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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #2466 on: September 12, 2019, 04:06:49 pm »
Pretty sure that just as many women/girls from R families have had abortions as those from D, I, and NPA families proportionately.

German Measle exposure was always a good excuse for those who needed an excuse. Thirteen year old daughters of Baptist preachers for instance.

Elliot Broidy encouraged his centerfold mistress to get an abortion and paid for it of course. That case is currently in court.

Broidy was the RNC deputy finance chair during the 2016/16 and was also involved with Trump sidekick lawyer Michael Cohen. He was also involved with Trump pedo pal George Nader. Small world eh.

Abortions aren't limited to one political party, that's for sure.
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« Reply #2467 on: September 12, 2019, 04:10:13 pm »
Barbara Res didn't own HRH, they hired her because she had worked with Trump on other projects.

She's a regular guest on the Ari Melvin show on MSNBC.  She's got nothing nice to say about the Trump Org.

It's apparent she doesn't like Trump much. But the point was Trump wasn't trying to keep women down and out of the workforce like Weepy claims. The fact that she worked with Trump on other projects reinforces that.
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« Reply #2468 on: September 12, 2019, 04:24:22 pm »
It's apparent she doesn't like Trump much. But the point was Trump wasn't trying to keep women down and out of the workforce like Weepy claims. The fact that she worked with Trump on other projects reinforces that.
He may have been OK with Res but he didn't hire her__she came along with the package. She's not the one to hold up as some sort of equal op proof. That's not to say that he, or the Trump Org didn't hire women in important roles only that she wasn't one of them.

https://www.enr.com/articles/44052-nyc-builder-who-challenged-trump-dies-at-92

Trump can't be trusted__nor can his  pal Giuliani who put Leona Helmsley in prison for a tenth of what the Trump Family has gotten away with.

Speaking of prison__Chris Christie put Jared Kushner's pops away in your home state
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #2469 on: September 12, 2019, 04:43:31 pm »
He may have been OK with Res but he didn't hire her__she came along with the package. She's not the one to hold up as some sort of equal op proof. That's not to say that he, or the Trump Org didn't hire women in important roles only that she wasn't one of them.

https://www.enr.com/articles/44052-nyc-builder-who-challenged-trump-dies-at-92

Trump can't be trusted__nor can his  pal Giuliani who put Leona Helmsley in prison for a tenth of what the Trump Family has gotten away with.

Speaking of prison__Chris Christie put Jared Kushner's pops away in your home state

I knew about Kushner's dad. That's probably why Christy never had a chance of becoming part of Trump's team.
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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #2470 on: September 12, 2019, 08:19:50 pm »
"The bottom line is: Almost all of the job gains under President Obama have been in so-called service jobs, such as those in Silicon Valley and consulting. Others are the low-end jobs, toiling in stores and restaurants."

Almost all of the jobs gained were McJobs, service jobs, and retail.

https://money.cnn.com/2016/11/04/news/economy/jobs-under-obama/

From what I saw back in Jersey, much of the IT jobs were filled by H1B visa employees.

Hey! I got two dumbs. Fantastic. Let's not forget the part-time jobs Obamacare created.

The low end jobs were all that there were at that time. People were losing jobs and retirements and homes at record rates.
I'll give Obama credit for at least realizing that we needed 'jobs' at that time.
Had the Republican's at least tried to work with him maybe things would have been different.

At any rate without those service jobs we wouldn't have grown to need any other industry (it takes money stimulus) to create any sort of saleable product, even without any help from the right Obama pulled it off.
I'm hardly praising him for the economy he created (it cost us trillions) but the end result is obvious.

Trump's result is obvious too. We'll be in an even worse Recession/Depression than the one Obama was, with the added benefit of dirty water and dirty air thanks to his archaic fossil fuel policies and with the EPA rules in general.

You say the IT jobs were filled by H1B visa employees in Jersey and you're right. They were mostly Asian of Indian persuasion coming here for a better wage.

It's ironic because they were better educated than most of our home grown IT people. But not all of our IT people were 'lower' educated.
The irony is that our smarter IT people were being recruited by China at that time; my son-in-law who is 28 years-old now is in IT Security and at that time he was offered a full boat Scholarship to Tsinghua University - Beijing.
He did a 1 year stint there for the good pay they offered, but came back because home is where the heart is or something like that.

