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deflection...... It is not up to me to provide for your health care...

It's not up to me to fund your social security.  With birth rates declining so bad, what the eff do you think future generations are gonna get for social security after you get way more than they will ever get despite paying the same percent of their income as you did towards social security?

I thought you said you had a great solution.  If it's so great, why don't you share it with us?

The reality is we have many countries who have solved this situation better than us, that we can look to.  We already have models we can evaluate and pick and choose what works and doesn't from all the countries that do this better than us, and come up with a better system for all Americans, and not focus on what just works best for you.

For example, "Germany consistently achieves significantly better healthcare outcomes than the United States, while spending substantially less per person.

Key areas where Germany outperforms the U.S. include:

Life Expectancy: Germany averages about 81 years of life expectancy, whereas the U.S. averages around 77 years .

Preventable Deaths: Germany has fewer deaths that could have been avoided with proper access to care (approx. 83 per 100,000 people compared to the U.S. rate of 112 per 100,000).

Infant & Maternal Mortality: Germany boasts a lower infant mortality rate (approx. 3.1 deaths per 1,000 live births) compared to the U.S. (approx. 5.4 per 1,000) . Additionally, the U.S. maternal mortality rate is more than twice as high as Germany's.

Coverage and Access: Germany’s universal coverage mandates health insurance for all citizens, completely eliminating the risk of medical bankruptcy. By contrast, millions of Americans remain uninsured or underinsured.

Cost Efficiency: While the U.S. spends over $14,000 per capita on healthcare (leading the world), Germany spends roughly $9,300 per capita while covering 100% of its population."

There are also many other countries who do it better and more cost effective than us, that we can look to.  Japan and South Korea do it better than us.  Nordic countries do too an so do many other European countries.  It's all there for us to study and pick and choose what works best and doesn't.  Instead people like you have your blinders on and just say "I am not paying to provide other people healthcare," even if it would save everyone collectively a lot of money and our nation a lot of money that could be better spent elsewhere.  Eff even if the money saved is spent in a vacation, that's better than spending it in an inefficient system that cost way more and provides worse results.