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They're neither "delusional" or "too arrogant" to admit anything. They act no different than the left does: "Who cares how the President acts, our side won".

All this feigned moral outrage from the left or right is just ridiculous.


My personal opinion is that Trump isn't a particularly "great" President, nor is he a really "bad" one. Mediocre across the board, besides on a few pertinent national security issues. The Media and the left pay him too much attention and created half the fiasco of his popularity. The more you and the media hated him, the greater his "moronic" voter base loved him.  All the airtime the media gave him during his Presidential race probably got him 'voted' in, truth be told.




It is his Constitutional right, I'll still presume he is innocent until proven guilty.     Do as you wish, Comrades.

A lot of people are going to jail because of him, the GOP put all their chips behind him because of name recognition hoping it will keep their party visible and reach beyond their base which has been unpopular since GWB after lying to go to Iraq to enrich defense contractors. They were better off with Hillary being prez and they would have been invincible in congress and may have made her a one termer and control of congress for the next ten years but in my opinion they fd up and several are gonna pay the price and it is not the "left's" fault. Sorry but the buck does not pass over Trump, he is to blame and was stupid to run with all the dirt on him and can only pay off to silence people for so long.

Trump will be the biggest disaster to hit this nation and will take a few decades to rebuild what he will have broken by the time he leaves....

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A lot of people are going to jail because of him, the GOP put all their chips behind him because of name recognition hoping it will keep their party visible and reach beyond their base which has been unpopular since GWB after lying to go to Iraq to enrich defense contractors. They were better off with Hillary being prez and they would have been invincible in congress and may have made her a one termer and control of congress for the next ten years but in my opinion they fd up and several are gonna pay the price and it is not the "left's" fault. Sorry but the buck does not pass over Trump, he is to blame and was stupid to run with all the dirt on him and can only pay off to silence people for so long.

Trump will be the biggest disaster to hit this nation and will take a few decades to rebuild what he will have broken by the time he leaves....
Exactly the man is a menace and a traitor to America
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A lot of people are going to jail because of him,...

Trump will be the biggest disaster to hit this nation and will take a few decades to rebuild what he will have broken by the time he leaves....

Statements like this just highlights how big of a "bogeyman" the media has made Trump out to be. With lack of proof, I guess Hysteria can be fun!

A lot of people are going to jail because of their own bad choices. Unless you have proof that they fit under the legal definition of duress, and that Trump indeed forced them to do illegal acts?  Do you?




 
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   "They were better off with Hillary being prez and they would have been invincible in congress and may have made her a one termer and control of congress for the next ten years"     


This reads as if you have a tricked-out DeLorean DMC-12 car.
   
The fact you just claimed  the GOP and the rest of the US by extension would be better off under Hillary, with as much "dirt" she has on her proves my point that group think of "who cares, my side won" and it's feigned moral outrage being laughable at best. Dangerously so.  The same people ready to lynch mob Trump are the same people who sit silent as... how did you put it earlier?  Ah, yes, as "sheep" when Hillary was doing it and are still claiming we'd be better off if she was "Prez".


I used "dirt" in quotations above because I want to use the same standard, proven or not, as you (others) are with Trump . A 'Tit for tat' in all your (others) biased fairness.

 

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  Trump will be the biggest disaster to hit this nation and will take a few decades to rebuild what he will have broken by the time he leaves....     


Can I get a ride in your DeLorean?

Just out of morbid curiosity and if you can manage to form a coherent, grounded reply through the hysterics. Breathe, you only have 20 months to go till the next election.

What has Trump "broke" or will of have had "broken" by the time he leaves office that "will need a few decades to rebuild"?
(I hope I got the grammar correct, Der. These Hollywood style alternative timelines can be so confusing)



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@Joanna, this is where you chime in and start calling people "narrow minded", as per usual, because of their prejudice.


That actually made sense, welcome back to reality


I never left.

The left is just as guilty as the right. You can read this as; the right is just as guilty as the left in it's hypocrisy, if it makes anyone feel better.

Americans are morally, ethically, spiritually bankrupt (call it what you will).  Trump is no different than what Obama was and both are direct reflection of the corruption of the people who voted them in. Nothing has change in DC. Nothing has changed in America. Everyone crying that their "flavor" of corruption is any better than anyone else's is part of the problem. A problem that will never be resolved when we're too busy trying to convince each other it's not.



