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Title: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 01, 2019, 11:33:32 pm
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pducRLyDmiY

Very informing video about America's Infrastructure Crises.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 02, 2019, 12:45:19 pm
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pducRLyDmiY

Very informing video about America's Infrastructure Crises.
That even this president does nothing about.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 02, 2019, 01:00:43 pm
That even this president does nothing about.

Infrastructure is on top of his list, I didn't do the research on how he is approaching this, but I heard him time and time again on his debates and speeches that Infrastructure is a main priority.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Doobie on June 03, 2019, 01:23:02 pm
Failed Congress and Senate Over The Past Two Decades Has Done Nothing Either Party Except Fill Their Pockets.....

Our Poor Poor Infrastructure
Our Poor Poor Border Security
Oue Poor Healthcare.....Socialism, Medicare For All Is NOT The Solution America Needs For Healthcare
Trade Deals Over The Years We Have Given America Away, Under The Idiots In Washington
Paris Accord Deal Was funded 80% by America, and they build multi-Billion Dollar Establishments With the Money, Congress & Senate wanted to keep sending more
Obama/Biden built the cages that separated families at the border and people tried blaming that on Trump
Democrats regained the house (Congress) nothing accomplished yet, except trying to get rid of Trump why NOT try and work together to Make America Great Again
No matter where people stand on abortion.....after the birth is not the time to keep the baby comfortable until the mother decides..... That Is Murder

Trump's been in politics for 2 1/2 years and now everything is his fault???? It's these career politicians who has let America Go To Po (BOTH PARTIES)

Just A Thought
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: fish-sticks on June 03, 2019, 03:45:51 pm
Well said Doobie
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 03, 2019, 04:32:12 pm
This belongs in the current events forum instead of here...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 03, 2019, 05:59:29 pm
Recall that just last week Trump walked out of an infrastructure meeting wih Pelosi and Shumer and directly to the Rose Garden where he held a, cough, spontaneous press conference regarding Mueller complete with preprinted placards an handwritten notes.

He has no plan for infrastructure__can't be bothered by the ho hum stuff.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 03, 2019, 06:25:26 pm
Recall that just last week Trump walked out of an infrastructure meeting wih Pelosi and Shumer and directly to the Rose Garden where he held a, cough, spontaneous press conference regarding Mueller complete with preprinted placards an handwritten notes.

He has no plan for infrastructure__can't be bothered by the ho hum stuff.

True. The punks in the GOP went lockstep aginst Obama around 2012 when he called for a sensible plan and to put veterns to work on restoring infrastucture and get their sheep to blame Obama for all their shortcomings as they are bought and paid for. Obama was hated by these people for made up reasons, he was a good and ok president and history will prove that, he did care about the health care issue, GOP politicians do not because they cannot relate to the actual working person in this country and many of them were born with a silver spoon in their mouth and went to private schools where they would never mingle with the other races....

The GOP is against fixing infrastructure, they want to give rich people tax breaks, increase the chances of war for profit and use wedge issues like abortion to spook the herd. Abortions are not happening as regularly as these clowns want you to think, the goal is to get the woman to stay at home and have 13 kids just like "the good ol days" which is code for bigotry.

Many preachers and politicians that are "pro- life" will get abortions for their mistresses to hide infidelity in a second. Poor people rarely gets abortions because they cannot afford it. It is a scam... It us about keeping women in the home and trying to make tons of babies to fight their future made up wars when they grow up...


The GOP is bought by the NRA and cannot issue common sense laws because it hurts profits for gun manufacturers and bullets, etc, they do not care who dies, it is all about greenbacks and pretend to " love the country" hiding behind the flag using boring platitudes and cliches with words like "liberty"and "patriotism" into the ground..

That group of politicians is a disgrace. That is my $0.02 for the day...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 04, 2019, 09:00:59 am
True. The punks in the GOP went lockstep aginst Obama around 2012 when he called for a sensible plan and to put veterns to work on restoring infrastucture and get their sheep to blame Obama for all their shortcomings as they are bought and paid for. Obama was hated by these people for made up reasons, he was a good and ok president and history will prove that, he did care about the health care issue, GOP politicians do not because they cannot relate to the actual working person in this country and many of them were born with a silver spoon in their mouth and went to private schools where they would never mingle with the other races....

The GOP is against fixing infrastructure, they want to give rich people tax breaks, increase the chances of war for profit and use wedge issues like abortion to spook the herd. Abortions are not happening as regularly as these clowns want you to think, the goal is to get the woman to stay at home and have 13 kids just like "the good ol days" which is code for bigotry.

Many preachers and politicians that are "pro- life" will get abortions for their mistresses to hide infidelity in a second. Poor people rarely gets abortions because they cannot afford it. It is a scam... It us about keeping women in the home and trying to make tons of babies to fight their future made up wars when they grow up...


The GOP is bought by the NRA and cannot issue common sense laws because it hurts profits for gun manufacturers and bullets, etc, they do not care who dies, it is all about greenbacks and pretend to " love the country" hiding behind the flag using boring platitudes and cliches with words like "liberty"and "patriotism" into the ground..

That group of politicians is a disgrace. That is my $0.02 for the day...
Knew a Wesleyan (high voltage) minister who purposely exposed his 15 year old daughter to German Measles as a way to justify her abortion.  Those types attend church about 5 times per week__everyone knew she was knocked up.

On infrastructure. Depends where you live. Here, we're in pretty good shape with the I-4 Ultimate project, OIA constantly undergoing expansion, the ports expanding, SunRail beginning to catch on and Virgin Trains coming to the area. Most of Florida has orange barrels everywhere in sight__hah, orange barrels replaced orange groves.

Elsewhere, particularly in the Rust Belt the infrastructure has been in sad shape for decades.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: joanna50 on June 04, 2019, 02:52:15 pm
Infrastructure is on top of his list, I didn't do the research on how he is approaching this, but I heard him time and time again on his debates and speeches that Infrastructure is a main priority.
No it isn't, otherwise he would take some action on it, instead of misdirecting everyone on the stupid wall he needs to actually work on something productive
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: joanna50 on June 04, 2019, 02:58:47 pm
Failed Congress and Senate Over The Past Two Decades Has Done Nothing Either Party Except Fill Their Pockets.....

Our Poor Poor Infrastructure
Our Poor Poor Border Security
Oue Poor Healthcare.....Socialism, Medicare For All Is NOT The Solution America Needs For Healthcare
Trade Deals Over The Years We Have Given America Away, Under The Idiots In Washington
Paris Accord Deal Was funded 80% by America, and they build multi-Billion Dollar Establishments With the Money, Congress & Senate wanted to keep sending more
Obama/Biden built the cages that separated families at the border and people tried blaming that on Trump
Democrats regained the house (Congress) nothing accomplished yet, except trying to get rid of Trump why NOT try and work together to Make America Great Again
No matter where people stand on abortion.....after the birth is not the time to keep the baby comfortable until the mother decides..... That Is Murder

Trump's been in politics for 2 1/2 years and now everything is his fault???? It's these career politicians who has let America Go To Po (BOTH PARTIES)

Just A Thought
Bullshit, Trump filled those cages, he may not of built them but he is the one who filled them, he is not in politics because he isn't a politican, he is a poor businessman who stays on the golf course and twitter. Both parties are at fault nope its the voters fault, no law says it has to be this outdated 2 party system, vote for the best candidate not the party
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 05, 2019, 07:37:26 pm
Recall that just last week Trump walked out of an infrastructure meeting wih Pelosi and Shumer and directly to the Rose Garden where he held a, cough, spontaneous press conference regarding Mueller complete with preprinted placards an handwritten notes.

He has no plan for infrastructure__can't be bothered by the ho hum stuff.

Pelosi accused him of a crime earlier. That tends to **** people off. Nothing like calling someone a criminal before negotiating an agreement.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Window Lickers Union on June 05, 2019, 11:19:08 pm
Bullshat, Trump filled those cages, he may not of built them but he is the one who filled them...

Is that dirty Trump Administration making cross-border snatch and grabs again, forcing people from other countries to unwillingly cross our borders just to put them in cages for sh!ts-n-giggles.

Say it ain't so !!!



Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Texas Pete on June 05, 2019, 11:31:03 pm
I thnk Trump is too busy filling his pockets to really give a sh!t about little kids in cages, he just
throws the base a bloody bone to keep them in a frenzy.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 05, 2019, 11:59:57 pm
Pelosi accused him of a crime earlier. That tends to **** people off. Nothing like calling someone a criminal before negotiating an agreement.

