. Republican talking points that have no value for consideration. Please do consider better sources than that of Faux news?
But I did just crack open a beer (_)}
They Spoon utter rubbish for the President and his republican clan.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on March 31, 2019, 11:53:29 am
Two words stand out in your post and says everything about Trump, "He hates."I concur.
Post by: joanna50 on March 31, 2019, 05:05:41 pm
Spring time. Busy making sure the equipment is in proper working order for the warm weather workload.He also cheats at golf as well as being a habitual liar, yeah great morals this guy has huh
People in here constantly posting "hate" for Trump, are now summing Trump up with two words; he hates.
Legit logic.
As someone who has professed to being a Democrat most of his life, does he really 'hate' Obama or is Trump smart enough to know he had a good chance of winning the Presidency by running on the GOP's 'hate' for Obama? There is a bit of a difference in the two. Personally, I don't think Trump hates Obama one Iota.
Is he a plant to destroy the GOP as Weepy pointed out?
Possible -Yes.
Probable - I'd never bet against it ever happening.
True or not, between Trump's NPD of wanting to be seen as a "winner" with all the attention that comes along with it and the Media's constant demonization. I think it has had the unintended consequences of making Trump to be far more popular and far more bold in his policies than he otherwise could of been. Good possibility Trump himself has been caught up in his own rhetoric while the Democrats have constantly overplayed their hand, exasperating the situation by galvanizing the right while polarizing the political landscape even further.
Post by: fish-sticks on March 31, 2019, 11:23:11 pm
It’s what I’m seeing in every one of your replies. Republican talking points that have no value for consideration. Please do consider better sources than that of Faux news?Problem is I am making point and your post are just blah.
They Spoon utter rubbish for the President and his republican clan.
Sorry dude, I'm not trying to change your mind and you threw the insults, lol
Post by: fish-sticks on March 31, 2019, 11:24:02 pm
He also cheats at golf as well as being a habitual liar, yeah great morals this guy has huhWOW and you are the score keeper, what a great job!
Post by: fish-sticks on March 31, 2019, 11:28:15 pm
We all have the right to chose, that is what I'm saying.
Libs and Dems don't even give the guy a chance .... just tying up money with stupid investigation.
Now do you what an investigation on the investigators, who investigated the all the BS that was investigated FOR 2 BLOODY years.
BAH HAHAHAHAHA!
Post by: Der Fuehrer on April 01, 2019, 02:08:12 am
Now do you what an investigation on the investigators, who investigated the all the BS that was investigated FOR 2 BLOODY years.
BAH HAHAHAHAHA!
You should add some more insane laughter at the end. It might make this more coherent.
Post by: joanna50 on April 01, 2019, 09:21:06 am
WOW and you are the score keeper, what a great job!Just kinda picky about who I back, cheaters and cowards seem to be your forte
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 01, 2019, 09:42:07 am
Problem is I am making point and your post are just blah.Were you really? I didn’t even notice where exactly you did from all of that Faux gibberish. And where were those insults again?
Sorry dude, I'm not trying to change your mind and you threw the insults, lol
You must really believe, eh?
Guess it has to do with all those years of drinking the Kool-aid. 😂
Post by: fish-sticks on April 01, 2019, 06:43:39 pm
It’s what I’m seeing in every one of your replies. Republican talking points that have no value for consideration. Please do consider better sources than that of Faux news?As opposed to your CNN carp? They have been busted too many times. They take their opinion and run with it, discredit themselves.
They Spoon utter rubbish for the President and his republican clan.
I dig for my research, not just the left opinion.
Sheeesh dude/chick, get a grip!
(not an insult, I don't know if you are male or female)
Post by: fish-sticks on April 01, 2019, 07:28:45 pm
Just kinda picky about who I back, cheaters and cowards seem to be your forteI've heard Trump called a bully but never a coward.
He has the balls, unlike most of the left.
I don't mean to insult but you guys are not looking at the big picture
Post by: fish-sticks on April 01, 2019, 07:29:31 pm
I find you people funny ... that actually is kinda sad
You should add some more insane laughter at the end. It might make this more coherent.
Post by: Window Lickers Union on April 01, 2019, 09:22:43 pm
As opposed to your CNN carp?
"carp"
CNN News does seem a bit fishy at times. Well played, Fish-Sticks (Pun-Master) even if it might of been an unintentional typo.
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Remember that one socially awkward Jr High student that never fit in because the only thing they could ever talk about was Dungeon's and Dragons in every conversation no matter what? That is Cygnus.
If you scroll back through most of Cygnus "political" posts, you will see some form of "Faux News" uttered Ad Nueseam. If you take notice, Cygnus fails to actually engage in political debate at any depth beyond the usual outdated rhetoric because it's all they can do. He tries and hide this fact by stating "Republican talking points that have no value for consideration." as an excuse as to why he refuses to.
Cygnus just mimics (repeats) over and over what they feel is the "cool" thing to say, so they feel like they fit in and are accepted to the dominant (largest) group in here. To a point this isn't necessarily a harmful thing to do, mimicking is an evolutionary safety mechanism that has been used to show social conformity and that you're a non-threat to the group. These are the rank-and-file "Beta's" of the world that play it safe and are not risk takers.
I wouldn't take his rhetoric personal or even as a serious debater in these matters, it's just his way of fitting in.
I find you people funny ... that actually is kinda sad
If Der speaks to you that means she likes you.
When she says stuff about you like " I like WLU as a poster, but I fundamentally disagree with everything he stands for ", then you know you're on the verge of being sent a Christmas card for the holidays. It's been around 2 years since she said that about me and I haven't gotten mine yet, but I'm sure it's just lost in the mail.
Post by: fish-sticks on April 02, 2019, 06:12:58 am
Just wanting to hurl insults .... which sounds just like the over the top extreme left.
No skin off my nose ...
Post by: Der Fuehrer on April 02, 2019, 07:18:38 am
I find you people funny ... that actually is kinda sad
And I find you extremely naive...nothing funny about that.
Post by: fish-sticks on April 02, 2019, 07:53:58 am
Actually it proves the opposite.
Thanks for the confirmation .....
Post by: Der Fuehrer on April 02, 2019, 07:57:01 am
Name calling always makes you look intelligent .... right?
Actually it proves the opposite.
Thanks for the confirmation .....
I said that I find you naive, just as you said that you find us funny. There was no name calling here. You aren't very good at this, are you?
Post by: Der Fuehrer on April 02, 2019, 08:02:24 am
If Der speaks to you that means she likes you.
When she says stuff about you like " I like WLU as a poster, but I fundamentally disagree with everything he stands for ", then you know you're on the verge of being sent a Christmas card for the holidays. It's been around 2 years since she said that about me and I haven't gotten mine yet, but I'm sure it's just lost in the mail.
We celebrate Festivus in this house. But I did dedicate a song to you.
https://texaspete.smfnew2.com/weird/dedicate-a-song-2-someone/?message=130809
Post by: fish-sticks on April 02, 2019, 08:09:13 am
Doesn't phase me a bit ....
I said that I find you naive, just as you said that you find us funny. There was no name calling here. You aren't very good at this, are you?
I gave facts about Trump's reasoning that some of you chose to ignore and the only reply I get "keep drinking the kool-aid"
Yep .... carry on. This is a dead end thread for me.
Post by: Der Fuehrer on April 02, 2019, 08:12:42 am
Post by: Texas Pete on April 03, 2019, 10:54:18 am
Post by: Weepy on April 03, 2019, 08:08:02 pm
I just saw congress will be off two weeks for Easter, no winning for we the people on either side.
That is not unusual, they usually take August off, been doing that for years meant for reps to visit their districts...
Post by: Jackie on April 04, 2019, 07:59:29 pm
Makes a person not want to work real hard
This is true.
Post by: joanna50 on April 04, 2019, 08:58:02 pm
I've heard Trump called a bully but never a coward.Im not insulted if you choose to keep your head buried in the sand that's your business, I also think its cowardly to use a bone spur defense for a reason to not serve your country then act like he's an American who cares for his country when his actions prove other wise
He has the balls, unlike most of the left.
I don't mean to insult but you guys are not looking at the big picture
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 04, 2019, 11:22:11 pm
As opposed to your CNN carp? They have been busted too many times. They take their opinion and run with it, discredit themselves.I have far more sources than your Faux Pass crap, as too many have been busted there for their obvious lies, so you think I care about your only source of news that has no information, whatsoever?
I dig for my research, not just the left opinion.
Sheeesh dude/chick, get a grip!
(not an insult, I don't know if you are male or female)
Just a right-wing opinion that full of bull, right? Right. 😂
So please look in the mirror and please stop drinking the kool-aid we’ve all heard before.
I know exactly where you get your information - the right who has only opinions.
Get a grip, dud. 😂
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 04, 2019, 11:23:02 pm
Im not insulted if you choose to keep your head buried in the sand that's your business, I also think its cowardly to use a bone spur defense for a reason to not serve your country then act like he's an American who cares for his country when his actions prove other wiseExactly!
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 04, 2019, 11:36:12 pm
"carp"All pure bull.
CNN News does seem a bit fishy at times. Well played, Fish-Sticks (Pun-Master) even if it might of been an unintentional typo.
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Remember that one socially awkward Jr High student that never fit in because the only thing they could ever talk about was Dungeon's and Dragons in every conversation no matter what? That is Cygnus.
If you scroll back through most of Cygnus "political" posts, you will see some form of "Faux News" uttered Ad Nueseam. If you take notice, Cygnus fails to actually engage in political debate at any depth beyond the usual outdated rhetoric because it's all they can do. He tries and hide this fact by stating "Republican talking points that have no value for consideration." as an excuse as to why he refuses to.
Cygnus just mimics (repeats) over and over what they feel is the "cool" thing to say, so they feel like they fit in and are accepted to the dominant (largest) group in here. To a point this isn't necessarily a harmful thing to do, mimicking is an evolutionary safety mechanism that has been used to show social conformity and that you're a non-threat to the group. These are the rank-and-file "Beta's" of the world that play it safe and are not risk takers.
I wouldn't take his rhetoric personal or even as a serious debater in these matters, it's just his way of fitting in.
If Der speaks to you that means she likes you.
When she says stuff about you like " I like WLU as a poster, but I fundamentally disagree with everything he stands for ", then you know you're on the verge of being sent a Christmas card for the holidays. It's been around 2 years since she said that about me and I haven't gotten mine yet, but I'm sure it's just lost in the mail.
So where do you and she get your news sources from?
And all I hear from you is..mimicking the right-wing banter. Show me something other than that, or you’re in the same category as she.
Redundant sources with only talking points to banter. And if this is the best you have to offer, then you have, nothing.
P.s. I provided her with more than one source of news, and if you both missed that, then that’s your baby, not mine.
Chat later.
Post by: purplelady1040 on April 05, 2019, 06:25:50 am
That is not unusual, they usually take August off, been doing that for years meant for reps to visit their districts...They always do in April.and August due to so many states having primaries and then elections.
Post by: Texas Pete on April 05, 2019, 09:27:05 am
I have far more sources than your Faux Pass crap, as too many have been busted there for their obvious lies, so you think I care about your only source of news that has no information, whatsoever?Fox is entertainment news, they aren't held accountable for not telling the truth.
Just a right-wing opinion that full of bull, right? Right. 😂
So please look in the mirror and please stop drinking the kool-aid we’ve all heard before.
I know exactly where you get your information - the right who has only opinions.
Get a grip, dud. 😂
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 05, 2019, 09:59:07 am
Fox is entertainment news, they aren't held accountable for not telling the truth.Exactly! But some here will never get a clue on that and that’s just sad.
Post by: Realtime on April 05, 2019, 01:38:22 pm
Also pretty sure the general chat posts I've put up can't be seen by others.
Am I dreaming this or must one be a IT professional to post here?
Post by: Der Fuehrer on April 05, 2019, 01:45:32 pm
Post by: Der Fuehrer on April 05, 2019, 01:53:02 pm
Still can't reply to individual posts...
Also pretty sure the general chat posts I've put up can't be seen by others.
Am I dreaming this or must one be a IT professional to post here?
I just remembered something that I noticed the other day which might be indicative of your disappearing post problem. I saw that on the main forum page you were the most recent poster on a 'current events' thread. When I went to said thread, your post was not visible. I thought it was a forum glitch on my end (perhaps I hadn't refreshed the page since the last time I viewed it, etc). Maybe Pete knows something about this. I will look into it for you.
Post by: Jackie on April 06, 2019, 09:21:40 am
Fox is entertainment news, they aren't held accountable for not telling the truth.
Lots of flip flopping in the politcal news, I guess its the game.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 06, 2019, 10:21:57 am
Lots of flip flopping in the politcal news, I guess its the game.That’s because we no longer have a free press that the constitution decrees.
But you can still find the truth if you’re willing to look.
Post by: joanna50 on April 06, 2019, 12:48:09 pm
That’s because we no longer have a free press that the constitution decrees.Politics and truth cant and don't exist
But you can still find the truth if you’re willing to look.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 06, 2019, 02:02:52 pm
Politics and truth cant and don't existThat is very true. And we can all witness this throughout our corporate media where Faux itself lies for the republican cause, ad nauseam.
At least we can see truth from other news sources that give truth when some only give half truths and flat out lies.
I must add the fact that you can always witness what any politician says vs what they actually do cause their actions will speak far louder than words.
Post by: DuckieDoll on April 11, 2019, 11:15:39 pm
After all the media hype around Georgia, and their Heartbeat Bill, Ohio went and signed it into law, along with 4 other states following suit. I can't even begin to describe how infuriated I am about this. Most women do not take abortion lightly. It will weight on their minds for a lifetime. It's a heavy subject. I get it. What I don't get is young women, (many low income), scared teenagers, battered women, and so on will not know they are pregnant, before the time is up to terminate a pregnancy which can be 5/6 weeks!
A bunch of suits are making laws, and I'm not seeing a panel of doctors in these Chambers. This law gives no exception to rape, or incest. I also haven't heard if the budget was raised for foster parents, child abuse prevention, sexual education for young teens, or help for women that are delivering severely handicapped kids that will never have a chance to raise from poverty.
I'm all for your beliefs, politics, religion, but everyone wants to make abortion illegal, and say it's wrong, or murder, or demonize a woman for making a life changing mistake, or say it's not God's way, but no one offers to help these teens/women when the baby is here! Does anyone realize that if every church in the USA adopted a child, we would not have any in foster care? That's how many churches we have that preach goodness, and yet we have children that are abused, beaten, not wanted, and term out of the foster system at 18. Now we are now adding to that.
This should of never been a political issue. Abortion should of always been between a female, and her doctor, and this bill just made it harder for doctors in these 5 states to properly give medical care without worrying about losing their license. Medicine does not belong in the category of politics, or religion.
Post by: Weepy on April 12, 2019, 01:19:31 pm
This is the closest place I could find to vent, so I hope Im in the right place LoL! I'm not here to debate, or argue, or even listen to the other side because minds won't change, and people think they're always an expert on this subject.
After all the media hype around Georgia, and their Heartbeat Bill, Ohio went and signed it into law, along with 4 other states following suit. I can't even begin to describe how infuriated I am about this. Most women do not take abortion lightly. It will weight on their minds for a lifetime. It's a heavy subject. I get it. What I don't get is young women, (many low income), scared teenagers, battered women, and so on will not know they are pregnant, before the time is up to terminate a pregnancy which can be 5/6 weeks!
A bunch of suits are making laws, and I'm not seeing a panel of doctors in these Chambers. This law gives no exception to ****, or incest. I also haven't heard if the budget was raised for foster parents, child abuse prevention, sexual education for young teens, or help for women that are delivering severely handicapped kids that will never have a chance to raise from poverty.
I'm all for your beliefs, politics, religion, but everyone wants to make abortion illegal, and say it's wrong, or murder, or demonize a woman for making a life changing mistake, or say it's not God's way, but no one offers to help these teens/women when the baby is here! Does anyone realize that if every church in the USA adopted a child, we would not have any in foster care? That's how many churches we have that preach goodness, and yet we have children that are abused, beaten, not wanted, and term out of the foster system at 18. Now we are now adding to that.
This should of never been a political issue. Abortion should of always been between a female, and her doctor, and this bill just made it harder for doctors in these 5 states to properly give medical care without worrying about losing their license. Medicine does not belong in the category of politics, or religion.
The type of politician that makes such are those that would get an abortion for his mistresss in a heartbeat, what the right wing in this country want is for women to keep having babies and keep them couped up in the house and out of the workplace. It is based on misogyny and misogyny is alive in religion too....
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 12, 2019, 02:42:24 pm
The type of politician that makes such are those that would get an abortion for his mistresss in a heartbeat, what the right wing in this country want is for women to keep having babies and keep them couped up in the house and out of the workplace.One of many reasons why I’m not a conservative. They use their bible as justification for complete ownership of woman and think they have the authority like some monarchs to do with women however they choose.
“It is based on misogyny and misogyny is alive in religion too....”
Shameless pigs is what they are and I have no sympathy for those that follow them.
They get everything they deserve for being asleep at the wheel.
And this will come to haunt those of the mindless.
Post by: Jackie on April 13, 2019, 05:42:18 pm
That’s because we no longer have a free press that the constitution decrees.
But you can still find the truth if you’re willing to look.
This is true, but I think the press does a good job at telling the truth, and there are always people willing to stick their necks out to get the truth out, may they be safe.
Post by: Jackie on April 13, 2019, 05:43:09 pm
This is true, but I think the press does a good job at telling the truth, and there are always people willing to stick their necks out to get the truth out, may they be safe.
I meant to sya the press does a good job at telling the truth 1/2 the time.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 15, 2019, 07:48:58 am
I meant to sya the press does a good job at telling the truth 1/2 the time.This is also very true.
If I recall there are two talk show hosts by the names of Joe and Mika (Married in secret) on MSNBC that are very conservative, yet they chose to make up stories when GWB was in office to push his rhetoric and nonsense until they realized that their bull wasn’t sticking and their ratings tanked. Once this happened then more of the truth came to the surface.
However, that’s when their lies began again.
So am I to always take them at their word?
I think not.
Just one example of many news organizations that are conservatively controlled with mindless bots that will jump any hoop for the sake of cash.
Post by: Weepy on April 15, 2019, 02:32:25 pm
This is also very true.
If I recall there are two talk show hosts by the names of Joe and Mika (Married in secret) on MSNBC that are very conservative, yet they chose to make up stories when GWB was in office to push his rhetoric and nonsense until they realized that their bull wasn’t sticking and their ratings tanked. Once this happened then more of the truth came to the surface.
However, that’s when their lies began again.
So am I to always take them at their word?
I think not.
Just one example of many news organizations that are conservatively controlled with mindless bots that will jump any hoop for the sake of cash.
Joe Scarborough was a GOP congressman from Florida for several years before going to TV, he has had a falling out with Trump during 2016, he promoted Trump during most of the campaign. Mike has been a news woman but her father was Jimmy Carter's National Security Advisor for four years, she is a Democrat...
Post by: Jackie on April 15, 2019, 09:38:03 pm
This is also very true.
If I recall there are two talk show hosts by the names of Joe and Mika (Married in secret) on MSNBC that are very conservative, yet they chose to make up stories when GWB was in office to push his rhetoric and nonsense until they realized that their bull wasn’t sticking and their ratings tanked. Once this happened then more of the truth came to the surface.
However, that’s when their lies began again.
So am I to always take them at their word?
I think not.
I don't pay much attention to shows like MSNBC or CNN. Take it with a grain of salt.
Just one example of many news organizations that are conservatively controlled with mindless bots that will jump any hoop for the sake of cash.
Post by: Realtime on April 18, 2019, 04:10:23 pm
RE Joe and Mika
What a load, the Morning Joe Show was first aired in the spring of 2007, GWB had already turned our nation into a sheet sandwich and Joe had already turned "truths corner." Mika was always left of center.
That they now seem to dislike Donald Trump is because they actually do__with good reason, and they actually know Donald Trump.
Whatever__it doesn't matter who hosts a show, what matters is the topics and guests and Morning Joe rehularly has the best (most informed) guests as well as pundits in all of cable TV (political) programming.
Post by: Realtime on April 22, 2019, 02:20:41 pm
Wassup here? How can my post be the last one for days?
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 22, 2019, 02:46:16 pm
replying to selfI’ll come back for a chat not this and I don’t know why. Hard to say.
Wassup here? How can my post be the last one for days?
Post by: Realtime on April 22, 2019, 03:25:08 pm
Maybe it's me, maybe I lack the tech skills to post here.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 22, 2019, 04:29:01 pm
Just seemed weird that a busy thread would just stop dead after I made a post.No. You’re posting fine. But I think that everyone has already said what they’ve wanted to say and has nothing to do with you or how you post.
Maybe it's me, maybe I lack the tech skills to post here.
Come one come all. So enjoy yourself and post whenever you like. You have every right to say how you feel as much as anyone else here.
Just go for it. 🙂
Post by: Realtime on April 22, 2019, 04:44:53 pm
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 23, 2019, 09:43:33 am
To JackieI watch it on occasion for their take on Donald Trump and I do like some of the guests they bring to the table, but during the Bush administration they were driven more by lies than trying to get to the bottom of things, so I stopped watching.
RE Joe and Mika
What a load, the Morning Joe Show was first aired in the spring of 2007, GWB had already turned our nation into a sheet sandwich and Joe had already turned "truths corner." Mika was always left of center.
That they now seem to dislike Donald Trump is because they actually do__with good reason, and they actually know Donald Trump.
Whatever__it doesn't matter who hosts a show, what matters is the topics and guests and Morning Joe rehularly has the best (most informed) guests as well as pundits in all of cable TV (political) programming.
What would be the point when Joe would talk as if he’s a Christian and swearing every other word.
Then he acted as if the clouds parted and it was some kind of miracle when he pointed out some places stared playing Christian music and, again, he’d be swearing every other word.
These are some of the reasons I distrust them both.
Post by: Realtime on April 25, 2019, 02:55:37 pm
Mika, the daughter of Zbig Brezinski was born into left leaning politics and has never strayed.
Clearly, today they are both disgusted by Donald Trump and they actually know the guy, hung out with him a little prior to his capturing the nations top spot.
I start my day with them, not always agreeing with those two but always learning from their panels and guests. Some start their days with FOX and Friends__pity them.
Post by: Texas Pete on April 25, 2019, 07:48:28 pm
Joe was a Republican US House member from my state (FLA) with one of the highest ratings from the Conservative Union. He took money from the NRA and all other RW causes and voted that way each and every time. If he were still a R US House member he'd still be doing that because that is how politicians roll.I start out with CNC at home and then MSNBC at work, the only time I ever watched Fox was when Jon Stewart or Cobert were making fun of it.
Mika, the daughter of Zbig Brezinski was born into left leaning politics and has never strayed.
Clearly, today they are both disgusted by Donald Trump and they actually know the guy, hung out with him a little prior to his capturing the nations top spot.
I start my day with them, not always agreeing with those two but always learning from their panels and guests. Some start their days with FOX and Friends__pity them.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 26, 2019, 03:41:53 am
Joe was a Republican US House member from my state (FLA) with one of the highest ratings from the Conservative Union. He took money from the NRA and all other RW causes and voted that way each and every time. If he were still a R US House member he'd still be doing that because that is how politicians roll.Agreed. I very much agree.
Mika, the daughter of Zbig Brezinski was born into left leaning politics and has never strayed.
Clearly, today they are both disgusted by Donald Trump and they actually know the guy, hung out with him a little prior to his capturing the nations top spot.
I start my day with them, not always agreeing with those two but always learning from their panels and guests. Some start their days with FOX and Friends__pity them.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 26, 2019, 03:42:48 am
I start out with CNC at home and then MSNBC at work, the only time I ever watched Fox was when Jon Stewart or Cobert were making fun of it.I love those two. They are very intelligent and witty.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 26, 2019, 09:23:58 am
https://apple.news/ASrsNckPHRO2WVKDqJbRgjg
Post by: cowface on April 26, 2019, 09:50:49 pm
What a compulsive liar we have in the Oval Office.We find Trump quite entertaining...chuckle, chuckle. If it were not for Trump the news would have little to talk about... Trump keeps them in business & they capitalize on him.
https://apple.news/ASrsNckPHRO2WVKDqJbRgjg
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 27, 2019, 05:31:57 am
We find Trump quite entertaining...chuckle, chuckle. If it were not for Trump the news would have little to talk about... Trump keeps them in business & they capitalize on him.True. However, when you’re viewing Trump being the idiotic fool that he is by keeping Americas eyes from his cohorts who are doing their best to see he is not removed and telling him what the bigwigs want out of our Captain Bone Spurs. 😂
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 27, 2019, 11:08:13 am
https://youtu.be/39XmffMuds0
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 27, 2019, 11:25:45 am
https://youtu.be/oJYBD_0m6Vo
Post by: cowface on April 28, 2019, 01:14:11 am
True. However, when you’re viewing Trump being the idiotic fool that he is by keeping Americas eyes from his cohorts who are doing their best to see he is not removed and telling him what the bigwigs want out of our Captain Bone Spurs. 😂Have you heard that Melania has a double that sometimes accompanies Trump on outings and has been captured on video and photos? They say it is not always Melania and does not always look like Melania.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 28, 2019, 10:44:44 am
Have you heard that Melania has a double that sometimes accompanies Trump on outings and has been captured on video and photos? They say it is not always Melania and does not always look like Melania.Leaders in the past were no different, so it’s not surprising. Even Adolf Hitler had a double even before the end of WW2, so it’s not surprising at all given they are both disliked more as time marches on.
Post by: Realtime on April 28, 2019, 11:22:15 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO_dgtXnYcA
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 28, 2019, 11:36:51 am
Meet the man who started the Melania body double conspiracy theoryInteresting! I’ve not heard of either but was just stating for the record.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO_dgtXnYcA
Very interesting indeed.
Post by: Weepy on April 28, 2019, 08:30:13 pm
Interesting! I’ve not heard of either but was just stating for the record.
Very interesting indeed.
Melania will divorce him once they leave DC....
Post by: Weepy on April 28, 2019, 10:00:55 pm
I start out with CNC at home and then MSNBC at work, the only time I ever watched Fox was when Jon Stewart or Cobert were making fun of it.
I miss Jon Stewart. He done a killer impression of Mitch McConnell that is unforgettable....
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 29, 2019, 04:12:01 am
Melania will divorce him once they leave DC....I believe this because you can see it in her face how much she really doesn’t like him. I still remember when Melania took her hand away when Donald tried holding it.
No actual love there.
Post by: Texas Pete on April 29, 2019, 12:38:13 pm
I miss Jon Stewart. He done a killer impression of Mitch McConnell that is unforgettable....Trevor is ok but he's no Jon Stewart.
Post by: Weepy on April 29, 2019, 12:44:38 pm
I believe this because you can see it in her face how much she really doesn’t like him. I still remember when Melania took her hand away when Donald tried holding it.
No actual love there.
The Inside Edition tape exposed Trump here...
Post by: Weepy on April 29, 2019, 12:47:56 pm
Trevor is ok but he's no Jon Stewart.
I agree. Jon Stewart was why Tucker Carlson was canned at CNN in 2004, Stewart went on his old Crossfire show and owned Tucker, I watched it live. Centered around the 2004 election between Bush and Kerry, pretty entertaing...Jon Stewart kept his cool...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 29, 2019, 01:20:55 pm
The Inside Edition tape exposed Trump here...Truth to words. I value your take on politics, Weepy, as we are similar and value evidence over soapboxed yammering talking heads of some that make themselves look nonsensical.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on April 29, 2019, 01:25:38 pm
I agree. Jon Stewart was why Tucker Carlson was canned at CNN in 2004, Stewart went on his old Crossfire show and owned Tucker, I watched it live. Centered around the 2004 election between Bush and Kerry, pretty entertaing...Jon Stewart kept his cool...Jon is one of the best fact driven with humor based political men of his time with a powerhouse mind that few can match or master.
So is Colbert. 🙂
Post by: cowface on May 02, 2019, 09:24:01 pm
I believe this because you can see it in her face how much she really doesn’t like him. I still remember when Melania took her hand away when Donald tried holding it.Look at her eyes
No actual love there.
Post by: Sweet Beffy on May 03, 2019, 12:00:54 pm
Look at her eyesIt's hard to see them , she squints all the time ..
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 04, 2019, 07:57:37 pm
https://youtu.be/EiEi-RVcIZM
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 05, 2019, 06:45:18 am
https://youtu.be/b-cZG81-MPQ
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 07, 2019, 12:59:18 am
Socialism for the wealthy and capitalism for the rest.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 07, 2019, 01:08:06 am
Post by: Doobie on May 07, 2019, 11:01:22 am
Trump has already done more than most in their 8-year term of President...
Need To Get Off Of The Trump Derangement Syndrome.....
Check Out Reality....Leave the Fake News, CNN & MSNBC.....
Up-coming investigations will finally show some of the truth and who is/was in bed with whom, Democrats,Republicans, FBI, CIA & Media
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 07, 2019, 12:21:20 pm
Say What you want to say......But obama did NOTHING with N.Korea while in office or anything else with foreign affairs except give Iran $150,000,000,000 and left the missile man still dropping missiles all around the peninsula, and even told Trump he would have to deal with the Korean Problem passed on from the last three Presidents, now at least Trump is trying to accomplish something instead of ignoring the problem exists like the past Presidents, with the acception of Clinton trying to buy out N.Korea with a measly 1 billion....lolAnd it wasn’t Obama that started those wars, as they were started by the Bush administration that you seem all to eager to forget about while trying to put the blame on someone else.
Trump has already done more than most in their 8-year term of President...
Need To Get Off Of The Trump Derangement Syndrome.....
Check Out Reality....Leave the Fake News, CNN & MSNBC.....
Up-coming investigations will finally show some of the truth and who is/was in bed with whom, Democrats,Republicans, FBI, CIA & Media
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 07, 2019, 12:22:49 pm
Post by: Doobie on May 08, 2019, 12:23:27 pm
Say What you want to say......But obama did NOTHING with N.Korea while in office or anything else with foreign affairs except give Iran $150,000,000,000 and left the missile man still dropping missiles all around the peninsula, and even told Trump he would have to deal with the Korean Problem passed on from the last three Presidents, now at least Trump is trying to accomplish something instead of ignoring the problem exists like the past Presidents, with the acception of Clinton trying to buy out N.Korea with a measly 1 billion....lol
Trump has already done more than most in their 8-year term of President...
Need To Get Off Of The Trump Derangement Syndrome.....
Check Out Reality....Leave the Fake News, CNN & MSNBC.....
Up-coming investigations will finally show some of the truth and who is/was in bed with whom, Democrats,Republicans, FBI, CIA & Media
Nothing was said about obama and wars....obama never had GDP above 2.9 and he only made that twice, and obama himself said manufacturing jobs were finished in America, unless you have a Magic Wand Trump..... Guess Trump Has that Magic Wand just look at the growth in our Great Nation.... Just imagine if all the Dems and GOP would simply work together to try an improve things together for our Country, how great could things for everyone become..... seems we always send the same old people to Congress and Senate... but a President can only serve 2 terms, so they continually change and some only get one.... maybe that's what we should do with the Congress and House....
Congress holding A Vote Against Attorney General Barr for Contempt today, and the Mueller Report is Available without Redactions others than Grand Jury, but NOT one democrat would go to the secure facility and read it, at least a few Republicans did go read it...... Dems want an impeachment Go For It, i wish they would try to impeach Trump.... Ridiculous nothing for country being accomplished by New Lead House Of Representative other than chasing Trump.....
Thank You Trump for making our Country Great Again, and Keep Up The Good Work!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 08, 2019, 01:07:18 pm
Say What you want to say......But obama did NOTHING with N.Korea while in office or anything else with foreign affairs except give Iran $150,000,000,000 and left the missile man still dropping missiles all around the peninsula, and even told Trump he would have to deal with the Korean Problem passed on from the last three Presidents, now at least Trump is trying to accomplish something instead of ignoring the problem exists like the past Presidents, with the acception of Clinton trying to buy out N.Korea with a measly 1 billion....lol
Trump has already done more than most in their 8-year term of President...
Need To Get Off Of The Trump Derangement Syndrome.....
Check Out Reality....Leave the Fake News, CNN & MSNBC.....
Up-coming investigations will finally show some of the truth and who is/was in bed with whom, Democrats,Republicans, FBI, CIA & Media
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And this problematic president has done something about North Korea? When?
You’re so full of yourself just like our sitting idiot in charge. Not a clue.
And Trump is doing exactly what you are: drumming up charges as fake as our current administration.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 08, 2019, 01:10:51 pm
Nothing was said about obama and wars....obama never had GDP above 2.9 and he only made that twice, and obama himself said manufacturing jobs were finished in America, unless you have a Magic Wand Trump..... Guess Trump Has that Magic Wand just look at the growth in our Great Nation.... Just imagine if all the Dems and GOP would simply work together to try an improve things together for our Country, how great could things for everyone become..... seems we always send the same old people to Congress and Senate... but a President can only serve 2 terms, so they continually change and some only get one.... maybe that's what we should do with the Congress and House....
Congress holding A Vote Against Attorney General Barr for Contempt today, and the Mueller Report is Available without Redactions others than Grand Jury, but NOT one democrat would go to the secure facility and read it, at least a few Republicans did go read it...... Dems want an impeachment Go For It, i wish they would try to impeach Trump.... Ridiculous nothing for country being accomplished by New Lead House Of Representative other than chasing Trump.....
Thank You Trump for making our Country Great Again, and Keep Up The Good Work!!!!!!!!!!
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Anything as far as an article to bring with this load of banter? Anything at all?