I guess my point is that like it or not we live in a Global Economy and no amount of fossil fuel will change that.     

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« Reply #2471 on: September 12, 2019, 09:40:47 pm »
The low end jobs were all that there were at that time. People were losing jobs and retirements and homes at record rates.
I'll give Obama credit for at least realizing that we needed 'jobs' at that time.
Had the Republican's at least tried to work with him maybe things would have been different.

At any rate without those service jobs we wouldn't have grown to need any other industry (it takes money stimulus) to create any sort of saleable product, even without any help from the right Obama pulled it off.
I'm hardly praising him for the economy he created (it cost us trillions) but the end result is obvious.

Trump's result is obvious too. We'll be in an even worse Recession/Depression than the one Obama was, with the added benefit of dirty water and dirty air thanks to his archaic fossil fuel policies and with the EPA rules in general.

You say the IT jobs were filled by H1B visa employees in Jersey and you're right. They were mostly Asian of Indian persuasion coming here for a better wage.

It's ironic because they were better educated than most of our home grown IT people. But not all of our IT people were 'lower' educated.
The irony is that our smarter IT people were being recruited by China at that time; my son-in-law who is 28 years-old now is in IT Security and at that time he was offered a full boat Scholarship to Tsinghua University - Beijing.
He did a 1 year stint there for the good pay they offered, but came back because home is where the heart is or something like that.

I guess my point is that like it or not we live in a Global Economy and no amount of fossil fuel will change that.     

I agree with most of your post. People  of many professions went to work over seas because they couln't find anything worthwhile here in the states, there are alot of US citizens working all over the world. I saw a graphic Designer on 60 min. say he couldn't find work here in the states and went to China to liv and work. He said his pay wasn't the greatest but he and his wife were still able to make there rent and he likes living in China. This is just one sad story, talk about a long commute.
I would never want to live in China now with their social credit score on the entire population. I will stay in the USA, I'm sure things will pick up, living free is more important than the comforts of life (material things) People get very creative in creating work for themselves. Like starting a small bus of some sort. So if there is a will there is a way to make it here in USA.

I was thinking of starting a massage parlor for feet.

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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #2472 on: September 12, 2019, 10:49:14 pm »
The low end jobs were all that there were at that time. People were losing jobs and retirements and homes at record rates.
I'll give Obama credit for at least realizing that we needed 'jobs' at that time.
Had the Republican's at least tried to work with him maybe things would have been different.

At any rate without those service jobs we wouldn't have grown to need any other industry (it takes money stimulus) to create any sort of saleable product, even without any help from the right Obama pulled it off.
I'm hardly praising him for the economy he created (it cost us trillions) but the end result is obvious.

Trump's result is obvious too. We'll be in an even worse Recession/Depression than the one Obama was, with the added benefit of dirty water and dirty air thanks to his archaic fossil fuel policies and with the EPA rules in general.

You say the IT jobs were filled by H1B visa employees in Jersey and you're right. They were mostly Asian of Indian persuasion coming here for a better wage.

It's ironic because they were better educated than most of our home grown IT people. But not all of our IT people were 'lower' educated.
The irony is that our smarter IT people were being recruited by China at that time; my son-in-law who is 28 years-old now is in IT Security and at that time he was offered a full boat Scholarship to Tsinghua University - Beijing.
He did a 1 year stint there for the good pay they offered, but came back because home is where the heart is or something like that.

I guess my point is that like it or not we live in a Global Economy and no amount of fossil fuel will change that.     

Hey, Jimmy! Good post. No doubt the economy is global. As far as fossil fuel goes, natural gas is much cleaner than coal or kerosene (heating oil). What is the planned replacement for fossil fuels considering commerce depends on shipping?   

IMO, if people are really concerned with CO2 levels, there would be something done about the deforestation of the lungs of the world. I forget the area in Africa that processes an enormous amount of CO2 that is being cut down. The same with the Amazon rain forests and other Asian areas. China and India were given a pass at the Paris agreement. That didn't sound like the CO2 levels were a real concern. 