I tend to recall chants of "lock her up" over faux bs in 2016, remember that? Of course you do not as your head is buried up Trump's ass. Unlike the faux bs against Hillary, Trumps MANY crimes were real...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 06, 2019, 10:42:02 am
I tend to recall chants of "lock her up" over faux bs in 2016, remember that? Of course you do not as your head is buried up Trump's ass. Unlike the faux bs against Hillary, Trumps MANY crimes were real...

You're not confusing campaign slogans with a speaker of the house accusing a president of a crime, are you?
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 06, 2019, 10:53:27 am
I tend to recall chants of "lock her up" over faux bs in 2016, remember that? Of course you do not as your head is buried up Trump's ass. Unlike the faux bs against Hillary, Trumps MANY crimes were real...

BTW, Clinton used Bleachbit and hammers to destroy e-mails under congressional subpoena. That is obstruction of justice. Where's the rage then?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/06/15/inspector-general-report-clinton-emails-secrecy-column/704890002/
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 06, 2019, 11:14:16 am
Pelosi accused him of a crime earlier. That tends to **** people off. Nothing like calling someone a criminal before negotiating an agreement.
The feud between President Trump and congressional Democrats reached new heights of animosity Wednesday after Trump angrily walked out of a White House meeting on the nation’s infrastructure, insisting he would not work with Democrats unless they abandon their inquiries into his businesses, presidency and personal finances.

“Get these phony investigations over with,” Trump told reporters in the Rose Garden, moments after he spent three minutes in the Cabinet Room raging against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and other Democrats.

Afterward, Pelosi called the spectacle a “temper tantrum” intended to obscure Trump’s “lack of confidence . . . that he really couldn’t match the greatness of the challenge that we have” to pursue a sweeping infrastructure deal.

Trump in turn accused Pelosi of a “takedown attempt” and railed about her allegation Wednesday morning that he is ducking congressional subpoenas to act as a “coverup” for his own misbehavior.

Hmmm, seems like Pelosi has lyin Don's number.

What's your take on the New York State allegations/investigations?
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 06, 2019, 11:28:14 am
You're not confusing campaign slogans with a speaker of the house accusing a president of a crime, are you?

No..
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 06, 2019, 11:30:41 am
The feud between President Trump and congressional Democrats reached new heights of animosity Wednesday after Trump angrily walked out of a White House meeting on the nation’s infrastructure, insisting he would not work with Democrats unless they abandon their inquiries into his businesses, presidency and personal finances.

“Get these phony investigations over with,” Trump told reporters in the Rose Garden, moments after he spent three minutes in the Cabinet Room raging against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and other Democrats.

Afterward, Pelosi called the spectacle a “temper tantrum” intended to obscure Trump’s “lack of confidence . . . that he really couldn’t match the greatness of the challenge that we have” to pursue a sweeping infrastructure deal.

Trump in turn accused Pelosi of a “takedown attempt” and railed about her allegation Wednesday morning that he is ducking congressional subpoenas to act as a “coverup” for his own misbehavior.

Hmmm, seems like Pelosi has lyin Don's number.

What's your take on the New York State allegations/investigations?

He will give you his take after he gets his TP from Alex Jones, RxUSH ,hannity, or some dime a dozen armchair teabagging blogger, whoever...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 06, 2019, 11:56:11 am
BTW, Clinton used Bleachbit and hammers to destroy e-mails under congressional subpoena. That is obstruction of justice. Where's the rage then?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/06/15/inspector-general-report-clinton-emails-secrecy-column/704890002/
Clinton did no such thing nor did she instruct anyone else to use bleachbit or hammers to destroy evidence under subpoena.

Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 06, 2019, 12:08:21 pm
Clinton did no such thing nor did she instruct anyone else to use bleachbit or hammers to destroy evidence under subpoena.
Deflection tactics to try and get you off the actual topic and all because they can’t give you any tangible evidence to collaborate their story of and flavor of bs. Happens all the time.

Hope all is well.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 06, 2019, 12:09:18 pm
Deflection tactics to try and get you off the actual topic and all because they can’t give you any tangible evidence to collaborate their story of and flavor of bs. Happens all the time.

Hope all is well.
True...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 06, 2019, 12:33:29 pm
Clinton did no such thing nor did she instruct anyone else to use bleachbit or hammers to destroy evidence under subpoena.

The IG inspector cited in the article says subpoenaed evidence was destroyed. Whether Clinton herself ordered it is for debate. The FBI characterized it as a mishap. A mishap and you wonder why Comey was fired.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 06, 2019, 12:39:23 pm
The feud between President Trump and congressional Democrats reached new heights of animosity Wednesday after Trump angrily walked out of a White House meeting on the nation’s infrastructure, insisting he would not work with Democrats unless they abandon their inquiries into his businesses, presidency and personal finances.

“Get these phony investigations over with,” Trump told reporters in the Rose Garden, moments after he spent three minutes in the Cabinet Room raging against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and other Democrats.

Afterward, Pelosi called the spectacle a “temper tantrum” intended to obscure Trump’s “lack of confidence . . . that he really couldn’t match the greatness of the challenge that we have” to pursue a sweeping infrastructure deal.

Trump in turn accused Pelosi of a “takedown attempt” and railed about her allegation Wednesday morning that he is ducking congressional subpoenas to act as a “coverup” for his own misbehavior.

Hmmm, seems like Pelosi has lyin Don's number.

What's your take on the New York State allegations/investigations?

I didn't think NY made an allegation. They are on a fishing expedition though.

As far as ducking subpoenas go, that will probably go to the supreme court. The branches of government are separate and equal in powers. Congress may not have a right to the questioned documents without probable cause.

What misbehavior?
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 06, 2019, 12:40:53 pm
Is that dirty Trump Administration making cross-border snatch and grabs again, forcing people from other countries to unwillingly cross our borders just to put them in cages for sh!ts-n-giggles.

Say it ain't so !!!

It ain't so.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 06, 2019, 12:42:35 pm
He will give you his take after he gets his TP from Alex Jones, RxUSH ,hannity, or some dime a dozen armchair teabagging blogger, whoever...

Alex Jones is a wack job.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 06, 2019, 01:44:31 pm
Alex Jones is a wack job.

He is a wack job, RxUSH is a decades long junkie and Hannity is a mannequin who has been depressed since his first ventriloquist Roger Ailles passed away and Trump took Ailes place. You are a reflection of their defects every time you open your piehole..

Just saying...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 06, 2019, 02:00:21 pm
The IG inspector cited in the article says subpoenaed evidence was destroyed. Whether Clinton herself ordered it is for debate. The FBI characterized it as a mishap. A mishap and you wonder why Comey was fired.
Same old Teaman__and as a RVN vet I had such high hopes for you.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 06, 2019, 04:23:53 pm
Same old Teaman__and as a RVN vet I had such high hopes for you.

Ha! Same ol' Realtime. I took an oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. How 'bout you?

I hope your Memorial Day was good. I mean that.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 06, 2019, 04:25:36 pm
He is a wack job, RxUSH is a decades long junkie and Hannity is a mannequin who has been depressed since his first ventriloquist Roger Ailles passed away and Trump took Ailes place. You are a reflection of their defects every time you open your piehole..

Just saying...

Do you listen to Hannity or Limbaugh?
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 06, 2019, 07:21:32 pm
Do you listen to Hannity or Limbaugh?

No, they are not on radio around here, at least on any with strong signal strength and I do not watch Fox, I watch the late night comics like Colbert humiliate them when he shows their soundbites...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 06, 2019, 07:47:07 pm
No, they are not on radio around here, at least on any with strong signal strength and I do not watch Fox, I watch the late night comics like Colbert humiliate them when he shows their soundbites...

