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Making the Vaccine Decision
« on: March 07, 2019, 11:04:56 pm »
I'm of the thought that this is a no brainer, get your children vaccined!
Any opposing thoughts?

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Re: Making the Vaccine Decision
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2019, 03:36:37 am »
I'm of the thought that this is a no brainer, get your children vaccined!
Any opposing thoughts?
I have 0 trust in the government but there is no evidence that kids being vaccinated has any adverse effects
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2019, 05:58:32 am »
We vaccinated our kids. Have a doctor friend who vaccinated 2 of his kids and 1 he didn't,  the one he didn't has autism.  He has said he wished he had vaccinated him and that there is no correlation of vaccinations causing autism. 

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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2019, 06:00:47 am »
I have 0 trust in the government but there is no evidence that kids being vaccinated has any adverse effects

Interesting take, Joanna. Let me counter with this.



One could draw conclusions using parallel timelines of vaccine usage with abnormal human behaviors that go against natural and cultural norms. Let's take a look, shall we?


In 1796, with Edward Jenner’s innovations, was his successful use of cowpox material to create immunity to smallpox. Within 40 years, enough time for the inoculated to have children, 1840's women started lashing out towards their biological dispositions not only in nature but also culturally.  Since the dispersion of medicine was slower back in the 19th century and the primitive type it (the vaccine) was, it would explain the 40 year gap between it's usage and it's outward noticeable effects.

During this time slavery was also abolished in the "civilized" vaccinated world. Slavery, a natural human and cultural phenomenon that has gone on since the beginning of human existence wiped out within one generation.(1865 in the US, 1834 in the UK, Spain and France also in the early 1800's.) The consequences of the effects of this vaccine was probably the first ever to effect humans on a global scale, and millions died going against their evolutionary prerogative.




Louis Pasteur’s 1885 rabies vaccine, chicken cholera and Anthrax vaccines was the next to make an impact on human behaviors. Some of these vaccines were injected into the food chain (cows, horse, goats, sheep, chickens) and in turn, consumed by humans. The on going unnatural and freakish women's suffrage movement comes to a boiling point in the 1920's. The 1930's, where the US has seen wide spread use of vaccines, the 'Dust Bowl', where human farmers completely forgot how to farm properly, causing massive waves of famine and starvation. This also could explain the cause of the so called  'world' wars within the vaccinated "civilized" European sphere when the rest of the world was relatively peaceful and unvaccinated.


During the mid 20th century, with the mass production and inoculation of the western world. We have seen the abnormal effects of vaccination with the integration of the negro into white society, rampant homosexuality, radical feminism, the 'sexual revolution' and so much more.  Just take the "sexual revolution" and feminism as a prime example. Women who once only mated with the "prime providers", a well known evolutionary trait to propagate the species now have flooded the world with grotesque, sickly kids from the shallow end of the gene-pool.  Just look at all the amount of sub-prime, welfare baby incubators popping out kids from the 'beta-male' class compare to middle class America/Europe, or even the rich.  Totally against evolutionary standards and this is the only time in history this has ever been recorded. It's no coincidence that it coincides with mass vaccinations.




The "powers that be" have hidden this epidemic crisis from us and blurred it's outward signs with the use of technology (Farm machinery, GPS, Google, Spell Check).Look how many things that now have to be done by machines because humans have de-evolved against nature due to vaccine use. Clearly they are using mass hysteria about fake 'germs' to inject us, dumbing us down. How else do you think they will usher in a one world government?     It's nuts! How does anyone not see this?



With that said, "The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act" in the US and the "Vaccine Damage Payment" in the UK ,1986 and 1997 respectively. Even though maybe not an admission of guilt, one can assume that maybe it would be cheaper to pay hush money than to open yourself up to a lawsuit and investigation. Personally, I don't care if it did have a very small percentage of side effects, clearly the benefit of vaccinations outweighs the negatives. It also should be legally mandated globally for public health reasons - your "parental rights" be damned.



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Re: Making the Vaccine Decision
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2019, 08:54:10 am »
Interesting take, Joanna. Let me counter with this.



One could draw conclusions using parallel timelines of vaccine usage with abnormal human behaviors that go against natural and cultural norms. Let's take a look, shall we?


In 1796, with Edward Jenner’s innovations, was his successful use of cowpox material to create immunity to smallpox. Within 40 years, enough time for the inoculated to have children, 1840's women started lashing out towards their biological dispositions not only in nature but also culturally.  Since the dispersion of medicine was slower back in the 19th century and the primitive type it (the vaccine) was, it would explain the 40 year gap between it's usage and it's outward noticeable effects.