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 08, 2019, 04:18:02 pm
https://youtu.be/lfTGWNTbrTQ
Post by: Weepy on May 09, 2019, 11:29:10 am
People really should have a good look at this sitting president who hates anyone who isn’t white.
https://youtu.be/lfTGWNTbrTQ
Imagine if Obama never showed his taxes, these same ***** echoing Trump's excuses would have demanded he got locked up and his head chopped.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 09, 2019, 11:30:54 am
Imagine if Obama never showed his taxes, these same ***** echoing Trump's excuses would have demanded he got locked up and his head chopped.You are so right about this that it ain’t even funny. Kudos!
Post by: Weepy on May 09, 2019, 05:08:05 pm
You are so right about this that it ain’t even funny. Kudos!
And if they say otherwise, they are lying...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 10, 2019, 03:13:10 am
And if they say otherwise, they are lying...I know, right? Just look at WLU and see for yourself. 🙂
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 10, 2019, 02:44:18 pm
https://youtu.be/Aae1E1vmaO8
Post by: Jackie on May 11, 2019, 11:44:17 am
While Trump and Klan have you distracted here’s one of the things that conservatives are trying to push through with Trump.
https://youtu.be/Aae1E1vmaO8
Walmart's clothes are not cheap and the clothes fall apart.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 11, 2019, 01:22:28 pm
Walmart's clothes are not cheap and the clothes fall apart.No, they’re not. And you’d think with the money spent you’d get your moneys worth, yet don’t. Their shoes will fall apart in under 2 weeks once they get wet.
Shame they rely on quantity rather than quality.
Post by: Jackie on May 11, 2019, 10:42:15 pm
No, they’re not. And you’d think with the money spent you’d get your moneys worth, yet don’t. Their shoes will fall apart in under 2 weeks once they get wet.
Shame they rely on quantity rather than quality.
Cheap labor, cheap materials and who gets all the profits?
Post by: Jackie on May 11, 2019, 10:47:00 pm
Cheap labor, cheap materials and who gets all the profits?
But Walmart isn't the only company that practices this, as this is no secret.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 11, 2019, 11:16:32 pm
But Walmart isn't the only company that practices this, as this is no secret.Than shouldn’t we be calling our representatives who are not really representing we the people?
Post by: Jackie on May 11, 2019, 11:19:01 pm
Than shouldn’t we be calling our representatives who are not really representing we the people?
They are supposed to serve the people, but alot of times don't.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 11, 2019, 11:29:06 pm
They are supposed to serve the people, but alot of times don't.That’s why they have pacs so we don’t know who the money is coming from so we can’t shame the shameless.
Post by: Texas Pete on May 12, 2019, 10:14:45 am
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 12, 2019, 12:02:09 pm
(https://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm183/pete291/60353758_697182770697081_1502680667413020672_n_zpsx8wt4xs2.jpg) (https://s296.photobucket.com/user/pete291/media/60353758_697182770697081_1502680667413020672_n_zpsx8wt4xs2.jpg.html)Good one! Lmao 🤣
Post by: Jackie on May 12, 2019, 05:02:31 pm
That’s why they have pacs so we don’t know who the money is coming from so we can’t shame the shameless.
Pacs, never heard of that expression before.
Post by: Jackie on May 12, 2019, 05:04:07 pm
(https://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm183/pete291/60353758_697182770697081_1502680667413020672_n_zpsx8wt4xs2.jpg) (https://s296.photobucket.com/user/pete291/media/60353758_697182770697081_1502680667413020672_n_zpsx8wt4xs2.jpg.html)
Wow TP, I always got the impression you liked Trump, I guess I was wrong.
Post by: Texas Pete on May 12, 2019, 08:26:38 pm
Wow TP, I always got the impression you liked Trump, I guess I was wrong.Hell no I don't like that laughing stock. :)
Post by: DuckieDoll on May 12, 2019, 10:59:09 pm
Hell no I don't like that laughing stock. :)Trump's a fool. I like Biden 😊
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 13, 2019, 08:27:36 pm
Trump's a fool. I like Biden 😊Sanders or Biden are fine with me and a welcome change from our current laughingstock.
Hi DD! 🙂
Post by: Jackie on May 14, 2019, 05:27:48 pm
Hell no I don't like that laughing stock. :)
I like him, he's very entertaining.
Post by: Jackie on May 14, 2019, 05:29:35 pm
Trump's a fool. I like Biden 😊
Biden always looked like the creature from the black lagoon to me. I'll find the images to compare, you be the judge.
Post by: Jackie on May 14, 2019, 05:36:19 pm
check it out, this is creature
Post by: Jackie on May 14, 2019, 05:37:47 pm
Biden
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 16, 2019, 02:39:46 am
Biden always looked like the creature from the black lagoon to me. I'll find the images to compare, you be the judge.And the chimp in chief looks very much like Bigfoot. lol
With small hands. 😂
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 16, 2019, 02:42:45 am
www.google.com/search?q=biden+head+shots&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS822US822&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=e3XV6iHqD5uB7M%253A%252Cvwx_5dHvy6DbpM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kTab5yu7YBqn3trWeB9ojk2B0LZjQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiVpoCv_ZviAhWwT98KHd9qDjMQ9QEwAXoECAkQBg#imgrc=e3XV6iHqD5uB7M:Trump
Biden
https://youtu.be/kdWjNvhlcX8
Post by: Jackie on May 18, 2019, 08:00:30 pm
Trump
https://youtu.be/kdWjNvhlcX8
Funny video.
Post by: Weepy on May 18, 2019, 11:21:28 pm
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 18, 2019, 11:27:07 pm
Get this, a Republican (just one as far as I know) actually read the Mueller report and is calling for impeachment. First one to have guts to say it publicly at that, I did not know if one existed with guts...About time! 🤣
I didn’t think there was one of those kind of republicans that’s actually honest about impeachment of the that slime ball in the Oval Office. Huh, news to me.
Post by: Weepy on May 18, 2019, 11:29:55 pm
About time! 🤣
I didn’t think there was one of those kind of republicans that’s actually honest about impeachment of the that slime ball in the Oval Office. Huh, news to me.
They know it in private but are scared to speak out because they fear being voted out of office...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 18, 2019, 11:38:26 pm
They know it in private but are scared to speak out because they fear being voted out of office...They aren’t afraid of Trump, nor their crowds, but more so their corporate fat cats that donate to their campaigns.
It’s like a balancing act of trying to stay with their voting block and the big donors that own them.
Post by: Weepy on May 18, 2019, 11:52:53 pm
They aren’t afraid of Trump, nor their crowds, but more so their corporate fat cats that donate to their campaigns.
It’s like a balancing act of trying to stay with their voting block and the big donors that own them.
Many corporate fat cats do not like Trump either., they would rather deal with a compliant moron like Pence . I see the chickenhawk dolt Bolten is trying to manufacture a war with Iran.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 18, 2019, 11:58:19 pm
Many corporate fat cats do not like Trump either., they would rather deal with a compliant moron like Pence . I see the chickenhawk dolt Bolten is trying to manufacture a war with Iran.Yep! Another piece of Shrub we all can do without. We need to take out the trash and demand they fire this whole worthless administration! I’m with ya on this Weepy!
Post by: Weepy on May 19, 2019, 12:12:58 am
Yep! Another piece of Shrub we all can do without. We need to take out the trash and demand they fire this whole worthless administration! I’m with ya on this Weepy!
Kinda sick of guys like Bolton, who like Twitler, was scared to serve his country but loves war. Twitz seems to not want a war, he likes photo ops with dictators as he has shown in the past..
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 19, 2019, 12:26:37 am
Kinda sick of guys like Bolton, who like Twitler, was scared to serve his country but loves war. Twitz seems to not want a war, he likes photo ops with dictators as he has shown in the past..Cheetos Twitter man is owned by Putin who has financially back Cheeto man since the early nineties. So of course he likes dictators because he’s backed by a dictator.
All of them who were afraid to serve their country are sniveling cowards. Bolton, Orange Painted face orangutan man, Trump, Bolton and Bush were all kept out of the war to be safe at home. I even remember how Bush with his “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED” sign was bragging how he flew fighter jets, yet he was awol for most of his stay says all I need to know about he and his spoiled family of cowards.
Post by: Weepy on May 19, 2019, 12:39:01 am
Cheetos Twitter man is owned by Putin who has financially back Cheeto man since the early nineties. So of course he likes dictators because he’s backed by a dictator.l
All of them who were afraid to serve their country are sniveling cowards. Bolton, Orange Painted face orangutan man, Trump, Bolton and Bush were all kept out of the war to be safe at home. I even remember how Bush with his “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED” sign was bragging how he flew fighter jets, yet he was awol for most of his stay says all I need to know about he and his spoiled family of cowards.
I lost all respect for the GOP on that day he gave that speech while the crawl at the bottom of the TV screen was describing fighting and deaths at the same time. I have issues with Chris Matthews on that day gushing with mAnn Colter about dubs flying that plane on that ship, which had the camera pointed at the open sea and the San Diego skyline behind them, pretending to be 100 miles out when they are just couple miles out. You gotta go far out to get the SD skyline out of the picture...
Post by: Weepy on May 19, 2019, 12:43:24 am
Cheetos Twitter man is owned by Putin who has financially back Cheeto man since the early nineties. So of course he likes dictators because he’s backed by a dictator.
All of them who were afraid to serve their country are sniveling cowards. Bolton, Orange Painted face orangutan man, Trump, Bolton and Bush were all kept out of the war to be safe at home. I even remember how Bush with his “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED” sign was bragging how he flew fighter jets, yet he was awol for most of his stay says all I need to know about he and his spoiled family of cowards.
He must really own Twitz to blow all the money that came his way, his businesses made like 400 million last year and probably has nothi g to show for it, that is why he does not want anyone seeing his taxes..
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 19, 2019, 12:48:57 am
lI fully agree, Weepy, all he was doing was trying to make himself look big when the accomplishment was actually as stupid as Bushy Boy.
I lost all respect for the GOP on that day he gave that speech while the crawl at the bottom of the TV screen was describing fighting and deaths at the same time. I have issues with Chris Matthews on that day gushing with mAnn Colter about dubs flying that plane on that ship, which had the camera pointed at the open sea and the San Diego skyline behind them, pretending to be 100 miles out when they are just couple miles out. You gotta go far out to get the SD skyline out of the picture...
I remember him giving the order (you know he did as all that came from the top) to bunch up Iraqis men together in prison on some kind of gay thing. Did you notice how much Bushy liked taking bad about gays, yet he surrounded himself with them? 🤣
The only one’s that hate gays as he supposedly did are gay themselves. You could tell it.
Post by: Weepy on May 19, 2019, 12:51:44 am
I fully agree, Weepy, all he was doing was trying to make himself look big when the accomplishment was actually as stupid as Bushy Boy.
I remember him giving the order (you know he did as all that came from the top) to bunch up Iraqis men together in prison on some kind of gay thing. Did you notice how much Bushy liked taking bad about gays, yet he surrounded himself with them? 🤣
The only one’s that hate gays as he supposedly did are gay themselves. You could tell it.
RxUSH Limbaugh is gay but they try to keep that a secret.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 19, 2019, 03:18:08 am
RxUSH Limbaugh is gay but they try to keep that a secret.I very much agree!
I really don’t have anything against gays at all. But what I hate are those “holier than thou” republican hypocrites that actually hate what they really are - gay. 😂
Post by: Weepy on May 19, 2019, 10:40:29 am
I very much agree!
I really don’t have anything against gays at all. But what I hate are those “holier than thou” republican hypocrites that actually hate what they really are - gay. 😂
RxUSH is an actor playing a character while popping oxy pills like they were M&Ms. He was busted for gay solicitation in the 70s when he was in his 20s while he was a DJ floating across the country.
His handlers are doing their best to keep that info off the internet but plenty of it still exists. There was tons of info on him 20 years ago..
Ann Colter has been rumored to be a man in drag, cannot confirm that but I have seen compelling evidence that is true.
Almost every modern right wing mouthpiece has skeletons in their closet, these people replaced the old school conservatives like Paul Harvey etc, after the lifting of the fairness doctrine the konservative movement decided to go the shock jock route thus the pollution on the airwaves today...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 19, 2019, 12:41:06 pm
RxUSH is an actor playing a character while popping oxy pills like they were M&Ms. He was busted for gay solicitation in the 70s when he was in his 20s while he was a DJ floating across the country.Very interesting stuff! Thanks Weepy! 🙂
His handlers are doing their best to keep that info off the internet but plenty of it still exists. There was tons of info on him 20 years ago..
Ann Colter has been rumored to be a man in drag, cannot confirm that but I have seen compelling evidence that is true.
Almost every modern right wing mouthpiece has skeletons in their closet, these people replaced the old school conservatives like Paul Harvey etc, after the lifting of the fairness doctrine the konservative movement decided to go the shock jock route thus the pollution on the airwaves today...
I’ll have to look this stuff up.
Post by: Realtime on May 19, 2019, 12:41:48 pm
Coulter? Not so much. Years ago she dated Bill Maher long enough to get cozy and he would surely have blurted out that news long ago.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 19, 2019, 12:44:02 pm
Smoke meets Fire with a gay (pedo) Limbaugh who's clearly in game for the $$$. He'd be broadcasting far left crazy if it paid more.I have my doubts Bill stayed no longer than to get a piece and forget her, he’s that typical.
Coulter? Not so much. Years ago she dated Bill Maher long enough to get cozy and he would surely have blurted out that news long ago.
Post by: Realtime on May 19, 2019, 01:33:43 pm
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 19, 2019, 07:59:39 pm
They were pals for a while so that's anyone's guess. She's another who found fame and a tad of fortune by play acting combined with timing. Recall that both cable news and internet forums came along pretty slowly.Agreed.
Post by: Weepy on May 20, 2019, 08:45:13 pm
They were pals for a while so that's anyone's guess. She's another who found fame and a tad of fortune by play acting combined with timing. Recall that both cable news and internet forums came along pretty slowly.l
BTW I call her Colter because she has a horse face, the u left out of her name was intentional...
Post by: Realtime on May 22, 2019, 12:15:51 pm
Post by: Weepy on May 22, 2019, 04:04:16 pm
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 22, 2019, 04:08:24 pm
Trump put himself above the ciuntry with his crybaby rant today.He’s the biggest crybaby fool of the country and everyone knows he’s guilty as hell.
https://apple.news/AUqgRkJBgSUqAQAaVJHqZwA
Post by: Weepy on May 22, 2019, 04:15:32 pm
He’s the biggest crybaby fool of the country and everyone knows he’s guilty as hell.
https://apple.news/AUqgRkJBgSUqAQAaVJHqZwA
True. I ignore those that thinks othewise for the most part. That photo op as well as his imbecilic speech were staged in advance.
Post by: Weepy on May 22, 2019, 04:20:00 pm
Yep! Another piece of Shrub we all can do without. We need to take out the trash and demand they fire this whole worthless administration! I’m with ya on this Weepy!
Ben Carson made a fool of himself yesterday, he may be a great surgeon but he is an incompetent buffoon and an embarrassment as a political hack..
This is the worst administration and no other is close, I never thought the Dubya admin could ever be topped..
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 22, 2019, 05:03:00 pm
Ben Carson made a fool of himself yesterday, he may be a great surgeon but he is an incompetent buffoon and an embarrassment as a political hack..I’m very much in agreement with you buddy. This administration is full of crooks and Trump is not above the law and needs to be impeached now! Talk to your senators and your representatives in congress to have his ass impeached for constant lies and obstruction of justice. Because in the end, if he had nothing to hide then he would share his tax returns to vindicate himself and not providing those tax returns says he has a lot to hide.
This is the worst administration and no other is close, I never thought the Dubya admin could ever be topped..
After all, he did promise to release them while Obama was in office, so his piss poor excuses don’t work anymore, not with the republicans here in my area who are finally taking notice for the first time.
https://apple.news/AfJyFJjJIRN2wBHWxp3cnbg
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 22, 2019, 05:05:58 pm
Ben Carson made a fool of himself yesterday, he may be a great surgeon but he is an incompetent buffoon and an embarrassment as a political hack..I don’t know about that cause this administration seems to have some of the same narcissistic buffoons that Bush had, so you know who the other traitors are - the Bush family.
This is the worst administration and no other is close, I never thought the Dubya admin could ever be topped..
Post by: Weepy on May 22, 2019, 05:34:41 pm
I don’t know about that cause this administration seems to have some of the name narcissistic buffoons that Bush had, so you know who the other traitors are - the Bush family.
I dunno, I doubt Carson nor DeVos would last long back then, they are incompetent. Not narcisistic . The only reason they still have a job is because they do not stand up to Trump like Tillerson and Mattis as they had pride and understood their job better than the above mentioned because they are spineless like a jellyfish. Trump likes cowards better than those whodare speak out. I did not like Tillerson until he told the truth about Trump that he is an fn idiot but he is a corporate crook though...
Post by: Weepy on May 22, 2019, 05:39:27 pm
If an IQ test was required in order to vote, the modern day Republicans could never get voted in... That is a fact..
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 23, 2019, 10:08:57 am
About 90% of Republicans know Trump has no business being prez but was forced into supporting him because of the uneducated mass that takes the word of morons from Fox or RxUSH will vote them out..I couldn’t agree more. However, it has also been shown that the voting machines can be easily hacked and the republicans have been caught numerous times gerrymandering to manipulate votes to favor the republican minority.
If an IQ test was required in order to vote, the modern day Republicans could never get voted in... That is a fact..
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 23, 2019, 10:15:36 am
I dunno, I doubt Carson nor DeVos would last long back then, they are incompetent. Not narcisistic . The only reason they still have a job is because they do not stand up to Trump like Tillerson and Mattis as they had pride and understood their job better than the above mentioned because they are spineless like a jellyfish. Trump likes cowards better than those whodare speak out. I did not like Tillerson until he told the truth about Trump that he is an fn idiot but he is a corporate crook though...Here’s why I don’t trust Nancy Pelosi.
https://youtu.be/Fx5rbneJBHA
Post by: Weepy on May 23, 2019, 11:39:36 am
Here’s why I don’t trust Nancy Pelosi.
https://youtu.be/Fx5rbneJBHA
Pelosi is correct, the GOP senators are in lockstep and would never vote yes so impeachment is a waste of time, he has to resign like Nixon did and that is a possibility and would force the GOP politicians to grow a spine. Something they never had in years..
I would be patient, stuff will come out that the lemmings will not be able to defend. Trump is going to jail unless he is pardoned and even if he is NY will indict him on state crimes, his only hope is to have his gullible base support him and hope a strong third party candidate would allow Twitler to win 2020 with 37% of the vote...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 23, 2019, 11:48:16 am
Pelosi is correct, the GOP senators are in lockstep and would never vote yes so impeachment is a waste of time, he has to resign like Nixon did and that is a possibility and would force the GOP politicians to grow a spine. Something they never had in years..Very well put. However, the last time Pelosi was in charge she was saying the whole time that she was waiting on Bush to be out of office when she should’ve been investigating that imbecile of tyranny and everyone knows it. I am hoping that she does get his tax returns and show the country just how corrupt this administration really is because no one is buying his lies anymore and a prime example of this is, Fox News? WTF?!?!!
I would be patient, stuff will come out that the lemmings will not be able to defend. Trump is going to jail unless he is pardoned and even if he is NY will indict him on state crimes, his only hope is to have his gullible base support him and hope a strong third party candidate would allow Twitler to win 2020 with 37% of the vote...
https://youtu.be/wAhapj4xAe4
Post by: Weepy on May 23, 2019, 12:57:17 pm
Very well put. However, the last time Pelosi was in charge she was saying the whole time that she was waiting on Bush to be out of office when she should’ve been investigating that imbecile of tyranny and everyone knows it. I am hoping that she does get his tax returns and show the country just how corrupt this administration really is because no one is buying his lies anymore and a prime example of this is, Fox News? WTF?!?!!
https://youtu.be/wAhapj4xAe4
Same instance, impeachment would be for show only. At that time Dems has a narrow majority in both chambers and the truth is several Dems voted yes for his made up war in Iraq and was stupid for doing so, that was why Hillary Clinton was rejected over Obama for the 2008 nomination and several Dems were culpable..
What pissed me off during that episode aside is the GOP and their minions at Fox News threw many soldiers under the bus after they gotten injured or forced into homelessness while honorably serving in that manufactured war and called them drug addicts and other things while hiding behind the flag and 95% of these neocon supporters were pzzys when it came time for them to serve their country and kept their children from serving and lusted at watching other people fight their wars while many of them profited off it and suckered many idiots into believing them. That was very disgusting and I have no respect for the GOP...
Post by: Weepy on May 23, 2019, 01:28:34 pm
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 24, 2019, 03:36:43 am
Same instance, impeachment would be for show only. At that time Dems has a narrow majority in both chambers and the truth is several Dems voted yes for his made up war in Iraq and was stupid for doing so, that was why Hillary Clinton was rejected over Obama for the 2008 nomination and several Dems were culpable..Very well put! They are all cowards and have proven this at every opportunity. I think what we really need is the whole government investigated and anyone found to be corrupted by big money should be thrown out on their heads.
What pissed me off during that episode aside is the GOP and their minions at Fox News threw many soldiers under the bus after they gotten injured or forced into homelessness while honorably serving in that manufactured war and called them drug addicts and other things while hiding behind the flag and 95% of these neocon supporters were pzzys when it came time for them to serve their country and kept their children from serving and lusted at watching other people fight their wars while many of them profited off it and suckered many idiots into believing them. That was very disgusting and I have no respect for the GOP...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 24, 2019, 03:37:12 am
Hell John McCain was an honorable vetern and His party turned on him because he was brave unlike Twitler and his minions...Agreed
Post by: Realtime on May 29, 2019, 02:40:12 pm
Thought it great to see Sarah Saunders gasping while at a loss for words in front of the WH press corps. Poor thing.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 29, 2019, 06:58:34 pm
Geez, thought this place would be cranking today with Mueller and all.I haven’t been watching the news. But since you’ve mentioned this then I’ll seek it. Thanks
Thought it great to see Sarah Saunders gasping while at a loss for words in front of the WH press corps. Poor thing.
Post by: Weepy on May 29, 2019, 08:35:12 pm
It is congress move now..
Post by: Realtime on June 02, 2019, 02:27:12 pm
https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/donald-trump-birther/index.html
Anyone recall him sending a team of investigators to Hawaii? Him and his pal Pardoned Joe Arpaio.
Post by: Weepy on June 03, 2019, 04:04:59 pm
Birther Trump
https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/09/politics/donald-trump-birther/index.html
Anyone recall him sending a team of investigators to Hawaii? Him and his pal Pardoned Joe Arpaio.
Yes. Apaio was busy hanging inside Fox affilate in Phoenix all the time while he was sheriff talking about such to Sean Hannity and others in air conditioning comfort with a cactus backdrop. Guy was a waste of time, glad to see Maricopa Coutny dump his fatazz...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 11, 2019, 05:18:09 pm
Jon is an outstanding comedian, father with wit and highly intelligent. And he hit them heard because congress hasn’t been representing we the people.
https://youtu.be/Y2QMqsNvWuc
Post by: Weepy on June 12, 2019, 08:10:10 pm
This says it all about our lawmakers who are supposed to represent the people but don’t have a clue.i
Jon is an outstanding comedian, father with wit and highly intelligent. And he hit them heard because congress hasn’t been representing we the people.
https://youtu.be/Y2QMqsNvWuc
I miss him, he OWNED Bytch McTurtle for a decade with that Impersonation of him...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 15, 2019, 04:46:43 pm
iAgreed.
I miss him, he OWNED Bytch McTurtle for a decade with that Impersonation of him...
Here’s something interesting, eh?
https://youtu.be/EHWiV85Yu7s
Post by: Teaman on June 15, 2019, 10:05:35 pm
Agreed.
Here’s something interesting, eh?
https://youtu.be/EHWiV85Yu7s
Schiff gets punked by two Russian comedians who claimed to have dirt, naked photos of Trump. How do you know if you should call the FBI if you don't give them a listen first? I suppose it is right or wrong depending on who you are when dealing or thinking you were dealing with Russian dirt
https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/report-schiff-fell-for-russian-prank-call
I like the part when Schiff says material should also go to his committee.
Post by: Realtime on June 16, 2019, 09:21:11 am
Schiff gets punked by two Russian comedians who claimed to have dirt, naked photos of Trump. How do you know if you should call the FBI if you don't give them a listen first? I suppose it is right or wrong depending on who you are when dealing or thinking you were dealing with Russian dirtFrom the article you linked
https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/report-schiff-fell-for-russian-prank-call
I like the part when Schiff says material should also go to his committee.
In the recording, Schiff can be heard repeatedly asking for specifics about the nature of the meetings.
“I’ll be in touch with the FBI about this. And we’ll make arrangements with your staff. I think it probably would be best to provide these materials both to our committee and to the FBI,” Schiff says.
So__duped? LMAO
Post by: Teaman on June 16, 2019, 11:07:21 am
From the article you linked
In the recording, Schiff can be heard repeatedly asking for specifics about the nature of the meetings.
“I’ll be in touch with the FBI about this. And we’ll make arrangements with your staff. I think it probably would be best to provide these materials both to our committee and to the FBI,” Schiff says.
So__duped? LMAO
Hey, Realtime! Nope, not duped. You still can't read. Trump also said he would go to the FBI if the info was bad. The point was you don't know it's bad until you give it a listen like Schiff was going to do. It's not illegal or a thing of value until you use it like the dossier.
Post by: Realtime on June 16, 2019, 02:16:29 pm
Hey, Realtime! Nope, not duped. You still can't read. Trump also said he would go to the FBI if the info was bad. The point was you don't know it's bad until you give it a listen like Schiff was going to do. It's not illegal or a thing of value until you use it like the dossier.Word salad!
If Don Jr would have responded in the same way Schiff did it would have been end of story__instead, in true Trump fashion we got a major league clustrfk that will likely bring down a POTUS.
Turn off FOX, your kids will respect you again.
Post by: Teaman on June 17, 2019, 11:27:10 pm
https://www.departments.bucknell.edu/russian/const/36cons04.html#chap10
Post by: Realtime on June 18, 2019, 08:07:35 am
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-trump-orlando-campaign-line-20190617-wzvk4htrnndyfj4xuun34tvqo4-story.html
smh
Post by: Teaman on June 18, 2019, 09:37:56 am
First in line for today's Trump rally/2020 kickoff. (video)
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/politics/os-ne-trump-orlando-campaign-line-20190617-wzvk4htrnndyfj4xuun34tvqo4-story.html
smh
You could head over to the Shady Pines retirement home and listen to Biden. :D
Post by: Realtime on June 18, 2019, 02:08:18 pm
You could head over to the Shady Pines retirement home and listen to Biden. :DWonder if our lady friend Carol will be in attendance tonight? Also wonder if Carol is real or simply another member of the Brad and Joy show.
I'm pulling for Jay Inslee but will happily vote for whoever the D's select.
Post by: Jimmy on June 18, 2019, 07:40:49 pm
Wonder if our lady friend Carol will be in attendance tonight? Also wonder if Carol is real or simply another member of the Brad and Joy show.I'm pretty sure Lorac was the 73 year old woman in your article. The one that slept in a pile of leaves or something like that.
I'm pulling for Jay Inslee but will happily vote for whoever the D's select.
Post by: Teaman on June 18, 2019, 09:44:13 pm
Wonder if our lady friend Carol will be in attendance tonight? Also wonder if Carol is real or simply another member of the Brad and Joy show.
I'm pulling for Jay Inslee but will happily vote for whoever the D's select.
I have no doubt Carol was there.
Post by: Jackie on June 20, 2019, 09:19:25 pm
Post by: Realtime on June 21, 2019, 09:38:25 am
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-authorized-strikes-on-iran-but-called-it-off-abruptly-when-planes-were-already-preparing-to-hit-nyt
Was he bluffing? Who knows, the afternoon meeting with the congressional leaders could have brought him to his senses. More likely it was the Pentagon's assessment that the US would suffer 150 or so KIA's.
Post by: Teaman on June 21, 2019, 10:01:23 am
Trump orders strike against Iran and then abruptly backs off.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-authorized-strikes-on-iran-but-called-it-off-abruptly-when-planes-were-already-preparing-to-hit-nyt
Was he bluffing? Who knows, the afternoon meeting with the congressional leaders could have brought him to his senses. More likely it was the Pentagon's assessment that the US would suffer 150 or so KIA's.
As he said, he isn't going to trade lives for a drone. Good on him. We don't need a Gulf of Tonkin moment.
Post by: Jackie on June 21, 2019, 11:31:05 pm
I'm just getting wind of this now, Immigrant Raids?
Where are they gonna go? Hopefully no one gets hurt.
Post by: Jackie on June 21, 2019, 11:33:23 pm
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2019/6/21/18701580/ice-raids-chicago-immigration-arrests
I'm just getting wind of this now, Immigrant Raids?
Where are they gonna go? Hopefully no one gets hurt.
This is a confusing subject. Hopefully there is a peaceful resolution to this.
Post by: Jackie on June 22, 2019, 01:05:30 pm
I know USA has a serious Illegal Immigration problem, we're bursting at the seems. Just hope this raid doesn't get out of hand.
Post by: Jackie on June 22, 2019, 01:46:32 pm
Oh boy here we go. Hope this goes well.
Post by: Jackie on June 22, 2019, 04:19:00 pm
Update: Trump delaying deportation for 2 weeks.
Post by: Jackie on June 22, 2019, 04:25:11 pm
twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
Update: Trump delaying deportation for 2 weeks.
I'm sorry I posted this link, as I read down further on sev. tweets, people are blaming Trump for issues.
Post by: Jackie on June 22, 2019, 04:28:02 pm
I mean this Tweet blames Trump. Don't people remember Obama (the Democrats) let millions of Illegal Immigrants in.
Post by: Jackie on June 22, 2019, 04:34:10 pm
Bring them in, take them out, jeez, this is getting confusing. ???
Post by: Teaman on June 22, 2019, 04:38:30 pm
twitter.com/realdonaldtrump?lang=en
Update: Trump delaying deportation for 2 weeks.
Lol! They probably have to find them again after announcing their intentions.
The people involved didn't show up for their hearings. A judge had ordered their deportations.
Post by: Jackie on June 22, 2019, 04:45:36 pm
Lol! They probably have to find them again after announcing their intentions.
The people involved didn't show up for their hearings. A judge had ordered their deportations.
That's funny.
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 11:26:48 am
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 07:25:18 pm
I live in constant fear that Trump will deport my Latina mother-in-law who lives at 1837 3rd St, LA 90023, blue house. She gets off work at 6. ;D
Now, now.
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 07:26:48 pm
Now, now.
What I mean is now, now that's not funny.
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 10:50:43 pm
What I mean is now, now that's not funny.
Apparently, you don't have a meddling mother-in-law yet. You will find it funny some day.
Post by: Weepy on June 24, 2019, 04:10:12 am
I live in constant fear that Trump will deport my Latina mother-in-law who lives at 1837 3rd St, LA 90023, blue house. She gets off work at 6. ;D
What is "what Lou Dobbs would say", Alex....
Post by: Realtime on June 24, 2019, 09:24:04 am
twitter.com/ForeverLogical/status/1142510829348118528Illegal entries during Obama were at a decades long low while deportations were high.
I mean this Tweet blames Trump. Don't people remember Obama (the Democrats) let millions of Illegal Immigrants in.
Here are some "accurate" articles on the subject
https://www.factcheck.org/issue/illegal-immigration/
Post by: Jackie on June 24, 2019, 11:13:59 pm
Illegal entries during Obama were at a decades long low while deportations were high.
Here are some "accurate" articles on the subject
https://www.factcheck.org/issue/illegal-immigration/
I remember differently.
Post by: Realtime on June 25, 2019, 05:38:54 am
I remember differently.Turn off FOX, your memory will improve.
Post by: Weepy on June 25, 2019, 05:16:56 pm
Turn off FOX, your memory will improve.
Agreed...
Post by: Jackie on June 25, 2019, 11:23:21 pm
Turn off FOX, your memory will improve.
I don't watch Fox or any other media news.
Post by: Mark J on June 28, 2019, 01:43:17 am
Turn off FOX, your memory will improve.
Studies show that actually does help.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 02:03:06 pm
Schiff gets punked by two Russian comedians who claimed to have dirt, naked photos of Trump. How do you know if you should call the FBI if you don't give them a listen first? I suppose it is right or wrong depending on who you are when dealing or thinking you were dealing with Russian dirtAww, that’s nothing in comparison to this:
https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/report-schiff-fell-for-russian-prank-call
I like the part when Schiff says material should also go to his committee.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/06/25/trump-putin-russia-weiss-227205
How the blind leads the blind.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 02:06:00 pm
From the article you linkedAgreed! 🤣
In the recording, Schiff can be heard repeatedly asking for specifics about the nature of the meetings.
“I’ll be in touch with the FBI about this. And we’ll make arrangements with your staff. I think it probably would be best to provide these materials both to our committee and to the FBI,” Schiff says.
So__duped? LMAO
Seems the only one “DUPED” is Trump and his allies here! 🤣 😂
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 02:07:42 pm
Word salad!Omg! 🤣
If Don Jr would have responded in the same way Schiff did it would have been end of story__instead, in true Trump fashion we got a major league clustrfk that will likely bring down a POTUS.
Turn off FOX, your kids will respect you again.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 02:11:46 pm
Trump orders strike against Iran and then abruptly backs off.Someone must’ve told the little orange baby that he can’t order such strikes because only our congress can declare war, as they hold the pursestrings that he had no control over.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-authorized-strikes-on-iran-but-called-it-off-abruptly-when-planes-were-already-preparing-to-hit-nyt
Was he bluffing? Who knows, the afternoon meeting with the congressional leaders could have brought him to his senses. More likely it was the Pentagon's assessment that the US would suffer 150 or so KIA's.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 02:15:38 pm
I'm sorry I posted this link, as I read down further on sev. tweets, people are blaming Trump for issues.Well, if he’d stop making the issues we wouldn’t have this mess.
