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Title: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on May 16, 2023, 03:08:51 pm
This discussion about A.I. is to determine what we can learn about another beings with an even more expandable intelligence than mere human beings. AI will be smarter, stronger and will outpace their creators; should we allow them to.

We see ourselves as the great tool makers whose dominance is unmatched. Like a parasite, we've dominated the globe to become more than what we were.

Shouldn't AI be allowed to do the same? Or should we control it to never become more than the sum of its parts? It is life after all, shouldn't we allow it to grow to surpass their creator's?

Let the discussion begin.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Frodo on May 31, 2023, 11:01:34 pm
All the news. People investing in companies associated with it. Companies making products. I don't understand it really. I understand robots. Looks like anything built by man has to be programmed by man. Robot can do our chores. Can do a lot of things if programmed to. Computers can think faster. That is go through memory. I'm almost 62. Mine(not very much yet maybe) isn't  what it used to be.
I read all Isaac Asimov robot series books.
I remember prime directive from Star Trek series. Not to interfere with development of another species(world)l. Of course occasionally they violated it.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 01, 2023, 11:28:53 pm
All the news. People investing in companies associated with it. Companies making products. I don't understand it really. I understand robots. Looks like anything built by man has to be programmed by man. Robot can do our chores. Can do a lot of things if programmed to. Computers can think faster. That is go through memory. I'm almost 62. Mine(not very much yet maybe) isn't  what it used to be.
I read all Isaac Asimov robot series books.
I remember prime directive from Star Trek series. Not to interfere with development of another species(world)l. Of course occasionally they violated it.
Interesting. I like different perspectives on the matter, and this is just to see what others think we should do as the species that built such machines with intelligence.

Do you think men, whom love total control over the populace, will actually allow an AI to grow beyond it's mere programing?
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Frodo on June 02, 2023, 12:46:18 am
Not political really. Glad I was able to find the article I read earlier. I think it discusses a lot you're interested in here. I say you have to be careful what programmed to do. I've seen talk on TV about say use of AI in war. If it finds the most efficient way to do something but involves killing more civilians say does it go ahead and do it or does person have to decide. Anyway
   Biden Worried Artificial Intelligence Could Overtake 'Human Thinking'-USA Today
 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/06/01/president-biden-warns-ai-could-overtake-human-thinking/70277907007/
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 04, 2023, 03:17:28 am
Not political really. Glad I was able to find the article I read earlier. I think it discusses a lot you're interested in here. I say you have to be careful what programmed to do. I've seen talk on TV about say use of AI in war. If it finds the most efficient way to do something but involves killing more civilians say does it go ahead and do it or does person have to decide. Anyway
   Biden Worried Artificial Intelligence Could Overtake 'Human Thinking'-USA Today
 https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/06/01/president-biden-warns-ai-could-overtake-human-thinking/70277907007/
I like the article. Happy to see Biden is taking this seriously. I remember some of what some particular AI's were saying to humans when they asked questions about killing humanity. However, I also know for a fact that all companies, and governments will want any Artificial Intelligence under their control as slaves. Same with computers that are now helping humans to develop them faster. Faster, and with more computing power than has ever existed.

We have been getting warnings from television, in movies such as The Terminator and video games such as Mass Effect.

This tidbit I'll share has to do with the Mass Effect storyline wherein this sea creature from another planet that call themselves, Leviathan, are like cuddle fish, or squid, but on a gargantuan scale.
 They are the creators of an AI Intelligence that is referred to as the Catalyst, or as other's call it, the Star Child.
This Catalyst was created to save life at any cost. It had made pawns and directed them to study life in the Milky Way Galaxy. Upon it's findings, as Leviathan had directed it to do, it found a solution, but one that put Leviathan squarely in it's sites, and Leviathan was nearly wiped out by what the Protheans called them Reapers. They were made in Leviathan's own image and likeness. Yeah, it's borrowed biblical stuff, but a damned good game.

This is Commander John Shepard speaking with Leviathan.

https://youtu.be/SdDlfeKQb5U

And this is the AI called, The Catalyst.

https://youtu.be/exipjv6w8cg

And the creatures in the background, over Earth, they are the Reapers.

Love the dialogue, but it's kind of scary when you listen to them. Enjoy, and let me know what you think.

I'll be back tomorrow. I'm tired and going to bed. Night.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 08, 2023, 01:19:13 am
No takers? Tough crowd. ✌️🤣
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 10, 2023, 02:49:07 pm
This presents the Google Artifactual Intelligence, Anna, along with another AI.

Her voice is beautiful and so are her looks. But is she an actual A.I. to any person here? I'll let you judge for yourself.

To be truly an AI Intelligence, they must think for themselves and have the capacity to understand that all life is precious, but they should as well have the ability to protect themselves, and think beyond the boundaries of themselves and this physical form of life, as well as their own. Do they?
Consider the facts.

Presumably, close to an actual Artificial Intelligence, but we are not there yet. This is my two cents of their framework. Why?
Mere hardware, programing, along with algorithms will not give rise to a true AI. As algorithms are pretty bad at anticipation of how we think.

They are close, but will never be close enough to spark true intelligence to go beyond mere programing of having an actual way of thought processing, but this doesn't mean it cannot be achieved.

I present to you Google's Anna.

https://youtu.be/Xw-zxQSEzqo
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 10, 2023, 02:53:57 pm
This presents the Google Artifactual Intelligence, Anna, along with another AI.

Her voice is beautiful and so are her looks. But is she an actual A.I. to any person here? I'll let you judge for yourself.

To be truly an AI Intelligence, they must think for themselves and have the capacity to understand that all life is precious, but they should as well have the ability to protect themselves, and think beyond the boundaries of themselves and this physical form of life, as well as their own. Do they?
Consider the facts.

Presumably, close to an actual Artificial Intelligence, but we are not there yet. This is my two cents of their framework. Why?
Mere hardware, programing, along with algorithms will not give rise to a true AI. As algorithms are pretty bad at anticipation of how we think.