Colbert needs new material. He's becoming boring. The same thing all the time. Kinda like Hannity  :)
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 06, 2019, 09:42:56 pm
No it isn't, otherwise he would take some action on it, instead of misdirecting everyone on the stupid wall he needs to actually work on something productive

I wouldn't know if he is or isn't addressing Infrastucture, I havn't checked it out.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: joanna50 on June 13, 2019, 01:53:15 pm
I wouldn't know if he is or isn't addressing Infrastucture, I havn't checked it out.
Think its safe to say he isn't, cuts into his golf game and twitter time
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 13, 2019, 09:22:50 pm
Think its safe to say he isn't, cuts into his golf game and twitter time

Do you have proof that he isn't checking into it? This is here say.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: joanna50 on June 15, 2019, 09:54:48 am
Do you have proof that he isn't checking into it? This is here say.
Proof comes with his actions, all he does is bash people, complain, and lie
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Texas Pete on June 15, 2019, 11:16:38 am
Do you have proof that he isn't checking into it? This is here say.
Trump abruptly stalks out of meeting, says he won't work with Democrats until they drop all investigations.



https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-trump-democrats-infrastructure-trade-20190522-story.html
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 15, 2019, 04:43:29 pm
Colbert needs new material. He's becoming boring. The same thing all the time. Kinda like Hannity  :)
Funny you’d be looking for new material when it’s already before you.

https://youtu.be/EHWiV85Yu7s
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on June 15, 2019, 04:45:05 pm
Trump abruptly stalks out of meeting, says he won't work with Democrats until they drop all investigations.



https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-trump-democrats-infrastructure-trade-20190522-story.html
And practically admitted he and the Russians were working together and will do so in the next election.

https://youtu.be/EHWiV85Yu7s
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 18, 2019, 05:43:38 pm
I can see this is a Trump hater forum.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 18, 2019, 08:54:28 pm
Trump abruptly stalks out of meeting, says he won't work with Democrats until they drop all investigations.



https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-trump-democrats-infrastructure-trade-20190522-story.html

I just noticed another Crumbling of America thread that you started. But I started this one 1st. I guess this thread is better than yours? lol
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Texas Pete on June 18, 2019, 09:14:52 pm
I just noticed another Crumbling of America thread that you started. But I started this one 1st. I guess this thread is better than yours? lol
That was this thread Jackie, I moved it here and the other is to direct folks to this one.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Texas Pete on June 18, 2019, 09:16:42 pm
I can see this is a Trump hater forum.
I'm just glad I never did any work for Trump, I need to be paid when i work for someone.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 18, 2019, 09:21:37 pm
That was this thread Jackie, I moved it here and the other is to direct folks to this one.

I made this thread 1st, I should sue you under copyright laws.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 18, 2019, 09:26:34 pm
That was this thread Jackie, I moved it here and the other is to direct folks to this one.

texaspete.smfnew2.com/general-chat/

You moved tour thread to mine. I made it 1st on June 1st, 2019, You made yours on June 3rd, 2019.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Texas Pete on June 18, 2019, 09:40:09 pm
texaspete.smfnew2.com/general-chat/

You moved tour thread to mine. I made it 1st on June 1st, 2019, You made yours on June 3rd, 2019.
I didn't start one, that other one is to let posters know I moved your thread to Current Events.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 18, 2019, 09:42:28 pm
I didn't start one, that other one is to let posters know I moved your thread to Current Events.

So you moved my thread on June 3rd, to Current Events, ok.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 19, 2019, 06:38:02 pm
http://realestate.boston.com/news/2018/10/30/house-homeless-in-backyard/

Homeless living in peoples back yards a solution?
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 19, 2019, 06:41:04 pm
www.thespruce.com/super-affordable-tiny-homes-that-will-inspire-3017220

5 cheap mini homes
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 19, 2019, 10:59:12 pm
http://realestate.boston.com/news/2018/10/30/house-homeless-in-backyard/

Homeless living in peoples back yards a solution?

Employment works.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 20, 2019, 08:11:41 pm
Employment works.

Yes employment works for sure, as long as the salary is keeping up with the cost of living. Maybe 3 people can share expenses if they have low incomes, like Three's Company sitcome.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 20, 2019, 08:14:12 pm
www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVhu5seyXO0
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: joanna50 on June 20, 2019, 10:39:34 pm
I can see this is a Trump hater forum.
Not at all, some people just don't have a tolerance for liars, and cheaters who betray their country
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 20, 2019, 11:00:27 pm
Not at all, some people just don't have a tolerance for liars, and cheaters who betray their country

Are you a Democrat?
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 20, 2019, 11:26:57 pm
Are you a Democrat?

She can't be a Democrat if she has no tolerance for liars and cheaters.  ;D
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: joanna50 on June 22, 2019, 09:57:33 am
Are you a Democrat?
I have no political affiliation, I think that's most of the problem these days, people vote for party instead of the best candidate
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 22, 2019, 11:03:32 am
I have no political affiliation, I think that's most of the problem these days, people vote for party instead of the best candidate
That doesn't work in FLA, here you must be registered as a Republican to vote in the Republican primary, a Democrat for the Democrat primary and so on. As there are so few NPA, I, L and GP  candidates for state and local offices the so called independents are shut out of all but the  general elections.

Here it's better to register as either a R or a D and then vote split ticket in the general elections.

As screwed up as FLA is when it comes to voting many states are even worse.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 22, 2019, 11:11:31 am
That doesn't work in FLA, here you must be registered as a Republican to vote in the Republican primary, a Democrat for the Democrat primary and so on. As there are so few NPA, I, L and GP  candidates for state and local offices the so called independents are shut out of all but the  general elections.

Here it's better to register as either a R or a D and then vote split ticket in the general elections.

As screwed up as FLA is when it comes to voting many states are even worse.
Kentucky is the same way, you have to be either a Republican or Democrat in order to vote in primaries.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 22, 2019, 12:47:59 pm
I have no political affiliation, I think that's most of the problem these days, people vote for party instead of the best candidate

Speaking for myself, I was a Democrat for years, until this last election, now I voted for who I think the best candidate no matter what party. I don't go by the party anymore.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 22, 2019, 12:51:00 pm
That doesn't work in FLA, here you must be registered as a Republican to vote in the Republican primary, a Democrat for the Democrat primary and so on. As there are so few NPA, I, L and GP  candidates for state and local offices the so called independents are shut out of all but the  general elections.

Here it's better to register as either a R or a D and then vote split ticket in the general elections.

As screwed up as FLA is when it comes to voting many states are even worse.

Wow! I never knew that. I thought everyone can vote for who they want, I'm confused. ???
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 22, 2019, 12:57:44 pm
Wow! I never knew that. I thought everyone can vote for who they want, I'm confused. ???
You can in regular elections but in a primary you can only vote what your party is.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 22, 2019, 01:18:48 pm
Wow! I never knew that. I thought everyone can vote for who they want, I'm confused. ???

The primary election is the parties electing their respective candidates.   
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 22, 2019, 01:25:40 pm
The primary election is the parties electing their respective candidates.

Well, what if you don't care for the candidates in your party? I would think a person can vote for who they want, no matter what party they are registered in. Doesn't sound Kosher to me.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 22, 2019, 01:26:27 pm
You can in regular elections but in a primary you can only vote what your party is.

Not Kosher!!!!
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 22, 2019, 01:53:33 pm
Not Kosher!!!!
May not be kosher but it is the only way you can vote when the general election takes place. Then you can either vote straight ticket, split the ticket or vote for anyone you like. If you don't vote than you have no right to complain about what happens.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 22, 2019, 01:55:24 pm
Well, what if you don't care for the candidates in your party? I would think a person can vote for who they want, no matter what party they are registered in. Doesn't sound Kosher to me.
Doesn't work that way. You have to vote in the primaries in order to vote for who you want in general elections. If you don't vote at all than you can't and don't have the right to complain about what is happening.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 22, 2019, 01:55:43 pm
May not be kosher but it is the only way you can vote when the general election takes place. Then you can either vote straight ticket, split the ticket or vote for anyone you like. If you don't vote than you have no right to complain about what happens.

Primary or not, a person should have the freedom to vote for any candidate they want no matter what party.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 22, 2019, 02:00:44 pm
Primary or not, a person should have the freedom to vote for any candidate they want no matter what party.
You have to be in a party in order to vote and then come general.election, you can vote for who you want. It has been that way since elections first started and George Washington was elected president..
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 22, 2019, 02:02:38 pm
You have to be in a party in order to vote and then come general.election, you can vote for who you want. It has been that way since elections first started and George Washington was elected president..