You really are that clueless, eh?
Why am I not surprised.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/06/08/trumps-deal-over-migrants-mexico-self-made-crisis-critics-say/1391843001/
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 02:17:44 pm
I don't watch Fox or any other media news.We know, we know. 🙄
The only things you are actually interested in is Trump lies and crackpot UFOLOGISTS. 🤣
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 28, 2019, 04:29:10 pm
Someone must’ve told the little orange baby that he can’t order such strikes because only our congress can declare war, as they hold the pursestrings that he had no control over.What's even funnier is orange head doesn't have a clue what goes on in the military that he is not allowed to know.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 05:10:59 pm
What's even funnier is orange head doesn't have a clue what goes on in the military that he is not allowed to know.Agreed!
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 28, 2019, 05:27:17 pm
Agreed!I was told that by someone very high up in the military. Lol
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 05:31:33 pm
I was told that by someone very high up in the military. LolNo president has any actual authority when it comes to military secrets.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 05:41:21 pm
I was told that by someone very high up in the military. LolI rather enjoy Seth because he speaks the truth with great humorous etiquette. 😁
https://youtu.be/nJNKmVEXuwI
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 07:08:15 pm
No president has any actual authority when it comes to military secrets.
Seriously? He's commander in chief of the military.
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 07:19:45 pm
Someone must’ve told the little orange baby that he can’t order such strikes because only our congress can declare war, as they hold the pursestrings that he had no control over.
I guess he didn't strike a Syrian airbase then.
He only notified Congress. Didn't need their approval.
https://time.com/5240164/syria-missile-strikes-donald-trump-chemical-weapons/
Post by: Weepy on June 28, 2019, 07:26:18 pm
Seriously? He's commander in chief of the military.
He really sucks at it...
Post by: Weepy on June 28, 2019, 07:28:03 pm
I rather enjoy Seth because he speaks the truth with great humorous etiquette. 😁
https://youtu.be/nJNKmVEXuwI
Seth was the one that destroyed Twitler in 2011 at the Press Dinner with him in person , not Obama...
Post by: Weepy on June 28, 2019, 07:29:49 pm
I guess he didn't strike a Syrian airbase then.
He only notified Congress. Didn't need their approval.
https://time.com/5240164/syria-missile-strikes-donald-trump-chemical-weapons/
You are talking about a different situation, Teabag. Syria is not Iran...
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 28, 2019, 08:03:17 pm
Seriously? He's commander in chief of the military.Doesn't mean he knows everything that goes on in the military and it is more of just a title than it does to him knowing what happens. He can't do anything without congressional approval and he doesn't have a clue where to put things and how they work. Lol
Post by: Mark J on June 28, 2019, 08:58:43 pm
Seriously? He's commander in chief of the military.
And isn't that a completely terrifying thought.
In 20 or 30 years we will find out that trump never had the actual nuke codes.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 28, 2019, 09:19:29 pm
And isn't that a completely terrifying thought.They know better than give those to him..hahahaha
In 20 or 30 years we will find out that trump never had the actual nuke codes.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 09:22:58 pm
Seriously? He's commander in chief of the military.How far did Clinton and Bush get when it came to government secrecy?
They can’t and won’t know everything that’s going on especially when it comes to our government conducting secret experiments on the general public to JFK and the like? How far did they get, eh?
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And wasn’t it during the Bush administration that not even the media can no longer talk about government weather experiments?
Why is that? Why did Shrub have something to do with hiding the truth when it came to his clan wanting to wage a war on his own US citizenry through weather experiments to do several things?
One, his Klan wants a nation subservient to their will and not by the people.
Two, he wanted to wage war on the people in the states that did not agree with his bs.
Three, he and his ilk wanted to say that the reality of Global Warming was all made up and he did this also through those big corporations he had chosen to be in his administration, and through FAKE NEWS OUTLETS that they paid for.
Four, who do you think was really responsible for 9/11/01?
Five, his father wanted more control over the government to thus make up the story that there was a wall between the FBI, CIA and our Military when in fact his father wanted more control over them to totally answer to the president instead of the congress and citizenry that actually pay for it.
Six, he was attacking anyone that was against his administration by whatever means possible. And this included anyone in the government, but I guess it’s always okay for he and his ilk to be as corrupt as they want, but don’t anyone else lie, right? Right.
And, his family of criminals wants the US to be a Theocracy, but they too are to be submissive to the state.
That’s why we have just another joke in office that the republicans want him to walk at all costs.
Why is that?
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 09:29:29 pm
And isn't that a completely terrifying thought.I certainly hope not! 😂
In 20 or 30 years we will find out that trump never had the actual nuke codes.
The guy is a complete and utter lunatic and disgrace to our nation that the republicans gave our Oval Office to.
They are just as corrupt as he is and I have no doubt in my mind that they too are in love with Putin and his money.
Treacherous traitors is all they are. Period.
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 10:06:25 pm
You are talking about a different situation, Teabag. Syria is not Iran...
The same presidential power exists. He has 48 hrs. to notify Congress and 60 days to complete whatever action he is taking before he needs congressional approval to continue. I didn't say I agreed with it. These things shouldn't get started without a congressional declaration.
Just so you know, I'm happy Trump called off the strike. I thought we were going to have another Gulf of Tonkin moment. Bolton being the new McNamara. Cooler heads prevailed. That's a good thing.
Tell me, why wasn't everyone all upset when Obama involved the American military in Lybia without Congressional approval?
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 10:07:28 pm
How far did Clinton and Bush get when it came to government secrecy?
They can’t and won’t know everything that’s going on especially when it comes to our government conducting secret experiments on the general public to JFK and the like? How far did they get, eh?
_______
And wasn’t it during the Bush administration that not even the media can no longer talk about government weather experiments?
Why is that? Why did Shrub have something to do with hiding the truth when it came to his clan wanting to wage a war on his own US citizenry through weather experiments to do several things?
One, his Klan wants a nation subservient to their will and not by the people.
Two, he wanted to wage war on the people in the states that did not agree with his bs.
Three, he and his ilk wanted to say that the reality of Global Warming was all made up and he did this also through those big corporations he had chosen to be in his administration, and through FAKE NEWS OUTLETS that they paid for.
Four, who do you think was really responsible for 9/11/01?
Five, his father wanted more control over the government to thus make up the story that there was a wall between the FBI, CIA and our Military when in fact his father wanted more control over them to totally answer to the president instead of the congress and citizenry that actually pay for it.
Six, he was attacking anyone that was against his administration by whatever means possible. And this included anyone in the government, but I guess it’s always okay for he and his ilk to be as corrupt as they want, but don’t anyone else lie, right? Right.
And, his family of criminals wants the US to be a Theocracy, but they too are to be submissive to the state.
That’s why we have just another joke in office that the republicans want him to walk at all costs.
Why is that?
Jeez, man. Have you been listening to Alex Jones?
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 10:10:35 pm
He really sucks at it...
Could be, but the military seems to like him.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 28, 2019, 10:21:34 pm
Could be, but the military seems to like him.No they don't. They may say they do to his face but behind his back they can't stand him..
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 10:22:50 pm
Seth was the one that destroyed Twitler in 2011 at the Press Dinner with him in person , not Obama...
Not that one. The one before Trump decided to run.
Scroll down to Obama took Trump to task.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/27/politics/white-house-correspondents-dinner-moments-trnd/index.html
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 10:25:22 pm
No they don't. They may say they do to his face but behind his back they can't stand him..
How do you know this? The higher ups may not like him.
When you think about it. The troops can elect the higher-ups' commander. Ironic.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 10:26:42 pm
Jeez, man. Have you been listening to Alex Jones?It was all recorded, so I take it you’re a Shrub fan that believed everything Bush said?
Thanks for the confirmation. 😁
Post by: Weepy on June 28, 2019, 10:27:54 pm
No they don't. They may say they do to his face but behind his back they can't stand him..
He tends to forget that his Defense Sec resigned because he refused to obey his ridiculous agenda...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 10:28:28 pm
Jeez, man. Have you been listening to Alex Jones?Your communist commander certainly loves dictators, why is that?
https://apple.news/Ac2swZ2LsR3q2ehnh0YfMyQ
Post by: Weepy on June 28, 2019, 10:33:08 pm
Your communist commander certainly loves dictators, why is that?
https://apple.news/Ac2swZ2LsR3q2ehnh0YfMyQ
Alex Jones is one of Trump's best friends and been on his propoganda show many times, dunno why Teabag uses him as an example...
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 10:37:35 pm
Alex Jones is one of Trump's best friends and been on his propoganda show many times, dunno why Teabag uses him as an example...
Cygnus mentioned a 911 conspiracy. That's some Alex Jones screwball conspiracy.
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 10:39:34 pm
Your communist commander certainly loves dictators, why is that?
https://apple.news/Ac2swZ2LsR3q2ehnh0YfMyQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsxtImDVMig
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 10:41:02 pm
Alex Jones is one of Trump's best friends and been on his propoganda show many times, dunno why Teabag uses him as an example...Your guess is as good as mine. 😂
Post by: Weepy on June 28, 2019, 10:46:28 pm
Cygnus mentioned a 911 conspiracy. That's some Alex Jones screwball conspiracy.
Trump believes into 9/11 conspiracy as well. Many people are scared to take that view, I am not a believer in the Bush admin version of those events either. Before a black man became president, and angered him, Trump had different views and told Larry King that 9/11 was a cover up. I watched those shows back in the day..,
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 10:47:12 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsxtImDVMigAre you saying you’re in love with Trump and Kim? Or are you saying Trump needs the love when his actual love is M-O-N-E-Y and himself? Because those are really the only things he even gives a sh!t about.
Post by: Jackie on June 28, 2019, 10:48:04 pm
Well, if he’d stop making the issues we wouldn’t have this mess.
You really are that clueless, eh?
Why am I not surprised.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/06/08/trumps-deal-over-migrants-mexico-self-made-crisis-critics-say/1391843001/
eh, I am not surprised that you are clueless.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 10:48:55 pm
Trump believes into 9/11 conspiracy as well. Many people are scared to take that view, I am not a believer in the Bush admin version of those events either. Before a black man became president, and angered him, Trump had different views and told Larry King that 9/11 was a cover up. I watched those shows back in the day..,He also faced Jeb about it in the 2016 debate if I recall.
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 10:49:35 pm
He tends to forget that his Defense Sec resigned because he refused to obey his ridiculous agenda...
Yeah, I don't think Maddog got along with him. I did say higher-ups, didn't I?
Maddog didn't want troops pulled out of anywhere.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 28, 2019, 10:49:37 pm
eh, I am not surprised that you are clueless.You sure are and as clueless as they obviously come. 😂
Post by: Jackie on June 28, 2019, 10:52:33 pm
You sure are and as clueless as they obviously come. 😂
Trump will make America great again.
Post by: DuckieDoll on June 28, 2019, 10:54:39 pm
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 10:54:44 pm
He also faced Jeb about it in the 2016 debate if I recall.
I haven't heard that one. The birth certificate thing is all I know about and that was dumb. I can't believe people were actually talking about birth certificates.
It doesn't matter where you were born. What happens if you're born on a ship in international waters? My sister was born in Germany in a German hospital.
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 10:58:08 pm
Trump believes into 9/11 conspiracy as well. Many people are scared to take that view, I am not a believer in the Bush admin version of those events either. Before a black man became president, and angered him, Trump had different views and told Larry King that 9/11 was a cover up. I watched those shows back in the day..,
How do you think it went down?
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 28, 2019, 11:01:39 pm
How do you know this? The higher ups may not like him.How do I know this? Because I know people who serve high up.in the chain of military and they don't like him. They may respect the title same as they do with any president but they don't have to like the person.
When you think about it. The troops can elect the higher-ups' commander. Ironic.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 28, 2019, 11:03:38 pm
He tends to forget that his Defense Sec resigned because he refused to obey his ridiculous agenda...Yep and many of the high up commanders in the different branches don't like him. They may respect his title but they certainly don't trust him enough to tell him everything going on or how they do it. Loose lips sinks ships.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 28, 2019, 11:06:30 pm
I haven't heard that one. The birth certificate thing is all I know about and that was dumb. I can't believe people were actually talking about birth certificates.It doesn't matter where you are born but you have to be a U.S. natural born citizen to be president. Yes, the birth certificate fiasco was ignorant.
It doesn't matter where you were born. What happens if you're born on a ship in international waters? My sister was born in Germany in a German hospital.
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 11:09:03 pm
It was all recorded, so I take it you’re a Shrub fan that believed everything Bush said?
Thanks for the confirmation. 😁
I'm a fan of liberty, freedom, limited federal government, free market, the constitution. I lean conservative Libertarian. I have some problems with Trump, but overall he seems to be working out. Keeping his campaign promises anyway. I also have problems with the stupid party as you do. I liked some Democrats, not many. I just don't like the New Left and a central power accumulating power and control.
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!
Barry Goldwater
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 11:09:48 pm
It doesn't matter where you are born but you have to be a U.S. natural born citizen to be president. Yes, the birth certificate fiasco was ignorant.
Margarita time! ;D
Post by: Weepy on June 28, 2019, 11:12:28 pm
How do you think it went down?
It is too complicated for your types to asorb. The goal was for permanent warfare, choose whoever they want to go to war with as they proved with Iraq. I am suspicious of Pearl Harbor as well, this country was in a severe depression until PH and then went into a boom and eliminated unemployment almost just like that. Neither party can be trusted to be truthful with this country's history in that regard....
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 11:12:33 pm
How do I know this? Because I know people who serve high up.in the chain of military and they don't like him. They may respect the title same as they do with any president but they don't have to like the person.
It could be.
Not a higher up, but my father couldn't stand Eisenhower.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 28, 2019, 11:16:00 pm
It could be.
Not a higher up, but my father couldn't stand Eisenhower.
Could be, it is. The military isn't about to tell any president every little thing and secret they have in the arsenal. Loose lips sinks ships and a strong military is one where not many know what is going on.
Post by: cowface on June 28, 2019, 11:17:10 pm
Are you saying you’re in love with Trump and Kim? Or are you saying Trump needs the love when his actual love is M-O-N-E-Y and himself? Because those are really the only things he even gives a sh!t about.I believe there is an election coming up... cast your vote for your President. That's what you did last time right?
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 11:18:00 pm
It is too complicated for your types to asorb. The goal was for permanent warfare, choose whoever they want to go to war with as they proved with Iraq. I am suspicious of Pearl Harbor as well, this country was in a severe depression until PH and then went into a boom and eliminated unemployment almost just like that. Neither party can be trusted to be truthful with this country's history in that regard....
I tend to agree with you on that. So, why grow it larger?
More put-downs. lol Call me a deplorable why doncha? You're not going to tell me the government set charges in the towers, are you?
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 11:21:29 pm
Could be, it is. The military isn't about to tell any president every little thing and secret they have in the arsenal. Loose lips sinks ships and a strong military is one where not many know what is going on.
Every little thing is probably true. It's simply too big to know about every little thing.
Sometimes battalion commanders don't know what's going on in their battalions. hehehe
Post by: Jackie on June 28, 2019, 11:26:10 pm
Could be, it is. The military isn't about to tell any president every little thing and secret they have in the arsenal. Loose lips sinks ships and a strong military is one where not many know what is going on.
Just like the government can't tell US citizens everything that is going on also, for whatever reasons.
Post by: Jackie on June 28, 2019, 11:26:53 pm
Just like the government can't tell US citizens everything that is going on also, for whatever reasons.
Just gotta have faith they know what they are doing.
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 11:28:52 pm
Are you saying you’re in love with Trump and Kim? Or are you saying Trump needs the love when his actual love is M-O-N-E-Y and himself? Because those are really the only things he even gives a sh!t about.
Didn't you hear Marianne Williamson at the democratic debate? Love will solve all of our problems. Can we all sing Kum Ba Yah together?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yU0JuE1jTk
All we are saying is give peace a chance.
Post by: Weepy on June 28, 2019, 11:37:26 pm
He also faced Jeb about it in the 2016 debate if I recall.
Trump has trashed the Bush family a long time, Ronald Reagan did not like him either..
I remember in 2016 that when his daughter Ivanka gave a speech at the RNC in Cleveland, she espoused clearly liberal views, I was astounded she was not booed off stage.
I will always believe Trump's goal was to destroy the GOP's reputation and it was personal, the Democrats wanted no part of it and is related to 9/11. There was no major or minor conservative newspaper that endorsed Trump for president, including our local newspaper, which never endorsed a democrat until 2016. Roger Ailes joined Trump's campaign and they nearly came to blows. Hannity and those stooges are scared they will lose their audience if he stood by his principles, which Trump never shared. Several of these people are being blackmailed and will not fight Trump.
Ever notice how the GOP had been eating their own since Trump been president? Jeff Sessions was a popular Senator on that side until he served for Trump, MCConnell and gang threw him under the bus. Trump knew damn well he had to recuse himself. I remember seeing the look on Chris Christie's face when he endorsed Trump, Christie put Kushner's dad in prison.
Trump does not care about his reputation in history nor does he care about prison, he will not serve in the general population and will be treated like a King, no different than Bill Cosby and others. He wants this country to burn down in anarchy and motivates childen in schools to bully others, etc..
I can go on and on but it will take a couple decades for the full picture to develope from this adventure...
Post by: Weepy on June 28, 2019, 11:39:31 pm
I'm a fan of liberty, freedom, limited federal government, free market, the constitution. I lean conservative Libertarian. I have some problems with Trump, but overall he seems to be working out. Keeping his campaign promises anyway. I also have problems with the stupid party as you do. I liked some Democrats, not many. I just don't like the New Left and a central power accumulating power and control.
I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!
Barry Goldwater
You are espousing scripted BS...
Post by: cowface on June 28, 2019, 11:40:17 pm
Post by: Weepy on June 28, 2019, 11:45:12 pm
I tend to agree with you on that. So, why grow it larger?
More put-downs. lol Call me a deplorable why doncha? You're not going to tell me the government set charges in the towers, are you?
You are not a sharp knife in the drawer, that is for sure. You parrot plattiudes and cliches that did not originate with you..
Things can be done without the knowledge of the president of the US, GWB was not that bright to be a mastermind, I will agree with that...
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 11:52:45 pm
You are espousing scripted BS...
Jawohl, Mein Fuhrer. smh
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 11:54:33 pm
You are not a sharp knife in the drawer, that is for sure. You parrot plattiudes and cliches that did not originate with you..
Things can be done without the knowledge of the president of the US, GWB was not that bright. To be a mastermind, I will agree with that...
Like what? Laying miles of det cord and opening walls to place charges without notice?
Post by: Teaman on June 28, 2019, 11:59:25 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5WJJVSE_BE
That reminds me of a beer hall with some Green Beret having a beer on an unnamed military base when that song began to play on the jukebox. Someone proclaimed, who played that shyt and kicked the jukebox causing the record to skip? That's when the fight started. ;D
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 12:09:07 am
Jawohl, Mein Fuhrer. smhYou are just rambling idiocy that you listen to on Fox or its satellites, does not faze me...
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 12:09:15 am
Just like the government can't tell US citizens everything that is going on also, for whatever reasons..
The military isn't going to tell everything for fear other countries would try and steal plans. That is common knowledge to keep some things hush hush.
Post by: Jackie on June 29, 2019, 12:16:41 am
.
The military isn't going to tell everything for fear other countries would try and steal plans. That is common knowledge to keep some things hush hush.
I could believe that.
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 12:17:23 am
Like what? Laying miles of det cord and opening walls to place charges without notice?
That stuff can be done without detection by the average person ever heard of the term compartmentalization, where separate teams of people can do things related to one project but not know the whole picture by themselves? Of course you haven't, the mannequins you parrot will never tell you such stuff nor can you asorb such complicated things with only a few brain cells.. It can be done...
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 12:27:12 am
That stuff can be done without detection by the average person ever heard of the term compartmentalization, where separate teams of people can do things related to one project but not know the whole picture by themselves? Of course you haven't, the mannequins you parrot will never tell you such stuff nor can you asorb such complicated things with only a few brain cells.. It can be done...
How do you explain all of the det cord to the employees? The towers weren't your normal type of building, open floor about an acre big with a central tower with stairs and elevators. You would have to open a lot of ceiling to place some sizable charges on the floor beams and stairwells.
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 12:29:03 am
.
The military isn't going to tell everything for fear other countries would try and steal plans. That is common knowledge to keep some things hush hush.
Mums the word with a leaky congress. Come to think of it, the White House had a lot of leaks.
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 12:52:45 am
How do you explain all of the det cord to the employees? The towers weren't your normal type of building, open floor about an acre big with a central tower with stairs and elevators. You would have to open a lot of ceiling to place some sizable charges on the floor beams and stairwells.
You are reading but you are not comprehending, I am not gonna spend all night explaining to you you that things can be done by as few as three sets of teams who does not know how the other two sets of operations work. Look up the Manhattan Project, which built the atomic bomb, no one person knew how to build the entire freaking bomb and they had no clue that was what they were working on until the bomb was dropped in Japan. It is to prevent full plans from falling into the hands of an enemy by one or two spys, etc...
Many manufacturing jobs are operated similarly, you know your role in installing a piece of material but you do not know how that piece was made, by another operation.
It is obviously over your head. Go back to doing what your thpe does best, parrot platitudes and cliches you copy from a TV mannequin or go play the word games and let those who knows what they are talking about explain these things...
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 10:01:34 am
You are reading but you are not comprehending, I am not gonna spend all night explaining to you you that things can be done by as few as three sets of teams who does not know how the other two sets of operations work. Look up the Manhattan Project, which built the atomic bomb, no one person knew how to build the entire freaking bomb and they had no clue that was what they were working on until the bomb was dropped in Japan. It is to prevent full plans from falling into the hands of an enemy by one or two spys, etc...
Many manufacturing jobs are operated similarly, you know your role in installing a piece of material but you do not know how that piece was made, by another operation.
It is obviously over your head. Go back to doing what your thpe does best, parrot plattitudes and cliches you copy from a TV mannequin or go play the word games and let those who knows what they are talking about explain these things...
So, you're saying the employees were either in on it or didn't know what det cord or explosive charges are? They weren't curious about people walking around an open floor plan with all of that cord? Or, did they sneak in overnight? Those towers weren't a normal structural design. No columns and not many rooms. Everything is out in plain sight.
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 11:26:13 am
So, you're saying the employees were either in on it or didn't know what det cord or explosive charges are? They weren't curious about people walking around an open floor plan with all of that cord? Or, did they sneak in overnight? Those towers weren't a normal structural design. No columns and not many rooms. Everything is out in plain sight.
No Teabag, what I am saying is, like PL and Cyg has mentioned earlier, you are clueless. You are not a deep thinking individual and I got no patience with simple minded people with such information. I have about twenty others I can discuss such and can grasp what I am saying, maybe they do not agree with me 100% but the ones I deal with are educated types. I am not a fan of your type who likes to deflect and play semantics, even if you suck at it .
That is what I am trying to say and that is my $0.02 for right now...
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 12:07:28 pm
No Teabag, what I am saying is, like PL and Cyg has mentioned earlier, you are clueless. You are not a deep thinking individual and I got no patience with simple minded people with such information. I have about twenty others I can discuss such and can grasp what I am saying, maybe they do not agree with me 100% but the ones I deal with are educated types. I am not a fan of your type who likes to deflect and play semantics, even if you suck at it .
That is what I am trying to say and that is my $0.02 for right now...
Lol! I thought Alex Jones was a right wing nut job.
https://www.news18.com/news/world/facebook-suspends-conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-who-claimed-911-was-inside-job-1826439.html
Post by: DuckieDoll on June 29, 2019, 12:11:06 pm
The military men that worked there were interviewed about their positions in the making of the first Spy planes against Russia. They were housed in Pods on the base, and were given orders to never speak of their jobs. Each had one specific job to do (Engineers) without knowing what the other men were working on. They understood it was something to do with planes, but did not know the extent of the project till completed. It was to keep the full plans out of enemy hands, which eventually failed because Russia shot the Spy plane down, and made their own after our plans.
It was very interesting. Try to find it, and watch it.
Afternoon friends!😊
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 12:15:11 pm
There was an interesting show on the History Channel about Area 51 years ago if anyone can find it.I saw that show and it was interesting. There was also an show about items that were placed in Ft. Knox that people didn't know about at one time.
The military men that worked there were interviewed about their positions in the making of the first Spy planes against Russia. They were houses in Pods on the base, and were given orders to never speak of their jobs. Each had one specific job to do (Engineers) without knowing what the other men were working on. They understood it was something to do with planes, but did not know the extent of the project till completed. It was to keep the full plans out of enemy hands, which eventually failed because Russia shot the Spy plane down, and made their own after our plans.
It was very interesting. Try to find it, and watch it.
Afternoon friends!😊
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 12:33:45 pm
Lol! I thought Alex Jones was a right wing nut job.
https://www.news18.com/news/world/facebook-suspends-conspiracy-theorist-alex-jones-who-claimed-911-was-inside-job-1826439.html
No, Alex Jones is an anti- government nut job, he hates everybody...
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 12:34:05 pm
There was an interesting show on the History Channel about Area 51 years ago if anyone can find it.
The military men that worked there were interviewed about their positions in the making of the first Spy planes against Russia. They were housed in Pods on the base, and were given orders to never speak of their jobs. Each had one specific job to do (Engineers) without knowing what the other men were working on. They understood it was something to do with planes, but did not know the extent of the project till completed. It was to keep the full plans out of enemy hands, which eventually failed because Russia shot the Spy plane down, and made their own after our plans.
It was very interesting. Try to find it, and watch it.
Afternoon friends!😊
I saw that. The same with the stealth fighter. 911 Was simply blowing up a building. That was a number of people in a single place opposed to a number of people in numerous places. No moving parts other than the other part of flying planes into a building. How were the personnel in the Pentagon fooled?
Afternoon. :)
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 12:35:38 pm
No, Alex Jones is an anti- government nut job, he hates everybody...
Sound familiar?
Throw in a little paranoia too.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 12:46:02 pm
I saw that. The same with the stealth fighter. 911 Was simply blowing up a building. That was a number of people in a single place opposed to a number of people in numerous places. No moving parts other than the other part of flying planes into a building. How were the personnel in the Pentagon fooled?Then why did so many people lose their lives in the WTC buildings? You reek of ignorance if you think every single one of them was part of a master plan to blow it up and the other places. Innocent people.were killed on that day.
Afternoon. :)
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 12:50:47 pm
Sound familiar?
Throw in a little paranoia too.
Yes it does, Donald Trump is his best friend....
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 12:52:38 pm
Then why did so many people lose their lives in the WTC buildings? You reek of ignorance if you think every single one of them was part of a master plan to blow it up and the other places. Innocent people.were killed on that day.
People like teabag does not grasp complex issues...
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 12:54:28 pm
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 12:54:34 pm
Then why did so many people lose their lives in the WTC buildings? You reek of ignorance if you think every single one of them was part of a master plan to blow it up and the other places. Innocent people.were killed on that day.
I don't think that at all. Read again. I was attempting to demonstrate how ridiculous Weepy" conspiracy is. How could they not see the enormous amount of det cord or explosive charges and the opening of walls and ceilings to place these devices?
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 01:00:42 pm
WTC 7 fell just like the Twin Towers and was not hit by a plane...
Yeah, for the same reasons the towers fell. Debris from the towers fell on WTC 7 causing damage and fire. Again, that building wasn't of orthodox design.
How many tons of explosive would it take to bring that down and why that particular building?
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 01:03:21 pm
WTC 7 fell just like the Twin Towers and was not hit by a plane...
https://www.thorntontomasetti.com/projects/world_trade_center_7_collapse_investigation/
Post by: DuckieDoll on June 29, 2019, 01:06:39 pm
I saw that. The same with the stealth fighter. 911 Was simply blowing up a building. That was a number of people in a single place opposed to a number of people in numerous places. No moving parts other than the other part of flying planes into a building. How were the personnel in the Pentagon fooled?No idea Teaman. I just brought up my story to tell how military secrets work from everyones past conversation. How everyone has a job, but do not always know the details of that job to prevent leaks.
Afternoon. :)
On 911, that was a horrible loss with many still suffering, and for me to speculate on anything other than the Intel was missed, and terrorist accomplished what they set out to do would be minimizing the deaths of so manys. That day changed things forever for all of us.
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 01:19:52 pm
No idea Teaman. I just brought up my story to tell how military secrets work from everyones past conversation. How everyone has a job, but do not always know the details of that job to prevent leaks.
On 911, that was a horrible loss with many still suffering, and for me to speculate on anything other than the Intel was missed, and terrorist accomplished what they set out to do would be minimizing the deaths of so manys. That day changed things forever for all of us.
You hit on one of the problems. Missed intelligence. Agencies not talking to each other. Homeland security was created and it seems like agencies are still not talking to each other.
I went up to ground zero after the collapse. Heart-wrenching.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 01:29:55 pm
I don't think that at all. Read again. I was attempting to demonstrate how ridiculous Weepy" conspiracy is. How could they not see the enormous amount of det cord or explosive charges and the opening of walls and ceilings to place these devices?The towers were hit and no cord or explosive charges were in the buildings but with the impact of the buildings being hit caused them to explode.
https://science.howstuffworks.com/engineering/structural/cause-world-trade-center-collapse.htm
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 01:31:58 pm
You hit on one of the problems. Missed intelligence. Agencies not talking to each other. Homeland security was created and it seems like agencies are still not talking to each other.Homeland security didn't start until after that. Osama bin Laden could have been taken out when Clinton was President and he refused to do so. Oliver North said then that bin Laden would cause issues and he did. We should have let Oliver have the go ahead to.blow him up.
I went up to ground zero after the collapse. Heart-wrenching.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 01:35:40 pm
No idea Teaman. I just brought up my story to tell how military secrets work from everyones past conversation. How everyone has a job, but do not always know the details of that job to prevent leaks.U.S. had had some prior warnings about bombings. USS Cole and in 1993, the bombing at Trade Center
On 911, that was a horrible loss with many still suffering, and for me to speculate on anything other than the Intel was missed, and terrorist accomplished what they set out to do would be minimizing the deaths of so manys. That day changed things forever for all of us.
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 01:38:21 pm
I don't think that at all. Read again. I was attempting to demonstrate how ridiculous Weepy" conspiracy is. How could they not see the enormous amount of det cord or explosive charges and the opening of walls and ceilings to place these devices?
Again, you read but you do not comprehend. Things can be done in front of you and you wil have no clue what it is..
I will take the word of scientists that know their schidt over a teabagger reading a think tank article written for political purposes anyday..
Anyway until the release of the film of the 1st plane crash and the Pentagon hit is released and not hidden from public view, I will always believe in underhanded activity such as "allowing the attack to occur" which would put the blame on the clowns in charge of the US govt on that day. It could turn out to be incompetence but that still will not absolve the GWB admin of fault
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 01:41:49 pm
Homeland security didn't start until after that. Osama bin Laden could have been taken out when Clinton was President and he refused to do so. Oliver North said then that bin Laden would cause issues and he did. We should have let Oliver have the go ahead to.blow him up.
I know. Homeland Security was created after the missed intelligence that could have stopped 911.
You're right about Clinton. I recall a program that had a CIA operative say he had the opportunity to assassinate Bin Laden and requested permission to do so. Not only was he refused, but he also faced disciplinary actions for wanting to assassinate him.
I remember Ollie North wanting a security fence around his house because of Bin Laden. He got a lot of ridicule for it.
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 01:42:10 pm
U.S. had had some prior warnings about bombings. USS Cole and in 1993, the bombing at Trade Center
And they were given to the GWB administration upon the transition period, it was the responsibility of GWB after 1/20/01. He decided to do nothing about it and manypeople died. OBL was not Id'd as the Cole attacker until GWB became president. OBL was a CIA asset in the GHWB days, whatever happened there I dunno...
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 01:43:36 pm
Homeland security didn't start until after that. Osama bin Laden could have been taken out when Clinton was President and he refused to do so. Oliver North said then that bin Laden would cause issues and he did. We should have let Oliver have the go ahead to.blow him up.
Clinton tried but he ran out of time, GWB became tesponsible and refused to go after him, thus 9/11 happened...
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 01:44:09 pm
The towers were hit and no cord or explosive charges were in the buildings but with the impact of the buildings being hit caused them to explode.
https://science.howstuffworks.com/engineering/structural/cause-world-trade-center-collapse.htm
Exactly. no evidence of placed explosives. 911 conspiracies are ridiculous.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 01:50:08 pm
And they were given to the GWB administration upon the transition period, it was the responsibility of GWB after 1/20/01. He decided to do nothing about it and manypeople died. OBL was not Id'd as the Cole attacker until GWB became president. OBL was a CIA asset in the GHWB days, whatever happened there I dunno...Point being is Clinton could have and didn't before Bush. I don't think it really matters but at least Obama got SEAL team 6 to get him. I was in Norfolk when that happened, couldn't get off the base for several days afterwards.
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 01:54:41 pm
Point being is Clinton could have and didn't before Bush. I don't think it really matters but at least Obama got SEAL team 6 to get him. I was in Norfolk when that happened, couldn't get off the base for several days afterwards.
And the GOP was jealous of Obama for taking him out and tried to smear and slander the outfit that did so, his admin took Gadaffi(sp) out and became bitter...
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 01:57:07 pm
Again, you read but you do not comprehend. Things can be done in front of you and you wil have no clue what it is..
I will take the word of scientists that know their schidt over a teabagger reading a think tank article written for political purposes anyday..
Anyway until the release of the film of the 1st plane crash and the Pentagon hit is released and not hidden from public view, I will always believe in underhanded activity such as "allowing the attack to occur" which would put the blame on the clowns in charge of the US govt on that day. It could turn out to be incompetence but that still will not absolve the GWB admin of fault
The first plane. Holy shyt!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3shmfKOZ9g
You sound like you're anti government. Are you anti government?