My daughter worked in China for a short while. I imagine your son-in-law came back because China sucks. lol I would guess home is where the heart is was also a factor. It's uncanny no one sees China as a very dangerous adversary.

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Re: Does Our Media Work For The People?
« Reply #2473 on: September 12, 2019, 10:50:03 pm »
I agree with most of your post. People  of many professions went to work over seas because they couln't find anything worthwhile here in the states, there are alot of US citizens working all over the world. I saw a graphic Designer on 60 min. say he couldn't find work here in the states and went to China to liv and work. He said his pay wasn't the greatest but he and his wife were still able to make there rent and he likes living in China. This is just one sad story, talk about a long commute.
I would never want to live in China now with their social credit score on the entire population. I will stay in the USA, I'm sure things will pick up, living free is more important than the comforts of life (material things) People get very creative in creating work for themselves. Like starting a small bus of some sort. So if there is a will there is a way to make it here in USA.

I was thinking of starting a massage parlor for feet.

Expats, and the reasons that they are expats, are as diverse as snowflakes. I was out for the tax free cash and a foolish bit of patriotism. I met US citizens who were running from civil judgements, wives, ex-wives, one fellow I suspected of being in the witness protection program, some for the adventure, ex military who just enjoyed traveling and living on someone else's dime, ex military who were war junkies, even folks who had spent so much of their lives outside of the USA that they were citizens in name only. All of them at that time exempt from US tax up to the first $80K of income.
 
I also met people from other countries one of which lost his passport when his country split and ceased to exist. He was stuck until he could get that problem sorted.

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« Reply #2474 on: September 12, 2019, 10:59:28 pm »
Expats, and the reasons that they are expats, are as diverse as snowflakes. I was out for the tax free cash and a foolish bit of patriotism. I met US citizens who were running from civil judgements, wives, ex-wives, one fellow I suspected of being in the witness protection program, some for the adventure, ex military who just enjoyed traveling and living on someone else's dime, ex military who were war junkies, even folks who had spent so much of their lives outside of the USA that they were citizens in name only. All of them at that time exempt from US tax up to the first $80K of income.
 
I also met people from other countries one of which lost his passport when his country split and ceased to exist. He was stuck until he could get that problem sorted.

Your last part of your post reminds me of the movies with Tom Hanks, he was stuck in an airport, because his country didn't exist anymore, they called it being stuck in the cracks.

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« Reply #2475 on: September 13, 2019, 10:51:43 am »
Your last part of your post reminds me of the movies with Tom Hanks, he was stuck in an airport, because his country didn't exist anymore, they called it being stuck in the cracks.

  Can you imagine?  Stuck in a foreign county, 100% dependent on your job and the good will and discretion of your bosses. And I imagine he was also having to stay below the radar of the host country.  I know I never saw him smile, the poor fellow was miserable. And as far as I know he was the only one of his nationality, few could even pronounce his name, we called him X.

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« Reply #2476 on: September 13, 2019, 08:06:48 pm »
I just learnerd something interesting about the World Trade Towers investigation:

Q-how long did the FBI conduct this investigation?

Q-did you know that Poppy Bush’s brother Marvin and his cousin Wirt Walker III were both principals in the company in charge of security for the WTC?

Q‐did you know Larry Silverstein signed a $3.2B, 99-year lease on the entire World Trade Center 6 weeks before 9-11?

Q-did you know,  that Empire State building, Lawrence Wien ran an ad in the New York Times in May 1968 predicting that a commercial airliner was likely to fly into the towers?

Q- do you know who revived and spearheaded the building of the World Trade Center?

Q-ever seen the cover of the April 3rd, 1967 issue of  the $0.40 Newsweek magazine?

Remember,  Mueller was, FBI Director, at the time this attack to place!
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« Reply #2477 on: September 14, 2019, 02:21:25 pm »
Pretty sure that just as many women/girls from R families have had abortions as those from D, I, and NPA families proportionately.

German Measle exposure was always a good excuse for those who needed an excuse. Thirteen year old daughters of Baptist preachers for instance.

Elliot Broidy encouraged his centerfold mistress to get an abortion and paid for it of course. That case is currently in court.

Broidy was the RNC deputy finance chair during the 2016/16 and was also involved with Trump sidekick lawyer Michael Cohen. He was also involved with Trump pedo pal George Nader. Small world eh.

