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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8748 on: December 16, 2019, 01:52:21 pm »
Quote from: MarkJ- on December 16, 2019, 01:21:30 pm
This seems to be one of those "iceberg" problems, what we see is just the tip and it runs all the way down to volunteer fire depts.
Find under "things you join."

As a former Rotarian and Chamber of Commerce person I understand exactly where  you're going with that.
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« Reply #8749 on: December 16, 2019, 02:15:30 pm »
Quote from: Teaman on December 16, 2019, 10:16:05 am
When was contempt of congress committed?  The executive branch isn't obliged to the legislative branch.
(1) violations of campaign finance law; (2) bribery; (3) honest services fraud; (4) violations of the Hatch Act; and (5) contempt of Congress.”

If you'd bothered to read (and comprehend) the Mueller Report you wouldn't have to ask those silly questions.
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8750 on: December 16, 2019, 02:19:15 pm »
PolitiFact Lie of the Year 2019: Trump’s claim whisteblower got Ukraine call wrong

Every year, PolitiFact editors review the year’s most flagrant inaccuracies in search of a significant false claim that can be elevated to Lie of the Year. This year’s most ridiculous claim stemmed from an infamous July phone call.

Full story   https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2019/12/16/politifact-lie-of-the-year-2019-trumps-claim-whisteblower-got-ukraine-call-wrong/
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« Reply #8751 on: December 16, 2019, 02:28:23 pm »
Quote from: MarkJ- on December 16, 2019, 12:48:15 pm
"...Russia’s State TV Calls Trump Their ‘Agent’..."
Russian state-run TV has aired Rudy Giuliani’s interview with a pro-Trump US news channel in which he promoted widely-debunked conspiracy theories to undermine the impeachment inquiry into the president.

Donald Trump’s personal lawyer appeared on the right-wing channel One America News (OAN) on Sunday to share what he claimed was evidence of interference by Ukraine in the 2016 election and corruption by Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

On Monday, segments from the interview were broadcast on Russia-1, a TV channel owned by the Russian government which has been accused of bias towards Vladimir Putin.

Fiona Hill, a senior National Security Council official, testified in November that the conspiracy theory that Ukraine, not Russia, interfered in the 2016 election was a “fictional narrative” spread by Russian security services.
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8752 on: December 16, 2019, 02:28:54 pm »
Quote from: purplelady1040 on December 16, 2019, 06:58:20 am
Got it! But actually it was President George Bush who signed the Patriot Act as it was done in 2001 after the Terrorist Attacks of 9/11.
I do realize that and Obama had chances to dissolve it, instead we ultimately wound up with the USA Freedom Act with all the goodies of the original Patriot Act.

Thanks, Obama
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« Reply #8753 on: December 16, 2019, 02:39:15 pm »
Quote from: Teaman on December 16, 2019, 10:42:31 am
Beautiful day today. A high of 81, low humidity, and not a cloud in the sky. I'll be back.
Beautiful day here too! 35 and sunny.
Not enough snow yet to run the sleds but we do have ground cover.

Think I'll just sit inside and wait for my wife to get back to decide what to do.  ;)
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8754 on: December 16, 2019, 02:54:44 pm »
Quote from: Jimmy on December 16, 2019, 02:28:54 pm
I do realize that and Obama had chances to dissolve it, instead we ultimately wound up with the USA Freedom Act with all the goodies of the original Patriot Act.

Thanks, Obama
Okay, wasn't sure where you were going.
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8755 on: December 16, 2019, 03:01:35 pm »
"...Trump insults Pelosi's teeth in bizarre personal attack ahead of impeachment vote | Republican says president's insult is due to 'frustration' with prospect of being impeached..."
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« Reply #8756 on: December 16, 2019, 03:04:54 pm »
Quote from: Jimmy on December 16, 2019, 02:28:54 pm
I do realize that and Obama had chances to dissolve it, instead we ultimately wound up with the USA Freedom Act with all the goodies of the original Patriot Act.

Thanks, Obama
Obama had a slim chance during his first term, no chance at all during his second.

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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8757 on: December 16, 2019, 03:13:36 pm »
Quote from: Realtime on December 16, 2019, 03:04:54 pm
Obama had a slim chance during his first term, no chance at all during his second.
A slim chance is better than no chance and the "Freedom Act" was signed into law in 2015.