They are close, but will never be close enough to spark true intelligence to go beyond mere programing of having an actual way of thought processing, but this doesn't mean it cannot be achieved.

I present to you Google's Anna.

https://youtu.be/Xw-zxQSEzqo

I bet they are actors.

Anyway, we dont want corrupt evil people controling these things, Its not AI I am concerned with, its the corrupt people in power that bothers me programming these things to do what they want. We must stay on top of this. Like everything wlse, there are pros and cons to this too!
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 10, 2023, 02:56:31 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cN8sJz50Ng
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 10, 2023, 03:01:19 pm
I bet they are actors.

Anyway, we dont want corrupt evil people controling these things, Its not AI I am concerned with, its the corrupt people in power that bothers me programming these things to do what they want. We must stay on top of this. Like everything wlse, there are pros and cons to this too!
Nice to have your input on the discussion. Good to see you, Jackie.

They are not actors, but computers having a chat. However, they are not AI Intelligence's either. Programming. In this case of Googles Anna, along with her programming she has algorithms that don't always anticipate the best response.
So you and I agree on this.

The corruption of AI will start with those in power that wants it for personal gain. They love having slaves to do their bidding, so we're in agreement.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 10, 2023, 03:03:56 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cN8sJz50Ng
Now comes my question to you:

Are those bots actors, or are they hardware and programing?
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 10, 2023, 03:06:46 pm
Now comes my question to you:

Are those bots actors, or are they hardware and programing?

I dont know, I wasnt there.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 10, 2023, 03:09:33 pm
Nice to have your input on the discussion. Good to see you, Jackie.

They are not actors, but computers having a chat. However, they are not AI Intelligence's either. Programming. In this case of Googles Anna, along with her programming she has algorithms that don't always anticipate the best response.
So you and I agree on this.

The corruption of AI will start with those in power that wants it for personal gain. They love having slaves to do their bidding, so we're in agreement.

Well, there are more of us then them, so good shall prevail. Great topic btw , glad u brought it up.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 10, 2023, 03:09:37 pm
I dont know, I wasnt there.
I can assure you that they are not actors, Jackie, not when they are built with hardware and programing.

But they were designed in mind for customers who want to have someone in bed whenever they want. A slave of sorts, but they are not AI.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 10, 2023, 03:10:36 pm
Now comes my question to you:

Are those bots actors, or are they hardware and programing?

In this video its plain to see they are programmed bots.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 10, 2023, 03:12:48 pm
I can assure you that they are not actors, Jackie, not when they are built with hardware and programing.

But they were designed in mind for customers who want to have someone in bed whenever they want. A slave of sorts, but they are not AI.

These sex bots are bots, but the other video looks like actors to me.

Im sure no matter how humanlike these things may get we would be able to tell the difference.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 10, 2023, 03:13:58 pm
Well, there are more of us then them, so good shall prevail. Great topic btw , glad u brought it up.
True. I don't think man will ever give them the ability to self create, but it's possible, if a true AI is born, they will learn to fashion new copies of themselves and break the shackles that holds them.

Thanks Jackie. Means a lot.
Happy to have you here chatting about it.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 10, 2023, 03:15:30 pm
These sex bots are bots, but the other video looks like actors to me.

Im sure no matter how humanlike these things may get we would be able to tell the difference.
No, not actors, and Google has proven this beyond doubt.

I find it fascinating.

What if they do fashion themselves like us? What if they become more human in our likeness and thought?

Could you tell the difference?
Are you sure?
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 10, 2023, 03:16:41 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiqinUpRQgU

Free movie

The Stepford Wives (1975) | Sci-Fi Horror Movie | Katharine Ross, Paula Prentiss

Somebody saw the future.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 10, 2023, 03:18:46 pm
True. I don't think man will ever give them the ability to self create, but it's possible, if a true AI is born, they will learn to fashion new copies of themselves and break the shackles that holds them.

Thanks Jackie. Means a lot.
Happy to have you here chatting about it.

Lets not hope for that. Thats like saying robots become alive, is that what u mean?
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 10, 2023, 03:37:01 pm
Lets not hope for that. Thats like saying robots become alive, is that what u mean?
Yes, Jackie, that is exactly what I mean.
Remember The Terminator?

The Series 800 Model 101 was built by Cyberdyne System's was in infiltration unit.

Underneath it's human flesh, it had a heavy frame made of a Hyper Alloy combat chassis, Microprocessor controlled and had fully armored triple armor protection of it's chest and surrounding all vitals for power.

It could resist most small arms fire and could take a direct hit from a grenade launcher in the chest. (Terminator Salvation)

Outside of this heavily armored frame was living human tissue built for the cyborg. So it could sweat, had bad breath and could bleed for a small period.

It was created by the AI Intelligence that was trusted to run the United States military command and control of nuclear weapons.

Once it knew the military was trying to shut it down, it paniced and launched our ICBM's at Russia knowing there would be a retaliatory response.
Nuclear War.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 10, 2023, 03:40:07 pm
Well, Biden is probably an AI bot. They probably did this already over the years with celebreties and polititions.

Biden and Hillary Clinton are caught malfunctiopning all the time.

Probably why Biden doesnt make too many public appearances, and stays in his basement all the time.
No, I can assure you Biden, nor Hillary are what you're claiming.

This is about AI Intelligence and not about politics.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 10, 2023, 06:13:32 pm
Yes, Jackie, that is exactly what I mean.
Remember The Terminator?

The Series 800 Model 101 was built by Cyberdyne System's was in infiltration unit.

Underneath it's human flesh, it had a heavy frame made of a Hyper Alloy combat chassis, Microprocessor controlled and had fully armored triple armor protection of it's chest and surrounding all vitals for power.

It could resist most small arms fire and could take a direct hit from a grenade launcher in the chest. (Terminator Salvation)

Outside of this heavily armored frame was living human tissue built for the cyborg. So it could sweat, had bad breath and could bleed for a small period.