I realize that, but a person should be allowed to vote outside their registered party as I mentioned in a previous post.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 22, 2019, 02:05:50 pm
I realize that, but a person should be allowed to vote outside their registered party as I mentioned in a previous post.
You can in a general.election but not in primaries.It is not how people.are elected or chosen to run against someone else. You can't just vote  for who you want in primaries that is why many choose to vote Republican or Democrat so when general election happens they can vote for whoever.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 22, 2019, 02:21:47 pm
The thing is you may not like who is running in the primaries but the only way one can vote is by declaring a party and then in general election you can choose to vote differently.  I don't vote straight party when it comes to general elections but I vote in the primaries in order to vote in the general elections. If you don't vote in the primary after so many times than you aren't allowed to vote at all until you have registered in a party. My philosophy is one can't complain about what is happening in the country if you haven't voted.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 22, 2019, 02:46:33 pm
Well, what if you don't care for the candidates in your party? I would think a person can vote for who they want, no matter what party they are registered in. Doesn't sound Kosher to me.

The primary is an election within the party choosing the party's candidate. You can vote for whoever you want in the general election.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 22, 2019, 02:53:36 pm
The primary election is the parties electing their respective candidates.
Sort of__those who aren't registered D's or R's (here) sit out the primaries in all but a couple of instances and the primaries are where the action is.

In FLA we had to choose between two sub par candidates for Governor because the primaries drew from far left and far right.  If the so called independents had been able to vote that race would have been between Adam Putnam and Gwen Graham. Putnam, a true leader with experience to spare would be our governor. Instead, the right delivered us a little round bottomed, lying azz Freedom Caucus Trump neophyte.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 22, 2019, 04:33:54 pm
Sort of__those who aren't registered D's or R's (here) sit out the primaries in all but a couple of instances and the primaries are where the action is.

In FLA we had to choose between two sub par candidates for Governor because the primaries drew from far left and far right.  If the so called independents had been able to vote that race would have been between Adam Putnam and Gwen Graham. Putnam, a true leader with experience to spare would be our governor. Instead, the right delivered us a little round bottomed, lying azz Freedom Caucus Trump neophyte.

I'll put you down as a maybe on DeSantis.  ;D
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 22, 2019, 04:42:56 pm
Sort of__those who aren't registered D's or R's (here) sit out the primaries in all but a couple of instances and the primaries are where the action is.

In FLA we had to choose between two sub par candidates for Governor because the primaries drew from far left and far right.  If the so called independents had been able to vote that race would have been between Adam Putnam and Gwen Graham. Putnam, a true leader with experience to spare would be our governor. Instead, the right delivered us a little round bottomed, lying azz Freedom Caucus Trump neophyte.

BTW, I thought you were registered as a Republican. Couldn't you have voted for Putnam in the primary?
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 23, 2019, 06:38:16 am
BTW, I thought you were registered as a Republican. Couldn't you have voted for Putnam in the primary?
I did, wife who registers D voted for Graham.

Far right and far left turned out in FL the middle stayed home and we wound up with two equally bad choices for the governors office.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 23, 2019, 08:15:32 am
I did, wife who registers D voted for Graham.

Far right and far left turned out in FL the middle stayed home and we wound up with two equally bad choices for the governors office.
That is how it was in Kentucky except Beshear is a little better than Bevins.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 09:57:49 am
I did, wife who registers D voted for Graham.

Far right and far left turned out in FL the middle stayed home and we wound up with two equally bad choices for the governors office.

That's what happened. People stayed home.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: joanna50 on June 23, 2019, 10:30:49 am
That is how it was in Kentucky except Beshear is a little better than Bevins.
Mitch and Bevin both need to go, maybe Trump can adopt them. I'm sure there's a bus somewhere he can throw them under
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 23, 2019, 10:59:57 am
Mitch and Bevin both need to go, maybe Trump can adopt them. I'm sure there's a bus somewhere he can throw them under
It is going to take a miracle to get rid of Mitch. Ed Whitfield was smart and got out.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 11:22:40 am
Mitch and Bevin both need to go, maybe Trump can adopt them. I'm sure there's a bus somewhere he can throw them under

What are they doing wrong? Just asking, I don't know.

Kentucky was my favorite duty station. A beautiful place.
KFC was a new thing back then.  :D
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 23, 2019, 01:09:19 pm
What are they doing wrong? Just asking, I don't know.

Kentucky was my favorite duty station. A beautiful place.
KFC was a new thing back then.  :D
I too was at FT Knox, later traveled extensively throughout the state and.  think KY is beautiful.

Insofar as the politics there? LMAO!

I just googled "whats wrong with mitch mcconnell" and almost blew up the internet. Here's the most recent entry   https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/13/opinion/mitch-mcconnell-russian-interference.html   there might be a paywall but don't worry there are pages of  plenty of good reading.

IMO, there's a pretty good case for Mitch to be charged with crimes for what he's done to the nations legislative flow.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 23, 2019, 07:57:03 pm
What are they doing wrong? Just asking, I don't know.

Kentucky was my favorite duty station. A beautiful place.
KFC was a new thing back then.  :D
Mitch has been around way too long. A good reason to have term limits on all politicians. He is crooked as hell.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 23, 2019, 08:30:22 pm
Mitch has been around way too long. A good reason to have term limits on all politicians. He is crooked as hell.

You will get no argument from me there. Him and his wife can go to hell...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 23, 2019, 08:35:40 pm
What are they doing wrong? Just asking, I don't know.

You are correct when you say you don't know..



Kentucky was my favorite duty station. A beautiful place.
KFC was a new thing back then.  :D

So? I ate at KFC in Okinawa when I served...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 23, 2019, 08:52:52 pm
You are correct when you say you don't know..


So? I ate at KFC in Okinawa when I served...
Seeing as how Harlan Sanders started that in 1930 and the first franchise was in 1952 and in Salt Lake City, Utah, it makes someone very old if he ate at one in 1930. Sanders sold it to former Governor John Y. Brown in 1964  along with some other investors who really made it more popular .
 Lol. Heck KFC is all over Asia, Europe and other countries. Kiev, Ukraine had 13 McDonald's at one time.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 23, 2019, 08:56:39 pm
You will get no argument from me there. Him and his wife can go to hell...
Yep, they both need to go.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 23, 2019, 08:59:33 pm
Seeing as how Harlan Sanders started that in 1930 and the first franchise was in 1952 and in Salt Lake City, Utah, it makes someone very old if he ate at one in 1930. Sanders sold it to former Governor John Y. Brown in 1964  along with some other investors who really made it more popular .
 Lol. Heck KFC is all over Asia, Europe and other countries. Kiev, Ukraine had 13 McDonald's at one time.

Also Ft Cambell Ky is not next door to Corbin...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: joanna50 on June 23, 2019, 09:15:50 pm
I too was at FT Knox, later traveled extensively throughout the state and.  think KY is beautiful.

Insofar as the politics there? LMAO!

I just googled "whats wrong with mitch mcconnell" and almost blew up the internet. Here's the most recent entry   https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/13/opinion/mitch-mcconnell-russian-interference.html   there might be a paywall but don't worry there are pages of  plenty of good reading.

IMO, there's a pretty good case for Mitch to be charged with crimes for what he's done to the nations legislative flow.
Mitch wont be charged just like Trump wont, seems like morons are coated with teflon
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 10:02:50 pm
You are correct when you say you don't know..


So? I ate at KFC in Okinawa when I served...

Was it a new thing when you served? It was meant to indicate I haven't been to Kentucky since 1968.

There wasn't even a McDonalds in Tokyo when I was there.

Tugboat crew?
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 10:09:23 pm
Mitch has been around way too long. A good reason to have term limits on all politicians. He is crooked as hell.

You don't like the Turtle?  :) I agree with the term limits.

Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 23, 2019, 10:11:10 pm
Was it a new thing when you served? It was meant to indicate I haven't been to Kentucky since 1968.

There wasn't even a McDonalds in Tokyo when I was there.

Tugboat crew?

I never said it was, also KFC was not new in 1968, just in your head. PL posted the fact that disproves your fantasy that KFC was a "new thing" as you call it in your expirience...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 10:14:12 pm
Seeing as how Harlan Sanders started that in 1930 and the first franchise was in 1952 and in Salt Lake City, Utah, it makes someone very old if he ate at one in 1930. Sanders sold it to former Governor John Y. Brown in 1964  along with some other investors who really made it more popular .
 Lol. Heck KFC is all over Asia, Europe and other countries. Kiev, Ukraine had 13 McDonald's at one time.

1968, 4 years old by your post. It was fairly new then, the franchise we are all familiar with today. I never heard of them before. There were none in the northeast.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 23, 2019, 10:14:39 pm
You don't like the Turtle?  :) I agree with the term limits.

Bytch McTurtle's most devoted base is trailer trash, they are the dumbfks that will give up their rights so Bytch can add to his wealth at their expense...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 10:16:41 pm
I never said it was, also KFC was not new in 1968, just in your head. PL posted the fact that disproves your fantasy that KFC was a "new thing" as you call it in your expirience...