Here is the crux of it all: How can a people who refuse to hold themselves to the same 'supreme law of the land', divine and/or secular, expect to hold their elected officials to such?   Such a notion is preposterous!


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I say this next part humorously;

Since everyone seems to be signaling they no longer hold confidence in the US Constitution of when somebody is actually guilty, and have resorted to Witch hunt,lynch-mob tactics.   I say we burn it and have a 'Thunder Dome' style trial by combat where the accuser and the accused battle it out in an iron dome, with weapon of choice, to decide guilt.

It would be a hell of a lot more entertaining than what's on Cspan or this threads bias drivel.





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Statements like this just highlights how big of a "bogeyman" the media has made Trump out to be. With lack of proof, I guess Hysteria can be fun!

A lot of people are going to jail because of their own bad choices. Unless you have proof that they fit under the legal definition of duress, and that Trump indeed forced them to do illegal acts?  Do you?




 

This reads as if you have a tricked-out DeLorean DMC-12 car.
   
The fact you just claimed  the GOP and the rest of the US by extension would be better off under Hillary, with as much "dirt" she has on her proves my point that group think of "who cares, my side won" and it's feigned moral outrage being laughable at best. Dangerously so.  The same people ready to lynch mob Trump are the same people who sit silent as... how did you put it earlier?  Ah, yes, as "sheep" when Hillary was doing it and are still claiming we'd be better off if she was "Prez".


I used "dirt" in quotations above because I want to use the same standard, proven or not, as you (others) are with Trump . A 'Tit for tat' in all your (others) biased fairness.

 


Can I get a ride in your DeLorean?

Just out of morbid curiosity and if you can manage to form a coherent, grounded reply through the hysterics. Breathe, you only have 20 months to go till the next election.

What has Trump "broke" or will of have had "broken" by the time he leaves office that "will need a few decades to rebuild"?
(I hope I got the grammar correct, Der. These Hollywood style alternative timelines can be so confusing)



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@Joanna, this is where you chime in and start calling people "narrow minded", as per usual, because of their prejudice.



I never left.

The left is just as guilty as the right. You can read this as; the right is just as guilty as the left in it's hypocrisy, if it makes anyone feel better.

Americans are morally, ethically, spiritually bankrupt (call it what you will).  Trump is no different than what Obama was and both are direct reflection of the corruption of the people who voted them in. Nothing has change in DC. Nothing has changed in America. Everyone crying that their "flavor" of corruption is any better than anyone else's is part of the problem. A problem that will never be resolved when we're too busy trying to convince each other it's not.



Here is the crux of it all: How can a people who refuse to hold themselves to the same 'supreme law of the land', divine and/or secular, expect to hold their elected officials to such?   Such a notion is preposterous!


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I say this next part humorously;

Since everyone seems to be signaling they no longer hold confidence in the US Constitution of when somebody is actually guilty, and have resorted to Witch hunt,lynch-mob tactics.   I say we burn it and have a 'Thunder Dome' style trial by combat where the accuser and the accused battle it out in an iron dome, with weapon of choice, to decide guilt.

It would be a hell of a lot more entertaining than what's on Cspan or this threads bias drivel.
Good idea can we do executions that way, kinda like roman style colusium type of format, heck why not just have complete and total anarchy. America is in the toilet anyway why not just act like the animals we really are. Kinda pretentious of us to act like we are civilized when we have our leaders praising murdereous dictactors and taking their word over Americans
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Statements like this just highlights how big of a "bogeyman" the media has made Trump out to be. With lack of proof, I guess Hysteria can be fun!

A lot of people are going to jail because of their own bad choices. Unless you have proof that they fit under the legal definition of duress, and that Trump indeed forced them to do illegal acts?  Do you?

you are just babbling sementics over substance, that is the biggest problem facing this country is ignorance and will not get better as long as types like you keep repeating stuff like this nonsense. You are a zombie that has no clue what you are talking about and the type like Trump that acccuses other people of your attributes.

This country will pay a price over such ignorance and yes the media plays a role in it, esp those like Fox News..

