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« Reply #72 on: February 18, 2020, 10:30:30 am »
I think she makes some great points however.  If I lived where I could drive east across an 800 foot bridge, I would go for dual citizenship. I also believe that sooner or later Canada and the US will eventually merge.....Possibly along with Greenland

Maybe, but I don't see that in my lifetime. 

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« Reply #73 on: February 18, 2020, 11:56:34 am »
My father-in-law went bankrupt from medical cost and he HAD insurance and he was himself a surgeon.  He ended up with diabetes and Parkinson's and it drained every nickel he had..... and it was a lot.  Canada's health care system is superior to ours. So is France's. Almost all developed nation's have better service than ours.

My colleague has Parkinson's ... He isn't being drained.  I don't think it costs him much at all.  Just for meds, which probably isn't any more than I pay for meds for my son with autism. Plenty of people have diabetes and it doesn't drain them.

If he was a surgeon he should have had short term and Long term disability insurance.  Long term can provide you with 70% of your income until you are 65.  Also being a surgeon and being able to declare bankruptcy is wonderful cause you can get rid of all your debt and then keep all your rather substantial income after that.  All your debt is wiped and if you are smart and have LTD you are making 70% of a surgeons salary on LTD ... shyte could certainly be much worse.

So, I am not really buying i need Medicaid for all cause of your personal experience.  Under Bernie's Medicaid for all (it won't be anything like Medicare for all) you won't have a nice urgent care to go to.  Every hospital will be like county hospitals in Chicago ... you also won't have a choice if they ban private insurance like Canada does.

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« Reply #74 on: February 18, 2020, 11:59:06 am »
Your ethos sucks.  I know you probably haven't thought of this ... cause it again would require more than a knee jerk thought, but who do you suppose throws out that 60 percent number?  People like Bernie Sanders.  Why does he do this .. cause like all liberals, he wants to frighten people into giving liberals more of their money and more power. 

But let's stop and use our brains here for a moment.  What usually also happens when people have serious medical problems that produce serious medical bills.  C'mon use that brain of yours and think.

What did you come up with?  Did it occur to you that when folks have such health problems they very frequently can't work and that has a lot to do with bankruptcies too and that very likely is the cause of said bankruptcies.  Maybe they can't ever go back to work.  National healthcare isn't gonna fix that.  It's also gonna do this:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/while-americans-pine-for-medicare-for-all-canadians-look-for-us-style-private-insurance

"Last year, Canadians faced a median wait of nearly 21 weeks to receive specialist treatment after getting referred by a general practitioner. Certain procedures come with longer waits. End-to-end, patients waited a median of 39 weeks for orthopedic surgery in 2019."

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Why would anyone with good insurance want crap care like that.  Canada is great if you have the sniffles, but if you have something serious, you'd much rather be an American with insurance.  Heck, in Canada you might not have to declare bankruptcy due to medical issues, cause you might be dead before you even can see a specialist!
I have friends who live in Canada and they say their health insurance sucks. She has had several medical emergencies come up and can't even get in tonsee a specialist without a long wait. He served in the Canadian military and has issues and they won't even treat him.

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« Reply #75 on: February 18, 2020, 11:59:52 am »
My colleague has Parkinson's ... He isn't being drained.  I don't think it costs him much at all.  Just for meds, which probably isn't any more than I pay for meds for my son with autism. Plenty of people have diabetes and it doesn't drain them.

If he was a surgeon he should have had short term and Long term disability insurance.  Long term can provide you with 70% of your income until you are 65.  Also being a surgeon and being able to declare bankruptcy is wonderful cause you can get rid of all your debt and then keep all your rather substantial income after that.  All your debt is wiped and if you are smart and have LTD you are making 70% of a surgeons salary on LTD ... shyte could certainly be much worse.

So, I am not really buying i need Medicaid for all cause of your personal experience.  Under Bernie's Medicaid for all (it won't be anything like Medicare for all) you won't have a nice urgent care to go to.  Every hospital will be like county hospitals in Chicago ... you also won't have a choice if they ban private insurance like Canada does.
Yep, my cousin has Parkinson's and he isn't being drained either.

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« Reply #76 on: February 18, 2020, 12:02:56 pm »
I have friends who live in Canada and they say their health insurance sucks. She has had several medical emergencies come up and can't even get in tonsee a specialist without a long wait. He served in the Canadian military and has issues and they won't even treat him.

It's getting worse over time too and that is despite healthcare costs consuming more and more of the entire budget.  So even unsustainable spending isn't maintaining quality of care.