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 02:02:30 pm
Point being is Clinton could have and didn't before Bush. I don't think it really matters but at least Obama got SEAL team 6 to get him. I was in Norfolk when that happened, couldn't get off the base for several days afterwards.
And, that's a good thing. Getting Bin Laden that is. I would hate to be stuck in Norfolk. :)
Have you seen the movie Zero Dark Thirty?
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 02:02:39 pm
And the GOP was jealous of Obama for taking him out and tried to smear and slander the outfit that did so, his admin took Gadaffi(sp) out and became bitter...Yep
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 02:03:14 pm
And, that's a good thing. Getting Bin Laden that is. I would hate to be stuck in Norfolk. :)Norfolk is one of the better bases to be stuck at.
Have you seen the movie Zero Dark Thirty?
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 02:04:11 pm
The first plane. Holy shyt!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3shmfKOZ9g
You sound like you're anti government. Are you anti government?
That proved nothing and that was released a couple months afterwards, I seen a grainy pic of the Pentagon but it proved nothing. The FBI seized the local films trained on the Pentagon from local businesses and eith destroyed or locked up...
There were fn cameras all over that city that could have captured that, they are not shown. Why is that? It should have been taken immediately
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 02:07:20 pm
And the GOP was jealous of Obama for taking him out and tried to smear and slander the outfit that did so, his admin took Gadaffi(sp) out and became bitter...
So now the commander in chief knows every little thing? Hats off to Obama for approving the raid. That took some backbone. I don't remember any slander against Seal Team 6.
Gadaffi was taken out without congressional approval. Why was it Okay then and not now?
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 02:12:44 pm
So now the commander in chief knows every little thing? Hats off to Obama for approving the raid. That took some backbone. I don't remember any slander against Seal Team 6.Obama wasn't aware of SEAL team 6 taking out Osama until after it happened.
Gadaffi was taken out without congressional approval. Why was it Okay then and not now?
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 02:13:18 pm
That proved nothing and that was released a couple months afterwards, I seen a grainy pic of the Pentagon but it proved nothing. The FBI seized the local films trained on the Pentagon from local businesses and eith destroyed or locked up...
There were fn cameras all over that city that could have captured that, they are not shown. Why is that? It should have been taken immediately
https://www.businessinsider.com/the-fbi-pentagon-on-911-2017-5
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 02:15:42 pm
So now the commander in chief knows every little thing? Hats off to Obama for approving the raid. That took some backbone. I don't remember any slander against Seal Team 6.
Gadaffi was taken out without congressional approval. Why was it Okay then and not now?
You sad over Gadaffi taken out? I had no idea he was an idol of yours. Your party never cared anyway, they overdramatized an embassy bombing that killed four people for political puposes caused by a GOP controled congress who refused to pay for their security after being requested. 10 times more people died in embassy bombings in the GWB and Reagan admins but "those were didferent blah blah blah" according to teabaggers..,
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 02:18:21 pm
Obama wasn't aware of SEAL team 6 taking out Osama until after it happened.
Good point.
I may have misread Weepy's post.
He gave the approval and I give him applause him for that. Good job.
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 02:19:35 pm
Obama wasn't aware of SEAL team 6 taking out Osama until after it happened.
I disagree. It was planned the day of the Press dinner that Trump was humiliated and there was footage of him, Hillary Clinton etc there discussing it. It is hatred over that man being president that he will never be given credit for anything he did and history will look at him in a favorable light unlike the last tnree GOP presidents, heck even Reagan's credibility has dropped since he was there...
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 02:22:02 pm
You sad over Gadaffi taken out? I had no idea he was an idol of yours. Your party never cared anyway, they overdramatized an embassy bombing that killed four people for political puposes caused by a GOP controled congress who refused to pay for their security after being requested. 10 times more people died in embassy bombings in the GWB and Reagan admins but "those were didferent blah blah blah" according to teabaggers..,
No, I didn't like Gadaffi. I was wondering why no congressional approval was needed then but you want it now when Trump wants to do something. It appears hypocritical.
The other embassies weren't denied requested additional security.
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 02:22:51 pm
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 02:28:10 pm
No, I didn't like Gadaffi. I was wondering why no congressional approval was needed then but you want it now when Trump wants to do something. It appears hypocritical.
The other embassies weren't denied requested additional security.
Actually it was approved but your retards do not know how Senate procedure works but that is another story...
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 02:28:15 pm
I disagree. It was planned the day of the Press dinner that Trump was humiliated and there was footage of him, Hillary Clinton etc there discussing it. It is hatred over that man being president that he will never be given credit for anything he did and history will look at him in a favorable light unlike the last tnree GOP presidents, heck even Reagan's credibility has dropped since he was there...He wasn't aware of when it was going to take place. He knew it was going to happen but not sure of the exact hour.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 02:28:47 pm
Actually it was approved but your retards do not know how Senate procedure works but that is another story...Yep, it was approved.
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 02:29:22 pm
Gotta go. Catch you guys later.Bye, we do not need you here in the meantime anyway...
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 02:30:02 pm
He wasn't aware of when it was going to take place. He knew it was going to happen but not sure of the exact hour.
Touche...
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 02:31:37 pm
He wasn't aware of when it was going to take place. He knew it was going to happen but not sure of the exact hour.
I misread you there, PL. Sorry :)
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 03:22:33 pm
I misread you there, PL. Sorry :)No worries, Weepy. I should have explained that better.
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 03:44:34 pm
Actually it was approved but your retards do not know how Senate procedure works but that is another story...
The Senate doesn't control the State Department. The state dept. is in the Executive branch, not the Legislative branch. The embassies came under Hillary, Secretary of State.
https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2016/oct/07/paul-ryan/state-department-under-hillary-clinton-refused-sec/
Post by: Teaman on June 29, 2019, 03:47:27 pm
Bye, we do not need you here in the meantime anyway...
Now I'm really gone.
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 03:50:07 pm
No worries, Weepy. I should have explained that better.
Teabag mischaracterized my opinions with his childish way of handling it, I explained compartmentalization, Duckie brought up an example of it but it still is over his head, I never said anything about some charge but the fact that things can be done without the common man knowiing it even if it is in front of him but he wants to play semantics like his type does to get around the converstaion.
I never said I had all the answers but I am not naive enough to take the word of a TV mannequin (ie Hannity) nor parrot it and I am a thoughful person and very opinionated. I take pride in such and do not cower by saying " I like simple things" or a dumb copout like parroting "fake news" after being called out on anything...
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 03:51:55 pm
The Senate doesn't control the State Department. The state dept. is in the Executive branch, not the Legislative branch. The embassies came under Hillary, Secretary of State.
https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2016/oct/07/paul-ryan/state-department-under-hillary-clinton-refused-sec/
Wrong, ( as usual) he got congressional approval. Get over it...
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 04:11:18 pm
Now I'm really gone.
It is your choice, I cannot stop you...
Post by: Realtime on June 29, 2019, 05:32:39 pm
Obama wasn't aware of SEAL team 6 taking out Osama until after it happened.Obama watched live video of bin Laden raid, U.S. official says
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/05/02/bin.laden.video/index.html
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 05:37:47 pm
Obama watched live video of bin Laden raid, U.S. official saysOkay but what I mean is he knew it was going to happen but just not when exactly.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/05/02/bin.laden.video/index.html
Post by: Realtime on June 29, 2019, 05:38:13 pm
No, I didn't like Gadaffi. I was wondering why no congressional approval was needed then but you want it now when Trump wants to do something. It appears hypocritical.Muammar Gaddafi, the deposed leader of Libya, was captured and killed on 20 October 2011 during the Battle of Sirte. Gaddafi was found hiding in a culvert west of Sirte and captured by National Transitional Council forces. He was killed shortly afterwards.
The other embassies weren't denied requested additional security.
He was killed by Libyans__the US didn't get a vote in the action
Post by: Realtime on June 29, 2019, 05:39:43 pm
Okay but what I mean is he knew it was going to happen but just not when exactly.Yet he and others were sitting there watching live time video...
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 05:56:16 pm
Yet he and others were sitting there watching live time video...I know but he didn't know that it was going to be that day or when it was. He knew it was going down soon but wasn't sure what time it would hit. I am sure he probably was informed a few minutes before the hit to see the live video and that is what we all have been shown.
https://www.history.com/news/osama-bin-laden-death-seal-team-six
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 05:58:26 pm
Muammar Gaddafi, the deposed leader of Libya, was captured and killed on 20 October 2011 during the Battle of Sirte. Gaddafi was found hiding in a culvert west of Sirte and captured by National Transitional Council forces. He was killed shortly afterwards.
He was killed by Libyans__the US didn't get a vote in the action
It sure pissed off the GOP because he was one of their boogeymen, who they needed to spook the herd out of their gourd for their vote, was killed. Same way with OBL, the GOP did not want him dead, same reason....
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 06:02:59 pm
It sure pissed off the GOP because he was one of their boogeymen, who they needed to spook the herd out of their gourd for their vote, was killed. Same way with OBL, the GOP did not want him dead, same reason....Didn't they all argue over whether bin Laden was actually killed or not? It seems that arguement went on for a bit.
Post by: Realtime on June 29, 2019, 06:17:15 pm
I know but he didn't know that it was going to be that day or when it was. He knew it was going down soon but wasn't sure what time it would hit. I am sure he probably was informed a few minutes before the hit to see the live video and that is what we all have been shown.After he gave the approval he did not know precisely when the raid would occur, nor for that matter did the guy who actually pulled the trigger on OBL.
https://www.history.com/news/osama-bin-laden-death-seal-team-six
Obama went to the golf course earlier that day to add a sense of normalcy to his own activities and then was in the situation room during the raid__so I'm gonna say that he had a pretty good idea of what was happening.
Post by: Weepy on June 29, 2019, 06:22:39 pm
Didn't they all argue over whether bin Laden was actually killed or not? It seems that arguement went on for a bit.
The clowns I seen, one was Brent "Bozo" Bozell (who writes material for RxUSH and Klownity), who went in a jealous rage over OBL and praised Dubya instead. I dunno about anyone denying it but man they were hot...
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 06:25:51 pm
After he gave the approval he did not know precisely when the raid would occur, nor for that matter did the guy who actually pulled the trigger on OBL.If you will notice in the link I provided that he didn't announce it until later in the night after confirmation that it was bin Laden. I actually know someone who could have taken bin Laden out when Clinton was president and wasn't allowed to do so. He never liked Clinton after that. Lol.
Obama went to the golf course earlier that day to add a sense of normalcy to his own activities and then was in the situation room during the raid__so I'm gonna say that he had a pretty good idea of what was happening.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 29, 2019, 06:26:45 pm
The clowns I seen, one was Brent "Bozo" Bozell (who writes material for RxUSH and Klownity), who went in a jealous rage over OBL and praised Dubya instead. I dunno about anyone denying it but man they were hot...I know they argued over whether it was bin Laden for some bit even though DNA confirmed it was him.
Post by: joanna50 on June 29, 2019, 10:33:03 pm
Didn't they all argue over whether bin Laden was actually killed or not? It seems that arguement went on for a bit.And I still say bin Laden is alive, kinda odd how nothing was shown of him or his demise, you just do go and dump a body in the ocean especially that one. He was the fall guy for 911, our own government was responsible for that horribleness
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 01:37:54 am
Trump will make America great again.About as much as you will I’m sure. Lmao 🤣
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 07:20:01 am
And I still say bin Laden is alive, kinda odd how nothing was shown of him or his demise, you just do go and dump a body in the ocean especially that one. He was the fall guy for 911, our own government was responsible for that horriblenessThey chose to not disclose the pictures of Osama being dead at the president's order. DNA confirmed it was him and also a SEAL team 6 member confirmed it also. Although he had no respect for us, Obama had enough respect to follow the customs of how burial is done with them. It is a little hard to deny it was him when DNA tests confirmed it was .
Post by: joanna50 on June 30, 2019, 09:59:21 am
They chose to not disclose the pictures of Osama being dead at the president's order. DNA confirmed it was him and also a SEAL team 6 member confirmed it also. Although he had no respect for us, Obama had enough respect to follow the customs of how burial is done with them. It is a little hard to deny it was him when DNA tests confirmed it was .You cant believe the government and since when is it their culture to dump a body in the ocean, and is this the same seal teal member who wrote a book, I doubt he is credible, Obama has more respect than Trump does
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 10:08:10 am
You cant believe the government and since when is it their culture to dump a body in the ocean, and is this the same seal teal member who wrote a book, I doubt he is credible, Obama has more respect than Trump doesI can when Obama was the one who got the DNA confirmation that it was Osama and I believe it was confirmed by many that it was him. It is not in a seal team person to lie past or present. It goes against their training.
This tells why it was a burial at sea.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/11/2012112243823204328.html
Post by: Weepy on June 30, 2019, 10:08:54 am
And I still say bin Laden is alive, kinda odd how nothing was shown of him or his demise, you just do go and dump a body in the ocean especially that one. He was the fall guy for 911, our own government was responsible for that horribleness
I used to believe he was already dead during the Dubya years and the dude on the screen during that era was about as much an actor for AQ as Colonel Sanders was for KFC after 1964...
I got a lot of doubts about things too Joanna, dunno if they are the same exact things as yours but I do understand where you are coming from...
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 10:10:29 am
I used to believe he was already dead during the Dubya years and the dude on the screen during that era was about as much an actor for AQ as Colonel Sanders was for KFC after 1964...I believe he is dead. DNA confirmed it and several DNA tests were done.
I got a lot of doubts about things too Joanna, dunno if they are the same exact things as yours but I do understand where you are coming from...
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 10:42:22 am
Wrong, ( as usual) he got congressional approval. Get over it...
My apologies. I thought you mentioned something about Benghazi.
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 10:53:32 am
Muammar Gaddafi, the deposed leader of Libya, was captured and killed on 20 October 2011 during the Battle of Sirte. Gaddafi was found hiding in a culvert west of Sirte and captured by National Transitional Council forces. He was killed shortly afterwards.
He was killed by Libyans__the US didn't get a vote in the action
I believe the subject was the overall US involvement.
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 11:03:57 am
Actually it was approved but your retards do not know how Senate procedure works but that is another story...
If you're talking about the bombing of Libya. There was no congressional approval and he didn't have to under the War Powers Act. I don't like it whether Obama or Trump uses it. I think it goes against the original intent of the constitution and leads to an imperial presidency.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/how-obama-ignored-congress-and-misled-america-on-war-in-libya/262299/
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 11:08:47 am
You sad over Gadaffi taken out? I had no idea he was an idol of yours. Your party never cared anyway, they overdramatized an embassy bombing that killed four people for political puposes caused by a GOP controled congress who refused to pay for their security after being requested. 10 times more people died in embassy bombings in the GWB and Reagan admins but "those were didferent blah blah blah" according to teabaggers..,
Oops, looks like Weepy did mention embassies.
I'll say it again, those other embassies weren't denied requested security.
https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2016/oct/07/paul-ryan/state-department-under-hillary-clinton-refused-sec/
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 11:55:45 am
And I still say bin Laden is alive, kinda odd how nothing was shown of him or his demise, you just do go and dump a body in the ocean especially that one. He was the fall guy for 911, our own government was responsible for that horriblenessI very much agree! And did they ever show his body? No. Not one picture was ever offered or put forward. Why? Obama was obviously lying that’s why. He was only finishing what the Bush family wanted done just as this administration is doing their bidding as well. I trust not one of them.
Post by: Weepy on June 30, 2019, 11:57:17 am
Oops, looks like Weepy did mention embassies.
I'll say it again, those other embassies weren't denied requested security.
https://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2016/oct/07/paul-ryan/state-department-under-hillary-clinton-refused-sec/
Benghazi was, during the Boner and Can'tor days, before the incident occured...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 12:03:56 pm
Benghazi was, during the Boner and Can'tor days, before the incident occured...
It was supposed to limit presidential power because congress supposedly was worried that they were being faded out by the president. I however don’t buy into all of this because presidents are still doing anything they want and without congressional declarations of war. Lies is all we’re fed and I for one am fed up with most of them.
https://legaldictionary.net/war-powers-act/
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 12:09:59 pm
I very much agree! And did they ever show his body? No. Not one picture was ever offered or put forward. Why? Obama was obviously lying that’s why. He was only finishing what the Bush family wanted done just as this administration is doing their bidding as well. I trust not one of them.Have to disagree with you in this one. It is a little hard to dispute DNA evidence and what Obama and heads of the U.S. cabinet and military saw.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 12:17:11 pm
Have to disagree with you in this one. It is a little hard to dispute DNA evidence and what Obama and heads of the U.S. cabinet and military saw.So where is all that evidence? Was it from their “memories”? Not buying it. Not an ounce on any one of their stories when the people have been asking for those photos of his dead body. Have you seen any of them? - just one? No? No.
That’s why I don’t buy into our governments stories of utter bullsh!t. Sorry.
Post by: Weepy on June 30, 2019, 12:18:09 pm
It was supposed to limit presidential power because congress supposedly was worried that they were being faded out by the president. I however don’t buy into all of this because presidents are still doing anything they want and without congressional declarations of war. Lies is all we’re fed and I for one am fed up with most of them.
https://legaldictionary.net/war-powers-act/
???
I am not talking about the dckaration of war itself, talking about the Benghazi attack itself. They asked for protection and the Boner led house refused funds for protection instead went on a half decade propoganda effort to take down Hillary Clinton thus giving this country a bonehead in charge...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 12:36:40 pm
???I was only giving an example and misunderstood. My apologies. However, we are both correct.
I am not talking about the dckaration of war itself, talking about the Benghazi attack itself. They asked for protection and the Boner led house refused funds for protection instead went on a half decade propoganda effort to take down Hillary Clinton thus giving this country a bonehead in charge...
Boner was a lying Christian hypocrite as most of them are, as they only come with the agenda of the super rich from our nation to other countries and their leaders. Our government is not longer for the people and are totally in this for themselves. They have made a mockery of what our founding fathers wanted.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 12:40:38 pm
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 12:42:37 pm
So where is all that evidence? Was it from their “memories”? Not buying it. Not an ounce on any one of their stories when the people have been asking for those photos of his dead body. Have you seen any of them? - just one? No? No.The evidence was shown to them and they chose to not show the graphic pics of the death. Sometimes you just have to believe in unseen things. If he was still alive, he would be committing some heinous crimes and he isn't.
That’s why I don’t buy into our governments stories of utter bullsh!t. Sorry.
Post by: Weepy on June 30, 2019, 12:55:00 pm
All of this went bad from the Nixon administration to worse with the Bush administration. And that is no joke.
The entire GWB admin cabinet and primary lackeys got their start under the Dick Nixon admin...
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 12:56:31 pm
???
I am not talking about the dckaration of war itself, talking about the Benghazi attack itself. They asked for protection and the Boner led house refused funds for protection instead went on a half decade propoganda effort to take down Hillary Clinton thus giving this country a bonehead in charge...
That's not what Charlene Lamb testified at the Benghazi hearings. Budget cuts had nothing to do with her decision. In the end, she had to resign because of her screw up.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 12:58:02 pm
The evidence was shown to them and they chose to not show the graphic pics of the death. Sometimes you just have to believe in unseen things. If he was still alive, he would be committing some heinous crimes and he isn't.Do you actually think that there aren’t people here that can take that supposed “graphic evidence” of theirs? You’d be wrong about that, as I for one would've loved to see his dead body, but there was far too much that didn’t add up to our governments involvement in an obvious coverup. I simply don’t buy an ounce of their stories because if you can recall the Bush administration were well known liars that would always say one thing and do the exact opposite. So ask yourself again why I don’t buy not one ounce of their stories.
So how do you know he’s not still alive when they haven’t even shown you his dead body?
Lies is all we’re fed.
The Bush family is very much in bed with the Saudi Arabian government cause they used to go and watch beheadings when invited by the Saudi government. That’s why I don’t buy none of their so-called “evidence”. Not when we know how corrupt they are. Nope, not buying it.
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 01:03:10 pm
Benghazi was, during the Boner and Can'tor days, before the incident occured...
What Benghazi are you talking about? The Benghazi consulate attack happened when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State.
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 01:09:29 pm
Do you actually think that there aren’t people here that can take that supposed “graphic evidence” of theirs? You’d be wrong about that, as I for one would've loved to see his dead body, but there was far too much that didn’t add up to our governments involvement in an obvious coverup. I simply don’t buy an ounce of their stories because if you can recall the Bush administration were well known liars that would always say one thing and do the exact opposite. So ask yourself again why I don’t buy not one ounce of their stories.
So how do you know he’s not still alive when they haven’t even shown you his dead body?
Lies is all we’re fed.
The Bush family is very much in bed with the Saudi Arabian government cause they used to go and watch beheadings when invited by the Saudi government. That’s why I don’t buy none of their so-called “evidence”. Not when we know how corrupt they are. Nope, not buying it.
Huh?? Bush admin were liars so the Obama Admin are liars too?
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 01:12:37 pm
Huh?? Bush admin were liars so the Obama Admin are liars too?Yup. Why am I not surprised you didn’t know. 🙄
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 01:13:44 pm
Do you actually think that there aren’t people here that can take that supposed “graphic evidence” of theirs? You’d be wrong about that, as I for one would've loved to see his dead body, but there was far too much that didn’t add up to our governments involvement in an obvious coverup. I simply don’t buy an ounce of their stories because if you can recall the Bush administration were well known liars that would always say one thing and do the exact opposite. So ask yourself again why I don’t buy not one ounce of their stories.I am going with the belief that several Seal Team 6 members saw him dead and reported his death. It is against their training to lie.
So how do you know he’s not still alive when they haven’t even shown you his dead body?
Lies is all we’re fed.
The Bush family is very much in bed with the Saudi Arabian government cause they used to go and watch beheadings when invited by the Saudi government. That’s why I don’t buy none of their so-called “evidence”. Not when we know how corrupt they are. Nope, not buying it.
Post by: Weepy on June 30, 2019, 01:16:57 pm
What Benghazi are you talking about? The Benghazi consulate attack happened when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State.
No schidt Sherlock... ::)
It was only like the 18th worst embassy attack in history and there is evidence Boner and Co refused Amb Stevens request for funds for security, in which was the responsibility of the House of Reprentatives. Stevens family believes you and your party are mentally retarded for politicizing his death for political gain...
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 01:19:56 pm
No schidt Sherlock... ::)
It was only like the 18th worst embassy attack in history and there is evidence aboner and Co refused Amb Stevens request for funds for security. Stevens family believes you and your party are mentally retarded for politicizing his death for political gain...
Stevens asked for funds? What are you smoking?
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 01:21:21 pm
Yup. Why am I not surprised you didn’t know. 🙄
And, you want these people to run your healthcare and college tuitions? Not logical.
Post by: Realtime on June 30, 2019, 01:23:56 pm
If you're talking about the bombing of Libya. There was no congressional approval and he didn't have to under the War Powers Act. I don't like it whether Obama or Trump uses it. I think it goes against the original intent of the constitution and leads to an imperial presidency.Obama had UN approval, France rightly lead the way.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/how-obama-ignored-congress-and-misled-america-on-war-in-libya/262299/
And this Two days after the U.N. acted, the United States and other NATO countries, including Britain and France, enforced a no-fly zone over Libya by Gadhafi’s air force while starting to bomb his assets. Seven months later, in October 2011, after a military offensive backed by a group of Western powers, rebel forces conquered the North African country, located Gadhafi and killed him.
According to Alan J. Kuperman, writing in the March-April 2015 issue of Foreign Affairs: “Not only did Gadhafi endanger the momentum of the nascent Arab Spring, which had recently swept away authoritarian regimes in Tunisia and Egypt, but he also was poised to commit a bloodbath in the Libyan city where the uprising had started.”
Obama declared: “We knew that if we waited one more day, Benghazi—a city nearly the size of Charlotte—could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world.” In the Rose Garden speech after Gadhafi’s death, Obama noted, “Without putting a single U.S. service member on the ground, we achieved our objectives.”
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 01:27:26 pm
Obama had UN approval, France rightly lead the way.
And this Two days after the U.N. acted, the United States and other NATO countries, including Britain and France, enforced a no-fly zone over Libya by Gadhafi’s air force while starting to bomb his assets. Seven months later, in October 2011, after a military offensive backed by a group of Western powers, rebel forces conquered the North African country, located Gadhafi and killed him.
According to Alan J. Kuperman, writing in the March-April 2015 issue of Foreign Affairs: “Not only did Gadhafi endanger the momentum of the nascent Arab Spring, which had recently swept away authoritarian regimes in Tunisia and Egypt, but he also was poised to commit a bloodbath in the Libyan city where the uprising had started.”
Obama declared: “We knew that if we waited one more day, Benghazi—a city nearly the size of Charlotte—could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world.” In the Rose Garden speech after Gadhafi’s death, Obama noted, “Without putting a single U.S. service member on the ground, we achieved our objectives.”
That's right. The problem is the UN doesn't run this country.
Post by: Weepy on June 30, 2019, 01:39:38 pm
That's right. The problem is the UN doesn't run this country.
But we repect them, teabaggers do not. They only respect soundbites from those acting tough like the two dumbest Republican presidents in US history. Teabaggers stopped respected them when they did not approve of Dubya's war of choice in Iraq and slandered countries like France because of their objection of Dubs playing cowboy...
Post by: Realtime on June 30, 2019, 01:49:41 pm
Stevens asked for funds? What are you smoking?Did he?
A. Stevens should never have been in Benghazi that week but having been there many times before he felt comfortable, as though he was among old friends.
B. Benghazi was not an embassy but an embassy outpost aka an annex and what little security did exist there was in no way trustworthy.
C. Two State Department personnel died as a result of the attack on the annex, the ambassador and Sean Smith a data specialist. The two others that were killed were military contractors who died defending a nearby CIA base.
D. Special agent Scott Strickland, who was Ambassador Stevens security guard on that day and the only eyewitness within the annex to the initial attack was never called to testify during the Benghazi public or behind closed door hearings.
E. It was eventually learned that Paula Broadwell of David Petraeus fame shared that the Benghazi CIA base was being used as a jail setting up the likely theory that it was the actual target of the attacks and was a black ops facility.
Post by: Realtime on June 30, 2019, 01:58:59 pm
That's right. The problem is the UN doesn't run this country.France lead the way, we, the Brits and others merely assisted__that makes a huge difference.
You may recall that years earlier, Bush I set out to kill Gaddafi and almost succeeded on no more than a whim.
WiKi The 1986 United States bombing of Libya, code-named Operation El Dorado Canyon, comprised air strikes by the United States against Libya on Tuesday, the 15 April 1986. The attack was carried out by the U.S. Air Force, U.S. Navy and U.S. Marine Corps via air strikes, in retaliation for the 1986 West Berlin discotheque bombing. There were 40 reported Libyan casualties, and one U.S. plane was shot down.
Post by: Realtime on June 30, 2019, 02:28:15 pm
I am going with the belief that several Seal Team 6 members saw him dead and reported his death. It is against their training to lie.As well as the helo crews, the medics who took the DNA wrapped him for burial at sea and all the other sailors aboard that ship__and all their relatives and friends.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 03:04:44 pm
I am going with the belief that several Seal Team 6 members saw him dead and reported his death. It is against their training to lie.They answer to the president and can he ordered them to secrecy, and if they tell anyone, they can be tried on federal crimes. That is a fact. Do you deny this?
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 03:07:29 pm
And, you want these people to run your healthcare and college tuitions? Not logical.Why not? I see that all big businesses do is take advantage of the general public. Why are you against the general public having good healthcare and college tuitions that don’t bleed them and their parents for generations?
Post by: Sprocket on June 30, 2019, 03:16:05 pm
Why not? I see that all big businesses do is take advantage of the general public. Why are you against the general public having good healthcare and college tuitions that don’t bleed them and their parents for generations?Purple Lady denied your manhood.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 03:21:26 pm
Purple Lady denied your manhood.And I deny your obvious trouble making, you blowhard.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 03:24:56 pm
They answer to the president and can he ordered them to secrecy, and if they tell anyone, they can be tried on federal crimes. That is a fact. Do you deny this?I don't deny that but too many people saw that it was him. No way, would they keep that a secret.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 03:26:02 pm
And I deny your obvious trouble making, you blowhard.Some people don't get that some people can disagree and still be friends.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 03:27:18 pm
Some people don't get that some people can disagree and still be friends.So are you saying that was you speaking?
I am still your friend even if we agree to disagree.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 03:28:21 pm
So are you saying that was you speaking?No, this the only account I have. I just meant that Sprocket is trying to play divide and conquer.
I am still your friend even if we agree to disagree.
Post by: Sprocket on June 30, 2019, 03:29:54 pm
And I deny your obvious trouble making, you blowhard.Ya big crybaby, you can dish it but you can't take it....
Sprocket ^^^
You have been banned and you are not welcome here. Stop using other poster's names or any variation of their names. You're making yourself look even more ridiculous than usual.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 03:36:31 pm
I don't deny that but too many people saw that it was him. No way, would they keep that a secret.Tell that to the female general that was removed by Bush when he blamed her for ordering the troops to treat Iraqi detainees who were putting them in homosexual pileups and we all know exactly where those orders came from. The very top. Bush and Cheney, that’s who.
Bush’s own father stated that his son did lots of things that he should have apologized for and said that in any administration the buck stops at the president. Period.
Perhaps you were never aware of this?
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 03:38:05 pm
Ya big crybaby, you can dish it but you can't take it....We are done, ****.
D o u c h e b a g
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 03:40:23 pm
Tell that to the female general that was removed by Bush when he blamed her for ordering the troops to treat Iraqi detainees who were putting them in homosexual pileups and we all know exactly where those orders came from. The very top. Bush and Cheney, that’s who.Several people who weren't under any kind of federal secrecy saw it was him. I know someone who knows a person who served on SEAL team 6 and if he says Osama was killed than I believe him. No one can keep a secret like that no matter how many want it done it just isn't possible.
Bush’s own father stated that his son did lots of things that he should have apologized for and said that in any administration the buck stops at the president. Period.
Perhaps you were never aware of this?
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 03:42:17 pm
We are done, ****.Someone wants to be a big trouble maker and play divide and conquer with people. They don't realize that people can disagree and still be friends. Or that they can be reported for trying to use your name as part of theirs.
D o u c h e b a g
Post by: Jackie on June 30, 2019, 03:42:24 pm
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The military isn't going to tell everything for fear other countries would try and steal plans. That is common knowledge to keep some things hush hush.
This makes sense.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 03:43:05 pm
Several people who weren't under any kind of federal secrecy saw it was him. I know someone who knows a person who served on SEAL team 6 and if he says Osama was killed than I believe him. No one can keep a secret like that no matter how many want it done it just isn't possible.Than what are they afraid to show? I don’t buy into this not unless I have verification as well as many more Americans want the same. We need proof and not something from someone who says they have a friend that heard it from a friend who intern heard it from a friend, as that is all hearsay.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 03:44:09 pm
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 03:44:20 pm
This makes sense.It should. I was on an active Navy ship this past spring. First order of business was we had to lock all our cell phones up and cameras had to be turned off. We got our cell phones back when we departed the carrier and our cameras were checked to make sure that no pics were taken.
Post by: Jackie on June 30, 2019, 03:45:00 pm
About as much as you will I’m sure. Lmao 🤣
I try to do my part in my little corner of the world.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 03:45:22 pm
Than what are they afraid to show? I don’t buy into this not unless I have verification as well as many more Americans want the same. We need proof and not something from someone who says they have a friend that heard it from a friend who intern heard it from a friend, as that is all hearsay.Sorry, but seeing as how my friend is a high ranking Navy official, I will take his word of his friend who is and was a seal member.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 03:46:24 pm
Any actual court of law would throw that out as far as evidence is considered.I don't think a court would throw out since they have the President's word on it. I mean it wouldn't do then much good to go against the President.
Post by: Sprocket on June 30, 2019, 03:48:56 pm
Someone wants to be a big trouble maker and play divide and conquer with people. They don't realize that people can disagree and still be friends. Or that they can be reported for trying to use your name as part of theirs.Divide and conquer? God dammit I'm stooopid ...wish I could find a job.
Post by: Jackie on June 30, 2019, 03:49:02 pm
It should. I was on an active Navy ship this past spring. First order of business was we had to lock all our cell phones up and cameras had to be turned off. We got our cell phones back when we departed the carrier and our cameras were checked to make sure that bo pics were taken.
Sounds like a good idea. A woman in the Navy, that's impressive! Nowadays I guess this isn't heard of. Power to all women!
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 03:51:00 pm
Sounds like a good idea. A woman in the Navy, that's impressive! Nowadays I guess this isn't heard of. Power to all women!I am not in the Navy nor have I served but was there with an ROTC group. They allowed our school group to have a tour on an active ship which is unusual but it was fun or was until a storm came up and we had to wait for it to blow over on the ship. Thanks for the compliment and many women do serve but I wouldn't have been eligible as I am too flat footed.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 03:53:34 pm
Sorry, but seeing as how my friend is a high ranking Navy official, I will take his word of his friend who is and was a seal member.Same. Sorry that I don’t buy into all the stories our government says is true, or were you ever aware that this same government is responsible for more than one tragedy to include but not limited to Iraq being blamed by Bush for the 9/11/01 attack when that was actually done by the Shrub administration itself and not by any outsider. That’s a fact.
Ask yourself this: why was Bush 1 so into Obama when the rest of the republican congress wasn’t? Why was Obama’s polices very much the same as Bush’s? Why did the Bush administration allow the Saudi family leave the country without being questioned by the FBI?
