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« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2019, 11:57:39 pm »
I don't condone Epstein's sex trafficking at all, but I think he's one of the better traffickers compared to others. I just hope Epstein's case opens up doors to the real bad ones out there that rape little kids 10 and under, and beat and kill and torture.
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« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2019, 11:52:24 pm »
Quote from: joanna50 on August 20, 2019, 02:36:42 pm
I don't think so, according to the autopsy reports but maybe the guards not doing their jobs had a hand in it

And perhaps they were well paid to slack, provide means, maybe instruction.

Rich dude with fantastic lawyers offing himself so early in the game just does not smell right.
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« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2019, 07:17:42 am »
Quote from: Realtime on August 12, 2019, 01:33:40 pm
Found this, been looking for a place to post it.

https://www.nytimes.com/1983/11/27/us/florida-center-is-a-crossroads-for-runaways.html

This is an archived article, I didn't get a paywall.  Note date, 1983, which was a time when both  laws and public opinions were very much different than today. As a for instance, in 1983 19 year old's could legally consume alcohol in Florida both beer and mixed drinks. Many of the clubs were lax on checking ID's and younger kids would often be served.
Looking for something else and found this old Miami Herald article about dancers as young as 13 appearing in Florida's nude bars.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article1959155.html
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« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2019, 05:15:21 pm »
I thought I posted this early today, guess it didn't take.

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) — The will that Jeffrey Epstein signed just two days before his jailhouse suicide puts more than $577 million in assets into a trust fund that could make it more difficult for his dozens of accusers to collect damages.

Estate lawyers and other experts say prying open the trust and dividing up the financier’s riches is not going to be easy and could take years.

Full story   
Jeffrey Epstein Took Steps To Block Victims From His Money Before Death
A will signed just two days before his suicide could make it harder to divide up his estate.
HuffPost · huffpost.com


So, it appears that he took steps to protect his fortune prior to offing himself.

Will add that his only survivor, his brother,  is a millionaire in his own right and while not commenting publicly so far appears not to be willing to deal with the craziness that this 1953 Trust presents.
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« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2019, 06:29:29 pm »
Quote from: Realtime on August 22, 2019, 05:15:21 pm
I thought I posted this early today, guess it didn't take.

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) — The will that Jeffrey Epstein signed just two days before his jailhouse suicide puts more than $577 million in assets into a trust fund that could make it more difficult for his dozens of accusers to collect damages.

Estate lawyers and other experts say prying open the trust and dividing up the financier’s riches is not going to be easy and could take years.

Full story   https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jeffrey-epstein-will-trust-victims_n_5d5e9cdfe4b02cc97c898b20

So, it appears that he took steps to protect his fortune prior to offing himself.



Will add that his only survivor, his brother,  is a millionaire in his own right and while not commenting publicly so far appears not to be willing to deal with the craziness that this 1953 Trust presents.



What I was wondering when I heard this, because he signed his will and all his possessions to his only living aire, his brother....does this mean suicide or murder? Sounds likre it could go either way. But what everyone is wondering, how could all his camera surveilance and guerds let him commit suicide. Plus the autopsy found a broken bone in his neck.
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« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2019, 06:31:42 pm »
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, just trying to get to the truth, just like any murder mystery on t.v. 

Could be suicide, but seems other factors may suggest something else.
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« Reply #43 on: August 23, 2019, 11:18:14 am »
Quote from: Jackie on August 22, 2019, 06:29:29 pm


What I was wondering when I heard this, because he signed his will and all his possessions to his only living aire, his brother....does this mean suicide or murder? Sounds likre it could go either way. But what everyone is wondering, how could all his camera surveilance and guerds let him commit suicide. Plus the autopsy found a broken bone in his neck.
But that's not what he did.

Two days prior to his death he signed a new will, recorded in the US Virgin Islands that puts his entire estate int a trust  known as The 1953 Trust. This trust adds layers of legal gamesmanship to those seeking to share in the bootie booty.

For details on the subject simply google  the1953trust
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« Reply #44 on: August 23, 2019, 05:15:16 pm »
Quote from: Realtime on August 23, 2019, 11:18:14 am
But that's not what he did.

Two days prior to his death he signed a new will, recorded in the US Virgin Islands that puts his entire estate int a trust  known as The 1953 Trust. This trust adds layers of legal gamesmanship to those seeking to share in the bootie booty.