During this time slavery was also abolished in the "civilized" vaccinated world. Slavery, a natural human and cultural phenomenon that has gone on since the beginning of human existence wiped out within one generation.(1865 in the US, 1834 in the UK, Spain and France also in the early 1800's.) The consequences of the effects of this vaccine was probably the first ever to effect humans on a global scale, and millions died going against their evolutionary prerogative.




Louis Pasteur’s 1885 rabies vaccine, chicken cholera and Anthrax vaccines was the next to make an impact on human behaviors. Some of these vaccines were injected into the food chain (cows, horse, goats, sheep, chickens) and in turn, consumed by humans. The on going unnatural and freakish women's suffrage movement comes to a boiling point in the 1920's. The 1930's, where the US has seen wide spread use of vaccines, the 'Dust Bowl', where human farmers completely forgot how to farm properly, causing massive waves of famine and starvation. This also could explain the cause of the so called  'world' wars within the vaccinated "civilized" European sphere when the rest of the world was relatively peaceful and unvaccinated.


During the mid 20th century, with the mass production and inoculation of the western world. We have seen the abnormal effects of vaccination with the integration of the negro into white society, rampant homosexuality, radical feminism, the 'sexual revolution' and so much more.  Just take the "sexual revolution" and feminism as a prime example. Women who once only mated with the "prime providers", a well known evolutionary trait to propagate the species now have flooded the world with grotesque, sickly kids from the shallow end of the gene-pool.  Just look at all the amount of sub-prime, welfare baby incubators popping out kids from the 'beta-male' class compare to middle class America/Europe, or even the rich.  Totally against evolutionary standards and this is the only time in history this has ever been recorded. It's no coincidence that it coincides with mass vaccinations.




The "powers that be" have hidden this epidemic crisis from us and blurred it's outward signs with the use of technology (Farm machinery, GPS, Google, Spell Check).Look how many things that now have to be done by machines because humans have de-evolved against nature due to vaccine use. Clearly they are using mass hysteria about fake 'germs' to inject us, dumbing us down. How else do you think they will usher in a one world government?     It's nuts! How does anyone not see this?



With that said, "The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act" in the US and the "Vaccine Damage Payment" in the UK ,1986 and 1997 respectively. Even though maybe not an admission of guilt, one can assume that maybe it would be cheaper to pay hush money than to open yourself up to a lawsuit and investigation. Personally, I don't care if it did have a very small percentage of side effects, clearly the benefit of vaccinations outweighs the negatives. It also should be legally mandated globally for public health reasons - your "parental rights" be damned.
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Re: Making the Vaccine Decision
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2019, 10:04:13 am »
All my kids were vaccinated all doing well

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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2019, 10:34:30 am »
All my kids were vaccinated all doing well
We vaccinated our 2 kids except our son couldn't get the Hep. B vaccine as he has Hep. B from his birth mother. He underwent infereon (sp.) and is considered to be in remission. We have told him that his future spouse will have had to have the Hep. B. vaccine.

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« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2019, 03:34:09 am »
When I hear and read about what is going into these vaccines, I think I would be hesitant for my kids too. I mean I believe in getting Measles shots, any shot needed, but the stuff they are using in todays shots may be very different than say 50 years ago, or even 10 years ago.  I think people are just afraid of what these shots can do, alot of stuff is being said out here, whether the stuff is true I don't know, have to dig deeper.

You think as years go by the vaccines would  get better, not worse and cause diseases (I don't know if this is prooven yet) must dig deeper in research this info.

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« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2019, 03:55:25 am »
Even the flu shots arn't effective, so why get them? I havn't had a flu shot in several years, and not been sick once, just minor colds.

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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2019, 08:06:03 am »
When I hear and read about what is going into these vaccines, I think I would be hesitant for my kids too. I mean I believe in getting Measles shots, any shot needed, but the stuff they are using in todays shots may be very different than say 50 years ago, or even 10 years ago.  I think people are just afraid of what these shots can do, alot of stuff is being said out here, whether the stuff is true I don't know, have to dig deeper.

You think as years go by the vaccines would  get better, not worse and cause diseases (I don't know if this is prooven yet) must dig deeper in research this info.
For the most part there is no evidence showing getting your kids vaccinated is harmful but there is a ton of facts showing not going and vaccinated is harmful. Chicken pox, measles, mumps and all have been on the rise against ones who didn't vaccinate. 

