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Re: Politics
« Reply #792 on: September 10, 2019, 03:16:53 pm »
LOL..

Bolton is scum from a different time, those two hard heads deserved each other...
One of Cheney's neocons that lead the nation blindly into Iraq based on fabricated evidence (lies).

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2007/03/whitehouse200703

Worse, he (Bolton) is a FOX darling__or was.
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« Reply #793 on: September 10, 2019, 08:35:19 pm »
Hard to believe tomorrow will be 18 years since 9-11.
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« Reply #794 on: September 11, 2019, 10:58:22 pm »
Big win for Trump and America at the Supreme Court today:


https://news.yahoo.com/supreme-court-allows-broad-enforcement-222044549.html?soc_src=newsroom&soc_trk=com.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard&.tsrc=newsroom

We can finally stop being a never-ending poverty dumping ground.  We should take the best and brightest from Latin America, not welfare cases. 
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« Reply #795 on: September 11, 2019, 11:08:06 pm »
Only two justice to dissent were Weekend at Bader's (she's basically a corpse at this point that they prop up like Bernie from weekend at Bernie's, cause they don't want trump to appoint another justice ... They gonna film her corpse water skiing this weekend so everyone thinks she's all right, lol) and Sotomayor, who will never rule against Latin American interests, no matter what the law is.  We may as well made the head of la raza a Supreme Court justice.  She is terrible.  She doesn't even care what the law is, only the result she wants.  She's a disgrace to the judiciary, IMO and shouldn't even be on the people's court.
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« Reply #796 on: September 12, 2019, 10:51:26 am »
What's dumb is only being able to say a post is dumb while wholly lacking the ability to point out why.  If you think it's in America's interest and its citizens interests (.regardless is their race) to function as a giant refugee camp for never-ending Latin American poverty hordes fleeing the ever expanding slums they make, you should be able to explain why, shouldn't you?

I'm pretty sure Latin American nations wouldn't appreciate it america was constantly sending them never-ending hordes of homeless people by the millions annually to care and provide for.  Actually Mexicans don't appreciate all the folks from Central America flooding their country.  People are usually generous until that generosity gets taken advantage of.  Almost none of these people qualify for asylum and they know it, but they don't care.  The system is so backlogged for legitimate asylum seekers that this arrangement is unfair to them.  It's also unfair to all the people who come to America legally. It's also unfair to Americans who are stuck paying for poverty hordes to continuously flood America in violation of our laws.

If one feels otherwise and feels they are informed, use your words like a big boy or girl and explain why.  It's okay.  I might be brutally honest and speak uncomfortable truths, but I don't bite.

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« Reply #797 on: September 12, 2019, 11:00:05 am »
Rules for asylum:

First, an asylum applicant must establish that he or she fears persecution from their Government in their home country. Second, the applicant must prove that he or she would be persecuted on account of one of five protected grounds: race, religion, nationality, political opinion, or particular social group

Seeming out better economic opportunities doesn't qualify.

Fleeing gang violence doesn't qualify.

Your husband beating you, doesn't qualify.

These people are abusing the system and they know it.  They are coached on what to say and they have known for a long time that if they come they will not be granted asylum, but will still be released into America where they place massive burdens on American society because they are so impoverished and uneducated .. they will also never go back.  America isn't a giant refugee camp for them and this isn't the 1800s where we needed cheap labor to flood America, had a lot of land that needed to be settle and could be bought cheaply, had railroads to build, factors to build and man, and basically a huge land mass that needed to be developed.

We have much less of a need for masses of poverty to flood our nation and its to our detriment to do so.  To the extent we need cheap labor we, Americans, should decide exactly how much we need and it should be controlled and regulated, not a free for all where Latin Americans control it.

These are all common sense things I share.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #798 on: September 12, 2019, 04:15:36 pm »
Off subject but an interesting irony. The American Revolution began with the "shot heard around the world" at Lexington and Concord, Mass. when British troops were sent there to seize weapons and ammunition.

https://www.history.com/news/what-was-the-shot-heard-round-the-world

You wonder why thre is a second amendment.
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« Reply #799 on: September 12, 2019, 07:19:34 pm »
Off subject but an interesting irony. The American Revolution began with the "shot heard around the world" at Lexington and Concord, Mass. when British troops were sent there to seize weapons and ammunition.

https://www.history.com/news/what-was-the-shot-heard-round-the-world

You wonder why thre is a second amendment.