That crap is why I am semi retired from political discussions and no longer full bore at it. You cannot debate ignorance and I accuse you of trafficking in ignorance and repeating it here...

I would rather discuss with people that knows what they are talking about and not babble. That DQ's yourself from this and looks like you picked the right name to call yourself..

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Good idea can we do executions that way, kinda like roman style colusium type of format, heck why not just have complete and total anarchy. America is in the toilet anyway why not just act like the animals we really are. Kinda pretentious of us to act like we are civilized when we have our leaders praising murdereous dictactors and taking their word over Americans

That is what Trump is going for, anarchy and it is so obvious except to his ignorant fanbase and that is what they are, fans.

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Agree that some just don't want to admit they made a mistake.  Fortunately many in that group will give their vote more thought next time around.

But some of these so called patriots really just hate this country.
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you are just babbling sementics over substance, that is the biggest problem facing this country is ignorance and will not get better as long as types like you keep repeating stuff like this nonsense. You are a zombie that has no clue what you are talking about and the type like Trump that acccuses other people of your attributes.

This country will pay a price over such ignorance and yes the media plays a role in it, esp those like Fox News..

That crap is why I am semi retired from political discussions and no longer full bore at it. You cannot debate ignorance and I accuse you of trafficking in ignorance and repeating it here...

I would rather discuss with people that knows what they are talking about and not babble. That DQ's yourself from this and looks like you picked the right name to call yourself..




Sounds like someone got triggered. That was a fast tap-out, Weepy. Shamefully so.
Probably a record for me. You went from typing well thought out posts to a "I quit and I'm taking my toys home" tantrum all within 1 post.
Just. Wow.


Soon as someone wasn't being a cheerleader to your exact personal thought on the subject, like everyone else posted, you went off full tilt mental regression. Just because you can't handle adult topics, doesn't mean you need to have a hissy fit, or whatever you call this little thing you're trying to do quoted above.


I think your reply shows everyone here what they need to know about your so called claim about actually wanting to discuss anything. You don't.


Now take your toys and run along home. Let the adults talk.

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Now to everyone else.

 As you see class, the example Weepy has delightfully provided for us.  You can call Trump mediocre, his voter base defunct (mostly) of moral standing. But soon as you say the other side is just as guilty of corruption.  That the problem lays in both parties, not just one. (Let's be honest, the left is corrupt as the right) You can see the blind over emotionalized  fury that overcomes anything resembling logic or reasoning. A full decline in all mental abilities. The total and utter bias defense of his political ideologies- regardless of being part of the problem he claims he wants to rectify.

People like this don't actually want to discuss the problem within America, no matter what they claim. All they want is to continue to throw out political rhetoric and party politics as seen above in his/her quoted post. Nothing more. 




Thank you, Weepy for providing me with a perfect example of how people don't actually care about corruption in DC, long as it's their side doing it. Bravo, my good fellow. Bravo!


Good idea can we do executions that way, kinda like roman style colusium type of format, heck why not just have complete and total anarchy. America is in the toilet anyway why not just act like the animals we really are. Kinda pretentious of us to act like we are civilized when we have our leaders praising murdereous dictactors and taking their word over Americans


Well, as seen above from weepy's response. It shouldn't be a real surprise to anyone how and why we have gotten to this point in American history. When we have people like that trading "Republican" corruption for "Democrat" corruption, thinking somehow that's better or even different because "my side".


Even you are not innocent of this. You act surprised that  "we have our leaders praising murdereous dictactors and taking their word over Americans", while you are known to claim that killing 1,000,000 unborn humans in the US is a right.



Like I said above. How can a governed people expect their leaders to uphold any moral virtues, when the people themselves are incapable.


 
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Sounds like someone got triggered. That was a fast tap-out, Weepy. Shamefully so.
Probably a record for me. You went from typing well thought out posts to a "I quit and I'm taking my toys home" tantrum all within 1 post.
Just. Wow.


Soon as someone wasn't being a cheerleader to your exact personal thought on the subject, like everyone else posted, you went off full tilt mental regression. Just because you can't handle adult topics, doesn't mean you need to have a hissy fit, or whatever you call this little thing you're trying to do quoted above.


I think your reply shows everyone here what they need to know about your so called claim about actually wanting to discuss anything. You don't.


