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Re: Politics
« Reply #558 on: June 30, 2019, 01:09:29 pm »
Do you actually think that there aren’t people here that can take that supposed “graphic evidence” of theirs? You’d be wrong about that, as I for one would've loved to see his dead body, but there was far too much that didn’t add up to our governments involvement in an obvious coverup. I simply don’t buy an ounce of their stories because if you can recall the Bush administration were well known liars that would always say one thing and do the exact opposite. So ask yourself again why I don’t buy not one ounce of their stories.

So how do you know he’s not still alive when they haven’t even shown you his dead body?

Lies is all we’re fed.

The Bush family is very much in bed with the Saudi Arabian government cause they used to go and watch beheadings when invited by the Saudi government. That’s why I don’t buy none of their so-called “evidence”. Not when we know how corrupt they are. Nope, not buying it.

Huh?? Bush admin were liars so the Obama Admin are liars too?

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« Reply #559 on: June 30, 2019, 01:12:37 pm »
Huh?? Bush admin were liars so the Obama Admin are liars too?
Yup. Why am I not surprised you didn’t know. 🙄

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« Reply #560 on: June 30, 2019, 01:13:44 pm »
Do you actually think that there aren’t people here that can take that supposed “graphic evidence” of theirs? You’d be wrong about that, as I for one would've loved to see his dead body, but there was far too much that didn’t add up to our governments involvement in an obvious coverup. I simply don’t buy an ounce of their stories because if you can recall the Bush administration were well known liars that would always say one thing and do the exact opposite. So ask yourself again why I don’t buy not one ounce of their stories.

So how do you know he’s not still alive when they haven’t even shown you his dead body?

Lies is all we’re fed.

The Bush family is very much in bed with the Saudi Arabian government cause they used to go and watch beheadings when invited by the Saudi government. That’s why I don’t buy none of their so-called “evidence”. Not when we know how corrupt they are. Nope, not buying it.
I am going with the belief that several Seal Team 6 members saw him dead and reported his death. It is against their training to lie.

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« Reply #561 on: June 30, 2019, 01:16:57 pm »
What Benghazi are you talking about? The Benghazi consulate attack happened when Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State.

No schidt Sherlock...  ::)

It was only like the 18th worst embassy attack in history and there is evidence Boner and Co refused Amb Stevens request for funds for security, in which was the responsibility of the House of Reprentatives. Stevens family believes you and your party are mentally retarded for politicizing his death for political gain...

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« Reply #562 on: June 30, 2019, 01:19:56 pm »
No schidt Sherlock...  ::)

It was only like the 18th worst embassy attack in history and there is evidence aboner and Co refused Amb Stevens request for funds for security. Stevens family believes you and your party are mentally retarded for politicizing his death for political gain...

Stevens asked for funds? What are you smoking?

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« Reply #563 on: June 30, 2019, 01:21:21 pm »
Yup. Why am I not surprised you didn’t know. 🙄

And, you want these people to run your healthcare and college tuitions? Not logical.
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« Reply #564 on: June 30, 2019, 01:23:56 pm »
If you're talking about the bombing of Libya. There was no congressional approval and he didn't have to under the War Powers Act. I don't like it whether Obama or Trump uses it. I think it goes against the original intent of the constitution and leads to an imperial presidency.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/09/how-obama-ignored-congress-and-misled-america-on-war-in-libya/262299/
Obama had UN approval, France rightly lead the way.

And this      Two days after the U.N. acted, the United States and other NATO countries, including Britain and France, enforced a no-fly zone over Libya by Gadhafi’s air force while starting to bomb his assets. Seven months later, in October 2011, after a military offensive backed by a group of Western powers, rebel forces conquered the North African country, located Gadhafi and killed him.

According to Alan J. Kuperman, writing in the March-April 2015 issue of Foreign Affairs: “Not only did Gadhafi endanger the momentum of the nascent Arab Spring, which had recently swept away authoritarian regimes in Tunisia and Egypt, but he also was poised to commit a bloodbath in the Libyan city where the uprising had started.”

Obama declared: “We knew that if we waited one more day, Benghazi—a city nearly the size of Charlotte—could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world.” In the Rose Garden speech after Gadhafi’s death, Obama noted, “Without putting a single U.S. service member on the ground, we achieved our objectives.”

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« Reply #565 on: June 30, 2019, 01:27:26 pm »
Obama had UN approval, France rightly lead the way.