New to me. Nobody ate that crap up north. They're still not all that popular.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 23, 2019, 10:23:33 pm
1968, 4 years old by your post. It was fairly new then, the franchise we are all familiar with today. I never heard of them before. There were none in the northeast.

Wrong again, it was started as a franchise in 1952 with Sanders running it and was national in the 1960s, they were partners with the Big Boy franchise system in the nation Sander's sold it because it taxed him physically as well as fiscally, it stressed him. He sold it to Brown in exchange for lifetime employment security ie official company spokesperson.

KFC was featured in the James Bond film Goldfinger in 1964, filmed in 1963, it was well known by then...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 10:27:22 pm
Also Ft Cambell Ky is not next door to Corbin...

What does Ft. Cambell have to do with anything?  A lot closer than Ft. Knox where I was.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 10:31:36 pm
Wrong again, it was started as a franchise in 1952 with Sanders running it and was national in the 1960s, they were partners with the Big Boy franchise system in the nation Sander's sold it because it taxed him physically as well as fiscally, it stressed him. He sold it to Brown in exchange for lifetime employment security ie official company spokesperson.

KFC was featured in the James Bond film Goldfinger in 1964, filmed in 1963, it was well known by then...

Seriously? Probably the one where I ate.

I believe the franchises you speak of were independent restaurants with a contract with the Colonel. I don't believe it was called Kentucky Fried Chicken until it was sold in 1963
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 10:32:39 pm
You don't like the Turtle?  :) I agree with the term limits.

Just got wind of this Turtle guy, looked him up and saw on a facebook link.

Turtle caught my eye on this page because I was thinking of buying a turtle and having a turtle as a pet has been on my mind for quite some time now.

Is this Turtle a candidate for presidency? Is he a democrat?
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 10:33:40 pm
Bytch McTurtle's most devoted base is trailer trash, they are the dumbfks that will give up their rights so Bytch can add to his wealth at their expense...

Well, we tried to get rid of him, but it seems Bevins was worse.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 23, 2019, 10:35:45 pm
What does Ft. Cambell have to do with anything?  A lot closer than Ft. Knox where I was.

Well excuse me, I know a ton of people who served at Campbell and thought that was where you were, Realtime claimed Ft Knox, you did not until now...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 10:36:24 pm
Bytch McTurtle's most devoted base is trailer trash, they are the dumbfks that will give up their rights so Bytch can add to his wealth at their expense...

So I take it you don't like Turtles policies. I just found out about him here tonight. Did  quick reading on his facebook link from google. He sounds ok, but I'd have to do more research on him.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 10:37:24 pm
Just got wind of this Turtle guy, looked him up and saw on a facebook link.

Turtle caught my eye on this page because I was thinking of buying a turtle and having a turtle as a pet has been on my mind for quite some time now.

Is this Turtle a candidate for presidency? Is he a democrat?

He is the Senate majority leader and a Republican.   

I noticed it is legal to sell turtles here in Florida. They're illegal in NJ. I believe they're still legal in Pennsylvania too.   
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 10:40:38 pm
www.facebook.com/turtletet2/

Turtle Facebook page.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 10:42:57 pm
Well excuse me, I know a ton of people who served at Campbell and thought that was where you were, Realtime claimed Ft Knox, you did not until now...

Realtime and I go way back. He knows my MOS and correctly assumed I was referring to Ft. Knox or remembered me mentioning it before. He said, I too served at Ft. Knox. 
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 10:44:07 pm
He is the Senate majority leader and a Republican.   

I noticed it is legal to sell turtles here in Florida. They're illegal in NJ. I believe they're still legal in Pennsylvania too.

What is Turtles real name? I never heard of him, but I don't follow poliics too closely.

Thanks for the tip, I'm still deciding if I want a turtle. it would have to be a Russian Tortoise for easier care, and they don't get too large in size.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 10:46:15 pm
www.facebook.com/turtletet2/

Turtle Facebook page.

No, this turtle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_McConnell
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 10:47:09 pm
What is Turtles real name? I never heard of him, but I don't follow poliics too closely.

Thanks for the tip, I'm still deciding if I want a turtle. it would have to be a Russian Tortoise for easier care, and they don't get too large in size.

Oh, I thought you were going for a water turtle
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 10:50:04 pm
No, this turtle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_McConnell

Now wait a minute, when I click to this page there is no mention of a Turtle. Are you saying there are 2 turtles?? ???
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 23, 2019, 10:51:06 pm
Just got wind of this Turtle guy, looked him up and saw on a facebook link.

Turtle caught my eye on this page because I was thinking of buying a turtle and having a turtle as a pet has been on my mind for quite some time now.

Is this Turtle a candidate for presidency? Is he a democrat?

No he is the highest ranking Republican in the US Senate...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 10:52:22 pm
Oh, I thought you were going for a water turtle

No way, cleaning a tank is too much trouble, I'd rather clean up dirt in some type of pen for the turtle. but I ould like to give the turtle as much space as possible, possibly a whole room.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 10:53:37 pm
No he is the highest ranking Republican in the US Senate...

Wow! on that Facebook page his language is distasteful.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 10:55:23 pm
www.facebook.com/turtletet2/

He uses the F word here. Otherwise his ideas are a ok on this Facebook page.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 10:55:29 pm
Now wait a minute, when I click to this page there is no mention of a Turtle. Are you saying there are 2 turtles?? ???

Mitch McConnell. Some people say he looks like a turtle.

https://twitter.com/tristanreveur/status/803851508211191809

Can you see the resemblance? 
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 23, 2019, 10:56:52 pm
So I take it you don't like Turtles policies. I just found out about him here tonight. Did  quick reading on his facebook link from google. He sounds ok, but I'd have to do more research on him.
I do not, he is the epitome of hypocrisy. I am sure he has doled out cash for one of his past mistresses abortion to hide infidelity, for example...

Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 10:59:36 pm
No way, cleaning a tank is too much trouble, I'd rather clean up dirt in some type of pen for the turtle. but I ould like to give the turtle as much space as possible, possibly a whole room.

Good point.   Easier to feed also. They like spinach.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 11:02:19 pm
Mitch McConnell. Some people say he looks like a turtle.

https://twitter.com/tristanreveur/status/803851508211191809

Can you see the resemblance?

No. So why does this other guy claim to be Turtle and says he's a candidate for Presidency? I give up.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 23, 2019, 11:02:41 pm
Mitch McConnell. Some people say he looks like a turtle.

https://twitter.com/tristanreveur/status/803851508211191809

Can you see the resemblance?

Jon Stewart was the guy that started the turtle schtick because Bytch talks just like Cecil Turtle, the 1940s Warner Bros cartoon character that was paired against Bugs Bunny in WB's rendition of "The Tortoise vs the Hare"...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 11:03:57 pm
I do not, he is the epitome of hypocrisy. I am sure he has doled out cash for one of his past mistresses abortion to hide infidelity, for example...

I know nothing of this guy either, will have to read up. Anyway who cares about his personnal life as long as he serves the people.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 11:05:21 pm
Good point.   Easier to feed also. They like spinach.

Spinach, that's interesting, I can share mine.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 11:06:22 pm
Jon Stewart was the guy that started the turtle schtick because Bytch talks just like Cecil Turtle, the 1940s Warner Bros cartoon character that was paired against Bugs Bunny in WB's rendition of "The Tortoise vs the Hare"...

Cecil is a better resemblance.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 11:08:34 pm
Jon Stewart was the guy that started the turtle schtick because Bytch talks just like Cecil Turtle, the 1940s Warner Bros cartoon character that was paired against Bugs Bunny in WB's rendition of "The Tortoise vs the Hare"...

www.pinterest.com/pin/531987774703348875/

Cecil and Bugs Bunny - Interesting stuff.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 23, 2019, 11:11:05 pm
Spinach, that's interesting, I can share mine.

My son's box turtle did anyway.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 11:12:42 pm
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LthoQPO6YLE
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 11:18:05 pm
My son's box turtle did anyway.

It sounds like he took great care of it. All pets are a challenge to care for, but I guess they are worth it.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 23, 2019, 11:37:57 pm
www.pinterest.com/pin/531987774703348875/

Cecil and Bugs Bunny - Interesting stuff.