Now take your toys and run along home. Let the adults talk.

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Now to everyone else.

 As you see class, the example Weepy has delightfully provided for us.  You can call Trump mediocre, his voter base defunct (mostly) of moral standing. But soon as you say the other side is just as guilty of corruption.  That the problem lays in both parties, not just one. (Let's be honest, the left is corrupt as the right) You can see the blind over emotionalized  fury that overcomes anything resembling logic or reasoning. A full decline in all mental abilities. The total and utter bias defense of his political ideologies- regardless of being part of the problem he claims he wants to rectify.

People like this don't actually want to discuss the problem within America, no matter what they claim. All they want is to continue to throw out political rhetoric and party politics as seen above in his/her quoted post. Nothing more. 




Thank you, Weepy for providing me with a perfect example of how people don't actually care about corruption in DC, long as it's their side doing it. Bravo, my good fellow. Bravo!



Well, as seen above from weepy's response. It shouldn't be a real surprise to anyone how and why we have gotten to this point in American history. When we have people like that trading "Republican" corruption for "Democrat" corruption, thinking somehow that's better or even different because "my side".


Even you are not innocent of this. You act surprised that  "we have our leaders praising murdereous dictactors and taking their word over Americans", while you are known to claim that killing 1,000,000 unborn humans in the US is a right.



Like I said above. How can a governed people expect their leaders to uphold any moral virtues, when the people themselves are incapable.
Bravo for providing a semi interesting diversion , but since you seem to lack basic comprehension skills I have said repeatedly a choice, right has never been what I said ever, and yeah I am surprised that somebody can be such a traitor to America and still be supported, but then again I guess I shouldn't be since most Americans have this self entitled attitude, guess its just not white males after all eh
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Statements like this just highlights how big of a "bogeyman" the media has made Trump out to be. With lack of proof, I guess Hysteria can be fun!

A lot of people are going to jail because of their own bad choices. Unless you have proof that they fit under the legal definition of duress, and that Trump indeed forced them to do illegal acts?  Do you?




 

This reads as if you have a tricked-out DeLorean DMC-12 car.
   
The fact you just claimed  the GOP and the rest of the US by extension would be better off under Hillary, with as much "dirt" she has on her proves my point that group think of "who cares, my side won" and it's feigned moral outrage being laughable at best. Dangerously so.  The same people ready to lynch mob Trump are the same people who sit silent as... how did you put it earlier?  Ah, yes, as "sheep" when Hillary was doing it and are still claiming we'd be better off if she was "Prez".


I used "dirt" in quotations above because I want to use the same standard, proven or not, as you (others) are with Trump . A 'Tit for tat' in all your (others) biased fairness.

 


Can I get a ride in your DeLorean?

Just out of morbid curiosity and if you can manage to form a coherent, grounded reply through the hysterics. Breathe, you only have 20 months to go till the next election.

What has Trump "broke" or will of have had "broken" by the time he leaves office that "will need a few decades to rebuild"?
(I hope I got the grammar correct, Der. These Hollywood style alternative timelines can be so confusing)



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@Joanna, this is where you chime in and start calling people "narrow minded", as per usual, because of their prejudice.



I never left.

The left is just as guilty as the right. You can read this as; the right is just as guilty as the left in it's hypocrisy, if it makes anyone feel better.

Americans are morally, ethically, spiritually bankrupt (call it what you will).  Trump is no different than what Obama was and both are direct reflection of the corruption of the people who voted them in. Nothing has change in DC. Nothing has changed in America. Everyone crying that their "flavor" of corruption is any better than anyone else's is part of the problem. A problem that will never be resolved when we're too busy trying to convince each other it's not.



Here is the crux of it all: How can a people who refuse to hold themselves to the same 'supreme law of the land', divine and/or secular, expect to hold their elected officials to such?   Such a notion is preposterous!


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I say this next part humorously;

Since everyone seems to be signaling they no longer hold confidence in the US Constitution of when somebody is actually guilty, and have resorted to Witch hunt,lynch-mob tactics.   I say we burn it and have a 'Thunder Dome' style trial by combat where the accuser and the accused battle it out in an iron dome, with weapon of choice, to decide guilt.

