Welcome To Topix Too Forum

Says; A good debate don't involve "personal insults and being derogatory".  Continues to be derogatory towards others because of "grammar".


I also like how you are offhandedly using your position as a mod to squash (Read: Bullying) anyone else's dissenting opinion. You started off with a blanket statement about how "people" don't need to be disrespectful and derogatory in a good debate, but the more you point out that I was the one being  "disrespectful" and using it as a platform for personal attacks towards me, one can see who your comment was really directed at.

How many times are you going to be derogatory about my grammar, while in the same breath tell everyone else not to? 


Not that I even care about your lightly veiled insults, I don't. I'm only pointing it out to begin with to show how hypocritical you are- Shamefully so. And question your ability to mod fairly. This is the reason I even mention it to begin with.  Are you sure you can separate your personal beliefs with your power to moderate?   Do you have the integrity?

So far after your constant little display of derogatory quips, you don't inspire one to confidence.




----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/usc-yale-university-among-colleges-sued-by-stanford-students-amid-college-admissions-scandal/ar-BBULwYT?OCID=ansmsnnews11


Excerpt:

USC, Yale University among colleges sued by Stanford students amid college admissions scandal.


The University of Southern California, Yale University and several other elite colleges are being sued by two Stanford University students who claim they were denied a fair opportunity for admission and have had their degrees devalued due to the college cheating scheme revealed by federal officials Tuesday.
Erica Olson and Kalea Woods filed a class action lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California on Wednesday, a day after federal authorities said they uncovered one of the largest college admissions scams to hit the U.S. The lawsuit seeks $5,000,001 on behalf of what the lawyers estimate will be thousands of plaintiffs who fit the criteria to seek class status.


----------------------
Truthfully, I hope they win. These schools need to be made an example of so maybe in the future this type of behavior is minimized. They should of sued for a higher amount in my honest opinion.

I don't have time to give this a proper, well thought out response. I wish I did however, I'm very pressed for time today. I did feel the need to address a few key issues.

I did not say, "a good debate don't involve personal insults and being derogatory". What I said was, "a good debate doesn't have to involve". If you read with clarity there is a difference.

I try at all times to moderate with a fair and honest mindset. I don't feel I've ever been prejudice. However, since you've brought that up let's look at my initial statement. I stated this thread had gotten off track. That was very true. I mentioned family vacations and Melania as the sources. Those items are both 2 headed coins. Both you and Purplelady were in a written brawl over those issues. I don't feel I blamed either of you. I merely pointed out the issues. After that I did mention "tense and purposes", "would of", and "Fred Trump". Now, I do believe 2 of the matters I corrected in that portion of my post were directed at you. I felt you might want to know. Obviously I was wrong as you took offense. The other correction was an error PL made but she didn't take offense.

After my initial request to take the thread back to its original post, you seemed to feel a need to banter by calling me "daddy" and insinuating I was merely correcting spelling. That was not at all my purpose however, you were blinded by that key component. Because that was all you could see and it was obvious you weren't pleased, I took it one step further and went for the gut shot. For that, I apologize.

Now, please allow me to clarify one more thing. I did not ask to be a moderator nor did I ask to be a global moderator. I don't under any circumstance consider it a privilege. However, it's not a task I take lightly and intend at all times to help Pete the best I can.

It's my personal opinion that you have attempted at every opportunity to belittle others. Even your tag line is belittling to others. That's your choice and I've afforded you that privilege. I merely stepped in to correct the turn this thread had taken and because it appeared to me the tone was getting a bit heated.

Again, I apologize for offending you. While I admit, it might have been my intent to stick a pin in your ego, I should have not taken that shot.

Have a good day.

Oh and yes, I am female. I felt my word choice in the matter left nothing to the imagination. I agree other words such as incompatible may have been a good choice as well but I used what I felt was best. Obviously it worked for you so I'm satisfied.

I don't have time to give this a proper, well thought out response. I wish I did however, I'm very pressed for time today. I did feel the need to address a few key issues.

I did not say, "a good debate don't involve personal insults and being derogatory". What I said was, "a good debate doesn't have to involve". If you read with clarity there is a difference.

I try at all times to moderate with a fair and honest mindset. I don't feel I've ever been prejudice. However, since you've brought that up let's look at my initial statement. I stated this thread had gotten off track. That was very true. I mentioned family vacations and Melania as the sources. Those items are both 2 headed coins. Both you and Purplelady were in a written brawl over those issues. I don't feel I blamed either of you. I merely pointed out the issues. After that I did mention "tense and purposes", "would of", and "Fred Trump". Now, I do believe 2 of the matters I corrected in that portion of my post were directed at you. I felt you might want to know. Obviously I was wrong as you took offense. The other correction was an error PL made but she didn't take offense.