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« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2019, 05:50:43 pm »
For the most part there is no evidence showing getting your kids vaccinated is harmful but there is a ton of facts showing not going and vaccinated is harmful. Chicken pox, measles, mumps and all have been on the rise against ones who didn't vaccinate.

From what I hear in the news, these shots go against some peoples Religions. I don't know what religions they are, but we do have alot of Immigrants here. Have never heard of a Measle outbreak before, I'm thinking maybe that is also the reason, Religions-or that is fake news. Alot of people dont want these shots for whatever the reason is. Maybe there is bad ingredients going into the shots. Nurses don't want to take the flu shot for its ingridients. Maybe there is some truth to this stuff.

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« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2019, 06:06:26 pm »
From what I hear in the news, these shots go against some peoples Religions. I don't know what religions they are, but we do have alot of Immigrants here. Have never heard of a Measle outbreak before, I'm thinking maybe that is also the reason, Religions-or that is fake news. Alot of people dont want these shots for whatever the reason is. Maybe there is bad ingredients going into the shots. Nurses don't want to take the flu shot for its ingridients. Maybe there is some truth to this stuff.
No truth in any of it unless you believe that hype. Not sure what nurses you talk to but all my nurse friends and the nurses I have advise to get the flu shots, just because it might not cover one strain of flu it will prevent another strain. Some people who don't want to get vaccinated believe that it causes autism, no correlation at all in that.

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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2019, 10:21:43 pm »
No truth in any of it unless you believe that hype. Not sure what nurses you talk to but all my nurse friends and the nurses I have advise to get the flu shots, just because it might not cover one strain of flu it will prevent another strain. Some people who don't want to get vaccinated believe that it causes autism, no correlation at all in that.

There were big stories in the news sev. years ago, that nurses were forced to take their flu shots or get fired in certain states. How do we know its hype, there are studies done vaccines give autism. It's getting bad out here when people cant trust FDA. Alot of FDA foods say they are safe, and later studies find foods are not.

Everyhing is about money, and who cares about the people. It's always been this way.

just like when they said smake vapor ciggs, they are safe and good way to quit smoking. Now they say stop, they kill.

All this hype about ciggaretts being addictive and bad for you, yet legalize pot as a rec. drug this is good for you, its nat - ur - al! What a joke, all about money.

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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2019, 10:28:20 pm »
There were big stories in the news sev. years ago, that nurses were forced to take their flu shots or get fired in certain states. How do we know its hype, there are studies done vaccines give autism. It's getting bad out here when people cant trust FDA. Alot of FDA foods say they are safe, and later studies find foods are not.

Everyhing is about money, and who cares about the people. It's always been this way.

just like when they said smake vapor ciggs, they are safe and good way to quit smoking. Now they say stop, they kill.

All this hype about ciggaretts being addictive and bad for you, yet legalize pot as a rec. drug this is good for you, its nat - ur - al! What a joke, all about money.

My point is, what is the truth? As in these expamples, 1st its safe, than it kills you.

No wonder people are afraid of taking these vaccines, who knows what they put in them.

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« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2019, 10:33:28 pm »
No truth in any of it unless you believe that hype. Not sure what nurses you talk to but all my nurse friends and the nurses I have advise to get the flu shots, just because it might not cover one strain of flu it will prevent another strain. Some people who don't want to get vaccinated believe that it causes autism, no correlation at all in that.

I would need proof measle vaccines are safe from a reliable source before I would give it too my kids if i had any.

As far as the flu vac. I don't need it.

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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2019, 11:10:14 pm »
No truth in any of it unless you believe that hype. Not sure what nurses you talk to but all my nurse friends and the nurses I have advise to get the flu shots, just because it might not cover one strain of flu it will prevent another strain. Some people who don't want to get vaccinated believe that it causes autism, no correlation at all in that.

Nurses decline flu vacine - some examples. They don't like the flu shot ingredients, they say is harmful to your body.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5410084/

https://www.intoxicatedonlife.com/truth-about-flu-vaccine/

https://www.governing.com/topics/health-human-services/khn-flu-shot-vaccine-hospital-workers.html

https://nurse.org/articles/vaccine-controversy-within-the-nursing-profession/




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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2019, 07:21:25 am »
I would need proof measle vaccines are safe from a reliable source before I would give it too my kids if i had any.

As far as the flu vac. I don't need it.
If you don't want to get the measles vaccine that is your choice but when your child ends up with measles than you will say you should have. As a matter of fact many schools won't let you enroll your kids without immunizations such as measles vaccine. I know you have no kids so when you do your decisions will change, a good pediatrician will tell you that you are putting your children in jeopardy of not getting them immunized.