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My post outlined the timeline silly. None of that sht was manufactured it all fell between true and rumored and even the golden shower stuff was never debunked.

US politics is dirty business and at it's highest levels obscene, throw in a known scoundrel, money launderer, tax cheat and con man like Donald Trump and you've got a recipe for disaster.

Hillary's e-mails are the stuff of fiction__get a frikken life pal.

Right. I guess USA Today is another right-wing news outlet.

Seriously? Golden showers.? The man is a germaphobe. He went off on one of his cabinet members for coughing in the oval office.  You're really gullible.

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My post outlined the timeline silly. None of that sht was manufactured it all fell between true and rumored and even the golden shower stuff was never debunked.

How about you prove you have never had a golden shower?  You can't unless you have an authenticated video recording of your entire life.

Have you ever heard of Russell's teapot:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot

Bertrand Russell "wrote that if he were to assert, without offering proof, that a teapot, too small to be seen by telescopes, orbits the Sun somewhere in space between the Earth and Mars, he could not expect anyone to believe him solely because his assertion could not be proven wrong."

You see, you can't prove their isn't a tiny teapot orbiting the he sun between earth and mars any more than Trump can prove he didn't have a golden shower.  The fact that neither of you can disprove these things has zero probative value and does not in any way suggest there is such a tea pot or that Trump had a golden shower.

Remember Russell's teapot in the future and it will make you a better debater. 

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Right. I guess USA Today is another right-wing news outlet.

Seriously? Golden showers.? The man is a germaphobe. He went off on one of his cabinet members for coughing in the oval office.  You're really gullible.

You don't even need to get into him being a germaphobe. That's like arguin our teliscooes are so advanced we'd surely see such a teapot if it existed.  If someone is gonna say such a teapot exists or someone had a golden shower, they need to prove it ... you don't have to disprove it in any way.  It's a losing argument to try and make people prove a negative.

Prove King Kong didn't exist at some point in time?  You can't.  That you can't doesn't remotely suggest that he must have existed or was likely to have

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^^^ See?  They will say anything, tell any lie, even destroy their own cred, in pathetically desperate attempts to derail a thread about how republican badly behave.

This one has likely been to the right wing classes or the webinars that teach these propaganda tactics.

What lies did I say?  C'mon be specific and use facts to support your contentions and don't do Russell's teapot shyte like your friend.  :)
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"...As their 9/11 chicanery makes clear, North Carolina Republicans are some of the worst bad-faith actors in the nation. The Republican-led state legislature led an unprecedented effort to strip Cooper of his powers before he even took office, after an election in which the GOP lost its supermajority in the House and Senate. That was a particularly anti-democratic move, but it is hardly unique to the Tar Heel State.

It’s a replica of efforts by Republicans in Wisconsin in the aftermath of former Gov. Scott Walker’s 2018 defeat, when they attempted to remove Gov.-elect Tony Evers' power to approve major actions by the attorney general and hand that authority instead to Republican lawmakers. Republicans in Michigan also suddenly wanted to limit the incoming governor's power after Democrats swept every statewide office in last year’s midterms.

In Florida, when voters overwhelmingly voted to restore voting rights to 1.4 million former convicted felons, Republican lawmakers circumvented the will of the people with a bill that effectively blocked most of them all over again.

And when Republicans didn’t change the rules in response to recent Democratic electoral victories, they ran away and brought the government to a standstill. Republican senators in Oregon fled the state to prevent Democrats from voting on an expansive cap-and-trade bill to limit greenhouse gas emissions earlier this year.

Throughout the country — such as in Tennessee, which has one of the lowest voter turnout rates in the country — Republicans have tried to block electoral change by imposing egregious restrictions on voter registration drives.

David Frum told us years ago that if conservatives can’t win at the ballot box, they won’t abandon conservatism — they will abandon democracy. Their calls for civility are actually demands for servility. ..."
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"...As their 9/11 chicanery makes clear, North Carolina Republicans are some of the worst bad-faith actors in the nation. The Republican-led state legislature led an unprecedented effort to strip Cooper of his powers before he even took office, after an election in which the GOP lost its supermajority in the House and Senate. That was a particularly anti-democratic move, but it is hardly unique to the Tar Heel State.

It’s a replica of efforts by Republicans in Wisconsin in the aftermath of former Gov. Scott Walker’s 2018 defeat, when they attempted to remove Gov.-elect Tony Evers' power to approve major actions by the attorney general and hand that authority instead to Republican lawmakers. Republicans in Michigan also suddenly wanted to limit the incoming governor's power after Democrats swept every statewide office in last year’s midterms.

In Florida, when voters overwhelmingly voted to restore voting rights to 1.4 million former convicted felons, Republican lawmakers circumvented the will of the people with a bill that effectively blocked most of them all over again.

And when Republicans didn’t change the rules in response to recent Democratic electoral victories, they ran away and brought the government to a standstill. Republican senators in Oregon fled the state to prevent Democrats from voting on an expansive cap-and-trade bill to limit greenhouse gas emissions earlier this year.

Throughout the country — such as in Tennessee, which has one of the lowest voter turnout rates in the country — Republicans have tried to block electoral change by imposing egregious restrictions on voter registration drives.

David Frum told us years ago that if conservatives can’t win at the ballot box, they won’t abandon conservatism — they will abandon democracy. Their calls for civility are actually demands for servility. ..."

You keep throwing the word democracy out there. We are not a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. We were founded on a federalist system.

The problem with your kind of democracy. The tyranny of the majority.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

Sometimes I feel the left is purposely trying to collapse a great country.
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You keep throwing the word democracy out there. We are not a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. We were founded on a federalist system.