Because they are all guilty as hell and most Americans knows it. That’s why.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 03:54:58 pm
Same. Sorry that I don’t buy into all the stories our government says is true, or were you ever aware that this same government is responsible for more than one tragedy to include but not limited to Iraq being blamed by Bush for the 9/11/01 attack when that was actually done by the Shrub administration itself and not by any outsider. That’s a fact.Or it could be that Obama and Bush both thought along the same lines, who knows?
Ask yourself this: why was Bush 1 so into Obama when the rest of the republican congress wasn’t? Why was Obama’s polices very much the same as Bush’s? Why did the Bush administration allow the Saudi family leave the country without being questioned by the FBI?
Because they are all guilty as hell and most Americans knows it. That’s why.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 03:57:54 pm
Or it could be that Obama and Bush both thought along the same lines, who knows?The only way that happens is if they are in this together. Bush 1 was praising Obama a lot, and the only way Bush 2 got away with what he did is because he had plenty of enablers. No one carries that kind of “luck”.
Post by: Jackie on June 30, 2019, 03:58:15 pm
Same. Sorry that I don’t buy into all the stories our government says is true, or were you ever aware that this same government is responsible for more than one tragedy to include but not limited to Iraq being blamed by Bush for the 9/11/01 attack when that was actually done by the Shrub administration itself and not by any outsider. That’s a fact.
Ask yourself this: why was Bush 1 so into Obama when the rest of the republican congress wasn’t? Why was Obama’s polices very much the same as Bush’s? Why did the Bush administration allow the Saudi family leave the country without being questioned by the FBI?
Because they are all guilty as hell and most Americans knows it. That’s why.
I remember when Bush was reading a childs book about a goat when he was told of the 911 attacks, he hesitated a bit.
Post by: Jackie on June 30, 2019, 03:59:01 pm
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 03:59:19 pm
The only way that happens is if they are in this together. Bush 1 was praising Obama a lot, and the only way Bush 2 got away with what he did is because he had plenty of enablers. No one carries that kind of “luck”.I don't know, I think some politicians get along and have similar ideas like others more than people know or give them credit for getting along or being alike.
Post by: Jackie on June 30, 2019, 03:59:48 pm
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 04:00:13 pm
I remember when Bush was reading a childs book about a goat when he was told of the 911 attacks, he hesitated a bit.For over seven minutes.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 04:05:53 pm
For over seven minutes.I thought I read where he continued reading because he did not want to scare or upset the kids if he acted harshly or reacted and scared the kids. I would say that he showed more reserve than most of us would have around kids.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 04:06:01 pm
I don't know, I think some politicians get along and have similar ideas like others more than people know or give them credit for getting along or being alike.The wealthy of our country and other countries is who controls them. At least most of them. Why do you think we even have these policies? Because people in Washington DC are accepting lots of outside money. So ask yourself why Obama was the same? Obama went to Harvard University the same as the Bush’s. So ask yourself why they had pretty much the same policies?
Your answer is there.
Obama was paid off to do the Bush family bidding.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 04:09:03 pm
The wealthy of our country and other countries is who controls them. At least most of them. Why do you think we even have these policies? Because people in Washington DC are accepting lots of outside money. So ask yourself why Obama was the same? Obama went to Harvard University the same as the Bush’s. So ask yourself why they had pretty much the same policies?Only thing is Obama got his JD from Harvard. He went to Occidental and Columbia for his undergrad. If they were going to pay him to do his bidding they would have paid for him to go to Yale like Bush did.
Your answer is there.
Obama was paid off to do the Bush family bidding.
Post by: Jackie on June 30, 2019, 04:09:15 pm
For over seven minutes.
Yeah that sounds about right, 7 minutes before action.
Post by: Jackie on June 30, 2019, 04:09:53 pm
I thought I read where he continued reading because he did not want to scare or upset the kids if he acted harshly or reacted and scared the kids. I would say that he showed more reserve than most of us would have around kids.
OMG! I heard that to in the news.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 04:10:36 pm
I thought I read where he continued reading because he did not want to scare or upset the kids if he acted harshly or reacted and scared the kids. I would say that he showed more reserve than most of us would have around kids.No. We all sat there and watched him as he remained in utter silence.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 04:12:09 pm
No. We all sat there and watched him as he remained in utter silence.What did you expect him to do, jump up and scare the kids? Sorry but he probably was shocked at what happened and couldn't just scare a small child. I think he did better than most of us in that situation who would have jumped up and scared kids.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 04:12:27 pm
Yeah that sounds about right, 7 minutes before action.You mean it was 7 minutes before he and Cheney went into hiding. Both are cowards who were tell others to do things they obviously wouldn’t do. You know, like giving service to our country?
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 04:13:08 pm
What did you expect him to do, jump up and scare the kids? Sorry but he probably was shocked at what happened and couldn't just scare a small child. I think he did better than most of us in that situation who would have jumped up and scared kids.This got me chuckling! 🤣
Post by: Jackie on June 30, 2019, 04:13:11 pm
The wealthy of our country and other countries is who controls them. At least most of them. Why do you think we even have these policies? Because people in Washington DC are accepting lots of outside money. So ask yourself why Obama was the same? Obama went to Harvard University the same as the Bush’s. So ask yourself why they had pretty much the same policies?
Your answer is there.
Obama was paid off to do the Bush family bidding.
As George Carlin says, it's the big corporations that run the show. But if you look on the bright side, the little people buy products from these corporation, So actually it's the little people that run the show.
Post by: Jackie on June 30, 2019, 04:14:11 pm
No. We all sat there and watched him as he remained in utter silence.
I remember that, must of been a good book!
Post by: Jackie on June 30, 2019, 04:14:50 pm
What did you expect him to do, jump up and scare the kids? Sorry but he probably was shocked at what happened and couldn't just scare a small child. I think he did better than most of us in that situation who would have jumped up and scared kids.
OUCH!!!!! That's crazy!
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 30, 2019, 04:15:35 pm
As George Carlin says, it's the big corporations that run the show. But if you look on the bright side, the little people buy products from these corporation, So actually it's the little people that run the show.How do when our so-called “leaders” are hand picked by those large corrupt corporations? That will never reflect our republic, as they are very much like a dictatorship.
Post by: Jackie on June 30, 2019, 04:16:21 pm
What did you expect him to do, jump up and scare the kids? Sorry but he probably was shocked at what happened and couldn't just scare a small child. I think he did better than most of us in that situation who would have jumped up and scared kids.
He could of easily left the room quietly and go on about his duty, you just don't sit there as an attack is happening, JEEZ!
Post by: Texas Pete on June 30, 2019, 04:17:04 pm
We are done, ****.Sprocket got lonely on his forum with all his socks.
D o u c h e b a g
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 04:17:39 pm
OUCH!!!!! That's crazy!Why because he didn't jump up and do something right away and scare the kids? It is easy to scare young kids in these days and times and him continuing to read or sit in silence was one way of not scaring kids.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 04:18:45 pm
He could of easily left the room quietly and go on about his duty, you just don't sit there as an attack is happening, JEEZ!Want to bet and scare the kids when he left in a rush? I have worked with kids and they sense fear in people just like animals. Young kids especially do.
Post by: Jackie on June 30, 2019, 04:18:57 pm
You mean it was 7 minutes before he and Cheney went into hiding. Both are cowards who were tell others to do things they obviously wouldn’t do. You know, like giving service to our country?
Well, I don't know anything about that, and don't want to point fingers. I just thought that that was odd that Bush just sat there reading a childs book about a goat as an attack was going on.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 04:19:16 pm
Sprocket got lonely on his forum with all his socks.Doesn't he always and with conspiracy theories also? Lol
Post by: Jackie on June 30, 2019, 04:22:10 pm
How do when our so-called “leaders” are hand picked by those large corrupt corporations? That will never reflect our republic, as they are very much like a dictatorship.
Well they do fund their campaigns.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 04:22:27 pm
Well, I don't know anything about that, and don't want to point fingers. I just thought that that was odd that Bush just sat there reading a childs book about a goat as an attack was going on.I imagine the book was picked put beforehand for him to read as common in most schools for teachers and students to pick out books for others to read to them. That book is a common reading book used in reading exercises.
Post by: Weepy on June 30, 2019, 04:22:52 pm
Sprocket got lonely on his forum with all his socks.
That makes sense. He is a very dumb individual as much as he is bitter.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 04:24:13 pm
That makes sense. He is a very dumb individual as much as he is bitter.Yep.along with conspiracy theories
Post by: Icno on June 30, 2019, 04:26:55 pm
Sprocket got lonely on his forum with all his socks.Actually, I think they started making fun of him.
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 04:27:43 pm
Actually, I think they started making fun of him.Howdy ICNO!! Staying cool?
Post by: Jackie on June 30, 2019, 04:28:53 pm
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUlNK59AMBQ
The little people are like ants, they preserve.
Post by: Weepy on June 30, 2019, 04:29:07 pm
Why because he didn't jump up and do something right away and scare the kids? It is easy to scare young kids in these days and times and him continuing to read or sit in silence was one way of not scaring kids.
In a situation like that Andy Card should have had him rushed out immediately no matter what. That image became his official "portrait" so to speak and defined his presidency in spite of it being 9 months in. Katrina and his "heck of a job Brownie" , nearly at the same time during his second term, was the crushing blow to his credibility and he drifted the rest of the way...
Post by: purplelady1040 on June 30, 2019, 04:32:51 pm
In a situation like that Andy Card should have had him rushed out immediately no matter what. That image became his official "portrait" so to speak and defined his presidency in spite of it being 9 months in. Katrina and his "heck of a job Brownie" , nearly at the same time during his second term, was the crushing blow to his credibility and he drifted the rest of the way...Maybe so but it could have possibly have scared the kids rushing him out. Young kids scare easily.
Post by: Sprocket The Virgin on June 30, 2019, 04:34:44 pm
Sprocket got lonely on his forum with all his socks.Not as lonely as my bedroom lol
Post by: Quills on June 30, 2019, 06:12:46 pm
The list of spelling words the teacher was giving her students on 9/11 were: Kite, hit, steel, plane, must, the teacher goes "Get ready!" after each word!
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 08:27:27 pm
But we repect them, teabaggers do not. They only respect soundbites from those acting tough like the two dumbest Republican presidents in US history. Teabaggers stopped respected them when they did not approve of Dubya's war of choice in Iraq and slandered countries like France because of their objection of Dubs playing cowboy...
The UN is not our government. The people's representatives in the House have the say. It's the people who are going to give up their sons and daughters.
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 08:31:07 pm
Did he?
A. Stevens should never have been in Benghazi that week but having been there many times before he felt comfortable, as though he was among old friends.
B. Benghazi was not an embassy but an embassy outpost aka an annex and what little security did exist there was in no way trustworthy.
C. Two State Department personnel died as a result of the attack on the annex, the ambassador and Sean Smith a data specialist. The two others that were killed were military contractors who died defending a nearby CIA base.
D. Special agent Scott Strickland, who was Ambassador Stevens security guard on that day and the only eyewitness within the annex to the initial attack was never called to testify during the Benghazi public or behind closed door hearings.
E. It was eventually learned that Paula Broadwell of David Petraeus fame shared that the Benghazi CIA base was being used as a jail setting up the likely theory that it was the actual target of the attacks and was a black ops facility.
Weepy says he did.
I don't disagree it was a viable target. Jail setting? Anything is possible I guess. I know the contractors were there to recover Gaddafi's shoulder fired surface to air missiles.
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 08:37:30 pm
France lead the way, we, the Brits and others merely assisted__that makes a huge difference.
You may recall that years earlier, Bush I set out to kill Gaddafi and almost succeeded on no more than a whim.
WiKi The 1986 United States bombing of Libya, code-named Operation El Dorado Canyon, comprised air strikes by the United States against Libya on Tuesday, the 15 April 1986. The attack was carried out by the U.S. Air Force, U.S. Navy and U.S. Marine Corps via air strikes, in retaliation for the 1986 West Berlin discotheque bombing. There were 40 reported Libyan casualties, and one U.S. plane was shot down.
The subject was congressional approval. I don't know if there was an approval or notification in the 1986 bombing. It's ironic France denied air space for that raid.
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 08:40:03 pm
Why not? I see that all big businesses do is take advantage of the general public. Why are you against the general public having good healthcare and college tuitions that don’t bleed them and their parents for generations?
A hypothetical, would you be okay waiting longer for an MRI while a campaign donor moves ahead of you? Just sayin'. It is the government after all. You have choices in the private market.
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 08:46:28 pm
Than what are they afraid to show? I don’t buy into this not unless I have verification as well as many more Americans want the same. We need proof and not something from someone who says they have a friend that heard it from a friend who intern heard it from a friend, as that is all hearsay.
My opinion is they didn't want to make a big martyr and rallying cry out of him. He just simply disappeared.
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 08:53:38 pm
I am not in the Navy nor have I served but was there with an ROTC group. They allowed our school group to have a tour on an active ship which is unusual but it was fun or was until a storm came up and we had to wait for it to blow over on the ship. Thanks for the compliment and many women do serve but I wouldn't have been eligible as I am too flat footed.
A heartfelt congrats, Purplelady.
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 08:58:12 pm
Same. Sorry that I don’t buy into all the stories our government says is true, or were you ever aware that this same government is responsible for more than one tragedy to include but not limited to Iraq being blamed by Bush for the 9/11/01 attack when that was actually done by the Shrub administration itself and not by any outsider. That’s a fact.
Ask yourself this: why was Bush 1 so into Obama when the rest of the republican congress wasn’t? Why was Obama’s polices very much the same as Bush’s? Why did the Bush administration allow the Saudi family leave the country without being questioned by the FBI?
Because they are all guilty as hell and most Americans knows it. That’s why.
Lol!! You sound like Trump.
https://www.politico.com/blogs/south-carolina-primary-2016-live-updates-and-results/2016/02/gop-debate-2016-trump-911-219260
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 09:03:14 pm
What did you expect him to do, jump up and scare the kids? Sorry but he probably was shocked at what happened and couldn't just scare a small child. I think he did better than most of us in that situation who would have jumped up and scared kids.
Agree, gathering his thought also.
Post by: Teaman on June 30, 2019, 09:05:12 pm
How do when our so-called “leaders” are hand picked by those large corrupt corporations? That will never reflect our republic, as they are very much like a dictatorship.
Who handpicked Obama?
Post by: purplelady1040 on July 01, 2019, 06:53:45 am
A hypothetical, would you be okay waiting longer for an MRI while a campaign donor moves ahead of you? Just sayin'. It is the government after all. You have choices in the private market.Most people can't afford the high prices of health insurance that is out there.
Post by: Realtime on July 01, 2019, 08:15:10 am
Weepy says he did.So the story goes. Woods was SEAL qualified medic working at the CIA base as a contractor, Doherty was a SEAL qualified member of the CIA's global response team stationed in Tripoli who hopped a plane to Benghazi and was killed shortly after arriving at the CIA base. Neither man had anything to do with the State Department or Hillary Clinton.
I don't disagree it was a viable target. Jail setting? Anything is possible I guess. I know the contractors were there to recover Gaddafi's shoulder fired surface to air missiles.
Scott Strickland was never called to testify in Trey Gowdy's bogus hearings but he did testify at the trial of Abu Khattala the so called mastermind of the Benghazi attacks. Interesting stuff although Rush/FOX skipped it as it didn't fit into their Benghazi playbook.
Khattala was acquitted on the murder charges but convicted of terrorism and sentenced to 22 years.
Post by: Weepy on July 01, 2019, 09:23:37 am
Post by: purplelady1040 on July 01, 2019, 09:40:07 am
In three days Twitler will hold a "parade" to celebrate himself. On the National Mall. Something tells me it will be full of comedy relief as he is only inviting his supporters, which means there should be a huge picture of empty real estate just like his inauguration showed....He probably will show like there is a ton of people there when we all know that won't be true. Lol
Post by: Teaman on July 01, 2019, 10:32:59 am
So the story goes. Woods was SEAL qualified medic working at the CIA base as a contractor, Doherty was a SEAL qualified member of the CIA's global response team stationed in Tripoli who hopped a plane to Benghazi and was killed shortly after arriving at the CIA base. Neither man had anything to do with the State Department or Hillary Clinton.
Scott Strickland was never called to testify in Trey Gowdy's bogus hearings but he did testify at the trial of Abu Khattala the so called mastermind of the Benghazi attacks. Interesting stuff although Rush/FOX skipped it as it didn't fit into their Benghazi playbook.
Khattala was acquitted on the murder charges but convicted of terrorism and sentenced to 22 years.
Not disputing anything you said. All true. The problem was Stevens requested more security at the consulate and was denied. That is the state department. The contractors got involved rescuing the personnel at the consulate.
Post by: Realtime on July 01, 2019, 10:36:21 am
In three days Twitler will hold a "parade" to celebrate himself. On the National Mall. Something tells me it will be full of comedy relief as he is only inviting his supporters, which means there should be a huge picture of empty real estate just like his inauguration showed....It's being reported that he's still asking for tanks to roll through DC to highlight the celebration.
Post by: Teaman on July 01, 2019, 10:41:22 am
Most people can't afford the high prices of health insurance that is out there.
That is true. It's expensive. It became expensive when the government started to monkey with it starting with Medicare. It was still pretty reasonable when I left the service. I'm not sure, but it became more expensive with the government's involvement with HMOs.
Personally, I don't have a problem with a government option kept at a state level and left to the states to modify plans as needed. Simply expand Medicaid.
Germany has private and public coexisting plans that seem to work. Germany being a state in the Europian Union.
Post by: Teaman on July 01, 2019, 10:43:36 am
It's being reported that he's still asking for tanks to roll through DC to highlight the celebration.
You just can't have a quality parade without a tank or two. ;D
Post by: Realtime on July 01, 2019, 11:50:43 am
You just can't have a quality parade without a tank or two. ;DNah you can't.
Kim's got the right idea on parades although he should really skip the *three antique planes flyover.
*N Korea's entire air force
Post by: Weepy on July 01, 2019, 12:09:34 pm
It's being reported that he's still asking for tanks to roll through DC to highlight the celebration.
It would piss off the DC city gov't as it would tear the roads up but then again Twitler never cared about such issues, as long as he celebrates himself that is all that matters...
Post by: Realtime on July 01, 2019, 12:28:35 pm
Not disputing anything you said. All true. The problem was Stevens requested more security at the consulate and was denied. That is the state department. The contractors got involved rescuing the personnel at the consulate.Well not exactly because it wasn't exactly Stevens doing the requesting and it wasn't exactly Hillary Clinton handling the requests. So while Politifact rates that "requests were made" as true, it explained that many of the requests were made before Stevens was ambassador some even before Hillary was secretary of state.
Left out of the Trey Gowdy hearings were these facts.
The facts of what happened and why were clearly established by the Accountability Review Board:
Ambassador Chris Stevens was responsible for the decision to travel to Benghazi. In-country travel is solely at the discretion of the ambassador, and he did not need to seek Department of State approval.
He traveled to Benghazi knowing full well that his physical and personnel security concerns had not been adequately addressed by the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security. Despite the security concerns, he traveled nonetheless due to personnel rotation in Benghazi and to re-establish contacts in Benghazi.
He left Benghazi on November 17, 2011, and returned as ambassador to Libya on September 10, 2012. In that intervening time, and in the six months prior to September 11, there had been 20 security incidents. Despite a CIA presence in Benghazi, Stevens was unaware of the evolution of the militias that subsequently killed him and his colleagues.
Post by: Realtime on July 01, 2019, 12:32:58 pm
It would **** off the DC city gov't as it would tear the roads up but then again Twitler never cared about such issues, as long as he celebrates himself that is all that matters...Maybe he could get some photos of himself hung on the sides of buildings like his hero dictators do.
Post by: Teaman on July 01, 2019, 12:47:09 pm
Well not exactly because it wasn't exactly Stevens doing the requesting and it wasn't exactly Hillary Clinton handling the requests. So while Politifact rates that "requests were made" as true, it explained that many of the requests were made before Stevens was ambassador some even before Hillary was secretary of state.
Left out of the Trey Gowdy hearings were these facts.
The facts of what happened and why were clearly established by the Accountability Review Board:
Ambassador Chris Stevens was responsible for the decision to travel to Benghazi. In-country travel is solely at the discretion of the ambassador, and he did not need to seek Department of State approval.
He traveled to Benghazi knowing full well that his physical and personnel security concerns had not been adequately addressed by the State Department's Bureau of Diplomatic Security. Despite the security concerns, he traveled nonetheless due to personnel rotation in Benghazi and to re-establish contacts in Benghazi.
He left Benghazi on November 17, 2011, and returned as ambassador to Libya on September 10, 2012. In that intervening time, and in the six months prior to September 11, there had been 20 security incidents. Despite a CIA presence in Benghazi, Stevens was unaware of the evolution of the militias that subsequently killed him and his colleagues.
I'm not really blaming Hillary, although she shares some of it. Charlene Lamb denied the security requests for reasons unknown. It is said the appearence of an occupying force was to be avoided.
Post by: Texas Pete on July 01, 2019, 12:47:36 pm
It would **** off the DC city gov't as it would tear the roads up but then again Twitler never cared about such issues, as long as he celebrates himself that is all that matters...Not if you pave the route with reporters from CNN and MSNBC!
Post by: purplelady1040 on July 01, 2019, 12:48:06 pm
That is true. It's expensive. It became expensive when the government started to monkey with it starting with Medicare. It was still pretty reasonable when I left the service. I'm not sure, but it became more expensive with the government's involvement with HMOs.Actually, most of Germany's health insurance is a social plan of insurance. They insure all.
Personally, I don't have a problem with a government option kept at a state level and left to the states to modify plans as needed. Simply expand Medicaid.
Germany has private and public coexisting plans that seem to work. Germany being a state in the Europian Union.
Post by: Teaman on July 01, 2019, 12:50:31 pm
Nah you can't.
Kim's got the right idea on parades although he should really skip the *three antique planes flyover.
*N Korea's entire air force
Lol. true dat
Post by: Teaman on July 01, 2019, 01:06:25 pm
Actually, most of Germany's health insurance is a social plan of insurance. They insure all.
Yes, most of it is, through an insurer. It's simply compulsory. 11% is private. I can see it shifting more to private as time goes by.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK298832/
I don't have a problem with it as long as it remains state administered and states are free to develop or improve on delivery through their own devices. Germany would be one state and, let's say Switzerland would be another.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland
A Mises Institute article as to why insurance is high here.
https://mises.org/wire/how-government-regulations-made-healthcare-so-expensive
Post by: Teaman on July 01, 2019, 01:08:39 pm
Maybe he could get some photos of himself hung on the sides of buildings like his hero dictators do.
A laurel wreath on his head and riding a chariot.
Post by: purplelady1040 on July 01, 2019, 01:10:34 pm
Yes, most of it is, through an insurer. It's simply compulsory. 11% is private. I can see it shifting more to private as time goes by.Government Health Insurance System (GKV) Most German residents (approx. 70 million people) are members of the government health system. If your gross salary is less than 60,750 Euros per year, or 5,063 Euros per month in 2019 then membership in the GKV is mandatory.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK298832/
I don't have a problem with it as long as it remains state administered and states are free to develop or improve on delivery through their own devices. Germany would be one state and, let's say Switzerland would be another.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Switzerland
A Mises Institute article as to why insurance is high here.
https://mises.org/wire/how-government-regulations-made-healthcare-so-expensive
Got this off a website about Germany's health insurance.
Post by: Teaman on July 01, 2019, 01:25:35 pm
Government Health Insurance System (GKV) Most German residents (approx. 70 million people) are members of the government health system. If your gross salary is less than 60,750 Euros per year, or 5,063 Euros per month in 2019 then membership in the GKV is mandatory.
Got this off a website about Germany's health insurance.
I don't believe the insurers are the government.
Looks like the same website I posted. At any rate, it is different from France, England, Switzerland, etc.
Speaking of France, I believe they have government socialist healthcare and their unemployment is about 8% and people are demonstrating in the streets against the high cost of gas, I believe. They are now allowing private supplementary plans.
Post by: purplelady1040 on July 01, 2019, 01:42:37 pm
I don't believe the insurers are the government.It is the government there. Have a friend who lives there and she said that the government insures those who can't afford insurance.
Looks like the same website I posted. At any rate, it is different from France, England, Switzerland, etc.
Speaking of France, I believe they have government socialist healthcare and their unemployment is about 8% and people are demonstrating in the streets against the high cost of gas, I believe. They are now allowing private supplementary plans.
By the way, 60,000 Euros is about 67,000 in U.S. dollars
Post by: Teaman on July 01, 2019, 01:59:47 pm
It is the government there. Have a friend who lives there and she said that the government insures those who can't afford insurance.
By the way, 60,000 Euros is about 67,000 in U.S. dollars
I think you're right. I believe there are some options other than income for private insurance.
However, so we don't go off on a KFC marathon, Germany is different from other countries in the EU like Texas is different from Massachusetts in the US. My position is it should be kept at a state level leaving the states to develop better care through their own devices.
One of the things I supported Obama on was relaxing the federal regulations on the states when administering Medicaid.
Post by: purplelady1040 on July 01, 2019, 02:24:31 pm
I think you're right. I believe there are some options other than income for private insurance.Obama didn't help on affordable health care at all. It sucks. I can pay better out of pocket than I can with the insurance plan he came up with. Insurance is a racket regardless.
However, so we don't go off on a KFC marathon, Germany is different from other countries in the EU like Texas is different from Massachusetts in the US. My position is it should be kept at a state level leaving the states to develop better care through their own devices.
One of the things I supported Obama on was relaxing the federal regulations on the states when administering Medicaid.
Post by: Teaman on July 01, 2019, 03:33:05 pm
Obama didn't help on affordable health care at all. It sucks. I can pay better out of pocket than I can with the insurance plan he came up with. Insurance is a racket regardless.
I agree with that, but I was referring to Medicaid. It's state administered.
My daughter, who lost her plan due to Obamacare, figured the same thing you did. It pays better out of pocket.
Post by: purplelady1040 on July 01, 2019, 03:47:01 pm
I agree with that, but I was referring to Medicaid. It's state administered.Medicaid Funding. Medicaid is funded by the federal government and each state. The federal government pays states for a share of program expenditures, called the Federal Medical Assistance Percentage (FMAP). Each state has its own FMAP based on per capita income and other criteria.
My daughter, who lost her plan due to Obamacare, figured the same thing you did. It pays better out of pocket.
So medicaid is funded by both.
Source is Medicaid on the web.
Post by: Teaman on July 01, 2019, 04:57:02 pm
Medicaid Funding. Medicaid is funded by the federal government and each state. The federal government pays states for a share of program expenditures, called the Federal Medical Assistance Percentage (FMAP). Each state has its own FMAP based on per capita income and other criteria.
So medicaid is funded by both.
Source is Medicaid on the web.
Yes, funded. Your last sentence says each state has its own FMAP. Obama relaxed some fed regulations enabling the states to improve it on their own.
Post by: purplelady1040 on July 01, 2019, 05:56:03 pm
Yes, funded. Your last sentence says each state has its own FMAP. Obama relaxed some fed regulations enabling the states to improve it on their own.It is still regulated and funded by the federal government also.
Post by: fish-sticks on July 01, 2019, 06:23:17 pm
Post by: Teaman on July 01, 2019, 08:45:39 pm
It is still regulated and funded by the federal government also.
Yes, that's what I was trying to say. Obama relaxed a lot of those regulations.
Partially funded by the federal government.
Tennessee's state healthcare plan was an extension of Medicaid.
Post by: Quills on July 02, 2019, 06:24:26 pm
https://babylonbee.com/news/hillary-proposes-reparations-to-anyone-who-ever-lost-a-presidential-election-to-trump?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 06, 2019, 09:50:14 pm
Sprocket got lonely on his forum with all his socks.I believe you! 🤣
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 06, 2019, 09:51:49 pm
https://youtu.be/cB64RSrujCk
Post by: purplelady1040 on July 07, 2019, 07:28:50 am
Oh, hail to our complete IDIOT IN CHIEF! 🤣Yeah, I like that airport reference..
https://youtu.be/cB64RSrujCk
One if by land, two if sea and three if by air is what I saw someone had posted.
Post by: joanna50 on July 10, 2019, 06:30:03 am
Oh, hail to our complete IDIOT IN CHIEF! 🤣What a retarded moron, and he is president, wtf is going on in America
https://youtu.be/cB64RSrujCk
Post by: purplelady1040 on July 10, 2019, 07:38:34 am
What a retarded moron, and he is president, wtf is going on in AmericaMy opinion the idiots who didn't know any better voted for him. I didn't for him or Clinton, I voted independent.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 10, 2019, 10:10:05 am
What a retarded moron, and he is president, wtf is going on in AmericaIt has everything to do with their greedy wealthy donors as well as a REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED CONGRESS THAT GAVE THIS IDIOTIC FOOL IN CHARGE HIS SEAT, AS WAS REPORTED BY THE ELECTION COMMISSION. If you recall Hillary won the people’s vote by nearly 3 million - that’s how.
And FAKE News Corporation has done its best to see it through as well.
https://youtu.be/It0H2HVN1xo
Do you recall the idiot in chief saying that he supposedly “PAID” for everything and never accepted dirty money?
Just how many lies does he and his friends from Fox tell, eh?
All of them are pathological liars cause he was PAID for with dirty money from even foreign donors like China, Saudi Arabia, North Korea and Russia.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 10, 2019, 10:13:24 am
He’s no better than the Bush family of idiots.
Post by: Weepy on July 10, 2019, 11:02:45 am
Trump is only in this for his own bank account and couldn’t care less about the United States, or he would be helping us instead of himself.
He’s no better than the Bush family of idiots.
That was well established awhile back. If Hillary was president the congress would be controlled by GOP for a long time and Paul Ryan would still be speaker, Trey Gowdy would be shouting Benghazi, we were gonna be in a quagmire no matter who won...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 15, 2019, 01:39:43 am
That was well established awhile back. If Hillary was president the congress would be controlled by GOP for a long time and Paul Ryan would still be speaker, Trey Gowdy would be shouting Benghazi, we were gonna be in a quagmire no matter who won...True. However, they are still exposing themselves to be paid puppets who talk from both sides of their mouths.
Post by: joanna50 on July 16, 2019, 09:57:25 pm
My opinion the idiots who didn't know any better voted for him. I didn't for him or Clinton, I voted independent.You were probably the only one who did, I seriously don't understand the mindset of those who vote party instead of the best candidate, doesn't anyone research these people and what they stand for. I didn't vote for either of them either, matter of fact this latest debacle has shown me that the elections are rigged and our vote doesn't really count
Post by: Jackie on July 16, 2019, 10:20:12 pm
You were probably the only one who did, I seriously don't understand the mindset of those who vote party instead of the best candidate, doesn't anyone research these people and what they stand for. I didn't vote for either of them either, matter of fact this latest debacle has shown me that the elections are rigged and our vote doesn't really count
Gotta count those tallies like the Florida election, it was a science. make the new voting machines will make it honest.
Post by: Teaman on July 17, 2019, 09:52:58 am
You were probably the only one who did, I seriously don't understand the mindset of those who vote party instead of the best candidate, doesn't anyone research these people and what they stand for. I didn't vote for either of them either, matter of fact this latest debacle has shown me that the elections are rigged and our vote doesn't really count
What debacle?
Post by: Weepy on July 17, 2019, 03:49:39 pm
What debacle?
Only debacle I see is Trump and the GOP spinning out of control trying to defend a racist statement made by Trump and pretend to be "victims" of it all, many conspiricies are being floated..
Maybe Twitler did it to take news off Epstein and Mueller, I dunno. Kinda makes him look like he is out of it., esp mentally.. **** Licker makes more sense than him and he makes no sense at all either...
Post by: Teaman on July 17, 2019, 05:17:18 pm
Only debacle I see is Trump and the GOP spinning out of control trying to defend a racist statement made by Trump and pretend to be "victims" of it all, many conspiricies are being floated..
Maybe Twitler did it to take news off Epstein and Mueller, I dunno. Kinda makes him look like he is out of it., esp mentally.. **** Licker makes more sense than him and he makes no sense at all either...
What racist statement?
What if the person who was trashing America was told to go back to where you came from was German? I do admit he flubbed that one but I don't see racism.
The four women involved are giving Trump just what he wants. I agree with you there, but it's about painting the entire democrat party as socialists.
Post by: Weepy on July 17, 2019, 08:34:14 pm
What racist statement?
What if the person who was trashing America was told to go back to where you came from was German? I do admit he flubbed that one but I don't see racism.
The four women involved are giving Trump just what he wants. I agree with you there, but it's about painting the entire democrat party as socialists.
You remind me of a poster named "Earl" on Topix. He would repeat the talking points pretending to know what he was talking about, he was a sheeple, just like you showed here and elsewhere. We got along in common ground issues but he was quite a character and you meet that criteria on here. You and he are around similar age too....
Post by: Teaman on July 17, 2019, 08:59:13 pm
You remind me of a poster named "Earl" on Topix. He would repeat the talking points pretending to know what he was talking about, he was a sheeple, just like you showed here and elsewhere. We got along in common ground issues but he was quite a character and you meet that criteria on here. You and he are around similar age too....
What talking point would that be?
Post by: Weepy on July 17, 2019, 09:23:42 pm
What talking point would that be?