There would be a massive armed uprising if they tried.

We should do back ground checks on private sales and if even be ok with banning private sales and making all sales go through a dealer.  If someone wants to sell a gun to someone they can sell it to a dealer and the dealer can do the background check and sell it to the person.  I'm okay with that, but getting rid of the 2nd amendment will never happen.  That would be the last straw and the ties that bind us would be dissolved.
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« Reply #800 on: September 12, 2019, 07:22:29 pm »
That would be the last straw and the ties that bind us would be dissolved.

I don't even own any guns, but I won't give up the right give up the right without bloodshed.  I'm willing to die for it.  I'm willing to kill for it.  I know lots of people like this.  If liberals don't like it they can get the eff out of my country.

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« Reply #801 on: September 12, 2019, 08:09:16 pm »
There would be a massive armed uprising if they tried.

We should do back ground checks on private sales and if even be ok with banning private sales and making all sales go through a dealer.  If someone wants to sell a gun to someone they can sell it to a dealer and the dealer can do the background check and sell it to the person.  I'm okay with that, but getting rid of the 2nd amendment will never happen.  That would be the last straw and the ties that bind us would be dissolved.

That is already required in NJ. I don't have a problem with that either. I don't have a problem with red flag laws as long as there is a judicial process involved.

https://lawcenter.giffords.org/private-sales-in-new-jersey/

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« Reply #802 on: September 12, 2019, 11:23:42 pm »
That is already required in NJ. I don't have a problem with that either. I don't have a problem with red flag laws as long as there is a judicial process involved.

https://lawcenter.giffords.org/private-sales-in-new-jersey/

That's still probably not good enough for the left.  As soon as folks give them an inch and give up some gun rights, they'll demand a mile.  We went from them demanding gay marriage and right after that was granted the next day overnight they demanded dudes who wish they were girls to play in girls sports and to shower with them.  Now if you don't support that you are just as much of a bigot as people who didn't used to support gay marriage according to liberals. 

Remember when it used to be LBG, then as they got more rights that wasn't good enough and more "oppressed" "victims" started crawling out of the woodwork demand tonget their way and it became LBGQT and as transsexuals got their way now it's LGBTQQIAAP and who the eff knows when the letter ending will stop.


L - lesbian: a woman who is attracted to other women
G - gay: a man who is attracted to other men or broadly people who identify as homosexual
B - bisexual: a person who is attracted to both men and women
T - transgender: a person whose gender identity is different from the sex the doctor put down on their birth certificate
Q - queer: originally used as a hate term, some people want to reclaim the word, while others find it offensive. It can be a political statement, suggest that someone doesn't want to identify with "binaries" (e.g. male v female, homosexual v straight) or that they don't want to label themselves only by their sexual activity
Q - questioning: a person who is still exploring their sexuality or gender identity
I - intersex: a person whose body is not definitively male or female. This may be because they have chromosomes which are not XX or XY or because their genitals or reproductive organs are not considered "standard"
A - allies: a person who identifies as straight but supports people in the LGBTQQIAAP community
A - asexual: a person who is not attracted in a sexual way to people of any gender
P - pansexual: a person whose sexual attraction is not based on gender and may themselves be fluid when it comes to gender or sexual identity

It's nuts, but this is mainstream liberal thinking..  it's like the mental patients are running the effin asylum.