The problem with your kind of democracy. The tyranny of the majority.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

Sometimes I feel the left is purposely trying to collapse a great country.

That was the best you could do for a reply?  Would have been better for you if you had said nothing.
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That was the best you could do for a reply?  Would have been better for you if you had said nothing.

Your brand of democracy evolves into servility of a dependent public. The needs of the state override the needs of an independent individual. That quote of yours is erroneous.

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"...As their 9/11 chicanery makes clear, North Carolina Republicans are some of the worst bad-faith actors in the nation. The Republican-led state legislature led an unprecedented effort to strip Cooper of his powers before he even took office, after an election in which the GOP lost its supermajority in the House and Senate. That was a particularly anti-democratic move, but it is hardly unique to the Tar Heel State.

It’s a replica of efforts by Republicans in Wisconsin in the aftermath of former Gov. Scott Walker’s 2018 defeat, when they attempted to remove Gov.-elect Tony Evers' power to approve major actions by the attorney general and hand that authority instead to Republican lawmakers. Republicans in Michigan also suddenly wanted to limit the incoming governor's power after Democrats swept every statewide office in last year’s midterms.

In Florida, when voters overwhelmingly voted to restore voting rights to 1.4 million former convicted felons, Republican lawmakers circumvented the will of the people with a bill that effectively blocked most of them all over again.

And when Republicans didn’t change the rules in response to recent Democratic electoral victories, they ran away and brought the government to a standstill. Republican senators in Oregon fled the state to prevent Democrats from voting on an expansive cap-and-trade bill to limit greenhouse gas emissions earlier this year.

Throughout the country — such as in Tennessee, which has one of the lowest voter turnout rates in the country — Republicans have tried to block electoral change by imposing egregious restrictions on voter registration drives.

David Frum told us years ago that if conservatives can’t win at the ballot box, they won’t abandon conservatism — they will abandon democracy. Their calls for civility are actually demands for servility. ..."

The liberal plan to win elections is to flood America with people from dumpy countries and hope they elect awful leaders like they do back home.  I've heard so many liberals cheer that white people will be a minority so America can be controlled by the same people who control Latin America, Africa, and the Muslim world, with similar results. They aren't racist, tho ... just ask them. 

 America's future will be South Africa 2.0.  The ones who will suffer the most won't be white people either, just like the ones who suffer the most in South Africa today and Brazil, which is incredibly diverse, aren't white people. 

There isn't much of a difference between AOC's views and Hugo Chavez's, which worked out so well for Venezuela.  Our only saving grace might be the 2nd amendment.

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The liberal plan to win elections is to flood America with people from dumpy countries and hope they elect awful leaders like they do back home.  I've heard so many liberals cheer that white people will be a minority so America can be controlled by the same people who control Latin America, Africa, and the Muslim world, with similar results. They aren't racist, tho ... just ask them. 

 America's future will be South Africa 2.0.  The ones who will suffer the most won't be white people either, just like the ones who suffer the most in South Africa today and Brazil, which is incredibly diverse, aren't white people. 

There isn't much of a difference between AOC's views and Hugo Chavez's, which worked out so well for Venezuela.  Our only saving grace might be the 2nd amendment.

Not only their home countries but cities like Detroit that are run by non-white people and communities where white folks don't live, like the south side of Chicago, are just so nice and wonderful and vibrant, with shop keepers that sit behind bullet proof glass, it really makes no sense to think when that's the norm that America will be stronger.

Try living in the real world and observing it for what it is, even if you don't like what it is, for once.

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Not only their home countries but cities like Detroit that are run by non-white people and communities where white folks don't live, like the south side of Chicago, are just so nice and wonderful and vibrant, with shop keepers that sit behind bullet proof glass, it really makes no sense to think when that's the norm that America will be stronger.

Try living in the real world and observing it for what it is, even if you don't like what it is, for once.

Democrats will win lots of elections, but much like the California and many urban areas where democrats control all the power, it doesn't improve the lives of minorities.  All of Africa and Latin America are run by the same groups who are minorities in America.  They even have elections in a lot of these nations and have for a long time.  Guess what it doesn't improve their lives.  They live in slums and squalor.

So there is actual no causal proof that cities or nations run by minorities benefits minorities or make their lives better than when they are not in control.  In fact the opposite is the case.  That's why they all want to come to nation's founded by Europeans. 

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You can say I'm racist or whatever, but racism involves animosity just cause of a physical trait, like race or skin color.  When you point out the results a particular group produces, that's results and behavior based and that's not racism. There are 33 Latin America countries and not 1 is a first world nation.  The other two countries founded by Europeans in this hemisphere are, and Canada is mostly a frozen wasteland.  Now if Latin Americans had a perfect rate of making 1st world nations in this hemisphere as Europeans have and for some reason I said they elect bad leaders and make not so nice countries and don't govern counties well, then it suggests I'm racist.  Speaking the truth is just that and not racism.

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This notion that everybody is equal, is a complete lie.
 If we were all equal the NBA would be 13 percent black. If you point that out, no one accuses you of racism.

If we were all equal, Latinos wouldn't be 0 for 33 at making one 1st world nation in the same hemisphere Europeans are 2 for 2.  If you say that you are racist. 

Sorry we are all equal is not mathematically possible.  I have real world mathematically conclusive observations that prove what I say is true, all liberals have is wishful thinking and excuses.

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Your brand of democracy evolves into servility of a dependent public. The needs of the state override the needs of an independent individual. That quote of yours is erroneous.

More gibbering nonsense.
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