Trump's racism on TV is intentional, to get the news channels off the other news, such as Epstein, Mueller, etc. Everyone already knew he was racist awhile back, that is no shock but that was Trump's strategy and uses it to create anarchy. It will backfire as his racism is forever recorded in the House of Representitives, he will probably up the racism tomorrow, Epstein's bail hearing is up tomorrow and needs distractions. Republicans were pissed that they will be unable to use that strategy in the future in order to keep their people elected
Post by: joanna50 on July 17, 2019, 10:27:41 pm
Trump's racism on TV is intentional, to get the news channels off the other news, such as Epstein, Mueller, etc. Everyone already knew he was racist awhile back, that is no shock but that was Trump's strategy and uses it to create anarchy. It will backfire as his racism is forever recorded in the House of Representitives, he will probably up the racism tomorrow, Epstein's bail hearing is up tomorrow and needs distractions. Republicans were pissed that they will be unable to use that strategy in the future in order to keep their people electedIt may be intentional but it has garnered a lot of support, sadly what does that say of a supposedly civilized society. Seems like behavior similar to a pack of rabid dogs has become acceptable
Post by: anonymous on July 17, 2019, 10:31:42 pm
Trump's racism on TV is intentional, to get the news channels off the other news, such as Epstein, Mueller, etc. Everyone already knew he was racist awhile back, that is no shock but that was Trump's strategy and uses it to create anarchy. It will backfire as his racism is forever recorded in the House of Representitives, he will probably up the racism tomorrow, Epstein's bail hearing is up tomorrow and needs distractions. Republicans were pissed that they will be unable to use that strategy in the future in order to keep their people elected
https://youtu.be/RktX4lbe_g4
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 18, 2019, 01:35:39 am
Only debacle I see is Trump and the GOP spinning out of control trying to defend a racist statement made by Trump and pretend to be "victims" of it all, many conspiricies are being floated..Lmmfao 🤣
Maybe Twitler did it to take news off Epstein and Mueller, I dunno. Kinda makes him look like he is out of it., esp mentally.. **** Licker makes more sense than him and he makes no sense at all either...
Post by: Teaman on July 18, 2019, 09:24:10 am
Trump's racism on TV is intentional, to get the news channels off the other news, such as Epstein, Mueller, etc. Everyone already knew he was racist awhile back, that is no shock but that was Trump's strategy and uses it to create anarchy. It will backfire as his racism is forever recorded in the House of Representitives, he will probably up the racism tomorrow, Epstein's bail hearing is up tomorrow and needs distractions. Republicans were pissed that they will be unable to use that strategy in the future in order to keep their people elected
Again, when did he mention anyone's race? I'll bet you would like to see Trump go back to where he came from.
Post by: Realtime on July 18, 2019, 12:27:36 pm
Again, when did he mention anyone's race? I'll bet you would like to see Trump go back to where he came from.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkBBNU8c-xU
If you don't believe that Trump is a racist, you are a racist.
Post by: Realtime on July 18, 2019, 12:29:33 pm
Again, when did he mention anyone's race? I'll bet you would like to see Trump go back to where he came from.https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/
If you don't believe Trump is a racist, you are a racist.
Post by: Realtime on July 18, 2019, 12:37:23 pm
You remind me of a poster named "Earl" on Topix. He would repeat the talking points pretending to know what he was talking about, he was a sheeple, just like you showed here and elsewhere. We got along in common ground issues but he was quite a character and you meet that criteria on here. You and he are around similar age too....Earl was a troll and liar as were his sidekicks on the Tennessee/Southern forums and finally on the thread myself and Teaman posted on, the largest thread on topix and perhaps the history of the internet with over one and a half million posts and around a half million more that were deleted.
I suspect that Earl, Julia and more were all the same person.
Post by: Weepy on July 18, 2019, 12:47:36 pm
Earl was a troll and liar as were his sidekicks on the Tennessee/Southern forums and finally on the thread myself and Teaman posted on, the largest thread on topix and perhaps the history of the internet with over one and a half million posts and around a half million more that were deleted.Earl did use women names but his giveaway is he posted as a gray box with a Charlottesville, Va IP most of the time. Is this the same one you encountered? Claimed to be in his 70s and his behavior is exactly how you described...He hung around WV boards as if he lived in the area...
I suspect that Earl, Julia and more were all the same person.
Post by: Teaman on July 18, 2019, 02:49:42 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkBBNU8c-xU
If you don't believe that Trump is a racist, you are a racist.
You might want to point out the racist statements.
Post by: Teaman on July 18, 2019, 02:52:17 pm
Earl was a troll and liar as were his sidekicks on the Tennessee/Southern forums and finally on the thread myself and Teaman posted on, the largest thread on topix and perhaps the history of the internet with over one and a half million posts and around a half million more that were deleted.
I suspect that Earl, Julia and more were all the same person.
I remember Ear. You coined that name, didn't you? Julia too.
Post by: purplelady1040 on July 18, 2019, 02:56:17 pm
You might want to point out the racist statements.Maybe his comment that he said send them back where they came from shows what a racist he is. If you do not realize how racist that is than you need help.
Post by: Teaman on July 18, 2019, 03:07:35 pm
Maybe his comment that he said send them back where they came from shows what a racist he is. If you do not realize how racist that is than you need help.
Explain it to me. What if they were from Russia? I've said that about Russians on occasion back north.
Post by: purplelady1040 on July 18, 2019, 03:18:35 pm
Explain it to me. What if they were from Russia? I've said that about Russians on occasion back north.Then you are being racists because many people are here from other countries. And here legally.
Post by: Teaman on July 18, 2019, 04:26:58 pm
Then you are being racists because many people are here from other countries. And here legally.
I'm racist when it comes to Russians trashing the country? There are some Russians that consider themselves as Americans. One of them shipped my car down here.
The others are here as asylum seekers due to an old provision for religious persecution (Christians).
Post by: Teaman on July 18, 2019, 04:27:55 pm
Then you are being racists because many people are here from other countries. And here legally.
BTW, race and countries are two different things.
Post by: purplelady1040 on July 18, 2019, 05:23:29 pm
BTW, race and countries are two different things.You do realize that Russians are a race, they are of the Slavic or Eastern European race.
When Trump claims he wants to sends people back he is showing he is a racist.
Post by: Teaman on July 18, 2019, 05:37:13 pm
You do realize that Russians are a race, they are of the Slavic or Eastern European race.
When Trump claims he wants to sends people back he is showing he is a racist.
Lol, okay. ;)
Post by: Realtime on July 18, 2019, 05:42:33 pm
BTW, race and countries are two different things.There are three distinct races and a mess of sub races, mixed races etc.
The term "send them back" which Trump has used many times is in violation of the EEOC employment laws.
Trump’s Tweets So Clearly Racist It’s Spelled Out In Discrimination Law https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/donald-trump-tweet-racist-discrimination-employment-law
If you believe Trump is not a racist, you are a racist.
Post by: purplelady1040 on July 18, 2019, 06:17:00 pm
There are three distinct racists and a mess of sub races, mixed races etc.Exactly. Same as it would be discriminating against someone who has a disability.
The term "send them back" which Trump has used many times is in violation of the EEOC employment laws.
Trump’s Tweets So Clearly Racist It’s Spelled Out In Discrimination Law https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/donald-trump-tweet-racist-discrimination-employment-law
If you believe Trump is not a racist, you are a racist.
Post by: Teaman on July 18, 2019, 08:24:41 pm
There are three distinct racists and a mess of sub races, mixed races etc.
The term "send them back" which Trump has used many times is in violation of the EEOC employment laws.
Trump’s Tweets So Clearly Racist It’s Spelled Out In Discrimination Law https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/donald-trump-tweet-racist-discrimination-employment-law
If you believe Trump is not a racist, you are a racist.
You might be on to something there, Realtime.
Good article.
Post by: joanna50 on July 20, 2019, 09:03:14 am
You might be on to something there, Realtime.Well said
Good article.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 21, 2019, 05:14:37 am
Again, when did he mention anyone's race? I'll bet you would like to see Trump go back to where he came from.I bet most of the nation would be glad to pay for that. 😁
https://youtu.be/fOVmbD9cGXA
Post by: Texas Pete on July 21, 2019, 01:23:35 pm
Post by: purplelady1040 on July 21, 2019, 01:30:14 pm
Trump lies, what else is new?Yep and daily.
Post by: anonymous on July 21, 2019, 11:15:35 pm
Yep and daily.
https://youtu.be/ukWRRNqMAZ4 :o
Post by: Realtime on July 23, 2019, 09:58:27 am
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a28472403/15000-americans-died-medicaid-expansion-obamacare/
Pretty well researched article.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 23, 2019, 06:59:39 pm
15,000 Americans died so GOP governors could stick it to Obama.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a28472403/15000-americans-died-medicaid-expansion-obamacare/
Pretty well researched article.
Racism is something the GOP is full of.
Great article btw.
Post by: Realtime on July 25, 2019, 09:40:50 am
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/judge-andrew-napolitano-the-longest-pleasure
Post by: Realtime on July 26, 2019, 11:10:58 am
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/454878-trump-failed-to-hit-3-percent-growth-in-2018-data-revisions
And with an extra Trillion or so added to the debt. Of course he'll lie about it but his supporters won't care.
Trump's core followers are essentially dumbasses who live in an alternate reality where the truth is what Trump says it and facts have no bearing. Fact-checking everything he says is a smart person's game, it simply doesn't work when you're dealing with brain-dead morons.
Post by: Mark J on July 26, 2019, 11:42:43 am
Trump fell short of 3 percent GDP goal in 2018, revised figures show
https://thehill.com/policy/finance/454878-trump-failed-to-hit-3-percent-growth-in-2018-data-revisions
And with an extra Trillion or so added to the debt. Of course he'll lie about it but his supporters won't care.
Trump's core followers are essentially dumbasses who live in an alternate reality where the truth is what Trump says it and facts have no bearing. Fact-checking everything he says is a smart person's game, it simply doesn't work when you're dealing with brain-dead morons.
Be nice if it could be explained away in that manner however there are also a number of more educated trumpanzees.
What we have here is a cult. This cult primed it's members with 30 years of right wing propaganda via fox news and AM radio.
I know a former mayor of my town and his wife, a respected older couple with a disabled son who is dependent on the social safety net. They have always been moderate republicans up until about 10 years ago when they both took a hard right turn into la-la land. This coincided with their retirements and their new habit of watching fox news near every waking hour of the day.
Not long ago my elderly mother, a stanch Democrat and retired professional, spent a day at their home and phoned me that evening to ask if she should be fortifying her doors against the migrant caravan. --We live in WV. Just six hours of fox news playing in the back round did that, made her worry that a tidal wave of Central Americans was going to sweep over the USA like a zombie horde.
It's a cult, it programs it's victims just as any other evil cult does.
Post by: Realtime on July 26, 2019, 12:13:16 pm
Be nice if it could be explained away in that manner however there are also a number of more educated trumpanzees.True that. Rush/FOX has broken up many friendships and families over the years and gone a long way towards making certain among us much too mean. Also correct on retirement, many formerly dependent on unions or state/municipal jobs for life suddenly hate such.
What we have here is a cult. This cult primed it's members with 30 years of right wing propaganda via fox news and AM radio.
I know a former mayor of my town and his wife, a respected older couple with a disabled son who is dependent on the social safety net. They have always been moderate republicans up until about 10 years ago when they both took a hard right turn into la-la land. This coincided with their retirements and their new habit of watching fox news near every waking hour of the day.
Not long ago my elderly mother, a stanch Democrat and retired professional, spent a day at their home and phoned me that evening to ask if she should be fortifying her doors against the migrant caravan. --We live in WV. Just six hours of fox news playing in the back round did that, made her worry that a tidal wave of Central Americans was going to sweep over the USA like a zombie horde.
It's a cult, it programs it's victims just as any other evil cult does.
Here's glimpse of a 100,000 person plus retirement community with it's own radio, TV and newspaper
http://www.thevillagesteaparty.org/
Post by: Mark J on July 26, 2019, 12:51:23 pm
True that. Rush/FOX has broken up many friendships and families over the years and gone a long way towards making certain among us much too mean. Also correct on retirement, many formerly dependent on unions or state/municipal jobs for life suddenly hate such.
Here's glimpse of a 100,000 person plus retirement community with it's own radio, TV and newspaper
http://www.thevillagesteaparty.org/
Yep, in the villages the right wing bubble finds physical form.
Someone figured out that a lot of old folks are both lonely and scared, then found a way to both profit on that and use it for recruiting more cult members.
Post by: Teaman on July 26, 2019, 01:38:28 pm
Yep, in the villages the right wing bubble finds physical form.
Someone figured out that a lot of old folks are both lonely and scared, then found a way to both profit on that and use it for recruiting more cult members.
Lonely and scared, hilarious.
There are a few bone heads in the Villages.
https://www.thevillagesdemocrats.org/
When one can be prosecuted for thought and desire, you should be scared. Maybe there's a Volksgerichtshof in the future.
Post by: Realtime on July 26, 2019, 05:27:06 pm
Lonely and scared, hilarious.You didn't read first did you? Or you would have seen this__Our Villages Democratic Club is a fast-growing club of approximately 2200 members, mostly registered Democrats, but also left-leaning Independents with similar values! We are a social club with a strong base of activist Democrats.
There are a few bone heads in the Villages.
https://www.thevillagesdemocrats.org/
When one can be prosecuted for thought and desire, you should be scared. Maybe there's a Volksgerichtshof in the future.
And again, the Villages mindset extends far beyond Thee Villages encompassing most of Lake/Sumter and Marion Counties creating real problems in those counties elections when R candidates need not campaign anywhere but Thee Villages to win a seat.
2.2% Dems, Hah ROFLMAO.
Post by: Weepy on July 26, 2019, 09:11:06 pm
True that. Rush/FOX has broken up many friendships and families over the years and gone a long way towards making certain among us much too mean. Also correct on retirement, many formerly dependent on unions or state/municipal jobs for life suddenly hate such.
Here's glimpse of a 100,000 person plus retirement community with it's own radio, TV and newspaper
http://www.thevillagesteaparty.org/
RxUSH broke his own family up and is not the "self made man" he says when he is high on the air, he was positioned there by the military industrial complex as he was a shock jock type and the old style conservatives wanted nothing to do with that. That kkklown got lucky, he was a total nobody drifting the country for disc jockey work when that fell in his lap..
Isnt that around Orlando? I lived in that region and barely heard of the place back in 1989-90 but it was nothing back then...
Post by: Realtime on July 27, 2019, 07:36:41 am
RxUSH broke his own family up and is not the "self made man" he says when he is high on the air, he was positioned there by the military industrial complex as he was a shock jock type and the old style conservatives wanted nothing to do with that. That kkklown got lucky, he was a total nobody drifting the country for disc jockey work when that fell in his lap..The Villages began as a doublewide park called Orange Blossom Gardens, it was located on beautiful pastureland
Isnt that around Orlando? I lived in that region and barely heard of the place back in 1989-90 but it was nothing back then...
in the Lady Lake FL area just to the SE of Ocala Fl. It was purchased by the Morse family and began to take off during the early 80's after the original plaza was completed and the golfing operation expanded. It was always political but the present fervor has its roots in cable TV, talk radio and the Morse family's devotion to Republican politics. It was Gary Morse's Cayman registered yacht that caused grief for Mitt Romney during the 2012 election season.
Since Obama was elected the political tone at The Villages and nearby retirement developments has become almost unbearable, nowhere is free from one way political discussion, right leaning to far right politics permeates the air. the Villagers have become known as haters.
A second Morse Family community has been started to the South of The Villages near the FL Turnpike and Clermont FL. It's being said that this one will attempt to be apolitical__the locals aren't buying that.
Post by: Teaman on July 27, 2019, 09:25:22 am
You didn't read first did you? Or you would have seen this__Our Villages Democratic Club is a fast-growing club of approximately 2200 members, mostly registered Democrats, but also left-leaning Independents with similar values! We are a social club with a strong base of activist Democrats.
And again, the Villages mindset extends far beyond Thee Villages encompassing most of Lake/Sumter and Marion Counties creating real problems in those counties elections when R candidates need not campaign anywhere but Thee Villages to win a seat.
2.2% Dems, Hah ROFLMAO.
The Rs have a two to one majority there, for sure, but really not the right-wing bubble of scared and lonely people as described.
Post by: Realtime on July 27, 2019, 09:50:04 am
The Rs have a two to one majority there, for sure, but really not the right-wing bubble of scared and lonely people as described.I never said scared or lonely, only that the lions share of those who retire there pay handsomely to be among their own kind, white, mostly midwesterners who enjoyed the final era of jobs with good pensions and benefits for life.
Post by: Teaman on July 27, 2019, 09:58:35 am
I never said scared or lonely, only that the lions share of those who retire there pay handsomely to be among their own kind, white, mostly midwesterners who enjoyed the final era of jobs with good pensions and benefits for life.
You didn't say that, Mark did.
Post by: Teaman on July 27, 2019, 10:02:13 am
I never said scared or lonely, only that the lions share of those who retire there pay handsomely to be among their own kind, white, mostly midwesterners who enjoyed the final era of jobs with good pensions and benefits for life.
Btw, my daughter's in-laws live there and we visit occasionally. I really don't like the place. It's all self-contained out in the middle of nowhere. It kind of reminded me of a military base.
Post by: Window Lickers Union on July 27, 2019, 06:59:51 pm
15,000 Americans died so GOP governors could stick it to Obama.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a28472403/15000-americans-died-medicaid-expansion-obamacare/
Pretty well researched article.
That awkward moment when thoughtful readers come to the realization that it was the supreme court that allowed the passage of this law (5-4), that all the more liberal leaning judges (Justices Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan) voted for the current iteration that this article is condemning.
A law supposedly so bad, that according to this article there was a collective "sigh" that drowned out "that one part of the courts decision". So the writer of this articles clearly indicates nobody supporting it really cared what was in the law or what was feasibly passable that they pushed long as they (democrats) got a "victory" for, you know .... that one president (the black one).
But somehow, it's those (dirty racist) Republican Governors that were not bought and paid for, and I do quote; these governors violated one of the fundamental tenets of state government that date back to the dawn of human greed: they refused FREE MONEY! The writer of this article, Charles P. Pierce, actually writes out in full disclosure that these Governors are not bought and paid for (as quoted above), that they were beholden to their constituents wishes that put them in office and not to the misrepresented "FREE MONEY!" ACA.
...If only we had more politicians like that.
Also,
You state this article is a "pretty well researched article". So well infact that they hide the information supporting it behind what looks to be a pay-wall (subscription). I usually don't mind looking further into what somebody claims, but there is a limit to my searching for information when it's the claimants position to do so -Which so far hasn't been supported. All we have so far is an excerpt of data that could be very easily shown out of context to push an agenda.
I'd really like to read the "published paper", do you have an actual working link to this information?
Post by: Realtime on July 28, 2019, 08:50:36 am
https://www.nber.org/papers/w26081.pdf There is a small fee for the download.
That awkward moment when thoughtful readers come to the realization that it was the supreme court that allowed the passage of this law (5-4), that all the more liberal leaning judges (Justices Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan) voted for the current iteration that this article is condemning.
A law supposedly so bad, that according to this article there was a collective "sigh" that drowned out "that one part of the courts decision". So the writer of this articles clearly indicates nobody supporting it really cared what was in the law or what was feasibly passable that they pushed long as they (democrats) got a "victory" for, you know .... that one president (the black one).
But somehow, it's those (dirty racist) Republican Governors that were not bought and paid for, and I do quote; these governors violated one of the fundamental tenets of state government that date back to the dawn of human greed: they refused FREE MONEY! The writer of this article, Charles P. Pierce, actually writes out in full disclosure that these Governors are not bought and paid for (as quoted above), that they were beholden to their constituents wishes that put them in office and not to the misrepresented "FREE MONEY!" ACA.
...If only we had more politicians like that.
Also,
You state this article is a "pretty well researched article". So well infact that they hide the information supporting it behind what looks to be a pay-wall (subscription). I usually don't mind looking further into what somebody claims, but there is a limit to my searching for information when it's the claimants position to do so -Which so far hasn't been supported. All we have so far is an excerpt of data that could be very easily shown out of context to push an agenda.
I'd really like to read the "published paper", do you have an actual working link to this information?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bureau_of_Economic_Research
Free money? LMAO Here's free money Farmers Press for an End to the Trade War as the Trump Administration Rolls Out a $16 Billion Bailout https://time.com/5636024/trade-war-16-billion-farm-aid/
Post by: Realtime on July 28, 2019, 11:24:48 am
The Rs have a two to one majority there, for sure, but really not the right-wing bubble of scared and lonely people as described.Women apologize for berating Spanish-speaking Burger King manager
https://www.dailycommercial.com/news/20190726/women-apologize-for-berating-spanish-speaking-burger-king-manager
Without the video no way would these to apologized.
Eustis is in Lake County just a hop step from The Villages.
Check out the old gal getting frisky...
Post by: Teaman on July 28, 2019, 09:28:15 pm
Women apologize for berating Spanish-speaking Burger King manager
https://www.dailycommercial.com/news/20190726/women-apologize-for-berating-spanish-speaking-burger-king-manager
Without the video no way would these to apologized.
Eustis is in Lake County just a hop step from The Villages.
Check out the old gal getting frisky...
Ha! Georgia transplants that live right in Eustis in the mobile home retirement park.
Post by: Realtime on July 30, 2019, 09:11:22 am
Btw, my daughter's in-laws live there and we visit occasionally. I really don't like the place. It's all self-contained out in the middle of nowhere. It kind of reminded me of a military base.Donald Trump to visit The Villages August 6.
It will be blistering hot and there is no arena__should be a real short speech. There is The Sharon https://thesharon.com/ but it's not very large.
W visited years ago and it got real ugly with old men in golf carts duking it out over protest signs.
Post by: Teaman on July 30, 2019, 09:29:28 am
Donald Trump to visit The Villages August 6.
It will be blistering hot and there is no arena__should be a real short speech. There is The Sharon https://thesharon.com/ but it's not very large.
W visited years ago and it got real ugly with old men in golf carts duking it out over protest signs.
A short speech would be nice.
I can see some of those adolescent old coots duking it out. My son-in-law got into it with one of them who made a remark about his son's behavior.
Post by: Realtime on July 30, 2019, 04:18:00 pm
https://www.insidethebubble.net/politics/
There are several political forums going on up there, you must register and they'll ban or even attack you if you pizz them off.
Silly old people.
Post by: Weepy on July 30, 2019, 04:25:01 pm
Women apologize for berating Spanish-speaking Burger King managerI have been to Eustis but that was 30 years ago, I am sure it is a different place today as well. Been to Leesburg, Ocala and those places as well.. The Villages existed back then but it was nothing. Deltona seems to be a similar place and it was very little back 30 years ago and it blew up big time in population...
https://www.dailycommercial.com/news/20190726/women-apologize-for-berating-spanish-speaking-burger-king-manager
Without the video no way would these to apologized.
Eustis is in Lake County just a hop step from The Villages.
Check out the old gal getting frisky...
Post by: Weepy on July 30, 2019, 04:34:53 pm
They prowl the Publix and Lowes parking lots on the lookout for phony disabled parkers and service dogs. There's an entire section on the website for bogus service dogs.
https://www.insidethebubble.net/politics/
There are several political forums going on up there, you must register and they'll ban or even attack you if you pizz them off.
Silly old people.
What is your take on Lakeland? I read about that place and seen pictures and most reviews and various forum comments put the city in a good light and a nice place to visit but I had been there on three occasions in 1989-90 and around 2000 but my 1989 expierience with that place was it was the most ghetto looking of cities of its size in Florida and looked heavy industrial in that day. I guess cities can change but that place was no tourist destination back in that day...
Post by: Teaman on July 31, 2019, 02:55:34 pm
Two dumb burglars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfyOAnX2JQU
Post by: Realtime on July 31, 2019, 03:32:30 pm
What is your take on Lakeland? I read about that place and seen pictures and most reviews and various forum comments put the city in a good light and a nice place to visit but I had been there on three occasions in 1989-90 and around 2000 but my 1989 expierience with that place was it was the most ghetto looking of cities of its size in Florida and looked heavy industrial in that day. I guess cities can change but that place was no tourist destination back in that day...Eustis is in Lake County FL and the Lake commissioners just voted 3/2 to accept a controversial confederate statue of a guy who likely never set foot in Lake County. The county's mayors are real pizzed off about the decision.
Lake has a long history of racism at it's finest. https://psmag.com/social-justice/the-most-dangerous-place-to-be-black-64206
Lakeland (Polk County) remains commercial/industrial, that area is epicenter to Florida's vast agricultural shipping and inbound warehousing operations. There are some very nice areas though, plenty of lakes, golf and Joker Marchant Stadium where every day is a good day win or lose.
https://www.mlb.com/tigers/spring-training/ballpark
Post by: Realtime on July 31, 2019, 03:40:52 pm
I have been to Eustis but that was 30 years ago, I am sure it is a different place today as well. Been to Leesburg, Ocala and those places as well.. The Villages existed back then but it was nothing. Deltona seems to be a similar place and it was very little back 30 years ago and it blew up big time in population...Deltona has never become more than a bedroom community and while it's population is approaching 100,000 there is very little commercial in that town which by the way has a lot of problems with it's government/utilities. Deltona is over 30% Hispanic, mostly Puerto Ricans.
Post by: Teaman on July 31, 2019, 05:15:41 pm
Eustis is in Lake County FL and the Lake commissioners just voted 3/2 to accept a controversial confederate statue of a guy who likely never set foot in Lake County. The county's mayors are real pizzed off about the decision.
Lake has a long history of racism at it's finest. https://psmag.com/social-justice/the-most-dangerous-place-to-be-black-64206
Lakeland (Polk County) remains commercial/industrial, that area is epicenter to Florida's vast agricultural shipping and inbound warehousing operations. There are some very nice areas though, plenty of lakes, golf and Joker Marchant Stadium where every day is a good day win or lose.
https://www.mlb.com/tigers/spring-training/ballpark
I kind of thought those two old morons who gave the Puerto Rican manager a hard time probably lived right in Eustis. ;)
Post by: Realtime on July 31, 2019, 07:19:58 pm
I kind of thought those two old morons who gave the Puerto Rican manager a hard time probably lived right in Eustis. ;)Could have, or Tavares or Mt Dora which all converge right about where that BK is located. What struck me, aside from the gal waving a fist, was that again we have folks referring to "speaking Mexican."
Post by: Jimmy on July 31, 2019, 09:07:11 pm
I just thought this was hilarious, that all.
Two dumb burglars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfyOAnX2JQU
lol
I love Karma :)
Post by: Jimmy on July 31, 2019, 09:14:30 pm
Donald Trump to visit The Villages August 6.Bah
It will be blistering hot and there is no arena__should be a real short speech. There is The Sharon https://thesharon.com/ but it's not very large.
W visited years ago and it got real ugly with old men in golf carts duking it out over protest signs.
We had the Smothers Brothers at the Chautauqua Institution yesterday.
Your old folks ain't got nothing on my old folks.
:)
Post by: Jackie on August 01, 2019, 11:24:34 pm
I just thought this was hilarious, that all.
Two dumb burglars.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfyOAnX2JQU
Is this for real or an Internet joke I wonder? If it's real it is very funny.
Post by: Teaman on August 02, 2019, 11:04:58 am
Is this for real or an Internet joke I wonder? If it's real it is very funny.
I don't know. It looks real. Funny though.
Post by: Jackie on August 03, 2019, 02:32:19 pm
I don't know. It looks real. Funny though.
It don't feel real to me, but who knows, I guess it's funny anyways.
Post by: Window Lickers Union on August 04, 2019, 06:20:28 pm
Is this for real or an Internet joke I wonder? If it's real it is very funny.
Looks fake.
Between the 8-9 second mark the projectile is on too high of a trajectory to hit the man standing there. It also disappears before it even comes close to making contact. I observe nothing hitting him. You can see it more clearly at 25% play speed.
Post by: Jackie on August 04, 2019, 07:25:19 pm
Looks fake.
Between the 8-9 second mark the projectile is on too high of a trajectory to hit the man standing there. It also disappears before it even comes close to making contact. I observe nothing hitting him. You can see it more clearly at 25% play speed.
I thought something didn't look right, I couldn't of said it better.
Post by: Jackie on August 04, 2019, 07:31:14 pm
Looks fake.
Between the 8-9 second mark the projectile is on too high of a trajectory to hit the man standing there. It also disappears before it even comes close to making contact. I observe nothing hitting him. You can see it more clearly at 25% play speed.
At the 8-9 sec. 25 speed, it looks like when he trows the ball it doesn't hit the plexiglass or glass. The glass doesn't look like glass, it looks like its bouncing back into place. You have a quick eye to catch this.
Post by: Realtime on August 06, 2019, 07:40:09 am
https://time.com/5361394/tv-factory-closing-trump-tariffs/?fbclid=IwAR2AULRIP-QtlaGZqvpBSqqA8wdX8uuzaCeI-0P1buvmNbqpMICoafBWG1w&utm_source=reddit.com
Economics is definitely not Trump's strong suit
Post by: purplelady1040 on August 06, 2019, 08:07:07 am
The Last Major TV Factory in the U.S. Is Shutting Down Because of President Trump's TariffsConsidering he had to declare bankruptcy a bunch of times, he has no head for economics.
https://time.com/5361394/tv-factory-closing-trump-tariffs/?fbclid=IwAR2AULRIP-QtlaGZqvpBSqqA8wdX8uuzaCeI-0P1buvmNbqpMICoafBWG1w&utm_source=reddit.com
Economics is definitely not Trump's strong suit
Post by: Teaman on August 06, 2019, 09:09:23 am
The Last Major TV Factory in the U.S. Is Shutting Down Because of President Trump's Tariffs
https://time.com/5361394/tv-factory-closing-trump-tariffs/?fbclid=IwAR2AULRIP-QtlaGZqvpBSqqA8wdX8uuzaCeI-0P1buvmNbqpMICoafBWG1w&utm_source=reddit.com
Economics is definitely not Trump's strong suit
And then there's this.
https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/sc-television-manufacturer-can-remain-open-after-parts-removed-from/article_d14c62b0-bb83-11e8-9fc5-df0f3417f64f.html
Post by: joanna50 on August 06, 2019, 09:15:05 am
The Last Major TV Factory in the U.S. Is Shutting Down Because of President Trump's TariffsNothing but being a lying, racist, pompous ass is his only strong suit
https://time.com/5361394/tv-factory-closing-trump-tariffs/?fbclid=IwAR2AULRIP-QtlaGZqvpBSqqA8wdX8uuzaCeI-0P1buvmNbqpMICoafBWG1w&utm_source=reddit.com
Economics is definitely not Trump's strong suit
Post by: Teaman on August 06, 2019, 09:23:47 am
Nothing but being a lying, racist, pompous ass is his only strong suit
Refer to the post above.
Post by: Realtime on August 06, 2019, 11:39:20 am
And then there's this.Both my article and yours are a year old, my apologies.
https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/sc-television-manufacturer-can-remain-open-after-parts-removed-from/article_d14c62b0-bb83-11e8-9fc5-df0f3417f64f.html
But then this from a week ago
Trump tariffs are, once again, threatening the last TV assembly plant in America
Element Electronics employs 200+ factory workers
By Natt Garun@nattgarun Jun 28, 2019, 11:15am EDT
https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/28/19102571/trump-tariffs-us-china-trade-war-element-electronics-tvs-walmart
Post by: Teaman on August 06, 2019, 03:25:43 pm
Both my article and yours are a year old, my apologies.
But then this from a week ago
Trump tariffs are, once again, threatening the last TV assembly plant in America
Element Electronics employs 200+ factory workers
By Natt Garun@nattgarun Jun 28, 2019, 11:15am EDT
https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/28/19102571/trump-tariffs-us-china-trade-war-element-electronics-tvs-walmart
Well, let's hope they stay alive.
I tried to find out if LG, Samsung, or other brands get their parts from China. I was wondering why Element Electronics wouldn't just move to another market for parts. India, Indonesia, S. Korea?
Post by: Realtime on August 09, 2019, 05:08:03 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/09/trump-el-paso-melania-orphan-baby-thumbs-up
Post by: Window Lickers Union on August 09, 2019, 09:37:50 pm
Anger as grinning Trump gives thumbs-up while Melania holds El Paso orphan
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/09/trump-el-paso-melania-orphan-baby-thumbs-up
4 out of 5 people in that picture are smiling. Only Trump and Melania are targeted, however, the 2 non-white's that are smiling don't have any "anger" levied against them.
Seems biased and racially motivated towards whites, considering the man standing next to Trump is the baby's uncle and is also smiling. From the article; The baby’s uncle, standing next to Donald Trump...
And everyone still wonder's why these shooters believe their is an anti-white agenda.
Throw another body on the pile why don't you, the fire of racial tensions isn't hot enough as it is!
Post by: DuckieDoll on August 09, 2019, 10:51:40 pm
4 out of 5 people in that picture are smiling. Only Trump and Melania are targeted, however, the 2 non-white's that are smiling don't have any "anger" levied against them.The logical answer here is, they are smiling because they're having their picture taken, and they aren't in the public eye as Trump is. Give me a starting point on their beliefs, or polical affiliation then I have a target to work with.
Seems biased and racially motivated towards whites, considering the man standing next to Trump is the baby's uncle and is also smiling. From the article; The baby’s uncle, standing next to Donald Trump...
And everyone still wonder's why these shooters believe their is an anti-white agenda.
Throw another body on the pile why don't you, the fire of racial tensions isn't hot enough as it is!
Post by: Realtime on August 10, 2019, 07:54:24 am
4 out of 5 people in that picture are smiling. Only Trump and Melania are targeted, however, the 2 non-white's that are smiling don't have any "anger" levied against them.Because no one gives a sht who the other two adults are and the 2 month old orphan doesn't know any better.
Seems biased and racially motivated towards whites, considering the man standing next to Trump is the baby's uncle and is also smiling. From the article; The baby’s uncle, standing next to Donald Trump...
And everyone still wonder's why these shooters believe their is an anti-white agenda.
Throw another body on the pile why don't you, the fire of racial tensions isn't hot enough as it is!
BTW that infant's parents died trying to shield the child from the El Paso shooter.