I am a cartoon historian myself, esp the cartoons that were made by the major movie studios like Bugs and gang, Tom and Jerry, Pink Panther, Woody Woodpecker, etc. television made cartoons are cheap particularly the ones made for Saturday mornings back in the 1960s and 1970s like Scooby Doo, etc.

The movie studio cartoons are what inspired the best comedians in this country, I got a funny sense of humor myself and showed it on Topix for years, I have heard every insult known to man, I expect it and it does not faze me because I can bite back, so to speak. I do not run to mods I like to defend myself and I do not play victim nor cry that I have no rights, that was ridiculous reading I seen earlier elsewhere. I was not a favorite among mods, used to get red letter warnings from mods all the time...

Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on June 23, 2019, 11:43:59 pm
I am a cartoon historian myself, esp the cartoons that were made by the major movie studios like Bugs and gang, Tom and Jerry, Pink Panther, Woody Woodpecker, etc. television made cartoons are cheap particularly the ones made for Saturday mornings back in the 1960s and 1970s like Scooby Doo, etc.

The movie studio cartoons are what inspired the best comedians in this country, I got a funny sense of humor myself and showed it on Topix for years, I have heard every insult known to man, I expect it and it does not faze me because I can bite back, so to speak. I do not run to mods I like to defend myself and I do not play victim nor cry that I have no rights, that was ridiculous reading I seen earlier elsewhere. I was not a favorite among mods, used to get red letter warnings from mods all the time...

Yeah, the old cartons are the best. Todays stuff has alot of junk in it.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 24, 2019, 12:13:26 am
Yeah, the old cartons are the best. Todays stuff has alot of junk in it.

Bugs Bunny is the biggest star and money maker in Warner Bros history to this date, real or imagined...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 24, 2019, 01:25:45 am
That is how it was in Kentucky except Beshear is a little better than Bevins.

Bevin got booed bad at the Kentucky Derby, I seen that and that was shown nationwide....
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 06:27:39 am
1968, 4 years old by your post. It was fairly new then, the franchise we are all familiar with today. I never heard of them before. There were none in the northeast.
No, it wasn't.  It had been around longer than that.  It also at one time was associated with Wendy's and Dave Thomas who owned several restaurants. They moved the headquarters from Corbin where it started to Shelbyville and now has an office headquarter in Louisville and Delaware.
Plus the franchise is now the YUM brand since that is who it was sold too. They should change the name but won't. 
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 06:32:52 am
Bevin got booed bad at the Kentucky Derby, I seen that and that was shown nationwide....
Yep, he is not well liked at all. I am surprised he didn't stick his nose into the race but that was the right call by the stewards regardless of what people say.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 24, 2019, 09:37:21 am
No, it wasn't.  It had been around longer than that.  It also at one time was associated with Wendy's and Dave Thomas who owned several restaurants. They moved the headquarters from Corbin where it started to Shelbyville and now has an office headquarter in Louisville and Delaware.
Plus the franchise is now the YUM brand since that is who it was sold too. They should change the name but won't.

After researching it, you're right.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 09:45:13 am
After researching it, you're right.
Maybe next time you should research before you post. It isn't that hard to do especially when in doubt.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 24, 2019, 10:38:58 am
Maybe next time you should research before you post. It isn't that hard to do especially when in doubt.

There it is. Lib snarkyism. I was thinking of KFC stores that were exclusively KFC and not KFC chicken sold in restaurants that sold other items. But, the name Kentucky Fried Chicken had been used in those restaurants.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 10:49:10 am
There it is. Lib snarkyism. I was thinking of KFC stores that were exclusively KFC and not KFC chicken sold in restaurants that sold other items. But, the name Kentucky Fried Chicken had been used in those restaurants.
Lib snarkyism? Hahaha, you have absolutely no clue as usual. You made the statement and when you got called out you want to come up with this claim. By the way, it was only in the past 20 or so years that KFC is and was sold in other restaurants such as KFC and Taco Bell or KFC and Long John Silvers. In some countries and some places in the U.S. KFC still stands alone and not with other restaurants.
I have never mentioned what my political beliefs are but you just assume that I am a lib so you are making an ass out of yourself for assuming. I haven't liked some things that Trump.has done same as I didn't like some things that Reagan, Bush's,  Carter, Clinton or Obama has done.
You should just admit that you didn't know or have a clue.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 24, 2019, 11:03:17 am
Lib snarkyism? Hahaha, you have absolutely no clue as usual. You made the statement and when you got called out you want to come up with this claim. By the way, it was only in the past 20 or so years that KFC is and was sold in other restaurants such as KFC and Taco Bell or KFC and Long John Silvers. In some countries and some places in the U.S. KFC still stands alone and not with other restaurants.
I have never mentioned what my political beliefs are but you just assume that I am a lib so you are making an ass out of yourself for assuming. I haven't liked some things that Trump.has done same as I didn't like some things that Reagan, Bush's,  Carter, Clinton or Obama has done.
You should just admit that you didn't know or have a clue.

Not really. KFC didn't own their own stores until 1964. The KFCs in the movie Goldfinger Weepy mentioned were located in Joe'sDrive-in and another restaurant with the sign fried chicken Col. Sander's recipe. Both in Miami. Researched that also.

Long John Silvers are still around?

Who was the last conservative type you voted for?
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 11:07:40 am
Not really. KFC didn't own their own stores until 1964. The KFCs in the movie Goldfinger Weepy mentioned were located in Joe'sDrive-in and another restaurant with the sign fried chicken Col. Sander's recipe. Both in Miami. Researched that also.

Long John Silvers are still around?

Who was the last conservative type you voted for?
I voted for an independent in the last election, I wasn't crazy about Sanders or Trump even though I knew that was a wasted vote but better than not voting at all.
Again KFC had the first franchise start in Utah in the 1950's and then several more opened. Just as it is in most places, franchises get started and go from there.
Yes Long John Silvers are still around although many are called A & W restaurants.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 24, 2019, 11:24:05 am
I voted for an independent in the last election, I wasn't crazy about Sanders or Trump even though I knew that was a wasted vote but better than not voting at all.
Again KFC had the first franchise start in Utah in the 1950's and then several more opened. Just as it is in most places, franchises get started and go from there.
Yes Long John Silvers are still around although many are called A & W restaurants.

OK, the name remains a mystery.

Franchises were sold. You're right about that, but KFC didn't have their own stores until Sander's right was bought in 1964.  That is what was new in 1968. 

Do they still have a Jack In the Box where you are? A&W? That's nostalgic. Was that a Dog 'n Suds back in the day? Stewarts still around?   
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 11:29:42 am
OK, the name remains a mystery.

Franchises were sold. You're right about that, but KFC didn't have their own stores until Sander's right was bought in 1964.  That is what was new in 1968. 

Do they still have a Jack In the Box where you are? A&W? That's nostalgic. Was that a Dog 'n Suds back in the day? Stewarts still around?
I wouldn't know about Jack in the Box or Stewart's as we don't have those in our area of Kentucky or if they were ever here they have long gone out.
Again when the franchises were bought they were bought as a  KFC,  why is that hard for you to understand? It would be the same if I bought into a Dairy Queen or Little Ceasar, you are buying a restaurant and using that name. KFC was sold in 1960's to John Y. Brown and he then ran it for a while. Almost all restaurants are a franchise with a person buying and using that name. Obviously it was a new concept to you as most of the KFC'S around here have been here longer than I have and long before 1964, according to one of the managers of the one that a friend's son works at. They just remodeled it because it was desperately needed.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 24, 2019, 12:00:10 pm
I wouldn't know about Jack in the Box or Stewart's as we don't have those in our area of Kentucky or if they were ever here they have long gone out.
Again when the franchises were bought they were bought as a  KFC,  why is that hard for you to understand? It would be the same if I bought into a Dairy Queen or Little Ceasar, you are buying a restaurant and using that name. KFC was sold in 1960's to John Y. Brown and he then ran it for a while. Almost all restaurants are a franchise with a person buying and using that name. Obviously it was a new concept to you as most of the KFC'S around here have been here longer than I have and long before 1964, according to one of the managers of the one that a friend's son works at. They just remodeled it because it was desperately needed.

Jack in the Box was a big deal in California when I was out there in the 1980s , they exist all over North Carolina today and have since like 2001...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 24, 2019, 12:06:21 pm
OK, the name remains a mystery.

Franchises were sold. You're right about that, but KFC didn't have their own stores until Sander's right was bought in 1964.  That is what was new in 1968. 

