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Give me a business making me 10 million a year in profit and I'd rule the world.

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Give me a business making me 10 million a year in profit and I'd rule the world.

If you have that kind of money coming in every year you can take just one years worth of ten million and invest it conservatively and get an average 6 percent return and have 600k every year to invest in start ups.  Then every other year you can do whatever you want with the ten million. ... blow it on h00kers and c0ke ... whatever.  Of that 600k you are investing in businesses maybe most fail, but enough will succeed that even if you are blowing that 10 million you make, you will start making even more than 10 million a year from the new business ventures that succes.  Now say you still just keep living only off of that 10 million and you keep rolling all the profits from your newly invested businesses into even more businesses such that you are investing even more than 600k every year in new businesses and you eventually get to the point t where in 30-40 years you can accumulate a massive fortune.  You don't even have to be good af picking new business to invest in.  Just don't be terrible and you gotta hit upon success so often.  It's pretty easy once you get enough money if you understand the rules of the game and have some discipline and can handle that sort of money with responsibility.

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It wasn't manufactured, it was in plain sight and the term collusion has become a Trumpism__meaningless. And recall Fusion GPS was initially employed by a Republican never Trumper (Washington Free Beacon) that stopped  his funding after Trump won the nomination

"In September 2015, Fusion GPS was hired by The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative political website, to do opposition research on Trump and other Republican presidential candidates. In spring 2016 when Trump had emerged as the probable Republican candidate, the Free Beacon stopped funding investigation into Trump.[28] From April 2016 through October 2016, the law firm Perkins Coie, on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee, retained Fusion GPS to continue opposition research on Trump.[29][30][31] In June 2016, Fusion GPS retained Christopher Steele, a private British corporate intelligence investigator and former MI-6 agent, to research any Russian connections to Trump. Steele produced a 35-page series of memos from June to December 2016, which became the document known as the Donald Trump–Russia dossier.[29][32] Fusion GPS provided Marc Elias, the lead election lawyer for Perkins Coie, with the resulting dossier and other research documents.[30][31]"

Too bad no one took Trump to task during the R primaries, there was plenty too talk about. Trump, who was fined 10 million dollars for knowingly laundering Russian mob money in his casinos and had been visiting Russia since 1987 claimed that he had no involvement with Russia beyond the beauty pageant. It was all lies, Trump survived his numerous financial misfires only because he was being propped up by Russians.

But you live in a world where Bill got a bj,  Hillary destroyed a blackberry and Obama wore a tan suit.

Your first sentence is correct. Except no information was gained at that time and, as you said, the Republicans backed off when Trump won the primary. The DNC, however, hired Fusion afterward. The information gained at that time came from a dossier provided by Christopher Steele. Manufactured wrongdoing. The FBI allegedly used this Bull s**t information to apply for a FISA search warrant.

Actually, Hillary did destroy congressional subpoenaed e-mails. Could you even begin to imagine if that was the Trump campaign? That equal justice for all crap went right out of the window.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/06/15/inspector-general-report-clinton-emails-secrecy-column/704890002/
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If you have that kind of money coming in every year you can take just one years worth of ten million and invest it conservatively and get an average 6 percent return and have 600k every year to invest in start ups.  Then every other year you can do whatever you want with the ten million. ... blow it on h00kers and c0ke ... whatever.  Of that 600k you are investing in businesses maybe most fail, but enough will succeed that even if you are blowing that 10 million you make, you will start making even more than 10 million a year from the new business ventures that succes.  Now say you still just keep living only off of that 10 million and you keep rolling all the profits from your newly invested businesses into even more businesses such that you are investing even more than 600k every year in new businesses and you eventually get to the point t where in 30-40 years you can accumulate a massive fortune.  You don't even have to be good af picking new business to invest in.  Just don't be terrible and you gotta hit upon success so often.  It's pretty easy once you get enough money if you understand the rules of the game and have some discipline and can handle that sort of money with responsibility.

