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« Reply #72 on: December 05, 2019, 09:22:41 pm »
I can't for the life of me as a parent understand why parents don't and won't immunize their children.  It is crazy

It's because we have such a mass of stupid people who refuse to be educated and learn anything but BS conspiracy theories.

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« Reply #73 on: December 05, 2019, 09:30:27 pm »
BATON ROUGE - The most expensive drug in the world could be a possible cure for a 16-month-old boy.

I'm of two minds about situations like this.

I feel sorry for the child and wish a cure.

On the other hand, I see that people breeding these diseases through genetics should consider letting nature take its course to keep it out of the gene pool.

The more we save those who would not normally survive, the more we keep diseases and deformities in the gene pool.

It's a dilemma.

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« Reply #74 on: December 05, 2019, 09:44:42 pm »
BATON ROUGE - The most expensive drug in the world could be a possible cure for a 16-month-old boy.

Axel Dennis was diagnosed with Spinal Muscular Atrophy Type 1 at five weeks old. SMA is a genetic disease the affects muscle movement. Axel's mother, Andrea James, says her son's muscles aren't getting messages from his brain.

"We were told one to two years and bring him home and enjoy him the best we could, but there were no guarantees of his life span," James said.

In January, he lost his ability to smile.

Earlier this year, the FDA approved Zolgensma for children with SMA under the age of two. The infusion halts the disorder in its tracks and doesn't allow it to progress further. The single-dose drug has been praised by the SMA community but it's incredibly expensive at more than $2 million.

Axel's Louisiana Medicaid has refused to cover the cost.

"We've been denied twice and now we're applying for the State Fair Hearing," James said. "I think that they just don't want to pay the price."

In his treatment denial letter, it says Axel doesn't meet certain criteria to receive the dose. James says it's because he has a trach tube, which is used to help expand Axel's lungs.

It's now a race against time. The family has eight months before Axel turns two. James has heard and seen what the drug can do and wishes it for everyone.

Pharmaseutical companies are EVIL!!!! All meds are expensive, way over the top. They could bring the prices down but won't because they are GREEDY, AND THAT'S TRUTH NOT FICTION, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT!
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« Reply #75 on: December 05, 2019, 09:48:30 pm »
I'm of two minds about situations like this.

I feel sorry for the child and wish a cure.

On the other hand, I see that people breeding these diseases through genetics should consider letting nature take its course to keep it out of the gene pool.

The more we save those who would not normally survive, the more we keep diseases and deformities in the gene pool.

It's a dilemma.
What do you mean by breeding these diseases through genetics? Do you mean the parent or parents had Spinal Muscular Atrophy Type 1 ?

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« Reply #76 on: December 05, 2019, 10:19:22 pm »
Pharmaseutical companies are EVIL!!!! All meds are expensive, way over the top. They could bring the prices down but won't because they are GREEDY, AND THAT'S TRUTH NOT FICTION, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT!

What you're seeing is the end result of Capitalism when it's not highly regulated.

It's corrupted every aspect of American life.

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« Reply #77 on: December 06, 2019, 07:33:04 am »
What do you mean by breeding these diseases through genetics? Do you mean the parent or parents had Spinal Muscular Atrophy Type 1 ?
Not all diseases but certainly a few. You may recall the San Diego news anchor Bree Walker who inherited electrodactyly and then knowingly passed it on to one child, then another. She caught hell over that decision and it may have cost her her marriage to Jim Lampley.

Electrodactyly is the rare condition that causes deformed hands and feet.

There are dozens of other diseases that are almost guaranteed to appear in offspring and hundreds that are likely to. Better safe than sorry, plenty of kids available for adoption or just make do without knowing there's a chance your child could have a very rough life.

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« Reply #78 on: December 06, 2019, 08:50:23 am »
What you're seeing is the end result of Capitalism when it's not highly regulated.

It's corrupted every aspect of American life.

Blaming a system for the acts of individuals? smh.

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« Reply #79 on: December 06, 2019, 09:50:49 am »
I see the powers that be here is taking retaliation for a conversation behind the scenes about Quills/BK and his 'minions' by removing some of my posts replying to Jackie.

No notification either, obviously hoping I wouldn't notice.

That's a weasel way to act.

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« Reply #80 on: December 06, 2019, 09:55:23 am »
Blaming a system for the acts of individuals? smh.