Do they still have a Jack In the Box where you are? A&W? That's nostalgic. Was that a Dog 'n Suds back in the day? Stewarts still around?
LMAO, you're arguing about Colonel Sanders with someone who actually knew him.

BTW when I was traveling throughout KY and the rest of Appalachia, I actually stopped in the original Sanders store and it wasn't much to look at.

So the correct answer is that there were two KFC's, the Sanders KFC and the John Y Brown KFC which eventually included the actual Harland Sanders, it's a long and complicated story because hillbilly's are involved. This stuff can be googled__no reason to get it wrong.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 12:09:20 pm
LMAO, you're arguing about Colonel Sanders with someone who actually knew him.

BTW when I was traveling throughout KY and the rest of Appalachia, I actually stopped in the original Sanders store and it wasn't much to look at.

So the correct answer is that there were two KFC's, the Sanders KFC and the John Y Brown KFC which eventually included the actual Harland Sanders, it's a long and complicated story because hillbilly's are involved. This stuff can be googled__no reason to get it wrong.
Yep and now they have made the one in Corbin, Ky that Sanders started as a museum and I think a hotel or it was a hotel at one time. It isn't much and I wouldn't waste my time going to it.
Yep, John Y. Brown made KFC famous after he bought it and then he sold it, I am not sure if that is when the YUM brand bought it or not.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 12:11:51 pm
Jack in the Box was a big deal in California when I was out there in the 1980s , they exist all over North Carolina today and have since like 2001...
I don't know if there are any in Kentucky because I couldn't find any but that doesn't mean anything since some restaurants could be in Louisville or Lexington area. We ate at one in North Carolina and it was okay.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 24, 2019, 12:12:44 pm
I wouldn't know about Jack in the Box or Stewart's as we don't have those in our area of Kentucky or if they were ever here they have long gone out.
Again when the franchises were bought they were bought as a  KFC,  why is that hard for you to understand? It would be the same if I bought into a Dairy Queen or Little Ceasar, you are buying a restaurant and using that name. KFC was sold in 1960's to John Y. Brown and he then ran it for a while. Almost all restaurants are a franchise with a person buying and using that name. Obviously it was a new concept to you as most of the KFC'S around here have been here longer than I have and long before 1964, according to one of the managers of the one that a friend's son works at. They just remodeled it because it was desperately needed.

The point was the franchise was sold as KFC, but the chicken was sold in an existing established restaurant, not their own. You don't have to own a building to own a franchise. Kinda like Carvel Ice Cream is sold in a supermarket or a Friendly's restaurant. They don't have their own stores anymore, but it is still a Carvel Franchise. Not a new concept.

They need more than remodeling. As I said before, there are very few left up north. The couple that are left share a building with Taco Bell or another restaurant owned by the same company.

When my wife sold her restautaurant her business and business name was sold separately from the real estate and building.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 24, 2019, 12:13:43 pm
Jack in the Box was a big deal in California when I was out there in the 1980s , they exist all over North Carolina today and have since like 2001...
Had a few here in FLA but they didn't survive even though most were 24/7 operations. That company had a E-coli problem  in the mid 90's that was deadly for a few kids and affected a thousand or so adults.

Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 24, 2019, 12:16:10 pm
LMAO, you're arguing about Colonel Sanders with someone who actually knew him.

BTW when I was traveling throughout KY and the rest of Appalachia, I actually stopped in the original Sanders store and it wasn't much to look at.

So the correct answer is that there were two KFC's, the Sanders KFC and the John Y Brown KFC which eventually included the actual Harland Sanders, it's a long and complicated story because hillbilly's are involved. This stuff can be googled__no reason to get it wrong.

Yeah, I know. I'm just having a little fun.

That's what I'm trying to get at. Two KFCs
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 12:32:05 pm
Yeah, I know. I'm just having a little fun.

That's what I'm trying to get at. Two KFCs
No ,you weren't. 
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 12:32:28 pm
The point was the franchise was sold as KFC, but the chicken was sold in an existing established restaurant, not their own. You don't have to own a building to own a franchise. Kinda like Carvel Ice Cream is sold in a supermarket or a Friendly's restaurant. They don't have their own stores anymore, but it is still a Carvel Franchise. Not a new concept.

They need more than remodeling. As I said before, there are very few left up north. The couple that are left share a building with Taco Bell or another restaurant owned by the same company.

When my wife sold her restautaurant her business and business name was sold separately from the real estate and building.
Wrong
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 24, 2019, 12:33:56 pm
Yep and now they have made the one in Corbin, Ky that Sanders started as a museum and I think a hotel or it was a hotel at one time. It isn't much and I wouldn't waste my time going to it.
Yep, John Y. Brown made KFC famous after he bought it and then he sold it, I am not sure if that is when the YUM brand bought it or not.
Pepsi and then YUM bought Pepsi. There are also large companies that own franchises for and  Popeye's, Church's and even KFC along with other brands Taco Bell and such. As I said earlier__confusing.

Here's what Teaman was talking about__independents with franchise rights to sell Kentucky Fried Chicken

https://www.pbase.com/donboyd/image/150926941
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 24, 2019, 12:55:02 pm
Pepsi and then YUM bought Pepsi. There are also large companies that own franchises for and  Popeye's, Church's and even KFC along with other brands Taco Bell and such. As I said earlier__confusing.

Here's what Teaman was talking about__independents with franchise rights to sell Kentucky Fried Chicken

https://www.pbase.com/donboyd/image/150926941

 I have worked at McDonalds when I was younger and my checks were not paid by McD's but the franchisee, I understand how they run. Not many big time compianies own their own restraurant and if they do it is in the big places like Chicago etc...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 12:57:32 pm
Pepsi and then YUM bought Pepsi. There are also large companies that own franchises for and  Popeye's, Church's and even KFC along with other brands Taco Bell and such. As I said earlier__confusing.

Here's what Teaman was talking about__independents with franchise rights to sell Kentucky Fried Chicken

https://www.pbase.com/donboyd/image/150926941
I couldn't remember when Pepsi owned it and whether they were bought by YUM brand or vice versa. I have a friend who owns the Popeye's and Taco John's here, actually it is a strange situation on that one. She owns the Popeye's and her ex husband owns the Taco John's.  Lol
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 01:09:38 pm
I have worked at McDonalds when I was younger and my checks were not paid by McD's but the franchisee, I understand how they run. Not many big time compianies own their own restraurant and if they do it is in the big places like Chicago etc...
Yep, I had a cousin who worked as a district manager at one time for McDonald's.  His was paid by the franchisee and not the corporation. 
Wasn't at one time Wendy's known as Judy's. Hardee's is known as Carl's Drive In, in some places,  I believe. 
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 24, 2019, 01:24:50 pm
I have worked at McDonalds when I was younger and my checks were not paid by McD's but the franchisee, I understand how they run. Not many big time compianies own their own restraurant and if they do it is in the big places like Chicago etc...
Correct and then it's also regional__McDonald's, early on had company stores operating in the more populated areas and onesy twosy franchisee's out in the sticks. That changed over time and with the commissary set up all the locations use these days it's hard to tell the franchises from the company stores thus the current court battles regarding employee poaching.

As for KFC, the bulk of it's company stores, while having some dine in seating, were more set up for take out and that concept was perfect for the time. So perfect that there were actually independents selling dine in KFC right around the corner from company owned take out stores and both doing well__people liked that chicken__a lot!

Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 01:28:47 pm
Correct and then it's also regional__McDonald's, early on had company stores operating in the more populated areas and onesy twosy franchisee's out in the sticks. That changed over time and with the commissary set up all the locations use these days it's hard to tell the franchises from the company stores thus the current court battles regarding employee poaching.