Even with a 5 percent return you are gonna do great with that seed fund.

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It wasn't manufactured, it was in plain sight and the term collusion has become a Trumpism__meaningless. And recall Fusion GPS was initially employed by a Republican never Trumper (Washington Free Beacon) that stopped  his funding after Trump won the nomination

"In September 2015, Fusion GPS was hired by The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative political website, to do opposition research on Trump and other Republican presidential candidates. In spring 2016 when Trump had emerged as the probable Republican candidate, the Free Beacon stopped funding investigation into Trump.[28] From April 2016 through October 2016, the law firm Perkins Coie, on behalf of the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee, retained Fusion GPS to continue opposition research on Trump.[29][30][31] In June 2016, Fusion GPS retained Christopher Steele, a private British corporate intelligence investigator and former MI-6 agent, to research any Russian connections to Trump. Steele produced a 35-page series of memos from June to December 2016, which became the document known as the Donald Trump–Russia dossier.[29][32] Fusion GPS provided Marc Elias, the lead election lawyer for Perkins Coie, with the resulting dossier and other research documents.[30][31]"

Too bad no one took Trump to task during the R primaries, there was plenty too talk about. Trump, who was fined 10 million dollars for knowingly laundering Russian mob money in his casinos and had been visiting Russia since 1987 claimed that he had no involvement with Russia beyond the beauty pageant. It was all lies, Trump survived his numerous financial misfires only because he was being propped up by Russians.

But you live in a world where Bill got a bj,  Hillary destroyed a blackberry and Obama wore a tan suit.

BTW, what the Trump Taj Mahal was fined for was failing to maintain an AML program required by The Financial Crimes Enforcement Act. Someone would be in jail if money laundering was discovered. Since when does money laundering end up with a civil fine?

https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-fines-trump-taj-mahal-casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long

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Your first sentence is correct. Except no information was gained at that time and, as you said, the Republicans backed off when Trump won the primary. The DNC, however, hired Fusion afterward. The information gained at that time came from a dossier provided by Christopher Steele. Manufactured wrongdoing. The FBI allegedly used this Bull s**t information to apply for a FISA search warrant.

Actually, Hillary did destroy congressional subpoenaed e-mails. Could you even begin to imagine if that was the Trump campaign? That equal justice for all crap went right out of the window.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/06/15/inspector-general-report-clinton-emails-secrecy-column/704890002/
My post outlined the timeline silly. None of that sht was manufactured it all fell between true and rumored and even the golden shower stuff was never debunked.

US politics is dirty business and at it's highest levels obscene, throw in a known scoundrel, money launderer, tax cheat and con man like Donald Trump and you've got a recipe for disaster.

Hillary's e-mails are the stuff of fiction__get a frikken life pal.

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BTW, what the Trump Taj Mahal was fined for was failing to maintain an AML program required by The Financial Crimes Enforcement Act. Someone would be in jail if money laundering was discovered. Since when does money laundering end up with a civil fine?

https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-fines-trump-taj-mahal-casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long
People were in jail__Trump was a willing accomplice. BTW the Taj Mahal was Trump's all the way__no corporate curtain to hide behind at that point.

Many of the condo's in Trump Tower and other Trump owned properties are empty, no carpet even, no appliances, owned and passed back and forth by shell companies as a way of moving money around with the end goal of making it legit aka money laundering. Trump is not alone in these schemes, dozens if not hundreds of developers are cowtowing to Russian's and certain others in similar fashion. Trump however was extremely needy and therefore vulnerable.

https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

I know you won't read it and that even if you did you wouldn't understand it leading to your going with Sean Hannity a former carpenter and disc jockey.
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Interesting how with just one oft repeated zombie lie, and brainless whataboutism, out little right wing guest had manged to spin this thread so far off the uncomfortable topic of the complete lack of morals and the out right pissing on the memories of 911 victims that anyone reading past the second page would have not idea what it is about.