I know nothing about the show, but I even saw this headline yesterday and was like oh boy what did they say:

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/real-housewives-dorinda-medley-sonja-morgan-apologize-transphobic-new-york-fashion-week-185115840.html?soc_src=newsroom&soc_trk=com.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard&.tsrc=newsroom

^^ that's liberals for you and they wonder why folks don't want a liberal for president.  They might not like trump, but at least he doesn't think calling a drag queen a dude is some phobia.
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Re: Politics
« Reply #803 on: September 13, 2019, 11:49:58 am »
That is already required in NJ. I don't have a problem with that either. I don't have a problem with red flag laws as long as there is a judicial process involved.

https://lawcenter.giffords.org/private-sales-in-new-jersey/

That is already required in NJ. I don't have a problem with that either. I don't have a problem with red flag laws as long as there is a judicial process involved.

https://lawcenter.giffords.org/private-sales-in-new-jersey/

https://news.yahoo.com/beto-o-rourke-ar-robert-francis-tweet-death-threat-fbi-140045177.html?soc_src=newsroom&soc_trk=com.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard&.tsrc=newsroom

This is what they really want, make no mistake about it.  It starts with AR-15s. It's not like once they forcibly confiscate AR-15s anti-gun activists are gonna retire and be happy.  Nope.  They won't say O've fought the good fight and won and now my work her is done.  Instead they will have a new list of demands as soon as they get their way on AR-15.

This has been going around a lot:

National Guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed by elements of a Para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.
Speaking after the clash, Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement. Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group’s organizers as “criminals,” issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government’s efforts to secure law and order. The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons.
Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting in early this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms. One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that “none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily.” Government troops initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government’s plans.
During a tense standoff in the Lexington town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists. Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange. Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, anrmed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units. Colonel Smith, finding his forces over matched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat.
Governor Gage has called upon citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. The governor also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against the government troops.
Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and John Hancock, who have been identified as “ringleaders” of the extremist faction, remain at large. And this fellow Americans, is how the American Revolution began, April 20, 1775.

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« Reply #804 on: September 13, 2019, 11:56:50 am »
I like this O'Rourke much better than the fake Mexican wannabe Robert O'Rourke:

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child — miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."

P.J. O'Rourke

Like a spoiled child, liberals are never happy even when they get their way.  They immediately start thinking of what they can ask for next.  Give them an inch and they immediately demand a mile.  Don't give them an inch.  It still won't make them satisfied.  It still won't make them tolerate you.  The only thing that will make them tolerate you is if you keep giving in to their increasing demands.  It happens in so many contexts.  It's not just guns. 

Civil rights ... gay rights ... guns ... welfare programs ... every single time you agree with them it's just used as a launch pad by liberals to demand even more.  Civics rights movement ... we made a lot of progress and now they complain about "micro-aggressions" and having gifted programs in NYC that minorities can't get into ... so now they want to get rid of it in NYC so that everyone gets dumbed down to the lowest common denominator,

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« Reply #805 on: September 13, 2019, 12:13:09 pm »
The wannabe fake Mexican O'Rourke is all for confiscation of guns but  his little chicken shyte azz isn't gonna be the one doing the actual confiscation.  Nope fake Mexican O'Rourke will hide behind people with guns and use them to forcibly take  peoples guns.  Liberals seek complete control of the government ... its wby after hundreds of years the electoral college is such a problem for them now ... and they seek to have it so once they control the government they are the only ones with guns and they will use them if people don't comply with their ever increasing demands to shrink individual liberty.  That's what this is all about.  They can't do what they want to ultimately do to America with an armed citizenry.  They know it doesn't end well for them cause people will not tolerate their increasing tyranny and they will pay dearly for this and this scares them, because more and more control and more and more demands is the only thing that will satiate their desires and such satiation is only temporary and lasts a split second until they think of a new list of demands.

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« Reply #806 on: September 13, 2019, 12:52:41 pm »
https://news.yahoo.com/beto-o-rourke-ar-robert-francis-tweet-death-threat-fbi-140045177.html?soc_src=newsroom&soc_trk=com.apple.UIKit.activity.CopyToPasteboard&.tsrc=newsroom

This is what they really want, make no mistake about it.  It starts with AR-15s. It's not like once they forcibly confiscate AR-15s anti-gun activists are gonna retire and be happy.  Nope.  They won't say O've fought the good fight and won and now my work her is done.  Instead they will have a new list of demands as soon as they get their way on AR-15.