An economic system that reduces human actions and interaction to the almighty dollar is an overriding corrupting influence.

If you bother to pay attention, you can see it happening all around you every day.

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« Reply #81 on: December 06, 2019, 10:52:23 am »
An economic system that reduces human actions and interaction to the almighty dollar is an overriding corrupting influence.

If you bother to pay attention, you can see it happening all around you every day.

Every system has a corrupting influence. With other systems, those corrupted people are in charge and have complete power. Capitalism is driven by innovation and creativity. It has brought more products and wealth to the individual than any other. If you're referring to crony capitalism, I may agree with you. That smacks a little bit of fascism. Government corporatism.

The almighty dollar? Would that include the consumer that camps out in front of the Apple store waiting for the new I Phone? And, again, one can't condemn a system for the actions of the individual.

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« Reply #82 on: December 06, 2019, 12:56:23 pm »
Here's a simple explanation:

Capitalism is anti-social; a predatory economic system based on benefiting the one and or the elite.  Socialism and Communism are social economic systems based on benefiting society or the many.

Now if you're setting up a society, do you want to promote an economic system that pits everyone against each other, or an economic system that promotes everyone in that society, generally, for the best outcome for everyone?

Anyway, people can probably guess your answer.
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« Reply #83 on: December 06, 2019, 01:36:39 pm »
Pharmaseutical companies are EVIL!!!! All meds are expensive, way over the top. They could bring the prices down but won't because they are GREEDY, AND THAT'S TRUTH NOT FICTION, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT!
It is the insurance companies that cause the issues not really the pharmaceutical companies on that one. Insurance dictates what they will or will not pay.

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« Reply #84 on: December 06, 2019, 01:37:28 pm »
Not all diseases but certainly a few. You may recall the San Diego news anchor Bree Walker who inherited electrodactyly and then knowingly passed it on to one child, then another. She caught hell over that decision and it may have cost her her marriage to Jim Lampley.

Electrodactyly is the rare condition that causes deformed hands and feet.

There are dozens of other diseases that are almost guaranteed to appear in offspring and hundreds that are likely to. Better safe than sorry, plenty of kids available for adoption or just make do without knowing there's a chance your child could have a very rough life.
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« Reply #85 on: December 06, 2019, 10:40:38 pm »
Here's a simple explanation:

Capitalism is anti-social; a predatory economic system based on benefiting the one and or the elite.  Socialism and Communism are social economic systems based on benefiting society or the many.

Now if you're setting up a society, do you want to promote an economic system that pits everyone against each other, or an economic system that promotes everyone in that society, generally, for the best outcome for everyone?

Anyway, people can probably guess your answer.

The biggest threat to democracy, America, society, and this site in general is dummies like you who think you have the answer to it all.

I just had a thought... go lick some windows and worry about your small sized pen1s
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« Reply #86 on: December 06, 2019, 10:56:00 pm »
It is the insurance companies that cause the issues not really the pharmaceutical companies on that one. Insurance dictates what they will or will not pay.

They are all in it together. You have to have health insurance today, or your out in the cold.

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« Reply #87 on: December 06, 2019, 11:25:28 pm »
Not all diseases but certainly a few. You may recall the San Diego news anchor Bree Walker who inherited electrodactyly and then knowingly passed it on to one child, then another. She caught hell over that decision and it may have cost her her marriage to Jim Lampley.

Electrodactyly is the rare condition that causes deformed hands and feet.

There are dozens of other diseases that are almost guaranteed to appear in offspring and hundreds that are likely to. Better safe than sorry, plenty of kids available for adoption or just make do without knowing there's a chance your child could have a very rough life.

But if a parent doesnt know they have a disease, it cant be helped. There are diseases that cant be tested, no one knows.

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« Reply #88 on: December 06, 2019, 11:27:48 pm »
Welp, I have a cold since last night, did not get the flu shot. Just taking nyquil max strength tablets, every 6 hours, eating soup, and plan to rest this weekend. I feel ok, so far.

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« Reply #89 on: December 06, 2019, 11:52:45 pm »
They are all in it together. You have to have health insurance today, or your out in the cold.
I know a lot of peiple who don't have health insurance and pay as they go. More and nore are doing that. Is it the smart thig to do, not trally but they also could not afford health insurance. Of course they are realtively healthy people so it works for them for now.