This is the same old tired game internet republican trolls have played since chat boards became a thing.


"...However, the morning of September 11 offered him an unusual opportunity. Many Democrats would want to attend some kind of memorial or remembrance event of the terrible terrorist attacks of 9/11/2001. Sensing that this might give Speaker Moore the opportunity he’d been looking for, the House Minority Leader Darren Jackson sought assurances that no votes would be held before noon on Wednesday. He inquired with the presiding officer Rep. David Lewis, and he received that assurance.

Yet, as soon as the Democrats were otherwise occupied, the House quickly brought the budget veto override bill up for a vote and passed it. In doing so, they relied on deceit and disrespected all those who died or suffered as a result of the 9/11 attacks. They achieved an outcome through undemocratic means. And they obviously care more about that outcome, denying the working poor access to health care, than any political fallout that might result...."

"...I think it’s time to look to the North Carlolina GOP as a kind of worst-possible-case example of where the national party is headed. Nowhere else have I found the Republicans to be more conniving, vindictive, undemocratic and downright criminal. Wednesday provided the latest appalling example...."
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My post outlined the timeline silly. None of that sht was manufactured it all fell between true and rumored and even the golden shower stuff was never debunked.

US politics is dirty business and at it's highest levels obscene, throw in a known scoundrel, money launderer, tax cheat and con man like Donald Trump and you've got a recipe for disaster.

Hillary's e-mails are the stuff of fiction__get a frikken life pal.

"US politics is dirty business and at it's highest levels obscene, throw in a known scoundrel, money launderer, tax cheat and con man like Donald Trump and you've got a recipe for disaster."

I couldn't agree more.

I can only wish that people as a whole i.e. Everyone On Both Sides would accept that fact.
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Hillary's e-mails are the stuff of fiction__get a frikken life pal.

Wrong even CNN has admitted that FBI Agent Strzok changed Comey's Clinton language from "Grossly Negligent" To "Extremely Careless.

The reason why he did that is the prima facie elements for conviction for mishandling classified material under federal law includes and requires proof of  "gross negligence."  So by changing "gross negligence" to "extremely careless" the POS was getting Clinton off the hook and he knew it.

She should have been charged and I guarantee you anyone else would have been charged if they behaved like her.  She met all the elements for conviction and the reported stated as much until Strzok changes the words to get her off.

These are days and they can't be denied.  No lawyer would tell you otherwise.  You don't have to like it but unless you have some evidence
what I say isn't true, you are just spewing lies and misinformation. The record is clearly established on this.
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"US politics is dirty business and at it's highest levels obscene, throw in a known scoundrel, money launderer, tax cheat and con man like Donald Trump and you've got a recipe for disaster."

I couldn't agree more.

I can only wish that people as a whole i.e. Everyone On Both Sides would accept that fact.

His policies for the most part are in America's best interest.  If you want to argue policy using facts and reason I'll be more than happy to.
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His policies for the most part are in America's best interest.  If you want to argue policy using facts and reason I'll be more than happy to.
His polices suck from the increasing deficit (that will bankrupt us) to the rolling back of the EPA to his nonstop love of America's adversaries all the while dismissing what made America Great to begin with.

You have no argument that could possibly interest me.
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Meanwhile Strzok and Lisa Page are texing back and forth:

One day via text, they was debating whether they should stay with the FBI and try to rise through the ranks to the level of an assistant director (AD) or join Mueller's special counsel team.

"Who gives a f*ck, one more AD like [redacted] or whoever?" Strzok wrote, weighing the merits of promotion, before apparently suggesting what would be a more attractive role: "An investigation leading to impeachment?"

Lisa Page apparently realized the conversation had gone too far and tried to reel it in. "We should stop having this conversation here," she texted back, adding later it was important to examine "the different realistic outcomes of this case."

A few minutes later Strzok texted his own handicap of the Russia evidence: "You and I both know the odds are nothing. If I thought it was likely, I'd be there no question. I hesitate in part because of my gut sense and concern there's no big there there."

