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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8838 on: December 17, 2019, 11:29:01 pm »
"...there is no doubt that Trump is guilty, and keeping him in power is an abdication of the duty of congressional members to defend and uphold the Constitution. But it's naive to think that this choice to back Trump's criminality is being done out of fear. Instead, the likelier story is that most Republicans support Trump not despite, but because of his all-out assault on our democratic system.

Whatever word you want to use for it — fascism, authoritarianism, pick your poison — the grim reality is that Republicans, both politicians and voters, appear to be all in on this project. It's painful to admit this, but Republicans have flat-out rejected democracy. As a group, they are pushing towards replacing democracy with a system where a powerful minority holds disproportionate and borderline tyrannical control over government and blocks the majority of Americans from having meaningful say over the direction of the country...."

It's the opposite, its the Demorats destroying this nation!
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8839 on: December 17, 2019, 11:30:04 pm »
"...there is no doubt that Trump is guilty, and keeping him in power is an abdication of the duty of congressional members to defend and uphold the Constitution. But it's naive to think that this choice to back Trump's criminality is being done out of fear. Instead, the likelier story is that most Republicans support Trump not despite, but because of his all-out assault on our democratic system.

Whatever word you want to use for it — fascism, authoritarianism, pick your poison — the grim reality is that Republicans, both politicians and voters, appear to be all in on this project. It's painful to admit this, but Republicans have flat-out rejected democracy. As a group, they are pushing towards replacing democracy with a system where a powerful minority holds disproportionate and borderline tyrannical control over government and blocks the majority of Americans from having meaningful say over the direction of the country...."

I agree Mark.

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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8840 on: December 17, 2019, 11:31:09 pm »
"...Republicans are not cowering in fear of Trump. On the contrary, they are exalting in his shamelessness. Watching Republicans at impeachment hearings, where they performed outrage for the cameras, lied with obvious glee and gloried in sharing conspiracy theories, it did not appear that they were intimidated by their president or anyone else.

No, Republicans clearly feel empowered by Trump. He frees them to reveal their darkest desire — which is to end democracy as we know it, and to cut any corners or break any laws necessary to get the job done..."

This is what the Demorats wants people to believe. But the people see clearly as to their diviate ways.
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8841 on: December 18, 2019, 12:31:23 am »
This is what the Demorats wants people to believe. But the people see clearly as to their diviate ways.

Confirmed.

"...who hold a narrow, racist, reactionary view of what being an "American" is. They believe that those of us who don't fit into that view — because we're not white or because we're not Christian or because we're pointy-headed intellectuals who believe in free thought or because we're queer or because we're feminists — are not legitimate Americans, therefore not legitimate voters. So Trump's law-breaking to undermine the 2020 election is seen only as a necessary corrective to the "problem" of a pluralistic democracy..."

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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8842 on: December 18, 2019, 12:47:27 am »
" I'm a bit wary about a government determining what is an ethical norm. A broad or general clause would remain the same in words but the meaning would change over the years, wouldn't it?"

I get what you're saying but: right is right and wrong is wrong. Lying, deception and cheating are wrong, always were and always will be.

Why would a Clause stating as much ever change?

Right and wrong change, don't they? Locking up Japanese Americans would be unthinkable today. I imagine there has been a lot of lying, cheating, and deception over the years. We just don't know about a lot of them. Lying? Deception? There wouldn't be anyone electable.  :)

I would expect the same condition placed on congress congress. Their ethics committee doesn't seem to be working out.

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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8843 on: December 18, 2019, 12:58:52 am »
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8844 on: December 18, 2019, 01:00:54 am »
"...A Fox News poll found much stronger support for Elizabeth Warren's wealth tax than Trump's Mexican border wall..."

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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8845 on: December 18, 2019, 01:01:05 am »
"...there is no doubt that Trump is guilty, and keeping him in power is an abdication of the duty of congressional members to defend and uphold the Constitution. But it's naive to think that this choice to back Trump's criminality is being done out of fear. Instead, the likelier story is that most Republicans support Trump not despite, but because of his all-out assault on our democratic system.

Whatever word you want to use for it — fascism, authoritarianism, pick your poison — the grim reality is that Republicans, both politicians and voters, appear to be all in on this project. It's painful to admit this, but Republicans have flat-out rejected democracy. As a group, they are pushing towards replacing democracy with a system where a powerful minority holds disproportionate and borderline tyrannical control over government and blocks the majority of Americans from having meaningful say over the direction of the country...."

Just curious. How do you feel about senators running against Trump for office serving as a juror in a senate trial? 

Not letting a majority suppress the rights of a minority is basic to our founding. It becomes fascist or authoritorian without it. The majority becomes a dictatorship. 

Would attemting to overturn the results of an election be a rejection of a democracy?


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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8852 on: December 18, 2019, 07:25:20 am »
This is what the Demorats wants people to believe. But the people see clearly as to their diviate ways.
Both parties have deviated so quit claiming it is just the Democrats.

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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8853 on: December 18, 2019, 10:56:26 am »
"...Trump Urged To Resign Before Impeachment Vote: 'It Would Be The Most Shared Tweet Of All Time'..."
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8854 on: December 18, 2019, 11:28:01 am »
"...Republican Group Hits Trump Defenders With Scathing Reminder On Impeachment Day..."

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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8855 on: December 18, 2019, 11:59:24 am »
"...Republican Group Hits Trump Defenders With Scathing Reminder On Impeachment Day..."

You're more gullible than I thought. Republicans for the rule of law is a scam PAC funded by Pierre Omidyar, the ultra left wing eBay founder.
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