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Re: Making the Vaccine Decision
« Reply #90 on: December 06, 2019, 11:56:03 pm »
I know a lot of peiple who don't have health insurance and pay as they go. More and nore are doing that. Is it the smart thig to do, not trally but they also could not afford health insurance. Of course they are realtively healthy people so it works for them for now.

Well, medicines are too expensive to pay as you go for anyone. Good for them. There is a toe medicine out there costs 2,000 for a tiny bottle of a month supply.

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« Reply #91 on: December 07, 2019, 12:05:10 am »
Well, medicines are too expensive to pay as you go for anyone. Good for them. There is a toe medicine out there costs 2,000 for a tiny bottle of a month supply.
It won't help them to pay as they go if they have to go to the hospital for any type of procedure.  One hospital visit can wipe you out. As I posted they are relatively healthy but when they get older that isn't going to help them when you have to have certain tests that everyone has to have.

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« Reply #92 on: December 07, 2019, 12:10:03 am »
It won't help them to pay as they go if they have to go to the hospital for any type of procedure.  One hospital visit can wipe you out. As I posted they are relatively healthy but when they get older that isn't going to help them when you have to have certain tests that everyone has to have.

Any hospital procedure is a fortune. Same as meds, its good they don't need any daily meds for life.

That's why I say the insurnce co. and pharmaseutical co are in it together. They make the costs so high, forcing you to get health insurance. Those days of pay as you go are bye-bye.

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« Reply #93 on: December 07, 2019, 12:14:26 am »
Any hospital procedure is a fortune. Same as meds, its good they don't need any daily meds for life.

That's why I say the insurnce co. and pharmaseutical co are in it together. They make the costs so high, forcing you to get health insurance. Those days of pay as you go are bye-bye.
It is a risk to do that and not have insurance  same as it is risk  to not get the flu shot or any other vaccines.

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« Reply #94 on: December 07, 2019, 12:21:22 am »
It is a riak to do that and not have insurance  same as it is risk  to not get the flu shot or any other vaccines.

Well, I wont get the flu vaccine until its at least 80 percent effective. Same with mammograms, I will wait till the test is better, alot of false positives going on.
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« Reply #95 on: December 07, 2019, 12:37:36 am »
Well, I wont get the flu vaccine until its at least 80 percent effective. Same with mammograms, I will wait till the test is better, alot of false positives going on.
Not getting a mammogram is wrong, I get one every year and have never had a false positive.  Your risk of getting breast cancer is higher by not getting one of if there is a family history of breast cancer. Having had 2 parents with cancer, I get a mammogram even though it was not breast cancer that they had. Here they have 3D imaging and no way, can one get a false reading on that. I hope you don't get breast cancer but not getting a mammogram is playing a huge risk. Not one I would take a chance on and if you end up with breast cancer, your going to be out a lot of money for chemo, radiation and even having a mastectomy. 

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« Reply #96 on: December 07, 2019, 01:05:08 am »
Not getting a mammogram is wrong, I get one every year and have never had a false positive.  Your risk of getting breast cancer is higher by not getting one of if there is a family history of breast cancer. Having had 2 parents with cancer, I get a mammogram even though it was not breast cancer that they had. Here they have 3D imaging and no way, can one get a false reading on that. I hope you don't get breast cancer but not getting a mammogram is playing a huge risk. Not one I would take a chance on and if you end up with breast cancer, your going to be out a lot of money for chemo, radiation and even having a mastectomy.

It's a risk not to get one. I'll check into 3d imaging. Breast cancer is not in my family, but cancer yes.
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« Reply #97 on: December 07, 2019, 01:14:20 am »
It's a risk not to get one. I'll check into 3d imaging. Breast cancer is not in my family, but cancer yes.
If cancer runs in your family than the chances of you getting breast cancer is higher even if that isn't the cancer they have.  I know women who didn't get a mammogram,  had no history of breast cancer and got breast cancer, had they gotten a routine mammogram,  early detection would have prevented them from chemo, radiation and having breast cancer. It is not worth the risk to go without.

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« Reply #98 on: December 08, 2019, 01:56:21 pm »
"Big Tech is now banning ALL “unauthorized comments” about vaccines, including vaccine ingredients, side effects, autism, etc. – censorship is about way more than just politics!"

https://newstarget.com/2019-11-28-big-tech-banning-unauthorized-comments-vaccines-side-effects-autism-censorship.html

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« Reply #99 on: December 08, 2019, 03:47:52 pm »
"Big Tech is now banning ALL “unauthorized comments” about vaccines, including vaccine ingredients, side effects, autism, etc. – censorship is about way more than just politics!"

https://newstarget.com/2019-11-28-big-tech-banning-unauthorized-comments-vaccines-side-effects-autism-censorship.html

Wow! is all I gotta say, don't want to get reported.
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Re: Making the Vaccine Decision
« Reply #100 on: December 08, 2019, 09:25:55 pm »
Well, I wont get the flu vaccine until its at least 80 percent effective. Same with mammograms, I will wait till the test is better, alot of false positives going on.
Jackie, We nearly eradicated the measles and we were safe from the harmful effects caused by the measles. Due to people feeling just like you about vaccines and refusing to be inoculated, the measles are making a comeback. The same can be said for whooping cough. That having been said, the flu vaccine doesn't hurt you. It only benefits you and protects you and others around you. It's entirely possible that the reason you haven't gotten the flu is because others around you have protected you by getting the vaccine. I've gotten the flu vaccine for years. In 2009, I got H1N1 flu even though I had received the flu shot. I was very, very, sick. I didn't blame the flu shot and the flowing year, I still faithfully got my flu shot. In 2013 some friends talked me into skipping the shot claiming that because I worked around kids with germs I had built up a natural resistance. Well, lucky me, I got the flu twice that year and ended up in the hospital with pneumonia. In addition since I was so sick, I also ended up with shingles. It wasn't a lot of fun.