This has been going around a lot:

National Guard units seeking to confiscate a cache of recently banned assault weapons were ambushed by elements of a Para-military extremist faction. Military and law enforcement sources estimate that 72 were killed and more than 200 injured before government forces were compelled to withdraw.
Speaking after the clash, Massachusetts Governor Thomas Gage declared that the extremist faction, which was made up of local citizens, has links to the radical right-wing tax protest movement. Gage blamed the extremists for recent incidents of vandalism directed against internal revenue offices. The governor, who described the group’s organizers as “criminals,” issued an executive order authorizing the summary arrest of any individual who has interfered with the government’s efforts to secure law and order. The military raid on the extremist arsenal followed wide-spread refusal by the local citizenry to turn over recently outlawed assault weapons.
Gage issued a ban on military-style assault weapons and ammunition earlier in the week. This decision followed a meeting in early this month between government and military leaders at which the governor authorized the forcible confiscation of illegal arms. One government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that “none of these people would have been killed had the extremists obeyed the law and turned over their weapons voluntarily.” Government troops initially succeeded in confiscating a large supply of outlawed weapons and ammunition. However, troops attempting to seize arms and ammunition in Lexington met with resistance from heavily-armed extremists who had been tipped off regarding the government’s plans.
During a tense standoff in the Lexington town park, National Guard Colonel Francis Smith, commander of the government operation, ordered the armed group to surrender and return to their homes. The impasse was broken by a single shot, which was reportedly fired by one of the right-wing extremists. Eight civilians were killed in the ensuing exchange. Ironically, the local citizenry blamed government forces rather than the extremists for the civilian deaths. Before order could be restored, anrmed citizens from surrounding areas had descended upon the guard units. Colonel Smith, finding his forces over matched by the armed mob, ordered a retreat.
Governor Gage has called upon citizens to support the state/national joint task force in its effort to restore law and order. The governor also demanded the surrender of those responsible for planning and leading the attack against the government troops.
Samuel Adams, Paul Revere, and John Hancock, who have been identified as “ringleaders” of the extremist faction, remain at large. And this fellow Americans, is how the American Revolution began, April 20, 1775.

Pretty good analogy. The irony I was pointing out earlier.

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« Reply #807 on: September 13, 2019, 12:59:39 pm »
Logistically, how do they confiscated guns?  They are gonna knock on someone's door and say we want your AR-15.  I would just say oh, I lost that. As one guy on yahoo posted it fell in a lake and so did my 10,000 rounds of ammunition, lol..  What are they gonna do go get search warrants and start tearing apart people's homes.  Fake Mexican O'Rourke is too dopey to think of such practicalities.  Are they gonna dig up my yard? 

If it ever gets close to banning AR-15s I'm gonna buy a bunch of them before the ban kicks in and a bunch of ammo and a bunch of other guns ... cause I know it won't stop there and that's just the beginning ... and I don't even own any guns.  So  practical effect of banning guns will be just to make more people buy them and become even more radical. 

Remember every single patriot in the revolutionary war and all the founding fathers would be right wing extremists by the standards of liberals today.  They absolutely despise the principals of our nation's founding fathers.  They don't like freedom because freedom allows other people to make different choices than them and doesn't allow them to use other people for their purposes and there is nothing more they can't stand more than that.  They would have all fought for the crown.  After the war a lot of them were kicked out of the country.  Lost all their land and all their possessions.

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« Reply #808 on: September 13, 2019, 01:01:57 pm »
Pretty good analogy. The irony I was pointing out earlier.

Yup!  It's great.  My ancestors were here at the time. My last name changed by one letter somewhere along the way, but my family surname served in the revolution.  My direct line and relatives.  One was a light dragoon.  My ancestors fought and fought for the right to bear arms and I won't give it up.  Not ever.

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« Reply #809 on: September 13, 2019, 01:07:17 pm »
Yup!  It's great.  My ancestors were here at the time. My last name changed by one letter somewhere along the way, but my family surname served in the revolution.  My direct line and relatives.  One was a light dragoon.  My ancestors fought and fought for the right to bear arms and I won't give it up.  Not ever.

My ancestors didn't show up until the Civil War. I believe a potato famine caused it. lol