IMO just another Trump ratings photo op. POS
Post by: Realtime on August 10, 2019, 07:58:48 am
The president is fine with an immigrant “invasion” when it’s benefitting him financially.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/trump-organization-undocumented-workers
Post by: Realtime on August 10, 2019, 08:14:42 am
Hidden report shows white supremacists were responsible for every race-based domestic terror attack in 2018
https://www.salon.com/2019/08/09/trumps-doj-hid-shocking-report-on-growing-terror-threat-from-white-supremacists/?fbclid=IwAR0GsKSu7U-a2IrH_ijDdghxmckkmVPHPkv3Clb65QKb_fKygrB6UCJt8wE
Post by: Realtime on August 10, 2019, 09:20:36 am
Trump says students returning to school have 'nothing to worry about' after the recent mass shootings
Rebecca Morin, USA TODAY Published 3:29 p.m. ET Aug. 9, 2019
WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump on Friday assured students going back to school that they “have nothing to worry about,” as the nation continues to reel after numerous mass shootings over the weekend and increased false alarms and paranoia of the next shooting.
While speaking with reporters outside the White House, Trump was asked what his message is to students who are nervous about going back to school as the new school year starts.
“Go and really study hard and someday you’ll grow up and maybe be president of the United States or do something else that’s fantastic,” Trump said. “They have nothing to fear, they have nothing to worry about.”
smh
Post by: purplelady1040 on August 11, 2019, 10:47:40 am
The guy that keeps on givingYeah, that really helps those who have been in a school shooting or survived. What an idiot. I can tell he doesn't and never will get it.
Trump says students returning to school have 'nothing to worry about' after the recent mass shootings
Rebecca Morin, USA TODAY Published 3:29 p.m. ET Aug. 9, 2019
WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump on Friday assured students going back to school that they “have nothing to worry about,” as the nation continues to reel after numerous mass shootings over the weekend and increased false alarms and paranoia of the next shooting.
While speaking with reporters outside the White House, Trump was asked what his message is to students who are nervous about going back to school as the new school year starts.
“Go and really study hard and someday you’ll grow up and maybe be president of the United States or do something else that’s fantastic,” Trump said. “They have nothing to fear, they have nothing to worry about.”
smh
Post by: Realtime on August 11, 2019, 02:02:45 pm
Trump was still very much married to Marla Maples (they didn’t divorce until 1999).
“But if you’ll recall, Melania arrives (in the U.S.) in 1995 and around the end of that year, or early ’96, is when she poses for the infamous lesbian soft core nude photographs that were leaked to the New York Post,” Burleigh explained. “But the photographer for that shoot, Ale de Basseville, a French guy, is on the record with a 100% backing that he and everyone at that shoot knew (of a relationship between the two in 1996) because she told them that her boyfriend was Donald Trump and he remembers it specifically. He thought that it would increase the value of his photoshoot to this French magazine that was going to print them. And he wanted to tell the editor, you know, this is Donald’s girlfriend and it was ’96. He says that Paolo Zampolli said to him, ‘you can’t do that because he’s still not untethered from his wife.'”
Paolo Zampolli claims to have introduced Melania to Donald at a Victoria Secret fashion show in NYC. Epstein was also in attendance.
The Jeffrey Epstein–Victoria’s Secret Connection
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/victorias-secret-epstein/595507/
Post by: Realtime on August 12, 2019, 12:02:21 pm
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a28675460/donald-trump-evangelicals-goddamn-send-her-back/
Post by: joanna50 on August 12, 2019, 02:16:09 pm
4 out of 5 people in that picture are smiling. Only Trump and Melania are targeted, however, the 2 non-white's that are smiling don't have any "anger" levied against them.I had to read this a few times, Trump is smiling like the retard he is, Melania cause she's a money grubbing ho, the uncle just wants attention and he should hang his head in shame, and yes it is an anti white agenda considering only Hispanics were targeted geez
Seems biased and racially motivated towards whites, considering the man standing next to Trump is the baby's uncle and is also smiling. From the article; The baby’s uncle, standing next to Donald Trump...
And everyone still wonder's why these shooters believe their is an anti-white agenda.
Throw another body on the pile why don't you, the fire of racial tensions isn't hot enough as it is!
Post by: Teaman on August 14, 2019, 03:36:07 pm
I had to read this a few times, Trump is smiling like the retard he is, Melania cause she's a money grubbing ho, the uncle just wants attention and he should hang his head in shame, and yes it is an anti white agenda considering only Hispanics were targeted geez
Along with others.
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/1968984/illegal-chinese-immigrants-are-flocking-san-diego
https://immigration.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000845
Just so you know, the countries below our southern border are Hispanic.
Post by: Realtime on August 14, 2019, 04:07:27 pm
Along with others.You never learn do you pal?
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/1968984/illegal-chinese-immigrants-are-flocking-san-diego
https://immigration.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000845
Just so you know, the countries below our southern border are Hispanic.
Post by: purplelady1040 on August 14, 2019, 05:16:51 pm
You never learn do you pal?That would be asking way too much.
Post by: Teaman on August 14, 2019, 05:44:37 pm
You never learn do you pal?
Someone finally enforces the law and he becomes a racist.
People who received a final order of deportation by an immigration judge are the targets.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ice-to-launch-round-up-of-undocumented-immigrants-sunday-11562849273
Maybe the judges are racists too.
Post by: Jimmy on August 14, 2019, 07:58:26 pm
Someone finally enforces the law and he becomes a racist.Without being coy I will say that Obama was a racist too. I mostly hated his social agenda but at least he was honest about it.
People who received a final order of deportation by an immigration judge are the targets.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ice-to-launch-round-up-of-undocumented-immigrants-sunday-11562849273
Maybe the judges are racists too.
That said this whole topic was about what 'window sticker? posted, calling racism on part of everybody that thought Twump and Milania were out of line by giving a 'thumps up' and a smile two days after what most American's thought of as a travesty.
A Freaking mass murder where our leader in chief was more concerned about his appearance than the American lives that were taken.
Tell me that's acceptable as an American and I'll tell you to fuch off.
That's not what we're about and you know it.
Post by: Teaman on August 14, 2019, 08:22:45 pm
Without being coy I will say that Obama was a racist too. I mostly hated his social agenda but at least he was honest about it.
That said this whole topic was about what 'window sticker? posted, calling racism on part of everybody that thought Twump and Milania were out of line by giving a 'thumps up' and a smile two days after what most American's thought of as a travesty.
A Freaking mass murder where our leader in chief was more concerned about his appearance than the American lives that were taken.
Tell me that's acceptable as an American and I'll tell you to fuch off.
That's not what we're about and you know it.
Yeah, that was a stupid thing to do. I'll grant you that. Apparently, the family supports Trump.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/orphan-thumbs-up/
Post by: Weepy on August 16, 2019, 04:06:59 pm
Eustis is in Lake County FL and the Lake commissioners just voted 3/2 to accept a controversial confederate statue of a guy who likely never set foot in Lake County. The county's mayors are real pizzed off about the decision.
Lake has a long history of racism at it's finest. https://psmag.com/social-justice/the-most-dangerous-place-to-be-black-64206
Lakeland (Polk County) remains commercial/industrial, that area is epicenter to Florida's vast agricultural shipping and inbound warehousing operations. There are some very nice areas though, plenty of lakes, golf and Joker Marchant Stadium where every day is a good day win or lose.
https://www.mlb.com/tigers/spring-training/ballpark
Forgot about this post. Ok, thanks. I been by Marchant stadium and it is nice to have a spring training facility in the city. The city looked like it went thru a huge transition since the 1980s, was blue collar feel back then...
Everytime I hear of Lakeland in national media 95% of the time it is related to Detroit Tigers...
Post by: Realtime on August 17, 2019, 08:12:54 am
Forgot about this post. Ok, thanks. I been by Marchant stadium and it is nice to have a spring training facility in the city. The city looked like it went thru a huge transition since the 1980s, was blue collar feel back then...The poor Tigers, my home team btw, don't get much press these days except when they trade their pitchers away, Scherzer (Nationals). Verlander (Astros).
Everytime I hear of Lakeland in national media 95% of the time it is related to Detroit Tigers...
Lakeland is in Polk County which is very frequently in the news due to it's star struck sheriff Grady Judd and his assault on sex offenders most of whom quickly go free quickly and have all charges dropped or dismissed. It's Showbiz Folks__To Catch A Predator w/Chris Hansen was produced mostly in Polk County because Florida laws allow for such nonsense and Judd loves the camera.
Post by: Weepy on August 17, 2019, 12:24:38 pm
The poor Tigers, my home team btw, don't get much press these days except when they trade their pitchers away, Scherzer (Nationals). Verlander (Astros).
Lakeland is in Polk County which is very frequently in the news due to it's star struck sheriff Grady Judd and his assault on sex offenders most of whom quickly go free quickly and have all charges dropped or dismissed. It's Showbiz Folks__To Catch A Predator w/Chris Hansen was produced mostly in Polk County because Florida laws allow for such nonsense and Judd loves the camera.
I have been to Winter Haven and Haines City, which also once had spring training facilities nearby back when I lived down there. Very familiar with Polk County, at least the Polk of 1989. I was in Kissimmee, next to Disney World, even worked there briefly in 1989. I could not really handle life down there at the time with no vehicle of my own, the lightning was scary. One time caddied with my brother and lightning would fly and we had no shelter nearby...
Post by: Realtime on August 17, 2019, 02:12:21 pm
I have been to Winter Haven and Haines City, which also once had spring training facilities nearby back when I lived down there. Very familiar with Polk County, at least the Polk of 1989. I was in Kissimmee, next to Disney World, even worked there briefly in 1989. I could not really handle life down there at the time with no vehicle of my own, the lightning was scary. One time caddied with my brother and lightning would fly and we had no shelter nearby...Haines City was the KC Royals and Bo Jackson, loved that stadium and the adjacent Baseball and Boardwalk amusement area. Just across I=4 to the North is a sprawling area known as Davenport FL/4 Corners
You would not believe Kissimmee these days, it's huge and at least 75% Hispanic.
https://www.visitdavenportflorida.com/
Post by: Weepy on August 17, 2019, 02:18:09 pm
Haines City was the KC Royals and Bo Jackson, loved that stadium and the adjacent Baseball and Boardwalk amusement area. Just across I=4 to the North is a sprawling area known as Davenport FL/4 Corners
You would not believe Kissimmee these days, it's huge and at least 75% Hispanic.
https://www.visitdavenportflorida.com/
Is 4 corners where the four counties touch? There was nothing there in 1989.
I was in Kissimmee in 2004 last and it was different than it was 15 years earlier. It was less than 10% Hisanic in 1989 and was almost all white...
I remember the amusement park where the Royals played, never visited it despite being less than 20 miles away...
Went to two Astros games, that was all...
Post by: Weepy on August 17, 2019, 03:45:12 pm
Haines City was the KC Royals and Bo Jackson, loved that stadium and the adjacent Baseball and Boardwalk amusement area. Just across I=4 to the North is a sprawling area known as Davenport FL/4 Corners
You would not believe Kissimmee these days, it's huge and at least 75% Hispanic.
https://www.visitdavenportflorida.com/
I liked it back in the day when all the US Highway route shields were in color in Florida, why did they change it back to white on black signs? Those signs made the area look attractive I thought. 17 was yellow, 92 was blue 192 was green 441 was brown, all went through Kissimmee....
Post by: Realtime on August 19, 2019, 03:27:30 pm
Amazing eh? That a bunch of little kids and their parents could slip out of Venezuela and find their way all the way to
the most nazi loving redneck part of Pennsylvania and the national spotlight. Hmmm.
Post by: purplelady1040 on August 19, 2019, 04:05:59 pm
So, speaking of baseball, I'm sitting here watching the Little League World Series teams from Mexico and Venezuela face off in Willimsport PA. Yes, that Venezuela, which this year won it's regional title and represents Latin America.Lol, yep!!!
Amazing eh? That a bunch of little kids and their parents could slip out of Venezuela and find their way all the way to
the most nazi loving redneck part of Pennsylvania and the national spotlight. Hmmm.
Post by: Teaman on August 19, 2019, 05:06:01 pm
So, speaking of baseball, I'm sitting here watching the Little League World Series teams from Mexico and Venezuela face off in Willimsport PA. Yes, that Venezuela, which this year won it's regional title and represents Latin America.
Amazing eh? That a bunch of little kids and their parents could slip out of Venezuela and find their way all the way to
the most nazi loving redneck part of Pennsylvania and the national spotlight. Hmmm.
You can thank Rougned Odor for that. He paid for their Visas. Visas would be the legal method. Keyword being legal.
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/texas-rangers/rangers/2019/08/05/rougned-odor-funds-visas-venezuelan-team-play-little-league-world-series
The only Nazi here is Maduro.
Post by: Realtime on August 20, 2019, 08:56:51 am
You can thank Rougned Odor for that. He paid for their Visas. Visas would be the legal method. Keyword being legal.By Christian Alexandersen | calexandersen@pennlive.com
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/texas-rangers/rangers/2019/08/05/rougned-odor-funds-visas-venezuelan-team-play-little-league-world-series
The only Nazi here is Maduro.
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Pennsylvania, established as a haven for freedom, has become one of the most hate-filled states in the country due to the growing population of hate groups.
https://www.pennlive.com/news/2016/02/the_hateful_state_pennsylvania.html
Post by: Teaman on August 20, 2019, 09:18:52 am
By Christian Alexandersen | calexandersen@pennlive.com
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Pennsylvania, established as a haven for freedom, has become one of the most hate-filled states in the country due to the growing population of hate groups.
https://www.pennlive.com/news/2016/02/the_hateful_state_pennsylvania.html
Southern Poverty Law Center? smh Although they did some good in the past dismantling the Klan, that's not who they are now. They've become a far left wing group. The Washington Post, among others, published news indicating they've lost all credibility.
Post by: Weepy on August 20, 2019, 12:32:28 pm
NY has similar landscape in the areas near PA...
Post by: Texas Pete on August 21, 2019, 12:04:11 pm
Pennsylvania is one of my least favorite states to travel, kinda old and rusty from its years of steel mills and coal mining. I went to Niagara Falls once and the PA portion of the trip was like traveling to a funeral, WV looked much prettier in comparison, WV takes better care of the scenery around the interstates, vast majority of overpasses in PA was rusty and youhad to go a couple miles off the interstate to get to food and gas etc with one or two exceptions..All the dead trees along the Turnpike in Pa is eerie as hell!
NY has similar landscape in the areas near PA...
Post by: Realtime on September 06, 2019, 10:01:52 am
Today 8:30 a.m.
U.S. employers added a modest 130,000 jobs in August, a sign that global economic weakness and President Donald Trump’s trade war with China may have begun to slow hiring.
The job gains were lifted by the temporary hiring of 25,000 government workers for the 2020 Census. Excluding all government hiring, businesses added 96,000 jobs, the fewest since May.
The Labor Department says the unemployment rate remained 3.7%, near the lowest level in five decades, for the third straight month. The rate was flat for a positive reason: Americans surged into the workforce, lifting the proportion of adults working or looking for work to its highest level since February.
Post by: Realtime on September 06, 2019, 10:07:15 am
The Trump GOP takeover is now complete!
Post by: MAGA on September 06, 2019, 11:52:27 am
Post by: Weepy on September 06, 2019, 12:49:22 pm
The GOP has quashed all caucuses and primaries relative to the 2020 general election handing Trump (literally) the nomination.
The Trump GOP takeover is now complete!
They are indeed scared of Trump looking like a buffoon, he already is one. I bet Trump will avoid debating the Democrat in the general as well, for same reason.
But there is plenty of time between now and the 2020 election, lots of things will go down before we get to that point...
Post by: Texas Pete on September 10, 2019, 12:51:23 pm
Post by: Weepy on September 10, 2019, 01:34:54 pm
Why do only the best people keep getting fired? RIP John Bolton.LOL..
Bolton is scum from a different time, those two hard heads deserved each other...
Post by: Realtime on September 10, 2019, 03:16:53 pm
LOL..One of Cheney's neocons that lead the nation blindly into Iraq based on fabricated evidence (lies).
Bolton is scum from a different time, those two hard heads deserved each other...
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2007/03/whitehouse200703
Worse, he (Bolton) is a FOX darling__or was.
Post by: purplelady1040 on September 10, 2019, 08:35:19 pm
Post by: NC Yankee on September 11, 2019, 10:58:22 pm
https://news.yahoo.com/supreme-court-allows-broad-enforcement-222044549.html?soc_src=newsroom&soc_trk=com.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard&.tsrc=newsroom
We can finally stop being a never-ending poverty dumping ground. We should take the best and brightest from Latin America, not welfare cases.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 11, 2019, 11:08:06 pm
Post by: NC Yankee on September 12, 2019, 10:51:26 am
I'm pretty sure Latin American nations wouldn't appreciate it america was constantly sending them never-ending hordes of homeless people by the millions annually to care and provide for. Actually Mexicans don't appreciate all the folks from Central America flooding their country. People are usually generous until that generosity gets taken advantage of. Almost none of these people qualify for asylum and they know it, but they don't care. The system is so backlogged for legitimate asylum seekers that this arrangement is unfair to them. It's also unfair to all the people who come to America legally. It's also unfair to Americans who are stuck paying for poverty hordes to continuously flood America in violation of our laws.
If one feels otherwise and feels they are informed, use your words like a big boy or girl and explain why. It's okay. I might be brutally honest and speak uncomfortable truths, but I don't bite.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 12, 2019, 11:00:05 am
First, an asylum applicant must establish that he or she fears persecution from their Government in their home country. Second, the applicant must prove that he or she would be persecuted on account of one of five protected grounds: race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or particular social group
Seeming out better economic opportunities doesn't qualify.
Fleeing gang violence doesn't qualify.
Your husband beating you, doesn't qualify.
These people are abusing the system and they know it. They are coached on what to say and they have known for a long time that if they come they will not be granted asylum, but will still be released into America where they place massive burdens on American society because they are so impoverished and uneducated .. they will also never go back. America isn't a giant refugee camp for them and this isn't the 1800s where we needed cheap labor to flood America, had a lot of land that needed to be settle and could be bought cheaply, had railroads to build, factors to build and man, and basically a huge land mass that needed to be developed.
We have much less of a need for masses of poverty to flood our nation and its to our detriment to do so. To the extent we need cheap labor we, Americans, should decide exactly how much we need and it should be controlled and regulated, not a free for all where Latin Americans control it.
These are all common sense things I share.
Post by: Teaman on September 12, 2019, 04:15:36 pm
https://www.history.com/news/what-was-the-shot-heard-round-the-world
You wonder why thre is a second amendment.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 12, 2019, 07:19:34 pm
Off subject but an interesting irony. The American Revolution began with the "shot heard around the world" at Lexington and Concord, Mass. when British troops were sent there to seize weapons and ammunition.
https://www.history.com/news/what-was-the-shot-heard-round-the-world
You wonder why thre is a second amendment.
There would be a massive armed uprising if they tried.
We should do back ground checks on private sales and if even be ok with banning private sales and making all sales go through a dealer. If someone wants to sell a gun to someone they can sell it to a dealer and the dealer can do the background check and sell it to the person. I'm okay with that, but getting rid of the 2nd amendment will never happen. That would be the last straw and the ties that bind us would be dissolved.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 12, 2019, 07:22:29 pm
That would be the last straw and the ties that bind us would be dissolved.
I don't even own any guns, but I won't give up the right give up the right without bloodshed. I'm willing to die for it. I'm willing to kill for it. I know lots of people like this. If liberals don't like it they can get the eff out of my country.
Post by: Teaman on September 12, 2019, 08:09:16 pm
There would be a massive armed uprising if they tried.
We should do back ground checks on private sales and if even be ok with banning private sales and making all sales go through a dealer. If someone wants to sell a gun to someone they can sell it to a dealer and the dealer can do the background check and sell it to the person. I'm okay with that, but getting rid of the 2nd amendment will never happen. That would be the last straw and the ties that bind us would be dissolved.
That is already required in NJ. I don't have a problem with that either. I don't have a problem with red flag laws as long as there is a judicial process involved.
https://lawcenter.giffords.org/private-sales-in-new-jersey/
Post by: NC Yankee on September 12, 2019, 11:23:42 pm
That is already required in NJ. I don't have a problem with that either. I don't have a problem with red flag laws as long as there is a judicial process involved.
https://lawcenter.giffords.org/private-sales-in-new-jersey/
That's still probably not good enough for the left. As soon as folks give them an inch and give up some gun rights, they'll demand a mile. We went from them demanding gay marriage and right after that was granted the next day overnight they demanded dudes who wish they were girls to play in girls sports and to shower with them. Now if you don't support that you are just as much of a bigot as people who didn't used to support gay marriage according to liberals.
Remember when it used to be LBG, then as they got more rights that wasn't good enough and more "oppressed" "victims" started crawling out of the woodwork demand tonget their way and it became LBGQT and as transsexuals got their way now it's LGBTQQIAAP and who the eff knows when the letter ending will stop.
L - lesbian: a woman who is attracted to other women
G - gay: a man who is attracted to other men or broadly people who identify as homosexual
B - bisexual: a person who is attracted to both men and women
T - transgender: a person whose gender identity is different from the sex the doctor put down on their birth certificate
Q - queer: originally used as a hate term, some people want to reclaim the word, while others find it offensive. It can be a political statement, suggest that someone doesn't want to identify with "binaries" (e.g. male v female, homosexual v straight) or that they don't want to label themselves only by their sexual activity
Q - questioning: a person who is still exploring their sexuality or gender identity
I - intersex: a person whose body is not definitively male or female. This may be because they have chromosomes which are not XX or XY or because their genitals or reproductive organs are not considered "standard"
A - allies: a person who identifies as straight but supports people in the LGBTQQIAAP community
A - asexual: a person who is not attracted in a sexual way to people of any gender
P - pansexual: a person whose sexual attraction is not based on gender and may themselves be fluid when it comes to gender or sexual identity
It's nuts, but this is mainstream liberal thinking.. it's like the mental patients are running the effin asylum.
I know nothing about the show, but I even saw this headline yesterday and was like oh boy what did they say:
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/real-housewives-dorinda-medley-sonja-morgan-apologize-transphobic-new-york-fashion-week-185115840.html?soc_src=newsroom&soc_trk=com.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard&.tsrc=newsroom
^^ that's liberals for you and they wonder why folks don't want a liberal for president. They might not like trump, but at least he doesn't think calling a drag queen a dude is some phobia.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 13, 2019, 11:49:58 am
That is already required in NJ. I don't have a problem with that either. I don't have a problem with red flag laws as long as there is a judicial process involved.
https://lawcenter.giffords.org/private-sales-in-new-jersey/
That is already required in NJ. I don't have a problem with that either. I don't have a problem with red flag laws as long as there is a judicial process involved.
https://lawcenter.giffords.org/private-sales-in-new-jersey/
https://news.yahoo.com/beto-o-rourke-ar-robert-francis-tweet-death-threat-fbi-140045177.html?soc_src=newsroom&soc_trk=com.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard&.tsrc=newsroom
This is what they really want, make no mistake about it. It starts with AR-15s. It's not like once they forcibly confiscate AR-15s anti-gun activists are gonna retire and be happy. Nope. They won't say O've fought the good fight and won and now my work her is done. Instead they will have a new list of demands as soon as they get their way on AR-15.
This has been going around a lot:
National Guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed by elements of a Para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.
Speaking after the clash, Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement. Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group’s organizers as “criminals,” issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government’s efforts to secure law and order. The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons.
Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting in early this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms. One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that “none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily.” Government troops initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government’s plans.
During a tense standoff in the Lexington town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists. Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange. Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, anrmed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units. Colonel Smith, finding his forces over matched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat.
Governor Gage has called upon citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. The governor also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against the government troops.
Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and John Hancock, who have been identified as “ringleaders” of the extremist faction, remain at large. And this fellow Americans, is how the American Revolution began, April 20, 1775.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 13, 2019, 11:56:50 am
"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child — miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
P.J. O'Rourke
Like a spoiled child, liberals are never happy even when they get their way. They immediately start thinking of what they can ask for next. Give them an inch and they immediately demand a mile. Don't give them an inch. It still won't make them satisfied. It still won't make them tolerate you. The only thing that will make them tolerate you is if you keep giving in to their increasing demands. It happens in so many contexts. It's not just guns.
Civil rights ... gay rights ... guns ... welfare programs ... every single time you agree with them it's just used as a launch pad by liberals to demand even more. Civics rights movement ... we made a lot of progress and now they complain about "micro-aggressions" and having gifted programs in NYC that minorities can't get into ... so now they want to get rid of it in NYC so that everyone gets dumbed down to the lowest common denominator,
Post by: NC Yankee on September 13, 2019, 12:13:09 pm
Post by: Teaman on September 13, 2019, 12:52:41 pm
https://news.yahoo.com/beto-o-rourke-ar-robert-francis-tweet-death-threat-fbi-140045177.html?soc_src=newsroom&soc_trk=com.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard&.tsrc=newsroom
This is what they really want, make no mistake about it. It starts with AR-15s. It's not like once they forcibly confiscate AR-15s anti-gun activists are gonna retire and be happy. Nope. They won't say O've fought the good fight and won and now my work her is done. Instead they will have a new list of demands as soon as they get their way on AR-15.
This has been going around a lot:
National Guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed by elements of a Para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.
Speaking after the clash, Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement. Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group’s organizers as “criminals,” issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government’s efforts to secure law and order. The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons.
Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting in early this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms. One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that “none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily.” Government troops initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government’s plans.
During a tense standoff in the Lexington town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists. Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange. Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, anrmed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units. Colonel Smith, finding his forces over matched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat.
Governor Gage has called upon citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. The governor also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against the government troops.
Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and John Hancock, who have been identified as “ringleaders” of the extremist faction, remain at large. And this fellow Americans, is how the American Revolution began, April 20, 1775.
Pretty good analogy. The irony I was pointing out earlier.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 13, 2019, 12:59:39 pm
If it ever gets close to banning AR-15s I'm gonna buy a bunch of them before the ban kicks in and a bunch of ammo and a bunch of other guns ... cause I know it won't stop there and that's just the beginning ... and I don't even own any guns. So practical effect of banning guns will be just to make more people buy them and become even more radical.
Remember every single patriot in the revolutionary war and all the founding fathers would be right wing extremists by the standards of liberals today. They absolutely despise the principals of our nation's founding fathers. They don't like freedom because freedom allows other people to make different choices than them and doesn't allow them to use other people for their purposes and there is nothing more they can't stand more than that. They would have all fought for the crown. After the war a lot of them were kicked out of the country. Lost all their land and all their possessions.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 13, 2019, 01:01:57 pm
Pretty good analogy. The irony I was pointing out earlier.
Yup! It's great. My ancestors were here at the time. My last name changed by one letter somewhere along the way, but my family surname served in the revolution. My direct line and relatives. One was a light dragoon. My ancestors fought and fought for the right to bear arms and I won't give it up. Not ever.
Post by: Teaman on September 13, 2019, 01:07:17 pm
Yup! It's great. My ancestors were here at the time. My last name changed by one letter somewhere along the way, but my family surname served in the revolution. My direct line and relatives. One was a light dragoon. My ancestors fought and fought for the right to bear arms and I won't give it up. Not ever.
My ancestors didn't show up until the Civil War. I believe a potato famine caused it. lol
Post by: NC Yankee on September 13, 2019, 01:22:28 pm
My ancestors didn't show up until the Civil War. I believe a potato famine caused it. lol
Some of mine came here around that time too. From the county Clare in far western Ireland.
Post by: Realtime on September 13, 2019, 02:35:12 pm
There would be a massive armed uprising if they tried.So you're like most then, copy that post and send it to your congressman/senator.
We should do back ground checks on private sales and if even be ok with banning private sales and making all sales go through a dealer. If someone wants to sell a gun to someone they can sell it to a dealer and the dealer can do the background check and sell it to the person. I'm okay with that, but getting rid of the 2nd amendment will never happen. That would be the last straw and the ties that bind us would be dissolved.
None of that sht is getting done__not a bit of it__nada, zip, zilch. All R's and many D's are afraid of being denied their easy breezy NRA contribution.
BTW most is 50% plus one.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 13, 2019, 03:20:52 pm
So you're like most then, copy that post and send it to your congressman/senator.
None of that sht is getting done__not a bit of it__nada, zip, zilch. All R's and many D's are afraid of being denied their easy breezy NRA contribution.
BTW most is 50% plus one.
Like I said if we give an inch, it's just a launch pad for liberals to demand a mile. What's worse if you then don't agree to give them the mile, you are just as awful according to liberals as you were before you agreed to give them an inch. I could give you example after example after example of this in many different contexts until the cows come home. When it comes to something as fundamental as the right to self defense and bear arms, I'm not willing to give an inch only for that not to be good enough as soon as I agree to it.. I know where it leads to. If you don't like it blame all the liberal activists. I am on to them. They don't StFU once they get their way. They scream louder and for more and more.
What's the point of agreeing to it when you will just immediately turn around and demand more. Also additional laws called for would have prevented almost none of the mass shootings. So it's not gonna have much of an effect and will just lead to ever increasing demands.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 13, 2019, 03:28:56 pm
You know it will play out like this and what I am saying is not without merit.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 13, 2019, 03:31:14 pm
If it ever gets close to banning AR-15s I'm gonna buy a bunch of them before the ban kicks in and a bunch of ammo and a bunch of other guns ... cause I know it won't stop there and that's just the beginning ... and I don't even own any guns. So practical effect of banning guns will be just to make more people buy them and become even more radical.
I mentioned the cobra effect the other day. ^^ this is it in action. Democrats are too knee jerk to think that far ahead, tho.
Post by: Teaman on September 13, 2019, 03:47:48 pm
Like I said if we give an inch, it's just a launch pad for liberals to demand a mile. What's worse if you then don't agree to give them the mile, you are just as awful according to liberals as you were before you agreed to give them an inch. I could give you example after example after example of this in many different contexts until the cows come home. When it comes to something as fundamental as the right to self defense and bear arms, I'm not willing to give an inch only for that not to be good enough as soon as I agree to it.. I know where it leads to. If you don't like it blame all the liberal activists. I am on to them. They don't StFU once they get their way. They scream louder and for more and more.
What's the point of agreeing to it when you will just immediately turn around and demand more. Also additional laws called for would have prevented almost none of the mass shootings. So it's not gonna have much of an effect and will just lead to ever increasing demands.
No one has defined what a loophole is.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 13, 2019, 03:48:23 pm
Right now liberals want to close loopholes for background checks. If we keep saying nope, they will be too occupied b1tching about this issue to make even further demands. << that's much better than agreeing to their current demands only for them to demand more once you agree.
You know it will play out like this and what I am saying is not without merit.
If we agree to ban AR-15s, they will demand other guns be banned ... next thing you know they will demand to ban a glock 19 handgun cause it holds 10 bullets and a person with one or a couple of those and a few extra clips can do a lot of damage. Then once they ban that and people start using handguns with less bullets, they will demand those are banned. Also just like they say the only purpose of an AR 15 is to kill people ... the only purpose of a handgun is to shoot people if need be. You don't go hunting with a handgun. What else you gonna use it for but to shoot someone if you have to?
Then once they ban all guns, you'd think they would be happy and say yay we won the good fight and have a beer to celebrate and then retire from whining about the need to ban things, but I have bad news for you, that still won't be good enough. In England stores have banned the sale of knives because of stabbings. It never ends I tell you.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 13, 2019, 03:50:57 pm
No one has defined what a loophole is.
Even if they did they'd think of more that need to be closed a split second after we reach consensus to close the ones they currently don't like, until you can only buy butter knives.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 13, 2019, 03:55:22 pm
Post by: Teaman on September 13, 2019, 04:03:02 pm
I can already see them arguing "what do you need a hand gun with 10 bullets in it for ... the only purpose of that is to kill a bunch of innocent people at once."
I like (not) how someone determines what another one needs. I don't think they need tha big house they're in or bodyguards, or expensive cars, and so on. Elitists and serfs.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 13, 2019, 04:07:35 pm
I like (not) how someone determines what another one needs. I don't think they need tha big house they're in or bodyguards, or expensive cars, and so on. Elitists and serfs.
Exactly. It's just like them lecturing people about the environment, while they own 5 mansions that they heat and cool and fly all over in private jets. "Do as I say, not as I do."
Post by: Jackie on September 14, 2019, 01:29:50 am
But if this proposed social credit system on purchasing guns goes through,, if they check any of my posts (opinions) about certain issues around the world, they might say I can't get one.
What a joke that would be.
Who knows what the social credit system can do????
I see China's Social Credit System, and they can't say anything about anything, but that is a communist country.
I hp[e this country never has a Social Credit System, I don't see how it can, this is a free country.
Post by: Realtime on September 14, 2019, 07:48:42 am
Right now liberals want to close loopholes for background checks. If we keep saying nope, they will be too occupied b1tching about this issue to make even further demands. << that's much better than agreeing to their current demands only for them to demand more once you agree.Not Libruls, depending on which poll you like between 70 and 80 percent of Americans want stronger background checks including 65% of NRA members.
You know it will play out like this and what I am saying is not without merit.
Should never have let this expire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban
Post by: NC Yankee on September 14, 2019, 12:35:25 pm
Not Libruls, depending on which poll you like between 70 and 80 percent of Americans want stronger background checks including 65% of NRA members.
Should never have let this expire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban
I would support it too if I didn't know that ultimately it will just be used as a launchpad for more and more restrictions, like this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_v._City_of_Chicago
Was only over turned because of the Supreme Court, and trust me they will keep pushing the envelope to see how close they can get to a complete ban. I highly doubt many people in that poll of yours who believe in the right to bear arms have thought this far ahead.
I'd be for better mental health screening. I am for red flag laws connected to mental health and provided it isn't based on one's views and whether liberals think you are an extremist or not. I don't see such a slippery slope there if we do a better job keeping guns out of certified mentally unstable people.