After my initial request to take the thread back to its original post, you seemed to feel a need to banter by calling me "daddy" and insinuating I was merely correcting spelling. That was not at all my purpose however, you were blinded by that key component. Because that was all you could see and it was obvious you weren't pleased, I took it one step further and went for the gut shot. For that, I apologize.

Now, please allow me to clarify one more thing. I did not ask to be a moderator nor did I ask to be a global moderator. I don't under any circumstance consider it a privilege. However, it's not a task I take lightly and intend at all times to help Pete the best I can.

It's my personal opinion that you have attempted at every opportunity to belittle others. Even your tag line is belittling to others. That's your choice and I've afforded you that privilege. I merely stepped in to correct the turn this thread had taken and because it appeared to me the tone was getting a bit heated.

Again, I apologize for offending you. While I admit, it might have been my intent to stick a pin in your ego, I should have not taken that shot.

Have a good day.

Oh and yes, I am female. I felt my word choice in the matter left nothing to the imagination. I agree other words such as incompatible may have been a good choice as well but I used what I felt was best. Obviously it worked for you so I'm satisfied.

No matter how many times you say "you (WLU) got offended", doesn't make it true. (I find your attempt cute at best)
You repeat it like you're trying to convince other readers that false accusation is true, so they gloss over who is really "offended" in your poorly devised psycho-babble response.
Your projection is cute. I'm sure you could of done better if you had more time.
Matter of fact, I stated otherwise; "Not that I even care about your lightly veiled insults, I don't."
In your rush to respond, you totally overlooked this one key component that completely destroys your whole reply.
If you would of taken the time to "read with clarity", maybe you wouldn't of been so pressed for time writing out a non-relevant response. (Food for thought)


If you think that you're going to start screaming at the sky in an uncontrolled manner, or others feel my name or tag is "belittling", offending your very, very delicate sensibilities, feel free to use the block feature.  If words on a screen from some random person upsets you this much, maybe you're the problem - not them. Unlike you, I find nobody here offensive or belittling. For an example sake, even when purplelady calls me "stupid" as seen in post #40.   


Next, let me address the way I speak to others since you actually seem offended by it on a personal level.  I apologize again if you find the way I speak (bluntly) to be "belittling". Your delicate sensibilities have no bearing on factual evidence, and/or the truth of the matter being presented.  Politics and religion are not for the mentally feeble and weak of heart. If you (others) feel you fit one of these categories, you can feel free not to participate in them, just like everyone else has the freedom not to. 


If you think I may be belittling everyone at "every chance", you should probably remove yourself from this politic thread section and visit other parts of this forum. It's really no surprise you come to this wrongly held conclusion, ignoring readily available information to fulfill your self feeding delusions in a poor and humorous attempt at character assassination. We also see this with the "Orange Man Bad" crowd in here. It seems to be a common reoccurring theme.



Thank you for the response. It was really nice for you to not flaunt your privilege as moderator, that you "afforded" me to be able to do something, no matter how much you just tried and deny to everyone you don't see it as a position of privilege.


I had a great day. Thank you.

No matter how many times you say "you (WLU) got offended", doesn't make it true. (I find your attempt cute at best)
You repeat it like you're trying to convince other readers that false accusation is true, so they gloss over who is really "offended" in your poorly devised psycho-babble response.
Your projection is cute. I'm sure you could of done better if you had more time.
Matter of fact, I stated otherwise; "Not that I even care about your lightly veiled insults, I don't."
In your rush to respond, you totally overlooked this one key component that completely destroys your whole reply.
If you would of taken the time to "read with clarity", maybe you wouldn't of been so pressed for time writing out a non-relevant response. (Food for thought)


If you think that you're going to start screaming at the sky in an uncontrolled manner, or others feel my name or tag is "belittling", offending your very, very delicate sensibilities, feel free to use the block feature.  If words on a screen from some random person upsets you this much, maybe you're the problem - not them. Unlike you, I find nobody here offensive or belittling. For an example sake, even when purplelady calls me "stupid" as seen in post #40.   


Next, let me address the way I speak to others since you actually seem offended by it on a personal level.  I apologize again if you find the way I speak (bluntly) to be "belittling". Your delicate sensibilities have no bearing on factual evidence, and/or the truth of the matter being presented.  Politics and religion are not for the mentally feeble and weak of heart. If you (others) feel you fit one of these categories, you can feel free not to participate in them, just like everyone else has the freedom not to. 