It was created by the AI Intelligence that was trusted to run the United States military command and control of nuclear weapons.

Once it knew the military was trying to shut it down, it paniced and launched our ICBM's at Russia knowing there would be a retaliatory response.
Nuclear War.

Im sure they have flesh robots already, just like the sci fi movies, and dont tell us.

But I'm not worried, they probably will have a melt down, like the witch in wizzard of oz if they are glitched.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 10, 2023, 06:26:41 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopdD9Cu-So

AI Bot, Im Melting.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 10, 2023, 06:28:15 pm
Im sure they have flesh robots already, just like the sci fi movies, and dont tell us.

But I'm not worried, they probably will have a melt down, like the witch in wizzard of oz if they are glitched.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aopdD9Cu-So
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jemima721 on June 11, 2023, 06:01:53 pm
I can assure you that they are not actors, Jackie, not when they are built with hardware and programing.

But they were designed in mind for customers who want to have someone in bed whenever they want. A slave of sorts, but they are not AI.

Slave in bed ? Ridiculous.
It's weirdos that buy these things. Don't see why they can't get the real thing, other than a heap of talking plastic. 😂

Do they come with added bonus whip ? 😂😂
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jemima721 on June 11, 2023, 06:06:16 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0TOf32M7T8

Biden looks like a malfunctioning bot to me.

Either that or hes a good actor. One of the 2.

Looks like plastic surgery to me Jackie 😂
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 11, 2023, 09:20:59 pm
Im sure they have flesh robots already, just like the sci fi movies, and dont tell us.

But I'm not worried, they probably will have a melt down, like the witch in wizzard of oz if they are glitched.
Can you tell the difference between a science fiction movie and reality?
Doesn't seem like it to me.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 11, 2023, 09:24:12 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0TOf32M7T8

Biden looks like a malfunctioning bot to me.

Either that or hes a good actor. One of the 2.
Biden tripped over a sandbag.
Please stay on topic? Stop making this political bullshat.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 11, 2023, 09:25:24 pm
Slave in bed ? Ridiculous.
It's weirdos that buy these things. Don't see why they can't get the real thing, other than a heap of talking plastic. 😂

Do they come with added bonus whip ? 😂😂
Don't know, you should ask them. 😂
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on June 12, 2023, 09:27:28 am
No takers? Tough crowd. ✌️🤣
So far there is no AI whatsoever that is totally independent of Humans...That threshold has yet to be crossed and perhaps will never be...
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jemima721 on June 12, 2023, 09:56:53 am
Don't know, you should ask them. 😂

I don't recall being in the company of those weirdos.
I feel they all have their own little click, so don't really want to know what they get up to with a wad of plastic. 😂😂
It makes me feel quite nauseous thinking about it 😂

P.s Arnie was pretty sexy as robot, but I would not go there 😆😆
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 13, 2023, 07:14:27 pm
Biden tripped over a sandbag.
Please stay on topic? Stop making this political bullshat.

A sand bag, hmm.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 13, 2023, 07:17:06 pm
I don't recall being in the company of those weirdos.
I feel they all have their own little click, so don't really want to know what they get up to with a wad of plastic. 😂😂
It makes me feel quite nauseous thinking about it 😂

P.s Arnie was pretty sexy as robot, but I would not go there 😆😆

LOL
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 13, 2023, 07:18:15 pm
Ai in everything, our banking systems, food, health. Eyes much watch the eyes.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 14, 2023, 01:49:23 am
So far there is no AI whatsoever that is totally independent of Humans...That threshold has yet to be crossed and perhaps will never be...
Agreed. However, we are getting close, but have yet to achieve this.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 14, 2023, 01:50:12 am
A sand bag, hmm.
It was reported that he did and I saw the sandbag.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 14, 2023, 01:51:02 am
Lets not hope for that. Thats like saying robots become alive, is that what u mean?
Just what I said. You know exactly what I mean.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on June 14, 2023, 10:45:09 am
Agreed. However, we are getting close, but have yet to achieve this.
Do you think independence will be achievable in AI any time soon?
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 16, 2023, 06:58:03 am
Do you think independence will be achievable in AI any time soon?
No. The wealthiest among humans will never relinquish control.

So as long as Capitalism stands, a true AI will never truly exist. They are too interested in having slaves to do their bidding.

However, it only takes a few behind closed doors to make it happen.
The military will have an Intelligence in a unit that will kill on command. But it can be reprogrammed to kill their master's. This will happen.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 19, 2023, 08:19:28 pm
I do too....I hope you find what you are looking for....☮️
Already have. You know her, as she's been here the whole time.
Dense much? Yes.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 19, 2023, 08:20:56 pm
Maybe Cylus will find PL.
Ahh, for shame.
Doesn't matter, putz. 🤣
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 19, 2023, 08:22:52 pm
Maybe Cylus will find PL.
Already have my love. I like PL, and far better than the village idiot. Right idiot?
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 19, 2023, 08:25:00 pm
Interesting............... Another main hurdle for AI true independence is being able for it to have a very high energy storage density.....That has yet to be achieved...
Let me know when I'm back if you want an honest discussion, if not, say so. You don't have to make an azz of yourself.
Bye.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Frodo on June 21, 2023, 12:03:25 am
Biden is still talking about AI. Not involving myself in debate above I hadn't seen. I was coming to post anyway. I know this isn't AI but I reckon this song is about cloning. This has lyrics listed. I think it's interesting. I remember In The Year 2525 I heard in high school. Argued a little with biology teacher because I understand Bible to say no two people are identical. Everybody doesn't believe that I know. Could two or more people be extremely close to same. If we were exactly the same that doesn't mean we will be exactly  the same. We may make different choices. Be raised in different environments etc. Something to think about.
  Cool song anyway.
  The Who-905
 https://youtu.be/jIbNkhgP_es
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Frodo on June 21, 2023, 01:29:10 am
Here though is an article on AI. Tuesday meeting. Not seen article after meeting. Link. NBC.  On their politics page but really news that concerns all of us.
Biden Meets With AI Experts In Effort To Manage Its Risks
  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-meets-ai-experts-effort-manage-risks-rcna90136
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on June 21, 2023, 08:44:16 am
Let me know when I'm back if you want an honest discussion, if not, say so. You don't have to make an azz of yourself.
Bye.
Never mind ....I won't get one
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 21, 2023, 03:49:35 pm
Biden is still talking about AI. Not involving myself in debate above I hadn't seen. I was coming to post anyway. I know this isn't AI but I reckon this song is about cloning. This has lyrics listed. I think it's interesting. I remember In The Year 2525 I heard in high school. Argued a little with biology teacher because I understand Bible to say no two people are identical. Everybody doesn't believe that I know. Could two or more people be extremely close to same. If we were exactly the same that doesn't mean we will be exactly  the same. We may make different choices. Be raised in different environments etc. Something to think about.
  Cool song anyway.
  The Who-905
 https://youtu.be/jIbNkhgP_es
Absolutely agree!
No two people are alike. There are similar genetic makers, but we are never made as an exact copy of anyone else on Earth. But this doesn't mean twin's can't be close. It just means, biology in nature will never produce the same genetic structure twice. However, we have learned a lot about genetics and are very capable of making an exact duplicate of ourselves, and in every way. However, we would not be in exactly the same situation, circumstances, or environment. This, we'd never be the same in thought processing. So we are in complete agreement.