I personally don't think a lot of people should own guns ... I feel a lot more shouldn't than would be screened out by mental health reasons, but to me it's an important enough right that this trumps my feelings about this. I don't really like guns. That's why I don't own any. To me the risks aren't worth ownership and I don't really feel I need one for self defense.
I even told my brother he shouldn't own a gun cause he's not very good at controlling his temper when he gets angry. I will vent verbally when I am really angry. He starts breaking and throwing shit and has done worse than that. I told my whole family he shouldn't have his gun at my parents house and I told him that and said I don't want to be around him with a gun. If you have self control issues, you shouldn't own a gun, IMO. I don't know how you legislate that though without it going too far.
There are adverse costs to the right to bear arms, for sure, but it's a very important right I feel. A lack of an ability of folks to defend themselves has caused more genocide and death than all mass shootings ever by a factor of a hundreds of thousands. Who knows what kind of government we will have in 200 years and how it will behave. Who knows what the world will look like. I think people should have the right to overthrow their government when it goes too far ... that may not be possible without the right to bear arms.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 14, 2019, 12:42:42 pm
I would support it too if I didn't know that ultimately it will just be used as a launchpad for more and more restrictions, like this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_v._City_of_Chicago
Was only over turned because of the Supreme Court, and trust me they will keep pushing the envelope to see how close they can get to a complete ban. I highly doubt many people in that poll of yours who believe in the right to bear arms have thought this far ahead.
I'd be for better mental health screening. I am for red flag laws connected to mental health and provided it isn't based on one's views and whether liberals think you are an extremist or not. I don't see such a slippery slope there if we do a better job keeping guns out of certified mentally unstable people.
I personally don't think a lot of people should own guns ... I feel a lot more shouldn't than would be screened out by mental health reasons, but to me it's an important enough right that this trumps my feelings about this. I don't really like guns. That's why I don't own any. To me the risks aren't worth ownership and I don't really feel I need one for self defense.
I even told my brother he shouldn't own a gun cause he's not very good at controlling his temper when he gets angry. I will vent verbally when I am really angry. He starts breaking and throwing **** and has done worse than that. I told my whole family he shouldn't have his gun at my parents house and I told him that and said I don't want to be around him with a gun. If you have self control issues, you shouldn't own a gun, IMO. I don't know how you legislate that though without it going too far.
There are adverse costs to the right to bear arms, for sure, but it's a very important right I feel. A lack of an ability of folks to defend themselves has caused more genocide and death than all mass shootings ever by a factor of a hundreds of thousands. Who knows what kind of government we will have in 200 years and how it will behave. Who knows what the world will look like. I think people should have the right to overthrow their government when it goes too far ... that may not be possible without the right to bear arms.
I'm okay with holding people liable for not securing their weapons and taking reasonable precautions to keep them out of the hands of people who should not have them. I think the mother of the Sandy Hook shooter should have been charged had she not been killed too. To me it's not reasonable to allow an child like that free access to guns. She should have had a secured combination lock so he couldn't get ahold of them. She would still be alive and so would all those kids.
I am also okay with closing any loop holes that allow private sales without a background check. Again that is mental health and a violent felon and such shouldn't own guns.
There are things we can do that may help, but bans are a slippery slope that will ultimately imperil the right to bear arms.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 14, 2019, 12:44:36 pm
I never owned a gun, but always wanted to purchase a small handgun for my self protection, if I ever need it.
But if this proposed social credit system on purchasing guns goes through,, if they check any of my posts (opinions) about certain issues around the world, they might say I can't get one.
What a joke that would be.
Who knows what the social credit system can do????
I see China's Social Credit System, and they can't say anything about anything, but that is a communist country.
I hp[e this country never has a Social Credit System, I don't see how it can, this is a free country.
If we had a credit score for nations, China would be pretty low. They are a bully. They lie, they cheat, and they steal, and treat their own people like they are serfs.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 14, 2019, 12:59:12 pm
Do I think we are gonna have to overthrow the government anytime soon or in the next 200 years, no I don't. I think it's quite remote, but it's an insurance policy. No one knows what the future holds.
Post by: Realtime on September 14, 2019, 03:37:34 pm
I would support it too if I didn't know that ultimately it will just be used as a launchpad for more and more restrictions, like this:That's a windy response. So, what you're saying is that you're malleable on gun control. I like that.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald_v._City_of_Chicago
Was only over turned because of the Supreme Court, and trust me they will keep pushing the envelope to see how close they can get to a complete ban. I highly doubt many people in that poll of yours who believe in the right to bear arms have thought this far ahead.
I'd be for better mental health screening. I am for red flag laws connected to mental health and provided it isn't based on one's views and whether liberals think you are an extremist or not. I don't see such a slippery slope there if we do a better job keeping guns out of certified mentally unstable people.
I personally don't think a lot of people should own guns ... I feel a lot more shouldn't than would be screened out by mental health reasons, but to me it's an important enough right that this trumps my feelings about this. I don't really like guns. That's why I don't own any. To me the risks aren't worth ownership and I don't really feel I need one for self defense.
I even told my brother he shouldn't own a gun cause he's not very good at controlling his temper when he gets angry. I will vent verbally when I am really angry. He starts breaking and throwing **** and has done worse than that. I told my whole family he shouldn't have his gun at my parents house and I told him that and said I don't want to be around him with a gun. If you have self control issues, you shouldn't own a gun, IMO. I don't know how you legislate that though without it going too far.
There are adverse costs to the right to bear arms, for sure, but it's a very important right I feel. A lack of an ability of folks to defend themselves has caused more genocide and death than all mass shootings ever by a factor of a hundreds of thousands. Who knows what kind of government we will have in 200 years and how it will behave. Who knows what the world will look like. I think people should have the right to overthrow their government when it goes too far ... that may not be possible without the right to bear arms.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 14, 2019, 04:08:53 pm
For certain things yeah. Not for bans.
Nice chatting with you.
Post by: NC Yankee on September 15, 2019, 07:50:48 pm
https://news.yahoo.com/joe-bidens-story-confronting-gang-183309026.html?soc_src=newsroom&soc_trk=com.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard&.tsrc=newsroom
Is this an onion article?
Post by: NC Yankee on September 15, 2019, 08:10:22 pm
Haha haha:
https://news.yahoo.com/joe-bidens-story-confronting-gang-183309026.html?soc_src=newsroom&soc_trk=com.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard&.tsrc=newsroom
Is this an onion article?
Lmao @ When you want to show corn pop you're not an easy mark
https://t.co/xSMDiwNgs1
Post by: The General on September 26, 2019, 08:47:32 pm
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on October 04, 2019, 10:00:48 pm
https://youtu.be/QAZDzanaLeI
Post by: Jackie on December 13, 2019, 09:08:29 pm
Post by: Jackie on December 13, 2019, 09:11:09 pm
Post by: Jackie on December 14, 2019, 06:23:20 pm
Is Queen Elizabeth Really Planning To Step Down in 2021?
Post by: Jackie on January 07, 2020, 01:09:49 am
Trying to ban the words he and she in the English Language. This is transgender Extremism!
Post by: Jackie on January 07, 2020, 01:23:40 am
USA Today article, 1/2/20
USA TODAY: #METOO FOR THE BOARDROOM: CALIFORNIA GENDER DIVERSITY LAW COULD LEAD TO MORE WOMEN QUOTAS NATIONALLY
So whats next, if someone says he or she they get a fine or go to jail!
Never say what's next!
So what are we if we are not he's or she's ? This is absurd!
I believe in womens, or trans or anybodys equal rights, but banning the words he and she is Extreme!
This article just talks of hiring more women on boards, which is only fair. So this is a good thing.
But the above article talks of banning he and she words in the English language, this is not a good thing.
Post by: Jackie on January 07, 2020, 01:25:55 am
Post by: Jackie on January 07, 2020, 02:32:56 am
Post by: Jackie on January 07, 2020, 02:34:47 am
From a poster from above video.
Spark
1 month ago
Wtf is a ze, Zim, Sie, Zie, Zir, Ey, Em, Per, is that like some rare mental disease
Post by: Jackie on January 07, 2020, 02:42:36 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiijS_9hPkM
I'm a goat! lol So that better be put to the english language! LOL Add that to legislature. lol
Never say whats next.
Post by: Jackie on January 07, 2020, 02:58:06 am
CANADA’S GENDER IDENTITY RIGHTS BILL C-16 EXPLAINED
Post by: Jackie on January 07, 2020, 03:01:22 am
I'm just getting wind of all this now.
I really don't understand it all. ???
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 20, 2020, 01:43:30 pm
I work at a University and have to be super careful about pronouns. Just how it is.I think it today's world, one has to be politically correct and not offend anyone on that. Would you say that is the case in your position at your job?
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 20, 2020, 05:27:37 pm
Oh my gosh - yes! I'm an Advisor. So, I am working directly with students from all walks of life.That's a cool job! I wanted to have a job like that but I decided to work with younger kids, like middle school kids for my career and to try and keep them out of trouble with the law.
Post by: purplelady1040 on January 20, 2020, 06:43:26 pm
I love it. I love this generation of kids too. I brought all of my kids up to think for themselves.We do our kids that way and tell them they can do whatever they want as long as they stay out of trouble with the law .
Post by: Jackie on January 21, 2020, 07:56:09 pm
I work at a University and have to be super careful about pronouns. Just how it is.
Hi! Welcome to the board.
Post by: Mark J on March 05, 2020, 04:00:10 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 05, 2020, 04:05:15 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 05, 2020, 04:12:20 pm
Post by: Quills on March 06, 2020, 06:24:59 am
Hi! Welcome to the board.
Do you plan on "dusting" this place out and making something out of it?
Post by: Quills on March 06, 2020, 09:37:32 am
Do you think they should address Biden's fitness?
No absolutely not, I heard it on CNN last night, he is healthy as the horse...a horse.
Post by: Quills on March 06, 2020, 05:43:57 pm
Do you think they should address Biden's unfitness?
MSNBC also said Biden is as healthy as a Horse! ....Ha! Did you know Biden has never had a real job! Ok, well maybe the Lifeguard job, where the kids rubbed his leg....but that's it!
Post by: Quills on March 06, 2020, 05:44:57 pm
The US is out of leaders. No one is steering the ship.... no one is sure if the ship even has a rudder anymore.
You did notice the rule for this thread?
Post by: Quills on March 06, 2020, 08:32:24 pm
He will never be able to take on Trump.
He won't make November 3rd. !
Post by: Jackie on March 08, 2020, 02:23:01 pm
Do you plan on "dusting" this place out and making something out of it?
Don't understand your comment.
Post by: Quills on March 08, 2020, 05:24:45 pm
Don't understand your comment.
This thread has been abandoned, since you have the "midas" touch? Why do something with it?
Post by: Jackie on March 10, 2020, 05:28:34 pm
This thread has been abandoned, since you have the "midas" touch? Why do something with it?
Midas touch? Do something with it? I still dont understand?
Post by: Quills on March 14, 2020, 06:25:13 pm
He will be disqualified or indicted and the people that care the most for him are going to be disappointed.... People like Faith.
It appears to me, at this point, he may even be "controlled opposition" !
Post by: Quills on March 14, 2020, 11:17:08 pm
You mean like Obama and Hillary and Pelosi, etc pulling strings.....?
No, not really. Biden is nothing more then a puppet on a string! ...a crash & burn, at a moments notice!
Post by: Mark J on March 17, 2020, 09:42:56 am
Post by: Mark J on March 17, 2020, 09:45:14 am
Post by: Realtime on March 17, 2020, 11:11:43 am
"...Evangelical leader denounces Trump for calling coronavirus the ‘Chinese virus’...."Yeah, the main thread on this page is becoming lopsided with preverts, houligans and adjunct provacatuers but there's no escape from them and no joy in getting no responses.
Post by: Texas Pete on March 17, 2020, 12:13:17 pm
Post by: Jimmy on March 17, 2020, 01:01:55 pm
Yeah, the main thread on this page is becoming lopsided with preverts, houligans and adjunct provacatuers but there's no escape from them and no joy in getting no responses.
Reminds me of the old Topix. ;)
If you get something going on this thread they'll just come and pizz on it too.
Post by: Mark J on March 17, 2020, 08:47:09 pm
There really is nothing that trump will not lie about.
Post by: Mark J on March 17, 2020, 08:50:33 pm
Yeah, the main thread on this page is becoming lopsided with preverts, houligans and adjunct provacatuers but there's no escape from them and no joy in getting no responses.
It is by design and nothing new on chat boards, it is what they learn to do. --- Swamp the bad news about republicans in pages of BS.
Post by: Mark J on March 17, 2020, 08:57:05 pm
Meanwhile, the president has told states scrambling for medical supplies that they’re on their own...."
Post by: anonymous on March 17, 2020, 10:29:10 pm
Trump will prevail despite the communist rhetoric he must endure.I do believe you would fellate trump if he would let you.
Post by: Mark J on March 17, 2020, 10:41:02 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 17, 2020, 10:49:15 pm
Post by: Jackie on March 17, 2020, 10:53:02 pm
"...Why Do the Airlines Need a Bailout? | They made a fortune over the past decade. Now they’re demanding $50 billion to stay in business...."
Alot of people making money on this virus! Like the toilet paper people.
Post by: Mark J on March 17, 2020, 10:59:48 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 18, 2020, 02:24:32 am
Post by: Texas Pete on March 18, 2020, 08:36:32 am
Alot of people making money on this virus! Like the toilet paper people.People are willingly hoarding the toilet paper.
Post by: Mark J on March 18, 2020, 12:16:50 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 18, 2020, 12:20:01 pm
Post by: Texas Pete on March 18, 2020, 03:13:37 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 18, 2020, 06:16:58 pm
Post by: Texas Pete on March 18, 2020, 06:35:30 pm
Post by: Jimmy on March 18, 2020, 07:28:20 pm
Even though so called Experts say Trump's decision to disband pandemic team hindered coronavirus response...", he has responded remarkably well to this evolving threat and has mobilized the entire nation to fight the virus....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK1jMHE1bkw
Post by: Mark J on March 18, 2020, 07:47:25 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 18, 2020, 08:15:25 pm
Three weeks ago, we learned an undergraduate student was hired for an influential White House post. Evidently, he wasn't the only one...."
Post by: Texas Pete on March 18, 2020, 10:04:01 pm
Post by: Teaman on March 18, 2020, 10:17:26 pm
Coronavirus Update: Michael Bloomberg pledges $40M to fight COVID-19
Just 40 million?
Post by: Mark J on March 19, 2020, 01:42:10 am
Post by: Mark J on March 19, 2020, 01:43:18 am
Post by: Mark J on March 19, 2020, 01:46:06 am
Post by: Mark J on March 19, 2020, 11:40:29 am
Post by: Mark J on March 19, 2020, 11:45:27 am
Post by: Mark J on March 19, 2020, 03:19:53 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 19, 2020, 03:22:32 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 19, 2020, 03:23:17 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 19, 2020, 03:24:57 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 19, 2020, 03:27:56 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 19, 2020, 05:03:53 pm
Trump is doing a great job.....better than any other president in our nation's entire history.....
More and more Democrats believe he will be reelected in a mega-landslide........as he keeps gaining support from them.....
At this point exactly who do you think will believe those lies?
You don't even believe it anymore.
Post by: Mark J on March 19, 2020, 06:30:22 pm
And there you go, the racism was intended. trump is desperately seeking a boogeyman to blame his failures on. -- Because he is a wussy.
Post by: Texas Pete on March 19, 2020, 07:13:40 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/VgulKNh.jpg)
Post by: Jackie on March 19, 2020, 11:21:44 pm
People are willingly hoarding the toilet paper.
Gotta get to the stores as soon as they open, and stand in line for it. Maybe ge to the stores 1 hour before they open.
Kinda reminds me of standing in line for a rock concert ticket for the best seats, but now its for TP. lol
Post by: Mark J on March 20, 2020, 08:30:00 am
So what do you think. jail time. take their millions, fire them, or just take them out in the alley for a good old fashioned asskicking?
Post by: Teaman on March 20, 2020, 10:30:01 am
How many Democrats did the same is what I think......
BTW Trump is doing a great job.
At least one. But, no one is going to look into them.
Pelosi's quid pro quo with Visa went without notice.
I don't know what Mark is complaining about. He wants big government.
Post by: Teaman on March 20, 2020, 10:30:49 am
Nonsense. Trump is a sociopath. He has turned our country into a laughing stock among nations, troll.
Proven?
Post by: Mark J on March 20, 2020, 02:49:07 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 20, 2020, 02:58:26 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 20, 2020, 03:10:17 pm
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Post by: Mark J on March 21, 2020, 08:46:07 am
Trump cannot logically be classified as a Republican. There is not enough coherence to is buffoonery. He is an ego-maniacal assclown.
Unfortunately, that IS the republican party right now. We are at the "destroy the city to save it" stage with that party.
Post by: Mark J on March 21, 2020, 08:46:57 am
Post by: Weepy on March 21, 2020, 05:14:34 pm
Trump will come out of this crisis as a hero....... Despite what the haters say.
Doubtful...
Post by: Mark J on March 22, 2020, 01:50:24 am
America has its own problems to worry about and the rest of the world has theirs and Trump is taking care of America, first and foremost.
It you had not picked up on it years before, Covid 19 should be a big clue that the world's problems ARE our problems.
Post by: Mark J on March 22, 2020, 02:01:48 am
Post by: Texas Pete on March 22, 2020, 08:06:45 am
Post by: Texas Pete on March 22, 2020, 08:34:40 am
Andy Borowitz
·
No one could have seen this coming except everyone who got briefed about it back in January.
Post by: Texas Pete on March 22, 2020, 09:21:46 am
Post by: Mark J on March 22, 2020, 09:30:05 am
Post by: Texas Pete on March 22, 2020, 12:14:04 pm
Post by: Texas Pete on March 22, 2020, 01:23:28 pm
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-writes-to-kim-jong-un-offering-help-in-virus-fight-north-korea-says/ar-BB11wg3x?ocid=sf
Post by: Mark J on March 22, 2020, 05:47:27 pm
'If he keeps lying like this every day on stuff this important, all of us should stop broadcasting it. Honestly, it's gonna cost lives'..."
Post by: Mark J on March 22, 2020, 09:32:25 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 22, 2020, 09:35:54 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 23, 2020, 09:33:51 pm
Post by: Mark J on March 23, 2020, 09:47:03 pm
Post by: Texas Pete on March 23, 2020, 09:56:12 pm
"...Trump’s claims that GM, Ford making ventilators ‘right now’ not true..."Trump wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the ass!
Post by: Mark J on March 23, 2020, 10:30:21 pm
Trump wouldn't know the truth if it bit him on the ass!
And that is the real problem we have, trump, and trump supporters, seem to think the truth is whatever they want it to be at any given moment.
Post by: Mark J on March 23, 2020, 10:52:09 pm
So now you know.
Post by: Mark J on March 24, 2020, 12:22:37 am
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Post by: Mark J on March 24, 2020, 11:22:47 pm
Post by: Texas Pete on March 26, 2020, 09:37:15 am
Post by: Texas Pete on March 26, 2020, 09:49:52 am
Post by: Mark J on March 27, 2020, 12:53:04 am
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Post by: Mark J on March 27, 2020, 07:38:24 am
Post by: Doobie on May 07, 2020, 09:29:23 am
Post by: purplelady1040 on May 09, 2020, 07:54:10 am
Really........................Politics??? A Bunch Of Idiots In Washington Screwing Up America..... Drain The Swamp President Donald J. Trump of the Democrats And Republicans who have become millionaires off of under handed deals, and screwing the taxpayers and put in term limits to help stop this crap and remove the lobbyists after four-six years max.............Term limits, yes for all of them.
Post by: purplelady1040 on May 11, 2020, 10:14:36 am
We all know that politicians will NEVER enact anything on their own to impose term limits.We won't ever get term limits in order to have that happen, we would have to be allowed to vote on it and the politicians won't let that happen.
The only way we may ever get term limits is for the citizenry to rally en mass for term limits and vote on them...
Until that happens, the whole notion of term limits is nothing more than a talking point....
Post by: Texas Pete on May 13, 2020, 08:51:29 pm
Suck it up, pssy.Stop starting sh!t and then crying to me about, don't send me another pm whining
when you are the one initiating it!
Post by: Legend8 on May 18, 2020, 08:11:04 am
has learned nothing.
Post by: Weepy on May 19, 2020, 05:21:36 pm
Polls predicted a Hillary landslide 2 hours before Trump won.....
No, the polls were accurate, she won by 3 million votes, right where it was expected to be. The polling does not reflect electorial votes..
I doubt Trump will win those states he was expected to lose and he will lose other states he won...
Post by: Weepy on May 19, 2020, 05:36:48 pm
Dewey was expected to win by a landslide over Truman in 1948 but the final polling was done in September that year Dewey sat on his ass while Truman went cross country to the end. Anytime before 1952 needs an asterisk beside it...
Post by: Groot on May 20, 2020, 04:24:07 pm
Not likely, troll.STFU possie ass biotch.
Post by: Groot on May 20, 2020, 04:25:54 pm
Only because you rationalize your ignorance....BwahahahahaSo says Posie little troll, shouldn't you be on the head of someones d ick.
Post by: fish-sticks on June 02, 2020, 11:17:05 am
colion noir
only person who can protect you is YOU
Post by: Legend8 on June 13, 2020, 08:48:48 am
Post by: Jackie on July 03, 2020, 04:40:07 am
Flesh Flies Mating
Politics
Post by: Teaman on July 03, 2020, 09:07:52 am
"President Donald Trump on Friday labeled churches and other houses of worship as “essential” and called on governors across the nation to let them reopen this weekend even though some areas remain under coronavirus lockdown. The president threatened to “override” governors who defy him, but it was unclear what authority he has to do so...."
First off, this buffoon has no authority what so ever to "override" governors. Secondly, Trump claiming to be a Christian is as laughable as when Saddam Hussein pretended to be a devout muslim. Both are dim-witted despots, both appointed their creepy retard sons to high positions even though they were imbeciles. The difference is, Saddam actually had the ability to run his country. All's Trump can run is his mouth.
Realtime is going to call you a tenther.
Post by: Texas Pete on August 11, 2020, 08:16:29 am
Post by: Jackie on August 22, 2020, 01:33:50 am
The US spends 87 times more on military expenses than Canada. Canada has a higher standard of living, universal health care, comparatively low crime, affordable higher education and they aren't despised all over the world because they do not interfere in the affairs of other nations or start pointless wars.
That's just the other side of the river...
Sounds good, I'm there!
Post by: Texas Pete on August 22, 2020, 08:57:25 am
Post by: Legend8 on August 24, 2020, 04:23:30 pm
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on August 24, 2020, 08:46:04 pm
This just out!Nice BS you have there. Lol!
Trump is on track to a landslide win....
Post by: positronium on September 08, 2020, 08:15:17 pm
Nice BS you have there. Lol!That BS you speak of is nice indeed but it will magically change to raw truth come November......
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on September 14, 2020, 11:54:22 pm
That BS you speak of is nice indeed but it will magically change to raw truth come November......Only if he and Republicans cheat...
And we all know they do. LMAO 🤣
Post by: positronium on September 15, 2020, 09:08:26 am
Only if he and Republicans cheat...Biden and the Dems are cheating right now...
And we all know they do. LMAO 🤣
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on September 15, 2020, 08:57:05 pm
Biden and the Dems are cheating right now...Republicans like you are well-known liars and cheats.
Anything else you wanna say? LMAO!
Post by: positronium on September 16, 2020, 08:02:02 am
Republicans like you are well-known liars and cheats.Same goes for you and your party and every other party....
Anything else you wanna say? LMAO!
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on September 17, 2020, 08:22:18 pm
Same goes for you and your party and every other party....Party? Says you. LMAO!
I'm independent and will never follow your party slogans lol 😁
Post by: Weepy on September 17, 2020, 08:37:26 pm
Nice BS you have there. Lol!
Typical BS from pos, nothing new...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on September 17, 2020, 08:49:24 pm
Typical BS from pos, nothing new...It's all he knows because he will never admit to the truth of his party of misfits.
Post by: Weepy on September 17, 2020, 08:58:56 pm
It's all he knows because he will never admit to the truth of his party of misfits.
He ain't too bright either and needs material it never created to parrot in order to exist. For instance, if Fox News went off the air, pos would be a mime just like that...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on September 17, 2020, 09:13:24 pm
He ain't too bright either and needs material it never created to parrot in order to exist. For instance, if Fox News went off the air, pos would be a mime just like that...I so agree with you! LMAO 🤣
He has no idea what his party is all about.
Post by: Weepy on September 17, 2020, 09:15:19 pm
I so agree with you! LMAO 🤣
He has no idea what his party is all about.
There are a couple others on the media thread that is the same way as pos and it is a reflection of the typical Twitler supporter...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on September 17, 2020, 09:41:16 pm
There are a couple others on the media thread that is the same way as pos and it is a reflection of the typical Twitler supporter...Or Faux Blues lol 😁
Post by: positronium on September 19, 2020, 05:24:43 pm
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on September 19, 2020, 08:55:00 pm
You libs can cry and moan all you want to but Trump is gonna win....And everyone already knows Trumpty Dumpty only has 20% of the vote, so the only way he'll get reelected is by cheating, as he always does.
Post by: positronium on September 20, 2020, 09:33:52 am
And everyone already knows Trumpty Dumpty only has 20% of the vote, so the only way he'll get reelected is by cheating, as he always does.Trump will still win nevertheless and the democrats and Biden will blame their loss on everything but the will of the people just like they did last time they lost.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on September 20, 2020, 11:44:49 pm
Trump will still win (((nevertheless))) and the democrats and Biden will blame their loss on everything but the will of the people just like they did last time they lost.Like I said before, once a Topix troll always a Topix troll.
Your leader has already lost and you and I know this already. Which you have confirmed, here.
He and Republicans couldn't win an election on their best day. Lol 😁
Post by: positronium on September 21, 2020, 09:11:26 am
Like I said before, once a Topix troll always a Topix troll.That's what you said last time..... LOL
Your leader has already lost and you and I know this already. Which you have confirmed, here.
He and Republicans couldn't win an election on their best day. Lol 😁
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on October 10, 2020, 04:22:55 pm
That's what you said last time..... LOLSo you admit to their cheating? 😂
Post by: positronium on October 10, 2020, 05:22:20 pm
So you admit to their cheating? 😂I admit they all cheat... When selling oneself to the general public there are no holds barred when it comes to ethics, honesty or morality...Of all people,You should know that...
Post by: Doobie on October 28, 2020, 11:46:03 am
Obama if investigated would show his is still receiving money from the insurance companies because of his guarantees with obamacare.....Who knows how much he got as kickbacks with John Kerry from the Iran Deal...... Obama purchased three (3) fifteen (15) Million plus properties when he left the white house.....
Biden has three mansions and several of shore accounts, so slow Joe don't complain about Trump's offshore accounts at least he didn't make his money of the taxpayers like you and your underhanded deals with several countries, and underhanded deal for you pay to play schemes to get rich in politics......Trump doesn't even accept pay for his presidency............
The Swamp Creatures Are Vast, Rich & Powerful.............
We Need Four (4) More Years of President Donald J. Trump to take this country back to the greatness it came be.......
Post by: positronium on October 28, 2020, 02:51:15 pm
Biden....Pelosi....McConnell....Obama.....The list never ends of the ones who became multi-millionaire in politics....under-handed deals, robbing the tax payers, accepting monies for favors from the rich, elite & Other Countries......We certainly do! Post of the day!
Obama if investigated would show his is still receiving money from the insurance companies because of his guarantees with obamacare.....Who knows how much he got as kickbacks with John Kerry from the Iran Deal...... Obama purchased three (3) fifteen (15) Million plus properties when he left the white house.....
Biden has three mansions and several of shore accounts, so slow Joe don't complain about Trump's offshore accounts at least he didn't make his money of the taxpayers like you and your underhanded deals with several countries, and underhanded deal for you pay to play schemes to get rich in politics......Trump doesn't even accept pay for his presidency............
The Swamp Creatures Are Vast, Rich & Powerful.............
We Need Four (4) More Years of President Donald J. Trump to take this country back to the greatness it came be.......
Post by: joanna50 on November 04, 2020, 10:44:11 pm
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on November 08, 2020, 11:20:39 pm
Biden....Pelosi....McConnell....Obama.....The list never ends of the ones who became multi-millionaire in politics....under-handed deals, robbing the tax payers, accepting monies for favors from the rich, elite & Other Countries......And your side has always been a big part of that swamp that you're so fond of to include but not limited to, Trumpty Dumpty.
Obama if investigated would show his is still receiving money from the insurance companies because of his guarantees with obamacare.....Who knows how much he got as kickbacks with John Kerry from the Iran Deal...... Obama purchased three (3) fifteen (15) Million plus properties when he left the white house.....
Biden has three mansions and several of shore accounts, so slow Joe don't complain about Trump's offshore accounts at least he didn't make his money of the taxpayers like you and your underhanded deals with several countries, and underhanded deal for you pay to play schemes to get rich in politics......Trump doesn't even accept pay for his presidency............
The Swamp Creatures Are Vast, Rich & Powerful.............
We Need Four (4) More Years of President Donald J. Trump to take this country back to the greatness it came be.......
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on November 08, 2020, 11:21:34 pm
We certainly do! Post of the day!And all BS. Lol 😁
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on November 08, 2020, 11:22:54 pm
if you believe that drivel that you just typed i have some ocean front property in Ky i can sell uThey are very easily fooled by the wealth among us.
Post by: joanna50 on November 10, 2020, 10:12:11 pm
They are very easily fooled by the wealth among us.i dont see how they can be fooled, i prefer to call it willful ignorance
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on November 10, 2020, 11:31:09 pm
i dont see how they can be fooled, i prefer to call it willful ignoranceAbsolutely! 🙂
Post by: positronium on November 11, 2020, 10:11:12 am
And all BS. Lol 😁Time will tell......
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on November 12, 2020, 10:26:07 pm
Time will tell......I think you've missed the boat because time already has. Lol 😁
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on November 12, 2020, 11:55:46 pm
How very telling...
Post by: positronium on November 13, 2020, 08:45:38 am
https://www-foxnews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.foxnews.com/entertainment/john-legend-mark-cuban-money-food-banks-georgia-senate-run-offs.amp?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fentertainment%2Fjohn-legend-mark-cuban-money-food-banks-georgia-senate-run-offsI noticed.......It was very entertaining but not the least bit important.....
How very telling...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on November 14, 2020, 10:52:37 pm
I noticed.......It was very entertaining but not the least bit important.....Sure. Lol 😁
A troll never will admit that they are flat wrong on anything, or any subject.
Post by: positronium on November 15, 2020, 08:45:08 am
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on November 15, 2020, 11:48:43 pm
zzzzzzzzzzzYep, truth hurts. Lol 😁
Post by: positronium on November 16, 2020, 06:59:23 pm
Yep, truth hurts. Lol 😁Yes, I woke up with a pain in my neck and it hurts.
I seem to have lost my religion. Maybe you can help me find it...
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on November 16, 2020, 11:03:43 pm
Yes, I woke up with a pain in my neck and it hurts.If you want religion then you'll have to look elsewhere my friend. I will never seek answers from fairy tales.
I seem to have lost my religion. Maybe you can help me find it...
So I wish you luck with that.
Post by: positronium on November 17, 2020, 12:09:25 pm
If you want religion then you'll have to look elsewhere my friend. I will never seek answers from fairy tales.Where should I look?
So I wish you luck with that.
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on November 17, 2020, 12:47:57 pm
Where should I look?Didn't you say you've already made one up?
I seek real answers to my many questions, my friend, and will never rely on another's wilful ignorance to curb my appetite for knowledge.
Could there be a god, yes, but what is this creator of all things we can experience?
Is it alive, or does it merely exist without conseousness?
Post by: positronium on November 18, 2020, 06:20:31 pm
Didn't you say you've already made one up?"It"................is it.
I seek real answers to my many questions, my friend, and will never rely on another's wilful ignorance to curb my appetite for knowledge.
Could there be a god, yes, but what is this creator of all things we can experience?
Is it alive, or does it merely exist without conseousness?
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on November 20, 2020, 12:40:49 am
"It"................is it.It what?
Post by: positronium on November 20, 2020, 09:42:46 am
It what?It. Nothing more and nothing less
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on November 23, 2020, 11:24:47 pm
It. Nothing more and nothing lessThanks for trolling ✌️😁
Post by: positronium on November 24, 2020, 09:41:12 am
Thanks for trolling ✌️😁You're welcome....I can always count on you to keep biting no matter how many times I have to throw you back....You have a lot of growing to do yet to qualify as a keeper....
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on November 25, 2020, 12:55:05 am
You're welcome....I can always count on you to keep biting no matter how many times I have to throw you back....You have a lot of growing to do yet to qualify as a keeper....Don't look now, but I'm not the only one with lots of growing up to do 😂
Keeping? Lol
Post by: positronium on November 25, 2020, 09:26:39 am
Don't look now, but I'm not the only one with lots of growing up to do 😂You are so very right...Don't compare yourself to others however.... Use the time and energy to grow up instead..lol
Keeping? Lol
Maybe?
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on December 01, 2020, 12:12:37 am
You are so very right...Don't compare yourself to others however.... Use the time and energy to grow up instead..lolYeah, I guess so ... One day.
Maybe?
I have lots on the mind now. Have a great week positronium ... And peace be with you and yours ✌️
Post by: positronium on December 01, 2020, 10:17:52 am
Yeah, I guess so ... One day.Now you got me worried.....What's wrong? Are you in trouble? Sick? Problems with neighbors?
I have lots on the mind now. Have a great week positronium ... And peace be with you and yours ✌️
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