I'm not trying to post a sob story. I'd just like for you to understand that by getting the flu shot, you're protecting yourself, your loved ones, others you come in contact with, children, and it's free. Excuse the pun but I believe you should give it a shot.

As for the mammogram, they don't even do an initial mammogram until you're in your 40s. There's absolutely no risk to having a mammogram done and if you have the initial mammogram, it's much easier to detect a problem if one should arise.
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« Reply #101 on: December 08, 2019, 09:40:06 pm »
Jackie, We nearly eradicated the measles and we were safe from the harmful effects caused by the measles. Due to people feeling just like you about vaccines and refusing to be inoculated, the measles are making a comeback. The same can be said for whooping cough. That having been said, the flu vaccine doesn't hurt you. It only benefits you and protects you and others around you. It's entirely possible that the reason you haven't gotten the flu is because others around you have protected you by getting the vaccine. I've gotten the flu vaccine for years. In 2009, I got H1N1 flu even though I had received the flu shot. I was very, very, sick. I didn't blame the flu shot and the flowing year, I still faithfully got my flu shot. In 2013 some friends talked me into skipping the shot claiming that because I worked around kids with germs I had built up a natural resistance. Well, lucky me, I got the flu twice that year and ended up in the hospital with pneumonia. In addition since I was so sick, I also ended up with shingles. It wasn't a lot of fun.

I'm not trying to post a sob story. I'd just like for you to understand that by getting the flu shot, you're protecting yourself, your loved ones, others you come in contact with, children, and it's free. Excuse the pun but I believe you should give it a shot.

As for the mammogram, they don't even do an initial mammogram until you're in your 40s. There's absolutely no risk to having a mammogram done and if you have the initial mammogram, it's much easier to detect a problem if one should arise.
Agree on all that and so sorry, you had the flu and pneumonia. 

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Re: Making the Vaccine Decision
« Reply #102 on: December 09, 2019, 09:52:29 am »
Jackie, We nearly eradicated the measles and we were safe from the harmful effects caused by the measles. Due to people feeling just like you about vaccines and refusing to be inoculated, the measles are making a comeback. The same can be said for whooping cough. That having been said, the flu vaccine doesn't hurt you. It only benefits you and protects you and others around you. It's entirely possible that the reason you haven't gotten the flu is because others around you have protected you by getting the vaccine. I've gotten the flu vaccine for years. In 2009, I got H1N1 flu even though I had received the flu shot. I was very, very, sick. I didn't blame the flu shot and the flowing year, I still faithfully got my flu shot. In 2013 some friends talked me into skipping the shot claiming that because I worked around kids with germs I had built up a natural resistance. Well, lucky me, I got the flu twice that year and ended up in the hospital with pneumonia. In addition since I was so sick, I also ended up with shingles. It wasn't a lot of fun.

I'm not trying to post a sob story. I'd just like for you to understand that by getting the flu shot, you're protecting yourself, your loved ones, others you come in contact with, children, and it's free. Excuse the pun but I believe you should give it a shot.

As for the mammogram, they don't even do an initial mammogram until you're in your 40s. There's absolutely no risk to having a mammogram done and if you have the initial mammogram, it's much easier to detect a problem if one should arise.

Well, a member in my family just got the flu shot, he was sick, then I got sick , now my moms svery sick and now in the hospital. Thanks to the flu shot.
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« Reply #103 on: December 09, 2019, 11:01:40 am »
Flu shots get people sick, and when that person gets a flu shot and has other health issues, they get sick. And pass it along to others, and if those people have health issues they become seriously sick. 
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« Reply #104 on: December 09, 2019, 11:04:39 am »
Well, a member in my family just got the flu shot, he was sick, then I got sick , now my moms svery sick and now in the hospital. Thanks to the flu shot.
It probably wasn't the flu shot that made them sick but more in likely they had the flu or a strain of the flu. Some people do get sick after the flu shot but not always to the point of hospitalization.  I actually have a friend whose grandson has had the flu shot and he got sick from a virus that wasn't flu virus and the doctors even said without him having the flu shot that he could have died.

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« Reply #105 on: December 09, 2019, 11:08:30 am »
It probably wasn't the flu shot that made them sick but nore in likely they had the flu or a strain of the flu. Some people do get sick after the flu shot but not always to the point of hospitalization.  I actually have a friend whose grandson has had the flu shot and he got sick from a virus that wasn't flu virus and the doctors even said without him having the flu shot that he could have died.

I hope your right, because the way I'm seeing it now my stepfather's flu shot made him very sick, he had to go to the hospital, then my mom got it, and she never gets colds, ever!! Now she's in the hospital.

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« Reply #106 on: December 09, 2019, 11:58:18 am »
It probably wasn't the flu shot that made them sick but more in likely they had the flu or a strain of the flu. Some people do get sick after the flu shot but not always to the point of hospitalization.  I actually have a friend whose grandson has had the flu shot and he got sick from a virus that wasn't flu virus and the doctors even said without him having the flu shot that he could have died.

Update, just found out my mom was discharged, was getting ready to visit. She was only there 4 hours. Who knows how she got the cold, blame it on the rain, as the song goes. Thanks for your concern. But I'm still not getting the flu shot.
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« Reply #107 on: December 09, 2019, 01:25:24 pm »
Update, just found out my mom was discharged, was getting ready to visit. She was only there 4 hours. Who knows how she got the cold, blame it on the rain, as the song goes. Thanks for your concern. But I'm still not getting the flu shot.
You probably need to check the stats on number of people who died and didn't get a flu shot.  The numbers are staggering.