For details on the subject simply google  the1953trust

Thats what I mean, the news said he signed a will 2 day prior to his death and that all possessions go to his only living aire, his brother.  Now I hear money could be tied up for years with his victoms for years.

I think by doing this will thing 2 days prior to his hanging this could mean suicide or maybe not - could go either way, needs more investigation.
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« Reply #45 on: August 25, 2019, 08:32:29 am »
Quote from: Jackie on August 23, 2019, 05:15:16 pm
Thats what I mean, the news said he signed a will 2 day prior to his death and that all possessions go to his only living aire, his brother.  Now I hear money could be tied up for years with his victoms for years.

I think by doing this will thing 2 days prior to his hanging this could mean suicide or maybe not - could go either way, needs more investigation.
It will take forever to to go through this mess. His will and estate will have to be probated first and that can take anywhere from 6 months to a year plus creditors will have to be paid if any. By the time, this all gets done, there may be no money for the victims, no matter how much money he supposedly had.
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« Reply #46 on: August 25, 2019, 02:34:31 pm »
Quote from: purplelady1040 on August 25, 2019, 08:32:29 am
It will take forever to to go through this mess. His will and estate will have to be probated first and that can take anywhere from 6 months to a year plus creditors will have to be paid if any. By the time, this all gets done, there may be no money for the victims, no matter how much money he supposedly had.

That very well may be.
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« Reply #47 on: August 26, 2019, 08:48:54 pm »
This Epstein news is growing by the day.

“I Collect People, I Own Peopleâ€: The Curious Sociopathy of Jeffrey Epstein
Epstein was a monster who portrayed himself as a “man of mystery,†says one of his ex-girlfriends. But Epstein also epitomized the larger transactional nature of fin de siècle New York society...
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I found this interesting. He really liked women or teenish girls. And he was a vegetarian, and very clean, and had a high sex drive, but overall a nice guy.
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« Reply #48 on: August 28, 2019, 04:55:58 am »
Quote from: Jackie on August 26, 2019, 08:48:54 pm
This Epstein news is growing by the day.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/08/curious-sociopathy-of-jeffrey-epstein-ex-girlfriends

I found this interesting. He really liked women or teenish girls. And he was a vegetarian, and very clean, and had a high sex drive, but overall a nice guy.
A nice guy who liked them young borders on pervert to me.
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« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2019, 02:00:14 am »
The FBI Is Reportedly Investigating Prince Andrew
The Queen
Town & Country · townandcountrymag.com


Prince Andrew's Ties to Jeffrey Epstein Are Reportedly Being Investigated By the FBI

The Queen's son was friends with Epstein, who was charged with sex trafficking earlier this summer.
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« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2019, 06:32:42 am »
Quote from: Jackie on October 02, 2019, 02:00:14 am
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a29323262/prince-andrew-jeffrey-epstein-fbi-investigation/

Prince Andrew's Ties to Jeffrey Epstein Are Reportedly Being Investigated By the FBI

The Queen's son was friends with Epstein, who was charged with sex trafficking earlier this summer.

Don't forget, Bill Clinton flew 27 times on the Lolita Express & Killery 4 times! INcluding trips to Africa. Remember also the Clinton Foudation made millions distributing a "compromised" HIV drug there. Bill Gates was also involved in this particular scheme!
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« Reply #52 on: October 02, 2019, 05:33:27 pm »
Quote from: Barn Kat on October 02, 2019, 06:32:42 am
Don't forget, Bill Clinton flew 27 times on the Lolita Express & Killery 4 times! INcluding trips to Africa. Remember also the Clinton Foudation made millions distributing a "compromised" HIV drug there. Bill Gates was also involved in this particular scheme!

i heard about Clinton's flights. But not about the Clinton Fdn. making millions on the HIV drug, It wouldn't surprise me if Bill Gates was involved.
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« Reply #53 on: May 29, 2021, 10:40:37 pm »
Quote from: joanna50 on August 12, 2019, 05:15:31 am
Just wondering what others think, my personal opinion is he took the cowards way out. After all anyone who diddles kids is not very manly, glad the loser is dead tho
It was "assisted". Wonder why they are taking so long with Ghislaine.
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