Poll

Is it possible for a person to live a moral life without religion?

You may only select up to 3 options.

Author Topic: Poll=Is it possible for a person to live a moral life without religion?  (Read 1181 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

anonymous

  • Guest
Vote and share your thoughts.

Offline cowface

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6197
  • Karma +474/-6
  • Location: Chillicothe, Ohio USA
I guess one must evaluate what is each individual's measure of morality? Religion is not a good measure. Religion is overrated. Faith and belief on the other hand guides true morality from the heart. Religious people can possibly discipline themselves to live an outward moral life all the while filled with evil at heart. Others may also secretly do the same just for show on the outward. Both can also possibly live a moral life without any spiritual influence and also be empty of any value in doing so because they lack the Spirit ...and all the while know not God. True morality comes from knowing God and living in Him.
Agree Agree x 2 View List

Offline Window Lickers Union

  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 241
  • Karma +12/-0
Vote and share your thoughts.

Good topic.





 


I guess one must evaluate what is each individual's measure of morality? Religion is not a good measure. Religion is overrated. Faith and belief on the other hand guides true morality from the heart. Religious people can possibly discipline themselves to live an outward moral life all the while filled with evil at heart. Others may also secretly do the same just for show on the outward. Both can also possibly live a moral life without any spiritual influence and also be empty of any value in doing so because they lack the Spirit ...and all the while know not God. True morality comes from knowing God and living in Him.





Since this question is almost a purely philosophical one, you should of just stopped at the first sentence, Cowface.    Nailed it- End Thread. 


I can only agree with the first sentence as the others seemingly run off onto a touch of spiritualism.


"Faith and Belief"?  What "God"? Whose "the spirit" are you talking about since "Religion is not a good measure/overrated"?  Defining what IS* "religion", where are you getting these things if not religion?   Self?



BEHOLD !!!

I am Pen!s envy, destroyer of women's happiness.

Offline joanna50

  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 253
  • Karma +22/-2
  • Get busy living or get busy dying
Good topic.





 






Since this question is almost a purely philosophical one, you should of just stopped at the first sentence, Cowface.    Nailed it- End Thread. 


I can only agree with the first sentence as the others seemingly run off onto a touch of spiritualism.


"Faith and Belief"?  What "God"? Whose "the spirit" are you talking about since "Religion is not a good measure/overrated"?  Defining what IS* "religion", where are you getting these things if not religion?   Self?
I'd say he was pretty spot on, big difference between spiritualism and religion, I think religion is man made therefore its bound to be flawed, spiritualism on the other hand is one's own sense of morality
Be the change you want to see in the world

Offline Cygnus-X1

  • 25 Grand Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26428
  • Karma +425/-14
I guess one must evaluate what is each individual's measure of morality? Religion is not a good measure. Religion is overrated. Faith and belief on the other hand guides true morality from the heart. Religious people can possibly discipline themselves to live an outward moral life all the while filled with evil at heart. Others may also secretly do the same just for show on the outward. Both can also possibly live a moral life without any spiritual influence and also be empty of any value in doing so because they lack the Spirit ...and all the while know not God. True morality comes from knowing God and living in Him.
No religious choice has ever given true morality. Morals comes from knowledge that’s been handed down through generations and is learned from experience. For example: the biblical god commands that “Thou Shall Not Kill” or “you will not kill”. Now I’ll remind you that there is no written words that gives you, the reader, nor your pastor anything to justify the cowardice acts of GENOCIDE and INFANTICIDE, yet we see these acts commanded by god, or make that the men who do those cowardice acts to then blame it on their imaginary friend in the sky.

Men will do anything to justify their own actions, be it by a god, gods, or even gods of the underworld. But we all know deep down where the orders comes from and those orders are given by men that wants more - riches that will never fill the empty holes in their heads. You can give them the world and they will still want another along with the one they have - don’t believe me? Just look at how we are still wanting wealth from the Middle East, Africa and elsewhere where people cannot defend themselves.

People today do not even realize that our bank notes are worthless paper and how easy it really is to disrupt the banking industry and government full of wealthy pigs that needs to be taught a lesson on giving thanks to the people that makes their wealth all possible. So do not fear them. They are not as powerful as they would like you to believe; for it is we the people that holds all power in any government, or kingdom.

End rant

Offline Cygnus-X1

  • 25 Grand Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26428
  • Karma +425/-14
I guess one must evaluate what is each individual's measure of morality? Religion is not a good measure. Religion is overrated. Faith and belief on the other hand guides true morality from the heart. Religious people can possibly discipline themselves to live an outward moral life all the while filled with evil at heart. Others may also secretly do the same just for show on the outward. Both can also possibly live a moral life without any spiritual influence and also be empty of any value in doing so because they lack the Spirit ...and all the while know not God. True morality comes from knowing God and living in Him.
Religion is indeed overrated and gives nothing to the people.
Yes, psychopaths and sociopaths do this all the time. They care about nothing else but what they want, feel, or need. And those needs will come before anyone else’s. They have no wisdom, no remorse, but what they have for you is what the Catholic Church still has. Crocodile tears. Some call that tough love, but it is called torment for anyone that disagrees with the establishment. That’s a fact that most do not wish to face, well, not until they have to.
But then it’s too late.