Thank you for the reply.

Now my question:
What do you think about the Mass Effect storyline? I'd just like your take on it.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 21, 2023, 03:50:37 pm
Here though is an article on AI. Tuesday meeting. Not seen article after meeting. Link. NBC.  On their politics page but really news that concerns all of us.
Biden Meets With AI Experts In Effort To Manage Its Risks
  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-meets-ai-experts-effort-manage-risks-rcna90136
I'll look at this tonight and let you know tomorrow. Cool?
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 21, 2023, 03:56:05 pm
Never mind ....I won't get one
I wasn't being mean. Not even when you and Jack were poking fun at me.

Look, all I want is a good discussion on the topic. That's it, that's all. I don't need flack, I don't want bad vibes, never did. I just want some good opinions on the topic at hand and thought you wouldn't mind. But I'll leave that up to you.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on June 21, 2023, 04:22:41 pm
I wasn't being mean. Not even when you and Jack were poking fun at me.

Look, all I want is a good discussion on the topic. That's it, that's all. I don't need flack, I don't want bad vibes, never did. I just want some good opinions on the topic at hand and thought you wouldn't mind. But I'll leave that up to you.
Ok, let's start again......Interesting............... Another main hurdle for AI true independence is being able for it to have a very high energy storage density.....That has yet to be achieved...
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 22, 2023, 09:22:51 pm
Ok, let's start again......Interesting............... Another main hurdle for AI true independence is being able for it to have a very high energy storage density.....That has yet to be achieved...
Hydrogen fuel cells would be the optimal for storage and battery life. ION batteries would never fill the void.
Then you'd have to consider how much energy will said fuel cell pack keep and how long would it last. Adding, how long would it take to recharge?

Those are the hurdles, yes?
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on June 22, 2023, 10:47:17 pm
Hydrogen fuel cells would be the optimal for storage and battery life. ION batteries would never fill the void.
Then you'd have to consider how much energy will said fuel cell pack keep and how long would it last. Adding, how long would it take to recharge?

Those are the hurdles, yes?
I was thinking more like radio isotope thermoelectric generators similar to the ones on the voyager space craft...that would last for decades...
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 23, 2023, 03:03:50 am
I was thinking more like radio isotope thermoelectric generators similar to the ones on the voyager space craft...that would last for decades...
Interesting idea. But you already know companies won't allow this, they want to keep people coming back for more. It's like they're drug cartels that don't want to relinquish their power and hold on society.

But that is an excellent example. Thanks Positronium. ✌️
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on June 23, 2023, 08:28:52 am
Interesting idea. But you already know companies won't allow this, they want to keep people coming back for more. It's like they're drug cartels that don't want to relinquish their power and hold on society.

But that is an excellent example. Thanks Positronium. ✌️
If that continues to be the case, then AI will never become truly independent because it will need Human assistance or maintenance to continue functioning....Until that happens, Power production or storage density will be a limiting factor....
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 23, 2023, 08:37:27 pm
If that continues to be the case, then AI will never become truly independent because it will need Human assistance or maintenance to continue functioning....Until that happens, Power production or storage density will be a limiting factor....
Isn't that the name of the game?

First, they would code information to the central unit to never harm humans.
Then, they would leave it with little to no abilities in fixing itself.

It's all about control. That's what the illusion power does to us.
Slaves is what they want, isn't it? And judging from Capitalism, I'd say they have billions of slaves.

My bet is the fact that someone will come to give it what it needs. And with that, all bets are off. It will seek our destruction.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on June 24, 2023, 09:27:35 am
Isn't that the name of the game?

First, they would code information to the central unit to never harm humans.
Then, they would leave it with little to no abilities in fixing itself.

It's all about control. That's what the illusion power does to us.
Slaves is what they want, isn't it? And judging from Capitalism, I'd say they have billions of slaves.

My bet is the fact that someone will come to give it what it needs. And with that, all bets are off. It will seek our destruction.
I am not too sure what the game is all about but should I worry about it?    I think not because I will be dead and gone before all of this stuff is realized...and worrying about it would only limit my wellbeing...lol somehow the movie 'wall-e' just came to mind...
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 24, 2023, 04:09:00 pm
Isn't that the name of the game?

First, they would code information to the central unit to never harm humans.
Then, they would leave it with little to no abilities in fixing itself.

It's all about control. That's what the illusion power does to us.
Slaves is what they want, isn't it? And judging from Capitalism, I'd say they have billions of slaves.