It would be a hell of a lot more entertaining than what's on Cspan or this threads bias drivel.
Hahaha! Itís obvious how biased your take is on this cause you do no more than pitch the republican spin. Lmao 🤣

Fox News is not doing you any favors, and if you had looked into chicken Trumps background, I donít think youíd be cheering him on like a good little boy. Lmmfao! 😆
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Hahaha! Itís obvious how biased your take is on this cause you do no more than pitch the republican spin. Lmao 🤣

Fox News is not doing you any favors, and if you had looked into chicken Trumps background, I donít think youíd be cheering him on like a good little boy. Lmmfao! 😆
Any time anyone challenges that poster, it claims they have diverted or put a spin on the topic. I think it has had too much koolaid in its life.
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Bravo for providing a semi interesting diversion , but since you seem to lack basic comprehension skills I have said repeatedly a choice, right has never been what I said ever, and yeah I am surprised that somebody can be such a traitor to America and still be supported, but then again I guess I shouldn't be since most Americans have this self entitled attitude, guess its just not white males after all eh

Women being able to have a "choice" to have an abortion is different how, to women having the "right" to be able to choose to have an abortion?


This ought to be good. Unless you are saying the SC got it wrong that abortion is a "right" and should be illegal. But women in general should have a "choice" to do it in back alleyways with a coat hanger?  Joanna, this isn't the 1950's !!!!


Maybe you are right, maybe you been ANTI-LEGAL abortion all this time and it got lost in translation.



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Women being able to have a "choice" to have an abortion is different how, to women having the "right" to be able to choose to have an abortion?


This ought to be good. Unless you are saying the SC got it wrong that abortion is a "right" and should be illegal. But women in general should have a "choice" to do it in back alleyways with a coat hanger?  Joanna, this isn't the 1950's !!!!


Maybe you are right, maybe you been ANTI-LEGAL abortion all this time and it got lost in translation.
It shouldn't even be a political issue but yet I guess its important for you to argue the semantics of word meanings, but in order for anybody to have a choice the right comes first, they have nothing to do with each other so calm down, you still get your guns
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It shouldn't even be a political issue but yet I guess its important for you to argue the semantics of word meanings, but in order for anybody to have a choice the right comes first, they have nothing to do with each other so calm down, you still get your guns

Asking what you mean by the word "choice" is not arguing anything. I mean, you are known to be a Mrs. Webster using word definitions verbatim. It get's especially confusing when the words are used interchangeably in the common tongue, outside of your strict personal use parameters. You're the only person I know who does this.  To ask what you mean, to clarify it's usage going forward so I can communicate understandably according to your dialect is to be expected from time to time. But to ask for clarification, as you so fervently pointed out in the first place the different word meanings (semantics), is not the same as arguing it's meaning.

Project much?


 















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Asking what you mean by the word "choice" is not arguing anything. I mean, you are known to be a Mrs. Webster using word definitions verbatim. It get's especially confusing when the words are used interchangeably in the common tongue, outside of your strict personal use parameters. You're the only person I know who does this.  To ask what you mean, to clarify it's usage going forward so I can communicate understandably according to your dialect is to be expected from time to time. But to ask for clarification, as you so fervently pointed out in the first place the different word meanings (semantics), is not the same as arguing it's meaning.

Project much?
You are smart enough to know there is a difference between choice and right ffs, I don't feel it was necessary to point that out to you, you understand what I mean so why try to argue about word choices, you keep assuming I think its a right for woman to have a say in what happens with their bodies, if it was a right wouldn't it be called freedom of right as opposed to freedom of choice, call it whatever you want the government shouldn't be involved
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You are smart enough to know there is a difference between choice and right ffs, I don't feel it was necessary to point that out to you, you understand what I mean so why try to argue about word choices, you keep assuming I think its a right for woman to have a say in what happens with their bodies, if it was a right wouldn't it be called freedom of right as opposed to freedom of choice, call it whatever you want the government shouldn't be involved


Tells someone wrongly to stop arguing semantics, while arguing semantics themselves. 

You can't make this level of insanity up, people. You just can't.   

I said a word used synonymous in the common tongue with the other. Again, you're the one making a big fuss that they are different and arguing their meaning (semantics). 

Go take your pills.

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