And I beg to differ on the assumption that I value you, people, animals, or any and all life. Be a tree, insect, rodent, fish, even bacteria. As it all has a purpose that’s linked to our biosphere. The Earth.

I live a moral life and have no spiritual connections with anything else but our biosphere and universe that has made even the Earth beneath our feet.

Did you know that some of the best parts of morality actually came from atheists? And did you know that you are actually born an atheist? Yes.

And you would have no knowledge of the biblical gods, or any gods, whatsoever, not without it being taught to you.
We are born without gods and will return to earth the same.

Offline joanna50

  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 253
  • Karma +22/-2
  • Get busy living or get busy dying
Religion is indeed overrated and gives nothing to the people.
Yes, psychopaths and sociopaths do this all the time. They care about nothing else but what they want, feel, or need. And those needs will come before anyone else’s. They have no wisdom, no remorse, but what they have for you is what the Catholic Church still has. Crocodile tears. Some call that tough love, but it is called torment for anyone that disagrees with the establishment. That’s a fact that most do not wish to face, well, not until they have to.
But then it’s too late.

And I beg to differ on the assumption that I value you, people, animals, or any and all life. Be a tree, insect, rodent, fish, even bacteria. As it all has a purpose that’s linked to our biosphere. The Earth.

I live a moral life and have no spiritual connections with anything else but our biosphere and universe that has made even the Earth beneath our feet.

Did you know that some of the best parts of morality actually came from atheists? And did you know that you are actually born an atheist? Yes.

And you would have no knowledge of the biblical gods, or any gods, whatsoever, not without it being taught to you.
We are born without gods and will return to earth the same.
Very logical, I agree
Be the change you want to see in the world

Offline Cygnus-X1

  • 25 Grand Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26428
  • Karma +425/-14
Very logical, I agree
Thank you 🙏
And peace ☮️ to you

Offline Lady luck

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 22628
  • Karma +0/-2
I think you can but I also think it is how one is raised.

Offline Cygnus-X1

  • 25 Grand Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26428
  • Karma +425/-14
I think you can but I also think it is how one is raised.
Yes. We are all born atheists and no one would know about any gods whatsoever without being taught about them and those people are usually the one’s playing the role of gods.

Offline cowface

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6197
  • Karma +474/-6
  • Location: Chillicothe, Ohio USA
I think you can but I also think it is how one is raised.
Hi Cyg! You were raised in church... So I trust you know.

Offline Cygnus-X1

  • 25 Grand Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26428
  • Karma +425/-14
Hi Cyg! You were raised in church... So I trust you know.
Yes, my friend.

I do wonder how you and the wife are nowadays.

Offline Cygnus-X1

  • 25 Grand Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26428
  • Karma +425/-14
Sure it is possible to live a moral life without religion........I believe that many do.....Furthermore,... Anyone who chooses to believe in a Universal Creator is standing on ground as solid as a scientist who denies Creative Purpose as First Cause. Because of the laws these same scientists have discovered, there is absolutely no way to tell what made it happen. Whatever you choose is an act of pure faith
I would love to read your thoughts on this and I’m wondering if you’ll expand on this. Thanks 🙏

Offline Cygnus-X1

  • 25 Grand Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26428
  • Karma +425/-14
I suppose that I could in time.
Please feel free to do so. I’d love to hear your thoughts on the subject.

Offline Cygnus-X1

  • 25 Grand Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26428
  • Karma +425/-14
To know right and wrong and holding or manifesting high principles for proper conduct without having belief in and worship of a deity?
Would you want to face the consequences for your actions, or do you give this any thought before stealing, lying, cheating, or other high crimes and misdemeanors?

Offline Cygnus-X1

  • 25 Grand Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26428
  • Karma +425/-14
I am not sure about actions that you refer to as "your actions" in the above. What might those actions be?
I think I named them, so stop being a troll please? Thanks 🙏

Offline Cygnus-X1

  • 25 Grand Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26428
  • Karma +425/-14
stealing, lying, cheating, or other high crimes and misdemeanors are not my "actions"
So how did you know not to do these things?
And I beg to differ cause you have been lying on here. Thank you for that 🙏

Offline Cygnus-X1

  • 25 Grand Member
  • *
  • Posts: 26428
  • Karma +425/-14
The same way you did.
Lie? Right. Keep dreaming.
And what did I lie about, hmm?