If you think I may be belittling everyone at "every chance", you should probably remove yourself from this politic thread section and visit other parts of this forum. It's really no surprise you come to this wrongly held conclusion, ignoring readily available information to fulfill your self feeding delusions in a poor and humorous attempt at character assassination. We also see this with the "Orange Man Bad" crowd in here. It seems to be a common reoccurring theme.



Thank you for the response. It was really nice for you to not flaunt your privilege as moderator, that you "afforded" me to be able to do something, no matter how much you just tried and deny to everyone you don't see it as a position of privilege.


I had a great day. Thank you.

Ok, you may be right. At least I'm sure you are in your mind. It's fine, I don't take exception to your belief you're right. Actually, I'm not sure I'm capable of reading all that with clarity. I tried a couple of times and what I got was a difference of opinion. That's okay too. We don't have to agree and honestly, I don't care.

I'm just really kind of stumped as to why you didn't point out that I have now contributed greatly to this thread being off topic. *facepalm*

Yes, I'm almost certain it's happened many times and many other colleges and universities are involved. Schemes of this magnitude are never isolated.

There's no question that it has happened before.  That is actually my biggest problem with this whole story.  Gaining admission through donation is a well-established means of entry into these institutions AND it is completely legal.  Where these people went wrong was that they tried to circumvent policy by keeping the funds for themselves (athletics/testing) instead of the funds going into a general donation fund.

I have to say WLU is blunt and to the point, that's 1 of the main reason I enjoy reading his posts, in a way he is like a topix poster named Tbay most people don't enjoy the truth and for it to not be sugar coated makes it even harder to swallow, I personally like the challenge he presents to my intellect, he makes me think and challenges my perceptions on things, but I do have 1 thing that kinda irrates me is that he can say **** but I cant, whats up with that?

I can say pen!s, because it's my patriarchal privilege as a white male.  Or... I substitute the exclamation point (!) for the letter (I) to bypass the absurd censorship on this forum. Pick your choice.

Ok, you may be right. At least I'm sure you are in your mind. It's fine, I don't take exception to your belief you're right. Actually, I'm not sure I'm capable of reading all that with clarity. I tried a couple of times and what I got was a difference of opinion. That's okay too. We don't have to agree and honestly, I don't care.

I'm just really kind of stumped as to why you didn't point out that I have now contributed greatly to this thread being off topic. *facepalm*

Everyone is "correct", unless proven otherwise with (new) factual information presented that disproves one's beliefs.  That's usually how a debate unfolds. Are you new to this?

And no, we don't have to agree. Like I said during our first encounter, I'm not here to change people's minds. I just present (debate) the evidence.  People's inability to take the presented, factual information and objectively come to a rational conclusion is on them, not me.

Our Topix was pretty dead besides the few trolls and conversations happened organically throughout threads that swung 'violently' from one topic to the next. I'll try and keep it  on topic as a respect to Der.

--------------------------------------------------------

I said earlier that they (students) should of sued for more than 5 million, but this is pretty funny- $500 billion.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-education-cheating-idUSKCN1QV20W


Another lawsuit filed by Joshua Toy and his mother said he was denied college admission despite a 4.2 grade point average, and seeks $500 billion of damages from 45 defendants for defrauding and inflicting emotional distress on everyone whose “rights to a fair chance” to enter college was stolen.

I can say pen!s, because it's my patriarchal privilege as a white male.  Or... I substitute the exclamation point (!) for the letter (I) to bypass the absurd censorship on this forum. Pick your choice.



Everyone is "correct", unless proven otherwise with (new) factual information presented that disproves one's beliefs.  That's usually how a debate unfolds. Are you new to this?

And no, we don't have to agree. Like I said during our first encounter, I'm not here to change people's minds. I just present (debate) the evidence.  People's inability to take the presented, factual information and objectively come to a rational conclusion is on them, not me.

Our Topix was pretty dead besides the few trolls and conversations happened organically throughout threads that swung 'violently' from one topic to the next. I'll try and keep it  on topic as a respect to Der.

--------------------------------------------------------

I said earlier that they (students) should of sued for more than 5 million, but this is pretty funny- $500 billion.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-education-cheating-idUSKCN1QV20W


Another lawsuit filed by Joshua Toy and his mother said he was denied college admission despite a 4.2 grade point average, and seeks $500 billion of damages from 45 defendants for defrauding and inflicting emotional distress on everyone whose “rights to a fair chance” to enter college was stolen.

Far be it from me to deny you your patriarchal rights

I read an article once that more labor skills were needed, not college eggheads, just saying

I read probably the same article, we have encouraged our son to do just that and he wants to go into the welding trade. I always told kids when working with them, I don't take my car to Joe Citizen but to a qualified mechanic.  Trade people make more money in some fields than degreed people and probably with less loans to pay back.