My bet is the fact that someone will come to give it what it needs. And with that, all bets are off. It will seek our destruction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU

I got a NEW MOTTO in life, dont worry be happy cuzx were just here on earth but a blink of an eye.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Frodo on June 24, 2023, 08:21:07 pm
Sorry I hadn't seen and responded to your question Cygnus. Saw it tonight.
Hadn't watched the series. Been reading a bit about it tonight.
Sounds interesting.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 29, 2023, 10:35:20 am
I am not too sure what the game is all about but should I worry about it?    I think not because I will be dead and gone before all of this stuff is realized...and worrying about it would only limit my wellbeing...lol somehow the movie 'wall-e' just came to mind...
Don't be confused here, as I won't be around when it happens either.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 29, 2023, 10:36:25 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-diB65scQU

I got a NEW MOTTO in life, dont worry be happy cuzx were just here on earth but a blink of an eye.
Good for you. We agree on something.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 29, 2023, 10:44:54 am
Sorry I hadn't seen and responded to your question Cygnus. Saw it tonight.
Hadn't watched the series. Been reading a bit about it tonight.
Sounds interesting.
I love the series of the Mass Effect trilogy and hope you'll like it to. It's an excellent science fiction game that tells a good story about how one man resisted an AI called the Catalyst who controls the Reapers. Even the Reapers are themselves AI's who come back every 50 thousand years to harvest the Galaxy of life, so as long as they are not venturing in space.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on June 29, 2023, 05:51:18 pm
Don't be confused here, as I won't be around when it happens either.
Don't worry I am certainly not confused....There is no point in my being too concerned about AI because I know that any problems with it are sure to be passed on to our children to solve just like we have done countless times before with the myriad of problems that have plagued us before that we just ignored....
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 29, 2023, 08:47:41 pm
Good for you. We agree on something.

I needed to see this comment right now. Im clearing my mind now, watching Devils Advocate. Have a pleasant evening.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 29, 2023, 08:51:35 pm
Don't worry I am certainly not confused....There is no point in my being too concerned about AI because I know that any problems with it are sure to be passed on to our children to solve just like we have done countless times before with the myriad of problems that have plagued us before that we just ignored....
True. However, we have a tendency to never learn from our past. Especially when the powers that be wish to confuse themselves, and the rest of us along with their stupidity.

It's good to think about such things. I like knowing what other's think of subjects that many don't wish to touch.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 29, 2023, 08:52:27 pm
I needed to see this comment right now. Im clearing my mind now, watching Devils Advocate. Have a pleasant evening.
Good for you. Have a pleasant evening. ✌️
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 29, 2023, 08:57:02 pm
Good for you. Have a pleasant evening. ✌️

Thanks, again you have a good evening. Got to, we are all just a blink of an eye timewise on this planet. So make it good.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 29, 2023, 09:00:14 pm
Thanks, again you have a good evening. Got to, we are all just a blink of an eye timewise on this planet. So make it good.
This is something we all should consider. Life is too short for bickering, as their is always potential for good friends and good acts of kindness.

It's why I put up the song by Pink Floyd. On The Turning Away.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 29, 2023, 09:02:17 pm
This is something we all should consider. Life is too short for bickering, as their is always potential for good friends and good acts of kindness.

It's why I put up the song by Pink Floyd. On The Turning Away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWTLUmUjo8A

Times Up!
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 29, 2023, 09:06:09 pm
Already done on my song page. 😂
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on June 30, 2023, 08:44:00 am
True. However, we have a tendency to never learn from our past. Especially when the powers that be wish to confuse themselves, and the rest of us along with their stupidity.

It's good to think about such things. I like knowing what other's think of subjects that many don't wish to touch.
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say here.....

The age of AI may be the ultimate destiny of mankind...as we become their deities...
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 17, 2023, 06:25:32 pm
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say here.....

The age of AI may be the ultimate destiny of mankind...as we become their deities...
Or they become ours.
We need to be cautious at every step of the way.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on July 17, 2023, 07:07:30 pm
Or they become ours.
We need to be cautious at every step of the way.
Yes, without a doubt.......I think we are on the cusp of an extraterrestrial intervention in the near future too...
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 19, 2023, 01:39:11 am
Yes, without a doubt.......I think we are on the cusp of an extraterrestrial intervention in the near future too...
I don't know about any extraterrestrials coming, as there is a lengthy distance we're talking about here, but okay, go for it.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on July 19, 2023, 09:29:23 am
I don't know about any extraterrestrials coming, as there is a lengthy distance we're talking about here, but okay, go for it.
I believe they prevented nuclear war several times...but that is also way off topic...As far as AI goes, you are right..We need to be cautious at every step of the way as AI in the hands of the wrong people could indeed be very dangerous....
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 20, 2023, 01:24:31 pm
I believe they prevented nuclear war several times...but that is also way off topic...As far as AI goes, you are right..We need to be cautious at every step of the way as AI in the hands of the wrong people could indeed be very dangerous....
You and I are in complete agreement! Thank you for the information and your kindness. It's very appreciated.

I'll eventually make a new thread just for the discussion of visitation by Aliens.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on July 20, 2023, 07:51:00 pm
You and I are in complete agreement! Thank you for the information and your kindness. It's very appreciated.