People forget that the post war era was a boom time for the west economically ... it's much easy to finance these programs when your economy is growing like gangbusters.  That level of growth you aren't seeing anymore and in fact growth is anemic in many countries.  Pretty much every country with socialized medicine is facing a crunch and their taxes are already so high they can't tax their way out of it.  That leaves only one option ... decline in quality of care.
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« Reply #77 on: February 18, 2020, 12:10:55 pm »
Reading the comments here reminds  me that it is  amazing how gullible the unintelligent are. Morons believe any line of bullshit that is being peddled to them. I'm guessing not one of you is self employed. That clearly take the stones  none of you possess.

Why would I want to be self employed?  I get 35 days vacation.  I have a 401k match and a pension.  Work falls into my lap ... so I have job security.  I just have to show up or work from home and get my work done and I send a lot of that out and have other lawyers do it ... sometimes them doing all the work and just coming to me for approval ... sometimes me revising their work ... sometimes me giving them instructions of how I want them to do the work.

I never have to worry about finding clients or work to do.  I get to work with technology your pea brain wouldn't even understand to boot.  The kind of shyte that is gonna change the world as we know it.

Private practice blows in comparisons. Always looking for more work and even when you have enough you have to worry that it might dry up ... especially if you are a litigator.  I get to do so much more too ... from litigation to licenses to development agreements to FTOs to working on development teams and even inventing things myself that have been filed as patents.

I have the golden ticket and I'm very good at what I do too. So everyone wins!

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« Reply #78 on: February 18, 2020, 12:18:08 pm »
Guess what happens if my work loaf slows down ... I keep myself busy and give less work to the schmoes like Faith who work for themselves but rely on me to give them my work yo keep them busy.  So I have the work and I have the security and my job is way more interesting.  A firm is a rat race too and athlete can be a lot of drama.  Partners don't always get along ... associates jockeying to make partner.  I don't deal with any of that.  I just always act in the business's best interest and always look out for the company and protect it and advance its interests.  That's all that matters to me.

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« Reply #79 on: February 18, 2020, 12:20:45 pm »
I'm guessing none of you have A) ever been to Canada... or B) actually ever talked to a person from Canada.
I have been to Canada and knew an older lady from there, she was afraid to visit her son in the US
because she was afraid she would get sick and have to depend on our health care. She really liked her
health care.
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« Reply #80 on: February 18, 2020, 12:26:02 pm »
I've been self employed since 1992 but still work at a company so I could pay taxes and have health insurance.

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« Reply #81 on: February 18, 2020, 12:41:48 pm »
Hi Texas Pete! I hope you are well!

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« Reply #82 on: February 18, 2020, 12:43:12 pm »
Actually, Obama care was the one and only thing that sticks out in my mind as being the one and only tangible thing the Federal Government ever did that impacted my life directly in a positive way.   Not that I was a fan of Obama. I really wasn't paying attention.  I know his wife makes me sick.
It was a start that was meant to be improved upon but Republicans have sought to do away with it instead.

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« Reply #83 on: February 18, 2020, 12:57:22 pm »
I'm guessing none of you have A) ever been to Canada... or B) actually ever talked to a person from Canada.
I have never been to Canada but have talked with plenty of my friends who actually live there and they say the health insurance sucks.

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« Reply #84 on: February 18, 2020, 01:01:52 pm »
Yes. Of course. I'm sure there are plenty of Canadians in Kentucky. Why wouldn't there be?
My friends live in Canada not here in Kentucky or is that hard for you to understand that I actually have friends that live all over the U.S., Canada and Europe. Duh.  Your stupidity is astounding, did I say Canadian's who live in Kentucky,  no ignorant one, I said that I have friends who live in Canada. Your reading comprenshion skills suck.

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« Reply #85 on: February 18, 2020, 01:02:50 pm »
Yes. Of course. I'm sure there are plenty of Canadians in Kentucky. Why wouldn't there be?
We have lots of Mexicans here in Kentucky but Canadians I don't know. I lived in Washington state and visited Vancouver Island. I had friends in Victoria and stayed with them.

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« Reply #86 on: February 18, 2020, 01:04:13 pm »
We have lots of Mexicans here in Kentucky but Canadians I don't know. I lived in Washington state and visited Vancouver Island. I had friends in Victoria and stayed with them.
It has a hard time understanding that people can have friends all the world. Heck, Paganbirdkeeper lives in Europe and I am friends with her and several others who live in Europe and all over.

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« Reply #87 on: February 18, 2020, 01:05:43 pm »
I think the plague has hit this thread ;D We knew it was coming, hehe.
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« Reply #88 on: February 18, 2020, 01:17:19 pm »
Hmmm. You seem very angry and insecure. I'm going to go out on a limb here...are you a ...well....large gal?
Nope, I have no insecurities or anger at all nor am I a large gal. I am sure you would like to think that but hate to disappoint you. You seem to have an unhealthy obsession over that.

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« Reply #89 on: February 18, 2020, 01:18:05 pm »
Wow man. I was actually just guessing when I said Kentucky.
BS, you probably knew that and just think you guessed it. You aren't that smart.