Your "Pretty Sure" is pretty-wrong. Your are suggesting, that Planned Parenthood is an equal-opportunity abortionist. On it's politcal face this may appear to be the case. However, in-conception, by practice and in design, PP preys upon black race. This was the entire premise why satanist-Sanger started the organization, in the first place. Today, her vision has evolved into strategically locating PP facilities nearest to poor black/brown communities and actively soliciting bussiness. Statically speaking, over 72% of the babies murdered by PP are black/brown childern.

Therefore, although PP doesn't appear to discriminate, it most certainly does by its results alone, not to mention design and original conception. This will not bode-well with the educated black/brown communities, regarding democratic politicians in the near future. Especially hass PP is dismantled piece by piece by the  Trump's administration.
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« Reply #2478 on: September 14, 2019, 03:31:43 pm »
Your "Pretty Sure" is pretty-wrong. Your are suggesting, that Planned Parenthood is an equal-opportunity abortionist. On it's politcal face this may appear to be the case. However, in-conception, by practice and in design, PP preys upon black race. This was the entire premise why satanist-Sanger started the organization, in the first place. Today, her vision has evolved into strategically locating PP facilities nearest to poor black/brown communities and actively soliciting bussiness. Statically speaking, over 72% of the babies murdered by PP are black/brown childern.

Therefore, although PP doesn't appear to discriminate, it most certainly does by its results alone, not to mention design and original conception. This will not bode-well with the educated black/brown communities, regarding democratic politicians in the near future. Especially hass PP is dismantled piece by piece by the  Trump's administration.
Pretty sure that my post that you responded to did not mention Planned Parenthood or any organization.

So, what's your interest in abortion?  You hit me as male. Am I wrong?

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« Reply #2479 on: September 14, 2019, 03:56:09 pm »
Pretty sure that my post that you responded to did not mention Planned Parenthood or any organization.

So, what's your interest in abortion?  You hit me as male. Am I wrong?

Since PP provides over half the abortions in the US, its by default. You stated:"Pretty sure that just as many women/girls from R families have had abortions as those from D, I, and NPA families proportionately" Don't know what NPA stands for but regarding political affiliation, by statistics alone: liberal minded females abort babies more then their counterparts in conservative female groups. You even added "proportionately" your statement is simply not ture.
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« Reply #2480 on: September 14, 2019, 03:58:02 pm »
In your mind, why does my sex have any bearing on abortion discussion?

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« Reply #2481 on: September 14, 2019, 04:29:40 pm »
Since PP provides over half the abortions in the US, its by default. You stated:"Pretty sure that just as many women/girls from R families have had abortions as those from D, I, and NPA families proportionately" Don't know what NPA stands for but regarding political affiliation, by statistics alone: liberal minded females abort babies more then their counterparts in conservative female groups. You even added "proportionately" your statement is simply not ture.
Your first sentence is a lie__so I stopped reading.

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« Reply #2482 on: September 14, 2019, 04:31:08 pm »
"So, what's your interest in abortion?" It started years ago, a pivotal moment came when a very bad M.D. broadsided my life! Prior to this event, I had no idea the depths of eveilness, deceit and pure corruption that existed, I was a bit gullible.

Before I could drag his wretched-ass before a judge, he was offed. Come to find out over 50 people lined up on his sorry corpse on the courthouse steps! Doing that process I discovered alot things, including more very bad doctor's, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger!

Have you seen this bad doctor?



Privileged doctor's killing 300, 000 babies a year, chopping their remains up and making even  more money,  is sickening, on a good day.
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« Reply #2483 on: September 14, 2019, 04:45:01 pm »
Your first sentence is a lie__so I stopped reading.

I don't blame you; told you already, distancing yourself was a smart move!

 Doesn't change the facts through, others have this proverbial-ball now and its being handled properly. ""This is a historic milestone,” Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham said in a statement Wednesday. "These conservative judicial appointments will impact our nation for years to come." Before those 120,000 Federal sealed Indictments can be executed, in a rapid manor, the judiciary must be made ready...here comes the Judge!

I do believe there's more than a few regarding chopping up human babies for profit!
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