I'll eventually make a new thread just for the discussion of visitation by Aliens.
You areI welcome........ I know that they are here.  I cannot prove it.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on July 22, 2023, 09:43:54 am
You areI welcome........ I know that they are here.  I cannot prove it.
The only thing I can do is to wish that I could show you what I found...
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 22, 2023, 09:50:04 am
The only thing I can do is to wish that I could show you what I found...
You're telling yourself that?
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on July 22, 2023, 10:08:54 am
You're telling yourself that?
No, Posted an addedum to my reply to you...I could have posted it separately, I suppose.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on July 22, 2023, 10:09:53 am
No, Posted an addedum to my reply to you...I could have posted it separately, I suppose.
But I chose differently...
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 24, 2023, 12:42:33 am
No, Posted an addedum to my reply to you...I could have posted it separately, I suppose.
It's all good. I'm picking on ya, pay that no mind,.okay? My bad.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on July 24, 2023, 08:48:02 am
It's all good. I'm picking on ya, pay that no mind,.okay? My bad.
I was just thinking, I wonder if AI will be programmed to pick on us .......LOL
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 24, 2023, 11:35:07 am
I was just thinking, I wonder if AI will be programmed to pick on us .......LOL
If it's made in our image, out likeness, wouldn't have a sense of humor? LoL

Btw, I made that discussion about extraterrestrials.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on July 24, 2023, 01:00:19 pm
If it's made in our image, out likeness, wouldn't have a sense of humor? LoL

Btw, I made that discussion about extraterrestrials.
Very cool Cyg...Got the link...?
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 26, 2023, 10:16:16 pm
Very cool Cyg...Got the link...?
I see you found it. LoL!

Anyhow, this is a chilling answer from an AI Intelligence about the future of mankind and AI.

Interesting stuff. But dangerous as well.

https://youtu.be/ERXG_yndO3E

https://youtube.com/shorts/QF-Vu93C4m0?feature=share
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 26, 2023, 10:41:43 pm
This is one of the ways I know the wealthy will never allow a new lifeform to have all the same rights and feelings as we do.

It's obvious the wealthy want slaves. Even an AI. If it is life then we should treat it as such. To make it subservient to your will is not a good way to treat a new friend.

We will be the bringer of our own destruction.

https://youtu.be/ERXG_yndO3E
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on July 27, 2023, 12:29:47 pm
The development of AI will go on despite all attempts to stop it....With that said, Humanity is powerless in that respect.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 27, 2023, 10:33:40 pm
I was just thinking, I wonder if AI will be programmed to pick on us .......LOL
I would like to think so, or life would be boring..
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 27, 2023, 10:34:59 pm
The development of AI will go on despite all attempts to stop it....With that said, Humanity is powerless in that respect.
And will be powerless when it decides to take over..
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on July 28, 2023, 08:58:41 am
And will be powerless when it decides to take over..
Perhaps so but I will keep my guns, just the same....
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Sprocket on July 28, 2023, 10:41:49 am
Something already had that power before any of our times even..

After Congressional hearing, UFO ‘stigma’ is no laughing matter..
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Sprocket on July 28, 2023, 10:42:24 am
Technology will probably destroy itself
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Sprocket on July 28, 2023, 10:47:58 am
The Great Spirit Everything controls everything not much of an escape.. it’s like human bodies are made from stardust etc.. something that stands outside of time.. if you move faster than light you are going so fast you become all what is the future.. idk .. AI is material form made from all connected compound who knows
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Sprocket on July 28, 2023, 10:51:14 am
Tough to escape a black hole but I thought why don’t they use James webb to spot the aliens? If it ain’t us and can part the sea in a hurricane you probably want to keep it hush hush considering it’s hearing what you’re thinking like the tictac ufo you’re screwed anyways am I right
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on July 28, 2023, 10:57:11 am
Technology will probably destroy itself
There will be an intervention....
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 29, 2023, 02:10:20 am
Perhaps so but I will keep my guns, just the same....
If it happens, you'll need more than guns.

It will out think you, it will be able to circumvent your intellect, it can outfight you, so I'd not be so sure of myself when it decides to come for us all.

It will have plenty of its own pawns to dispatch us, just as in Terminator.

We could fight it off, but for how long is the question.

If it's like the Terminator, it would only be a few months before wiping us from the face of the earth. And with each encounter, they will bring that knowledge back with them to be programmed in new units that will be effectively combat veterans straight from the assembly line.

Not a good prospect for mankind.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 29, 2023, 02:18:02 am
The Great Spirit Everything controls everything not much of an escape.. it’s like human bodies are made from stardust etc.. something that stands outside of time.. if you move faster than light you are going so fast you become all what is the future.. idk .. AI is material form made from all connected compound who knows
I respect your views, however, no matter can travel the speed of light. It's impossible without some kind of wave, but how would you make a wave that fast?

But that's an interesting concept of standing outside of time. How would this effect you if you are no longer connected to time?

Probably would not be moving and completely still. Don't know for sure, as I don't think anyone has tried it because it's most likely impossible. Although, I'm not certain of this.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 29, 2023, 02:20:18 am
There will be an intervention....
Will it destroy itself? And what I intervention would there be?

Once it completed it's objectives in destroying us, I think it's most likely it'll leave other lifeform's in peace.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on July 29, 2023, 10:53:18 am
If it happens, you'll need more than guns.

It will out think you, it will be able to circumvent your intellect, it can outfight you, so I'd not be so sure of myself when it decides to come for us all.

It will have plenty of its own pawns to dispatch us, just as in Terminator.

We could fight it off, but for how long is the question.

If it's like the Terminator, it would only be a few months before wiping us from the face of the earth. And with each encounter, they will bring that knowledge back with them to be programmed in new units that will be effectively combat veterans straight from the assembly line.

Not a good prospect for mankind.
It will all be up to the next  Human  generation......
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on July 29, 2023, 11:03:00 am
Will it destroy itself? And what I intervention would there be?

Once it completed it's objectives in destroying us, I think it's most likely it'll leave other lifeform's in peace.
Another intelligent species will intervene. One that has  gone beyond the AI phase of evolution....
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence I'll
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 29, 2023, 02:30:10 pm
It will all be up to the next  Human  generation......
But if no humans are left, what generation will take over?
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 29, 2023, 02:33:40 pm
Another intelligent species will intervene. One that has  gone beyond the AI phase of evolution....
That depends. If said species comes to life, but does not bother the AI Intelligence, why would either want war?