(shrug)?
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8758 on: December 16, 2019, 03:24:38 pm »
Quote from: MarkJ- on December 16, 2019, 03:01:35 pm
"...Trump insults Pelosi's teeth in bizarre personal attack ahead of impeachment vote | Republican says president's insult is due to 'frustration' with prospect of being impeached..."
If our founders would have only put in an Ethics Clause.
Trump wouldn't have even qualified as a contestant.

That's why I've always said use the 25th, normal grownups just don't act like that POS.
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« Reply #8759 on: December 16, 2019, 04:16:37 pm »
Quote from: Jimmy on December 16, 2019, 03:13:36 pm
A slim chance is better than no chance and the "Freedom Act" was signed into law in 2015.

(shrug)?
Sorry, thought we were discussing the Patriot Act/

Why after YEARS of blocking bipartisan FISA reforms are senior Republicans suddenly interested in it? There is no question that we need to improve transparency, accountability and oversight of the FISA process,” Wyden tweeted.

But the push for FISA court reforms could win over Republicans who usually aren’t supportive of reining in surveillance authorities. GOP senators this week tipped their hats to their libertarian-minded colleagues, who have pushed for reforms largely without success in the years since the 9/11 attacks.

So__blocked.
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8760 on: December 16, 2019, 04:46:35 pm »
History of US Freedom Act

Introduced in the House as H.R. 2048 by Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI-5) with 150 House[1] and 21 Senate[2] co-sponsors on April 28, 2015
Committee consideration by Judiciary, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Financial Services, United States House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security and Investigations
Passed the House on May 13, 2015 (Yeas: 338; Nays: 88)
Passed the Senate on June 2, 2015 (Yeas: 67; Nays: 32)
Signed into law by President Barack Obama on June 2, 2015

Veto proof?

The One Hundred Fourteenth United States Congress was a meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government, composed of the United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives. Wikipedia

Senate majority: Republican Party

Senate President pro tem: Orrin Hatch (R)

Senate president: Joe Biden (D)

Members: 100 senators; 435 members of the House; 6 non-voting delegates

House Speaker: John Boehner (R); until October 29, 2015; Paul Ryan (R); from October 29, 2015

Pretty sure
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8761 on: December 16, 2019, 05:07:53 pm »
Quote from: Realtime on December 16, 2019, 04:46:35 pm
History of US Freedom Act

Introduced in the House as H.R. 2048 by Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI-5) with 150 House[1] and 21 Senate[2] co-sponsors on April 28, 2015
Committee consideration by Judiciary, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Financial Services, United States House Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security and Investigations
Passed the House on May 13, 2015 (Yeas: 338; Nays: 88)
Passed the Senate on June 2, 2015 (Yeas: 67; Nays: 32)
Signed into law by President Barack Obama on June 2, 2015

Veto proof?

The One Hundred Fourteenth United States Congress was a meeting of the legislative branch of the United States federal government, composed of the United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives. Wikipedia

Senate majority: Republican Party

Senate President pro tem: Orrin Hatch (R)

Senate president: Joe Biden (D)

Members: 100 senators; 435 members of the House; 6 non-voting delegates

House Speaker: John Boehner (R); until October 29, 2015; Paul Ryan (R); from October 29, 2015

Pretty sure

We are mere pawns of our Big Brother.
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8762 on: December 16, 2019, 05:35:44 pm »
"...PolitiFact announces 'Lie of the Year 2019': Trump’s claim whisteblower got Ukraine call wrong..."
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8763 on: December 16, 2019, 05:50:37 pm »
Quote from: MarkJ- on December 16, 2019, 05:35:44 pm
"...PolitiFact announces 'Lie of the Year 2019': Trump’s claim whisteblower got Ukraine call wrong..."

That has to be a lot of work sifting thru thousands of lies just this year alone (that is just what he said on TV or tweet)to come up with a winner. I would not want that job, too time consuming....
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8764 on: December 16, 2019, 06:10:15 pm »
Quote from: Texas Pete on December 16, 2019, 09:05:23 am
The website is known for publishing falsehoods and spreading hoaxes.

Flawed huh, so which part of this article is wrong, a hoax, lies?
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #8765 on: December 16, 2019, 06:19:08 pm »
Quote from: Weepy on December 16, 2019, 05:50:37 pm
That has to be a lot of work sifting thru thousands of lies just this year alone (that is just what he said on TV or tweet)to come up with a winner. I would not want that job, too time consuming....

No kidding, it is bad enough just to hear all that BS once.   This has gone way beyond embarrassing, our country has become an international joke.
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