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« Reply #37170 on: June 21, 2026, 11:07:11 pm »
Quote from: Garthok on June 21, 2026, 10:57:18 pm
Seems legit.

I am surprised they aren't blaming the filthy Jews.  😂
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« Reply #37171 on: June 21, 2026, 11:08:00 pm »
The Germans hate Trump even more, lol.
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« Reply #37172 on: June 21, 2026, 11:13:00 pm »
Quote from: NC Yankee on June 21, 2026, 11:07:11 pm
I am surprised they aren't blaming the filthy Jews.  😂
More than a few people are blaming it on the Jews/Israel.
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« Reply #37173 on: June 21, 2026, 11:19:25 pm »
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« Reply #37174 on: June 21, 2026, 11:20:40 pm »
Quote from: Garthok on June 21, 2026, 11:13:00 pm
More than a few people are blaming it on the Jews/Israel.

I have no idea why.  Are the terrorist groups in Lebanon gonna suddenly disband and stop being terrorists if Israel doesn't bomb the eff out of them and plays nice?  What are they gonna do if they disband?  What opportunities even exist for them?  Are they gonna become Rhodes scholars or something?

Like my comments about Russia, it's another history book lesson.  In the Middle East, unless they have oil and in many cases even if they do, they run their countries like sh1t,  treat their own people like sh1t, and hate the Jews. 

None of the terrorism and obsession with the state of Israel has helped the people over there too. 

Also, given how Jews had been mistreated both in the Middle East and in Europe ... for centuries... just for global peace and decency, the creation of Israel was a good thing.  Jerusalem was supposed to be an open city too ... but again wars and terrorism changed the whole landscape.
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« Reply #37175 on: June 21, 2026, 11:21:04 pm »
Quote from: Garthok on June 21, 2026, 11:13:00 pm
More than a few people are blaming it on the Jews/Israel.

Israel is not all Jews.  You can fuss about what that country does and not be antisemitic. 
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« Reply #37176 on: June 21, 2026, 11:23:09 pm »
Quote from: NC Yankee on June 21, 2026, 11:20:40 pm
I have no idea why.  Are the terrorist groups in Lebanon gonna suddenly disband and stop being terrorists if Israel doesn't bomb the eff out of them and plays nice?  What are they gonna do if they disband?  What opportunities even exist for them?  Are they gonna become Rhodes scholars or something?

Like my comments about Russia, it's another history book lesson.  In the Middle East, unless they have oil and in many cases even if they do, they run their countries like sh1t,  treat their own people like sh1t, and hate the Jews. 

None of the terrorism and obsession with the state of Israel has helped the people over there too. 

Also, given how Jews had been mistreated both in the Middle East and in Europe ... for centuries... just for global peace and decency, the creation of Israel was a good thing.  Jerusalem was supposed to be an open city too ... but again wars and terrorism changed the whole landscape.

Or, we ALL can just hold israel to international standards and apply accountability.   
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« Reply #37178 on: June 21, 2026, 11:27:29 pm »
Quote from: Mark J on June 21, 2026, 11:23:09 pm
Or, we ALL can just hold israel to international standards and apply accountability.

Who holds the terrorists and Muslim nations that support them accountable?  It would be like a bunch of people trying to kill me all the time and the police not doing sh1t about it, but I get busted when I stalk them and kill them before they can get me.  In a perfect world, of course it shouldn't come to me stalking and killing people, but wtf you supposed to do when the UN and global powers don't do sh1t about terrorism for decades?
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« Reply #37179 on: June 21, 2026, 11:35:32 pm »
Don't watch a lot of golf but saw a few bits and pieces yesterday and today.

Glad Clark able to hold on and win.
They were talking like he's lucky, he's not that good
Had a 6 stroke lead going into final day and won by 1.
He ended -4 and Bush -3
Ahead of him -7 to -1 yesterday
Kim -2
Nobody else was below par
Clark has won 2 times in last 4 years.
That's not bad.

U.S. Open: Wyndham Clark overcomes the haters to win at Shinnecock
U.S. Open: Wyndham Clark overcomes the haters to win at Shinnecock
Wyndham Clark is in full control of the U.S. Open.
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« Reply #37180 on: June 21, 2026, 11:49:22 pm »
Quote from: Mark J on June 21, 2026, 10:39:48 pm
"...Iran walks out of peace talks after Trump outburst..."

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Worse than said. Besides Trump saying take Straits and charge toll he said he'd take 20% of oil.

Switzerland summit ends abruptly after Iran delegation walks out on U.S.
Switzerland summit ends abruptly after Iran delegation walks out on U.S. | FOX 13 Tampa Bay
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US-Iran peace talks in Switzerland stalled after 80 minutes when the Iranian delegation walked out of the meeting.

Iran claims it closed the Strait of Hormuz. U.S. Central Command disputes this, but the threat has significantly slowed commercial shipping.