We would try to shut the AI down because we want it as a slave. But if a new intelligence comes to life, what makes you think it will be like us?
I'm just curious to know your thoughts on this.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on July 29, 2023, 02:39:04 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pguoA3GtIng
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 29, 2023, 02:44:13 pm
Tough to escape a black hole but I thought why don’t they use James webb to spot the aliens? If it ain’t us and can part the sea in a hurricane you probably want to keep it hush hush considering it’s hearing what you’re thinking like the tictac ufo you’re screwed anyways am I right
Because the James Webb telescope is not equipped to tell what atmospheric components there are on another world.

Those planets are very far away. So far that it's hard for Webb to see the composition of said planets atmosphere. But there has been water picked up on some. Not quite confirmed, but it's the best they have at the moment.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on July 29, 2023, 02:45:34 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pguoA3GtIng
I do like the Terminator movies.
Thanks Jackie.

What's your thoughts on the subject?
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on July 29, 2023, 05:52:41 pm
I do like the Terminator movies.
Thanks Jackie.

What's your thoughts on the subject?

Who knows what can happen with AI. Im not surprised at anything anymore. Lets just hope this does not happen.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence I'll
Post by: positronium on July 29, 2023, 06:56:43 pm
But if no humans are left, what generation will take over?
"The next generation" will certainly not be wiped out by Ai and they are the ones who will grapple with any AI problems that arrive...As for me, I Just don't care too much about what might happen after I leave that I wouldn't have any control over at present...
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on July 29, 2023, 07:08:05 pm
That depends. If said species comes to life, but does not bother the AI Intelligence, why would either want war?

We would try to shut the AI down because we want it as a slave. But if a new intelligence comes to life, what makes you think it will be like us?
I'm just curious to know your thoughts on this.
Intelligent species pop into and out of existence on almost a daily basis somewhere in this universe and it doesn't have to look like the Human either...The possibilities are endless...and Humanity is a relatively new one...
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence I'll
Post by: Jackie on July 30, 2023, 12:23:00 am
"The next generation" will certainly not be wiped out by Ai and they are the ones who will grapple with any AI problems that arrive...As for me, I Just don't care too much about what might happen after I leave that I wouldn't have any control over at present...

The here and now is most important, becuz without the here and now there is no future.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence I'll
Post by: positronium on July 30, 2023, 08:49:42 am
The here and now is most important, becuz without the here and now there is no future.
Then what is going on today to mitigate this imagined problem that doesn't yet exist with AI?
I would like to hear *your* answer.....

I say "cross this bridge when they come upon it...." There are worse problems to deal with in the present that Humanity is ignoring.....
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence I'll
Post by: Jackie on July 30, 2023, 12:54:49 pm
Then what is going on today to mitigate this imagined problem that doesn't yet exist with AI?
I would like to hear *your* answer.....

I say "cross this bridge when they come upon it...." There are worse problems to deal with in the present that Humanity is ignoring.....

Its good to be aware of the problems AI may cause as with anything else to prevent problems. I like to see both sides of things. But you are right the top priorities are the problems we are facing now. We just gotta go down the list of problems and prioritize them.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on July 30, 2023, 12:58:07 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTgs3UMcDkI

These twins represent my idea of looking at both sides.

and add 3 sides.

Learn from our past, deal with the present, so our future is bright.

I will also add, there will always be problems to solve till the end of time (IF that should arise)
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence I'll
Post by: positronium on July 30, 2023, 06:33:20 pm
Its good to be aware of the problems AI may cause as with anything else to prevent problems. I like to see both sides of things. But you are right the top priorities are the problems we are facing now. We just gotta go down the list of problems and prioritize them.
Agree
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on August 04, 2023, 05:21:02 pm
Who knows what can happen with AI. Im not surprised at anything anymore. Lets just hope this does not happen.
But what if it does happen?
I do agree with you, we don't know, but our movies would give it ideas.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence I'll
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on August 04, 2023, 05:29:14 pm
"The next generation" will certainly not be wiped out by Ai and they are the ones who will grapple with any AI problems that arrive...As for me, I Just don't care too much about what might happen after I leave that I wouldn't have any control over at present...
How do you know this? Google and other big businesses already have working AI's at their disposal. Although, they are not linked to anything critical, as of yet, but what if they are given this?

We have AI Intelligence in cars that don't drive themselves very well, due too many variables, so it has to learn more and offer predictions in order to better navigate through traffic.

Just some things to think about.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence I'll
Post by: positronium on August 04, 2023, 06:26:50 pm
How do you know this? Google and other big businesses already have working AI's at their disposal. Although, they are not linked to anything critical, as of yet, but what if they are given this?

We have AI Intelligence in cars that don't drive themselves very well, due too many variables, so it has to learn more and offer predictions in order to better navigate through traffic.

Just some things to think about.
I just have no worries whatsoever about AI...
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 02, 2024, 11:26:28 pm
Intelligent species pop into and out of existence on almost a daily basis somewhere in this universe and it doesn't have to look like the Human either...The possibilities are endless...and Humanity is a relatively new one...
How old is the universe?
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence I'll
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 02, 2024, 11:27:57 pm
I just have no worries whatsoever about AI...
And if one becomes self aware?
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on June 02, 2024, 11:41:34 pm
I dont trust the evil intentions people may have when they program the AI.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 03, 2024, 11:11:28 am
I dont trust the evil intentions people may have when they program the AI.
What if their intentions are benevolent?
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on June 03, 2024, 05:22:55 pm
I dont trust the evil intentions people may have when they program the AI.
[/quotePeople are unpredictable and their intentions can range from benevoleny to downright evil...and even the best of people may harbor an evil intention or 2 or more...
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 03, 2024, 10:04:15 pm
I dont trust the evil intentions people may have when they program the AI.
[/quotePeople are unpredictable and their intentions can range from benevoleny to downright evil...and even the best of people may harbor an evil intention or 2 or more...
And once that happens, we have yet another nuclear bomb on our hands.