And this      Two days after the U.N. acted, the United States and other NATO countries, including Britain and France, enforced a no-fly zone over Libya by Gadhafi’s air force while starting to bomb his assets. Seven months later, in October 2011, after a military offensive backed by a group of Western powers, rebel forces conquered the North African country, located Gadhafi and killed him.

According to Alan J. Kuperman, writing in the March-April 2015 issue of Foreign Affairs: “Not only did Gadhafi endanger the momentum of the nascent Arab Spring, which had recently swept away authoritarian regimes in Tunisia and Egypt, but he also was poised to commit a bloodbath in the Libyan city where the uprising had started.”

Obama declared: “We knew that if we waited one more day, Benghazi—a city nearly the size of Charlotte—could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world.” In the Rose Garden speech after Gadhafi’s death, Obama noted, “Without putting a single U.S. service member on the ground, we achieved our objectives.”

That's right. The problem is the UN doesn't run this country.


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« Reply #566 on: June 30, 2019, 01:39:38 pm »
That's right. The problem is the UN doesn't run this country.

But we repect them, teabaggers do not. They only respect soundbites from those acting tough like the two dumbest Republican presidents in US history. Teabaggers stopped respected them when they did not approve of Dubya's war of choice in Iraq and slandered countries like France because of their objection of Dubs playing cowboy...

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« Reply #567 on: June 30, 2019, 01:49:41 pm »
Stevens asked for funds? What are you smoking?
Did he?

A. Stevens should never have been in Benghazi that week but having been there many times before he felt comfortable, as though he was among old friends.

B. Benghazi was not an embassy but an embassy outpost aka an annex and what little security did exist there was in no way trustworthy.

C. Two State Department personnel died as a result of the attack on the annex, the ambassador and Sean Smith a data specialist. The two others that were killed were military contractors who died defending a nearby CIA base.

D. Special agent Scott Strickland, who was Ambassador Stevens security guard on that day and the only eyewitness within the annex to the initial attack was never called to testify during the Benghazi public or behind closed door hearings.

E. It was eventually learned that Paula Broadwell of David Petraeus fame shared that the Benghazi CIA base was being used as a jail setting up the likely theory that it was the actual target of the attacks and was a black ops facility.

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« Reply #568 on: June 30, 2019, 01:58:59 pm »
That's right. The problem is the UN doesn't run this country.
France lead the way, we, the Brits and others merely assisted__that makes a huge difference.

You may recall that years earlier, Bush I set out to kill Gaddafi and almost succeeded on no more than a whim.

WiKi   The 1986 United States bombing of Libya, code-named Operation El Dorado Canyon, comprised air strikes by the United States against Libya on Tuesday, the 15 April 1986. The attack was carried out by the U.S. Air Force, U.S. Navy and U.S. Marine Corps via air strikes, in retaliation for the 1986 West Berlin discotheque bombing. There were 40 reported Libyan casualties, and one U.S. plane was shot down.

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« Reply #569 on: June 30, 2019, 02:28:15 pm »
I am going with the belief that several Seal Team 6 members saw him dead and reported his death. It is against their training to lie.
As well as the helo crews, the medics who took the DNA wrapped him for burial at sea and all the other sailors aboard that ship__and all their relatives and friends.

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« Reply #570 on: June 30, 2019, 03:04:44 pm »
I am going with the belief that several Seal Team 6 members saw him dead and reported his death. It is against their training to lie.
They answer to the president and can he ordered them to secrecy, and if they tell anyone, they can be tried on federal crimes. That is a fact. Do you deny this?

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« Reply #571 on: June 30, 2019, 03:07:29 pm »
And, you want these people to run your healthcare and college tuitions? Not logical.
Why not? I see that all big businesses do is take advantage of the general public. Why are you against the general public having good healthcare and college tuitions that don’t bleed them and their parents for generations?

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« Reply #572 on: June 30, 2019, 03:16:05 pm »
Why not? I see that all big businesses do is take advantage of the general public. Why are you against the general public having good healthcare and college tuitions that don’t bleed them and their parents for generations?
Purple Lady denied your manhood.


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« Reply #573 on: June 30, 2019, 03:21:26 pm »
Purple Lady denied your manhood.
And I deny your obvious trouble making, you blowhard.

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« Reply #574 on: June 30, 2019, 03:24:56 pm »
They answer to the president and can he ordered them to secrecy, and if they tell anyone, they can be tried on federal crimes. That is a fact. Do you deny this?
I don't deny that but too many people saw that it was him. No way, would they keep that a secret.

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« Reply #575 on: June 30, 2019, 03:26:02 pm »
And I deny your obvious trouble making, you blowhard.
Some people don't get that some people can disagree and still be friends.