It is unclear if or when formal negotiations will resume, though back-channel discussions are reportedly underway.

TAMPA, Fla - A high-stakes peace summit in Switzerland collapsed on its first day after the Iranian delegation walked out following a wave of conflicting messages and blunt military warnings from U.S. leadership.

What we know:
The first day of peace negotiations between the U.S. and Iran ended with tension, threats, and a walkout. According to Iranian state media, the delegations did not reach the topic of nuclear negotiations before Iran's representatives left the table.

Commercial shipping vessels navigate international waters near a key trade route. Iran's announcement that it was closing the critical Strait of Hormuz shipping lane has caused immediate hesitation among oil tanker captains and insurance companies.

What they're saying:
The U.S. administration delivered conflicting messages regarding the summit.

President Donald Trump took a different approach. According to Fox News reporter Trey Yingst, Trump told Iranian officials overnight: "You close it and you won't have a country... you won’t even make it back to your effing country."

The Iranian delegation responded by calling Trump’s threats a "serious violation of the agreement" and warned that their armed forces are prepared to act.
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« Reply #37181 on: June 21, 2026, 11:50:15 pm »
Big picture view:
Beyond the immediate walkout, several sticking points threaten to derail the peace process:

Uranium Enrichment: Iran’s President stated his nation will never surrender the right to enrich uranium, insisting the U.S. will be forced to accept it. Trump has repeatedly stated Iran cannot be allowed to develop nuclear weapons.

The Conflict in Lebanon: Iran is demanding Israel halt attacks on its proxies in Lebanon before U.S. talks resume. Israel, which is not participating in the Switzerland summit, says it will keep forces in Lebanon as long as necessary to protect Israelis.
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« Reply #37182 on: June 21, 2026, 11:51:58 pm »
Quote from: Frodo on June 21, 2026, 11:35:32 pm
Don't watch a lot of golf but saw a few bits and pieces yesterday and today.

Glad Clark able to hold on and win.
They were talking like he's lucky, he's not that good
Had a 6 stroke lead going into final day and won by 1.
He ended -4 and Bush -3
Ahead of him -7 to -1 yesterday
Kim -2
Nobody else was below par
Clark has won 2 times in last 4 years.
That's not bad.

U.S. Open: Wyndham Clark overcomes the haters to win at Shinnecock
https://sports.yahoo.com/golf/live/2026-us-open-final-round-leaderboard-live-updates-wyndham-clark-leads-by-6-entering-sunday-at-shinnecock-hills-114500547.html
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« Reply #37183 on: June 21, 2026, 11:52:28 pm »
Control of the Strait: If negotiations fail, Trump told Fox News the U.S. may take over the Strait of Hormuz by force, collect tolls, and seize 20% of the oil that passes through it to fund military operations.

Commercial shipping vessels navigate international waters near a key trade route. Iran's announcement that it was closing the critical Strait of Hormuz shipping lane has caused immediate hesitation among oil tanker captains and insurance companies. US says traffic is moving through.

Senator Lindsey Graham, after a four-and-a-half-hour meeting with the President, publicly predicted the talks will ultimately fail, triggering the U.S. takeover of the strait. For now, diplomats are reportedly utilizing back-channel discussions to coax both sides back to the negotiating table.
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« Reply #37184 on: June 21, 2026, 11:55:52 pm »
I didn't see any of Egypt-New Zeland Garthok

I saw where Spain beating Saudi Arabia pretty bad.
That ended 4-0

See Belgium tied Iran after a Belgian player got red card
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« Reply #37185 on: June 21, 2026, 11:57:25 pm »
Quote from: Frodo on June 21, 2026, 11:52:28 pm
Control of the Strait: If negotiations fail, Trump told Fox News the U.S. may take over the Strait of Hormuz by force, collect tolls, and seize 20% of the oil that passes through it to fund military operations.

Commercial shipping vessels navigate international waters near a key trade route. Iran's announcement that it was closing the critical Strait of Hormuz shipping lane has caused immediate hesitation among oil tanker captains and insurance companies. US says traffic is moving through.

Senator Lindsey Graham, after a four-and-a-half-hour meeting with the President, publicly predicted the talks will ultimately fail, triggering the U.S. takeover of the strait. For now, diplomats are reportedly utilizing back-channel discussions to coax both sides back to the negotiating table.
If they actually had "the bomb" this wouldn't be happening.
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« Reply #37186 on: June 21, 2026, 11:58:47 pm »
Quote from: Frodo on June 21, 2026, 11:55:52 pm
I didn't see any of Egypt-New Zeland Garthok

I saw where Spain beating Saudi Arabia pretty bad.
That ended 4-0

See Belgium tied Iran after a Belgian player got red card
I'm low key pulling for Iran.
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« Reply #37187 on: June 22, 2026, 12:10:33 am »
Quote from: Garthok on June 21, 2026, 11:58:47 pm
I'm low key pulling for Iran.

They have already won.
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