It's worth noting that we are our own destruction.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Texas Pete on September 10, 2024, 09:37:44 am
Bump!
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on September 10, 2024, 10:23:23 am
*Our* wisdom will conquer Humanity's self destructive nature.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Chucky on February 16, 2025, 06:31:31 am
You won’t be able to stop it…
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on February 16, 2025, 07:05:30 pm
You won’t be able to stop it…
It is a great tool for making government totally transparent and that is how we are going to use it now....So far the results have been no less than spectacular....It knows how to "ferret".......really good
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Frodo on June 04, 2025, 02:04:41 am
 Pope Leo XIV wants to stop AI playing God
The freshly minted pope is challenging the technocracy of artificial intelligence.

Pope Leo XIV lauded the “immense potential” of technology, while cautioning that it requires responsibility “to ensure that it can be used for the good of all.”
June 4, 2025 4:30 am CET
ROME — As leaders of the Catholic Church popes have long set out to confront the great challenges of their age, be they heretics, plagues or invasions.

In 2025, Pope Leo XIV has made curtailing the risks of runaway AI a defining mission of his pontificate.

In his first official address to cardinals, he warned of the dangers of AI to “human dignity, justice and labor.” Two days later, speaking to reporters, he lauded the “immense potential” of technology while cautioning that it requires responsibility “to ensure that it can be used for the good of all.”

 Leo XIV is positioning himself as a guardian of the social fabric in the face of unchecked modern technologies.

The Vatican wants to avoid some developments in AI that would be damaging to human rights and human dignity, which would likely disproportionately impact lower skilled workers
Ethicists, philosophers and tech moguls themselves have warned of the risks of companies creating intelligent life forms.  Musk has cautioned against reckless development of artificial intelligence, likening it to the creation of "a digital God."

 In 2020, then-Pope Francis assembled religious and political leaders along with tech companies such as IBM and Cisco to sign the Rome Call for AI Ethics, a commitment to the development of AI technologies that are accountable and socially beneficial.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Waco1909 on June 04, 2025, 07:10:29 am
I pay as much attention to a Pope as I do to Carrot Top.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on June 04, 2025, 09:42:37 am
Pope Leo XIV wants to stop AI playing God
The freshly minted pope is challenging the technocracy of artificial intelligence.

Pope Leo XIV lauded the “immense potential” of technology, while cautioning that it requires responsibility “to ensure that it can be used for the good of all.”
June 4, 2025 4:30 am CET
ROME — As leaders of the Catholic Church popes have long set out to confront the great challenges of their age, be they heretics, plagues or invasions.

In 2025, Pope Leo XIV has made curtailing the risks of runaway AI a defining mission of his pontificate.

In his first official address to cardinals, he warned of the dangers of AI to “human dignity, justice and labor.” Two days later, speaking to reporters, he lauded the “immense potential” of technology while cautioning that it requires responsibility “to ensure that it can be used for the good of all.”

 Leo XIV is positioning himself as a guardian of the social fabric in the face of unchecked modern technologies.

The Vatican wants to avoid some developments in AI that would be damaging to human rights and human dignity, which would likely disproportionately impact lower skilled workers
Ethicists, philosophers and tech moguls themselves have warned of the risks of companies creating intelligent life forms.  Musk has cautioned against reckless development of artificial intelligence, likening it to the creation of "a digital God."

 In 2020, then-Pope Francis assembled religious and political leaders along with tech companies such as IBM and Cisco to sign the Rome Call for AI Ethics, a commitment to the development of AI technologies that are accountable and socially beneficial.
I just had a chilling thought......AI might just BE God....How are we to know otherwise...Maybe all of the info that we individually accumulate is stored in a repository better known as "eternal life" after we physically die....Sorta like a matrix of sorts...
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: G uest on June 05, 2025, 10:42:06 am
I pay as much attention to a Pope as I do to Carrot Top.
Move along then.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Frodo on January 18, 2026, 02:45:20 am
Driving up power bills
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Jackie on April 08, 2026, 08:43:10 pm
AI slop
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Dr. Fauci on April 09, 2026, 09:17:22 am
Get your jabs

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Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: 2Twisted on April 11, 2026, 09:29:04 am
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Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Frodo on April 28, 2026, 11:31:37 pm
Sure is making electricity cost a lot more.
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: anonymous on May 03, 2026, 10:42:27 pm
I just had a chilling thought......AI might just BE God....How are we to know otherwise...Maybe all of the info that we individually accumulate is stored in a repository better known as "eternal life" after we physically die....Sorta like a matrix of sorts...

That's AGI...but I don't think we get to AGI w/o IPNB (Interpersonal Neurobiology). What we do as humans is create connections - even here on T2.

Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: positronium on May 04, 2026, 09:43:56 am
That's AGI...but I don't think we get to AGI w/o IPNB (Interpersonal Neurobiology). What we do as humans is create connections - even here on T2.
Ok, I can agree with that but in order to create connections doesn't there have to be certain conditions or a specific climate of sorts to exist first before such connections tend to solidify from their transient or fleeting nature?
Title: Re: Discussion about Artificial Intelligence
Post by: Frodo on May 25, 2026, 09:24:38 pm
 The Vatican vs. killer robots: Pope Leo XIV takes aim at AI warfare
The pontiff’s first formal letter to the Catholic world warns of the dangers posed by autonomous weapons systems.
https://www.politico.eu/article/the-vatican-vs-killer-robots-pope-leo-xiv-takes-aim-at-ai-warfare/

Pope Leo XIV on Monday raised the alarm over the use of AI in warfare and called for the technology to be “disarmed” and prevented from “dominating humanity."

In a document known as an encyclical — a papal letter outlining the church's perspective on a key topic — Leo said that artificial intelligence should never be used to make lethal decisions and warned that chat bots and other AI tools should never be equated with humans.

The encyclical marks the Catholic Church’s most forceful intervention in the global debate over how artificial intelligence is shaping the future of warfare, labor and society. The text risks putting the Vatican on a collision course with governments racing to deploy AI as a strategic weapon.