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This was all before the trump investigation was launched.  They knew there was nothing.

Also When Lisa said we should stop the conversation here, it's cause she knew the stuff they were talking about was wrong and it was foolish to text about it and have a written record of it.  I can only imagine what was said between those two in private verbally.

The record is pretty conclusive.  They went soft on Clinton and all out to get trump.

All this stuff is documented and in transcripts and backed up by testimony.  It can't be denied, well
only through lies and misinformation.

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His polices suck from the increasing deficit (that will bankrupt us) to the rolling back of the EPA to his nonstop love of America's adversaries all the while dismissing what made America Great to begin with.

You have no argument that could possibly interest me.

Obama increased the deficit by more than he will and he didn't cut taxes.

I don't like the EPA and environmental stuff.  I'll agree with you on that.

I approve of his approach on North Korea.  Past policy wasn't working at all. We needed to try a new approaches. At least there had been no more testing of nukes. 

I think the whole Russia phobia stuff is completely overblown.  They are a shell of the Soviet Union.  They have been punished for taking the Crimea.  Pretty sure they aren't gonna give it back ever. So I think the right thing to do is punish them with sanctions but work with them where we can. 

Russia isn't the great.  China is and look at how soft Obama was on them.  They promised they wouldn't militarize then and then promptly did and what did Obama do?  Nothing.  What did Obama do with them on trade?  Nothing.  What do you think a dem will do if they were or become president?  Nothing and they will apologize for us not continuing to let them screw us over and they will apologize for Trump trying to get them to change.  China won't ever change if you just keep asking nicely.

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Obama increased the deficit by more than he will and he didn't cut taxes.

I don't like the EPA and environmental stuff.  I'll agree with you on that.

I approve of his approach on North Korea.  Past policy wasn't working at all. We needed to try a new approaches. At least there had been no more testing of nukes. 

I think the whole Russia phobia stuff is completely overblown.  They are a shell of the Soviet Union.  They have been punished for taking the Crimea.  Pretty sure they aren't gonna give it back ever. So I think the right thing to do is punish them with sanctions but work with them where we can. 

Russia isn't the great.  China is and look at how soft Obama was on them.  They promised they wouldn't militarize then and then promptly did and what did Obama do?  Nothing.  What did Obama do with them on trade?  Nothing.  What do you think a dem will do if they were or become president?  Nothing and they will apologize for us not continuing to let them screw us over and they will apologize for Trump trying to get them to change.  China won't ever change if you just keep asking nicely.

Russia isn't the threat, I meant.  China is.  Yet the media and dems are pulling for them in the trade war just cause they don't want trump to do anything good for the country.  They'd rather China keep not reciprocating on free trade and keep stealing technology and forcing technology transfers, than for Trump to stop it.

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China promised they wouldn't militarize their fake islands.  Then they did so on Obama's watch and he did nothing!  Didn't even say anything about it.  He probably apologized to the Chinese in private.

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^^^ See?  They will say anything, tell any lie, even destroy their own cred, in pathetically desperate attempts to derail a thread about how republican badly behave.

This one has likely been to the right wing classes or the webinars that teach these propaganda tactics.
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People were in jail__Trump was a willing accomplice. BTW the Taj Mahal was Trump's all the way__no corporate curtain to hide behind at that point.

Many of the condo's in Trump Tower and other Trump owned properties are empty, no carpet even, no appliances, owned and passed back and forth by shell companies as a way of moving money around with the end goal of making it legit aka money laundering. Trump is not alone in these schemes, dozens if not hundreds of developers are cowtowing to Russian's and certain others in similar fashion. Trump however was extremely needy and therefore vulnerable.

https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

I know you won't read it and that even if you did you wouldn't understand it leading to your going with Sean Hannity a former carpenter and disc jockey.

The New Republic? smh

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-republic/

You ead that rag and coplain about RT.