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Offline ICON

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« Reply #108 on: December 09, 2019, 02:20:20 pm »
I hope your right, because the way I'm seeing it now my stepfather's flu shot made him very sick, he had to go to the hospital, then my mom got it, and she never gets colds, ever!! Now she's in the hospital.
For what it's worth, the flu shot does not contain any live virus therefore scientifically it cannot give you the flu. It can however, in some people, make you sore and uncomfortable temporarily but nothing that would require a hospital visit. Keep in mind, it takes approximately 2 weeks to become completely effective after receiving the vaccine. Therefore, if you were already exposed to the flu prior to receiving the shot or exposed within a few days of receiving the vaccine, you could still get the flu.

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« Reply #109 on: December 09, 2019, 02:27:17 pm »
Update, just found out my mom was discharged, was getting ready to visit. She was only there 4 hours. Who knows how she got the cold, blame it on the rain, as the song goes. Thanks for your concern. But I'm still not getting the flu shot.
There's currently a strain of Adult RSV going around which is not the flu but it can be very debilitating for the elderly. I don't know how old your parents are but they may have contracted that virus.

You've made yourself clear about getting the flu vaccine. I personally think that's very unfortunate for you and anyone you might come in contact with but ultimately it's your decision. My instinct is you merely felt the need to argue and dispute the facts. That's ok too. I don't mind at all. When I'm not busy, I'm happy to add my two cents. I learned a long time ago, sometimes you just can't turn a donkey.
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« Reply #110 on: December 09, 2019, 02:50:50 pm »
For what it's worth, the flu shot does not contain any live virus therefore scientifically it cannot give you the flu. It can however, in some people, make you sore and uncomfortable temporarily but nothing that would require a hospital visit. Keep in mind, it takes approximately 2 weeks to become completely effective after receiving the vaccine. Therefore, if you were already exposed to the flu prior to receiving the shot or exposed within a few days of receiving the vaccine, you could still get the flu.
There are two types of the so called "flu shot" one administered by injection usually in the upper arm and the other administered by nasal mist. The nasal mist treatment includes a weakened form of "live virus."

As a cancer survivor with clotting complications I've been encouraged to get both the flu and pneumonia injections and warned, forbidden in my case, to accept the nasal treatment.

https://www.webmd.com/children/vaccines/flu-shot-nasal-spray#1

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« Reply #111 on: December 09, 2019, 03:25:56 pm »
There's currently a strain of Adult RSV going around which is not the flu but it can be very debilitating for the elderly. I don't know how old your parents are but they may have contracted that virus.

You've made yourself clear about getting the flu vaccine. I personally think that's very unfortunate for you and anyone you might come in contact with but ultimately it's your decision. My instinct is you merely felt the need to argue and dispute the facts. That's ok too. I don't mind at all. When I'm not busy, I'm happy to add my two cents. I learned a long time ago, sometimes you just can't turn a donkey.

Thanks for the info.The donkey comment I don't get.

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« Reply #112 on: December 09, 2019, 03:28:03 pm »
There are two types of the so called "flu shot" one administered by injection usually in the upper arm and the other administered by nasal mist. The nasal mist treatment includes a weakened form of "live virus."

As a cancer survivor with clotting complications I've been encouraged to get both the flu and pneumonia injections and warned, forbidden in my case, to accept the nasal treatment.

https://www.webmd.com/children/vaccines/flu-shot-nasal-spray#1

I had no idea people with cancer should get the flu shot. I guess anybody with heath issues should.

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« Reply #113 on: December 09, 2019, 03:44:00 pm »
There are two types of the so called "flu shot" one administered by injection usually in the upper arm and the other administered by nasal mist. The nasal mist treatment includes a weakened form of "live virus."

As a cancer survivor with clotting complications I've been encouraged to get both the flu and pneumonia injections and warned, forbidden in my case, to accept the nasal treatment.

https://www.webmd.com/children/vaccines/flu-shot-nasal-spray#1
Thank you for the info. I didn't know the flu mist contained live virus and honestly thought it was only used in small children. That's interesting. I can understand why it would be offered to adults because I know a few people that are absolutely terrified of shots. LOL

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« Reply #114 on: December 09, 2019, 03:44:35 pm »
Thanks for the info.The donkey comment I don't get.

https://www.cdc.gov/rsv/factsheet-older-adults.html

Read this, never heard of it, they have no vaccine for this.

