Author Topic: Agriculture Department suspends data collection for honeybees after Trump budget cuts  (Read 522 times)

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A lot of Trump hysteria in here.

1: It's temporary. (Article reads like it might only be for 1 quarter)
2: Bee's are not all of a sudden going to die because this governmental data collection point stops collecting data. For one, the data collection isn't stopped (See #3)
3: Is this data not collected by alternative collection points? A quick google search has netted some good results (seems like beekeepers would know this already).
4: Reread 1-3 until the hysteria subsides.

I will have to agree with others on the over usage of chemicals along with farmland, population growth and other factors having a detriment to bee populations. I have also noticed a decline in  fireflies and butterflies over the last 30 years, so it's just not the bee's that are being affected.















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3: Is this data not collected by alternative collection points? A quick google search has netted some good results (seems like beekeepers would know this already).

This is why I mentioned beekeepers being an invested lot.  Much of what is known about honeybees and their habits is learned through observation by beekeepers themselves.
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My daughter's father in law is a blueberry farmer. He has to hire beekeepers to pollinate his fields. He blames pesticides for the decline of the bee population. 

At the same time, there are people who claim there is no decline. There must be something to it because he has to hire beekeepers.

I guess studies do show a decline, but some studies are exaggerated. Gotta know the difference between true and false studies. Real live proof should solve this problem.

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I guess studies do show a decline, but some studies are exaggerated. Gotta know the difference between true and false studies. Real live proof should solve this problem.

I guess this is why we need Lawyers, to get to the truth, even when they lie lol.

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No, but really lawyers do help like in hospital suits. For example, like when things go wrong, like leaving intruments in people's bodies after an operation. OOps I forgot. maybe some Dr's have Elzheimers disease or something.

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No, but really lawyers do help like in hospital suits. For example, like when things go wrong, like leaving intruments in people's bodies after an operation. OOps I forgot. maybe some Dr's have Elzheimers disease or something.
No, doctors rely on techs and nurses to tell him or her about the instruments in my opinion.
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No, doctors rely on techs and nurses to tell him or her about the instruments in my opinion.

Whoever forgets, it's mot a good thing and the Hospital needs to be sued. I would think a Dr. has a big role in this, and the hospital.

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Whoever forgets, it's mot a good thing and the Hospital needs to be sued. I would think a Dr. has a big role in this, and the hospital.
Most hospitals probably can't be sued but doctor's can, of course,  that is why they pay such a high cost in malpractice insurance to keep.cases out of the court system. In some cases it is why they make you sign forms that you can't sue them.
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Most hospitals probably can't be sued but doctor's can, of course,  that is why they pay such a high cost in malpractice insurance to keep.cases out of the court system. In some cases it is why they make you sign forms that you can't sue them.

Doesn't sound fair, why should hospitals get off?  Maybe the health industry would be better if this didn't go on?

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Doesn't sound fair, why should hospitals get off?  Maybe the health industry would be better if this didn't go on?
I didn't say all hospitals but if you think about a hospital is just a building that the doctors use. Same as a courthouse or a school.
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I didn't say all hospitals but if you think about a hospital is just a building that the doctors use. Same as a courthouse or a school.

Schools get sued, I don't know about courthouses.

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Schools get sued, I don't know about courthouses.
It really does no good to sue schools. Schools can't be sued for simple negligence and one  has to prove that it is negligent in other areas which can be hard to prove. Courthouses are immune from lawsuits at least in some states.
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It really does no good to sue schools. Schools can't be sued for simple negligence and one  has to prove that it is negligent in other areas which can be hard to prove. Courthouses are immune from lawsuits at least in some states.

I give up on this conversation.