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« Reply #115 on: December 09, 2019, 03:45:56 pm »
Thanks for the info.The donkey comment I don't get.
That doesn't surprise me in the least and it's not important at all.

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« Reply #116 on: December 09, 2019, 04:08:48 pm »
There are two types of the so called "flu shot" one administered by injection usually in the upper arm and the other administered by nasal mist. The nasal mist treatment includes a weakened form of "live virus."

As a cancer survivor with clotting complications I've been encouraged to get both the flu and pneumonia injections and warned, forbidden in my case, to accept the nasal treatment.

https://www.webmd.com/children/vaccines/flu-shot-nasal-spray#1
Thanks for the info. Like ICNO,  I always thought the nasal mist was for children. I was told at my daughter's orthodontist appointment today that the pneumonia shot is now good forever instead of 5 years.

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« Reply #117 on: December 09, 2019, 04:10:19 pm »
There's currently a strain of Adult RSV going around which is not the flu but it can be very debilitating for the elderly. I don't know how old your parents are but they may have contracted that virus.

You've made yourself clear about getting the flu vaccine. I personally think that's very unfortunate for you and anyone you might come in contact with but ultimately it's your decision. My instinct is you merely felt the need to argue and dispute the facts. That's ok too. I don't mind at all. When I'm not busy, I'm happy to add my two cents. I learned a long time ago, sometimes you just can't turn a donkey.
I am wondering if RSV is what my friend's grandson had as he had pneumonia like symptoms and asthma like symptoms but don't know for sure if that is what it was.

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« Reply #118 on: December 10, 2019, 07:44:30 am »
If cancer runs in your family than the chances of you getting breast cancer is higher even if that isn't the cancer they have.  I know women who didn't get a mammogram,  had no history of breast cancer and got breast cancer, had they gotten a routine mammogram,  early detection would have prevented them from chemo, radiation and having breast cancer. It is not worth the risk to go without.
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Hair dyes linked to higher risk of breast cancer: study

Moreover, the risk of dye-linked cancer appeared much higher for black women, researchers noted

https://www.salon.com/2019/12/09/hair-dyes-linked-to-higher-risk-of-breast-cancer-study/
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« Reply #119 on: December 10, 2019, 12:24:30 pm »
New

Hair dyes linked to higher risk of breast cancer: study

Moreover, the risk of dye-linked cancer appeared much higher for black women, researchers noted

https://www.salon.com/2019/12/09/hair-dyes-linked-to-higher-risk-of-breast-cancer-study/
I had heard that.

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« Reply #120 on: December 10, 2019, 02:28:55 pm »
I had heard that.
Might help explain why the incidence of breast cancer has been on the rise for the past 50 years.

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« Reply #121 on: December 10, 2019, 03:23:15 pm »
Might help explain why the incidence of breast cancer has been on the rise for the past 50 years.
Exactly so and why black women are at a higher risk.
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« Reply #122 on: December 11, 2019, 03:55:28 pm »
Here's a simple explanation:

Capitalism is anti-social; a predatory economic system based on benefiting the one and or the elite.  Socialism and Communism are social economic systems based on benefiting society or the many.

Now if you're setting up a society, do you want to promote an economic system that pits everyone against each other, or an economic system that promotes everyone in that society, generally, for the best outcome for everyone?

Anyway, people can probably guess your answer.

You guessed right. I don't know how you come up with predatory. It appears voluntary to me. Pits everyone against each other?

Your socialist systems only benefit the people running them. I remember the best outcome in the old Soviet Union was bread lines.

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« Reply #123 on: December 11, 2019, 03:57:12 pm »
The biggest threat to democracy, America, society, and this site in general is dummies like you who think you have the answer to it all.

I just had a thought... go lick some windows and worry about your small sized pen1s

Oh my, Jimmy!!  You're my new hero.  :)

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« Reply #124 on: December 11, 2019, 04:18:41 pm »
It's a risk not to get one. I'll check into 3d imaging. Breast cancer is not in my family, but cancer yes.

A doctor's examination found my wife's breast cancer. Well, a small lump. A ct scan and biopsy later confirmed breast cancer. Listen to Purplelady and Icno. Cancer is nothing to play around with.

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« Reply #125 on: December 11, 2019, 07:57:40 pm »
A doctor's examination found my wife's breast cancer. Well, a small lump. A ct scan and biopsy later confirmed breast cancer. Listen to Purplelady and Icno. Cancer is nothing to play around with.

I know it.