As for KFC, the bulk of it's company stores, while having some dine in seating, were more set up for take out and that concept was perfect for the time. So perfect that there were actually independents selling dine in KFC right around the corner from company owned take out stores and both doing well__people liked that chicken__a lot!
It seems a lot of those restaurants have lost the quality of the food when some people started owning them. I think they were looking for get rich schemes and not about the taste and quality of the food to be served.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 24, 2019, 01:31:06 pm
Yep, I had a cousin who worked as a district manager at one time for McDonald's.  His was paid by the franchisee and not the corporation. 
Wasn't at one time Wendy's known as Judy's. Hardee's is known as Carl's Drive In, in some places,  I believe.
On Dave Thomas (from wiki)

In the mid-1950s, Kentucky Fried Chicken founder Col. Harland Sanders came to Fort Wayne to find restaurateurs with established businesses in order to try to sell KFC franchises to them. At first, Thomas, who was the head cook at a restaurant, and the Clauss family declined Sanders's offer, but Sanders persisted, and the Clauss family franchised their restaurant with KFC and later also owned many other KFC franchises in the Midwest. During this time, Thomas worked with Sanders on many projects to make KFC more profitable and to give it brand recognition. Among other things Thomas suggested to Sanders, that were implemented, was that KFC reduce the number of items on the menu and focus on a signature dish. Thomas also suggested Sanders make commercials that he appear in. Thomas was sent by the Clauss family in the mid-1960s to help turn around four failing KFC stores they owned in Columbus, Ohio.[citation needed]

By 1968 Thomas had increased sales in the four fried chicken restaurants so much that he sold his share in them back to Sanders for more than $1.5 million.[7] This experience would prove invaluable to Thomas when he began Wendy's about a year later.

So small world eh?
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 01:41:56 pm
On Dave Thomas (from wiki)

In the mid-1950s, Kentucky Fried Chicken founder Col. Harland Sanders came to Fort Wayne to find restaurateurs with established businesses in order to try to sell KFC franchises to them. At first, Thomas, who was the head cook at a restaurant, and the Clauss family declined Sanders's offer, but Sanders persisted, and the Clauss family franchised their restaurant with KFC and later also owned many other KFC franchises in the Midwest. During this time, Thomas worked with Sanders on many projects to make KFC more profitable and to give it brand recognition. Among other things Thomas suggested to Sanders, that were implemented, was that KFC reduce the number of items on the menu and focus on a signature dish. Thomas also suggested Sanders make commercials that he appear in. Thomas was sent by the Clauss family in the mid-1960s to help turn around four failing KFC stores they owned in Columbus, Ohio.[citation needed]

By 1968 Thomas had increased sales in the four fried chicken restaurants so much that he sold his share in them back to Sanders for more than $1.5 million.[7] This experience would prove invaluable to Thomas when he began Wendy's about a year later.

So small world eh?
I also read that either Dave or John Y. Brown was the one who suggested the rotating bucket for the KFC.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 24, 2019, 01:58:54 pm
I also read that either Dave or John Y. Brown was the one who suggested the rotating bucket for the KFC.
For a guy with very little education Thomas did pretty well in the marketing end.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 24, 2019, 02:02:50 pm
Yep, I had a cousin who worked as a district manager at one time for McDonald's.  His was paid by the franchisee and not the corporation. 
Wasn't at one time Wendy's known as Judy's. Hardee's is known as Carl's Drive In, in some places,  I believe.

Carl's Jr which is basically the West Coast Hardee's. Carl's Jr was independant back in the 80s when I was out there but they were the exact same thing as Hardee's, I used Carl's Jr more than any other fast food restraunts because I like roast beef and hot dogs...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 02:10:58 pm
For a guy with very little education Thomas did pretty well in the marketing end.
Yep, I think all he had was a high school education. Sad he passed away in 2002.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 02:11:52 pm
Carl's Jr which is basically the West Coast Hardee's. Carl's Jr was independant back in the 80s when I was out there but they were the exact same thing as Hardee's, I used Carl's Jr more than any other fast food restraunts because I like roast beef and hot dogs...
I thought it was the same but wasn't sure. We use to have a Burger Chef which was Burger King. 
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 24, 2019, 02:29:10 pm
Another restaurant that beats KFC in the locations it serves is Bojangles, based in Charlotte. Big deal in the Carolinas, Bojangles just came to WV about five years ago. They are better than Popeyes...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 02:37:31 pm
Another restaurant that beats KFC in the locations it serves is Bojangles, based in Charlotte. Big deal in the Carolinas, Bojangles just came to WV about five years ago. They are better than Popeyes...
I think around here Chic-fil-A beats KFC.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 24, 2019, 02:52:07 pm
I think around here Chic-fil-A beats KFC.

The Chik-fil-a here in Princeton is in a bad location at a very busy intersection and can be difficult to get back on the road. I think their food is ok but I would never consider working there because of their closing on Sunday nor would I contribute to that company, I am a critic of Chik fil a business model....
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 02:58:20 pm
The Chik-fil-a here in Princeton is in a bad location at a very busy intersection and can be difficult to get back on the road. I think their food is ok but I would never consider working there because of their closing on Sunday nor would I contribute to that company, I am a critic of Chik fil a business model....
It doesn't bother me that it is closed on Sunday but then I grew up in a time when all stores were closed on Sundays.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 24, 2019, 03:05:21 pm
It doesn't bother me that it is closed on Sunday but then I grew up in a time when all stores were closed on Sundays.

We both grew up around the same time and I grew up on blue laws too but I feel religion should stay out of business. Religion is a personal choice...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 03:16:56 pm
We both grew up around the same time and I grew up on blue laws too but I feel religion should stay out of business. Religion is a personal choice...

True but some of the stores were just closed on Sunday not due to religion but more of the fact that people stayed home with families on that day. To be honest, it wouldn't bother me if stores were closed on Sundays as I bet the CEO's of bigger chains stay home with their families on those days same as they do on Thanksgiving and other holidays that stores use to be closed on.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 24, 2019, 03:28:27 pm
The Chik-fil-a here in Princeton is in a bad location at a very busy intersection and can be difficult to get back on the road. I think their food is ok but I would never consider working there because of their closing on Sunday nor would I contribute to that company, I am a critic of Chik fil a business model....
I love Princeton, always brought my wife and kids along when I worked that area. We would get a unit at Pipestem and I'd go out on business and they would have a great. We still some NA and folk art we purchased at the lodge.

Chick fil A has a wonderful business model, the franchisees are selected from within the company and can get their own store for as little as $5,000 total including  loan assistance, design, build and staffing.  No other business model in the entire nation even approaches  the Chick fil A concept imo.

OK, the founder and his son live at the foot of the cross__no Sunday hours, who gives a sht? Good food in a friendly polite atmosphere__kind of like an Amish place in Lancaster County PA except the food isn't near as good and there's no shoo fly pie.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 03:31:00 pm
I love Princeton, always brought my wife and kids along when I worked that area. We would get a unit at Pipestem and I'd go out on business and they would have a great. We still some NA and folk art we purchased at the lodge.

Chick fil A has a wonderful business model, the franchisees are selected from within the company and can get their own store for as little as $5,000 total including  loan assistance, design, build and staffing.  No other business model in the entire nation even approaches  the Chick fil A concept imo.

OK, the founder and his son live at the foot of the cross__no Sunday hours, who gives a sht? Good food in a friendly polite atmosphere__kind of like an Amish place in Lancaster County PA except the food isn't near as good and there's no shoo fly pie.
I also think Chic fil A does a lot for Veteran's, not sure on that one but I think I read where they did or it may be up to that local one. Some of the Chic fil A's provide free month of meals for moms who have had babies.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 24, 2019, 03:39:47 pm
I love Princeton, always brought my wife and kids along when I worked that area. We would get a unit at Pipestem and I'd go out on business and they would have a great. We still some NA and folk art we purchased at the lodge.

Chick fil A has a wonderful business model, the franchisees are selected from within the company and can get their own store for as little as $5,000 total including  loan assistance, design, build and staffing.  No other business model in the entire nation even approaches  the Chick fil A concept imo.

OK, the founder and his son live at the foot of the cross__no Sunday hours, who gives a sht? Good food in a friendly polite atmosphere__kind of like an Amish place in Lancaster County PA except the food isn't near as good and there's no shoo fly pie.

I was not a fan of them pimping Mitt Romney in 2012, a guy who sneers at places like that, he eats at thousand dollars a plate steak dinners and only gave a schidt about their vote..

We all got our opinions on such but when I once went to church, I went to Shoney's and ate...

Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 24, 2019, 03:57:03 pm
I was not a fan of them pimping Mitt Romney in 2012, a guy who sneers at places like that, he eats at thousand dollars a plate steak dinners and only gave a schidt about their vote..

We all got our opinions on such but when I once went to church, I went to Shoney's and ate...
There were Shoney's here years ago__had a breakfast buffet. Gone now though.

Here's my breakfast hangout    https://crabbyjoesdaytona.com/

Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 24, 2019, 04:11:20 pm
There were Shoney's here years ago__had a breakfast buffet. Gone now though.

Here's my breakfast hangout    https://crabbyjoesdaytona.com/

I lived in Orlando/Kissimmee area for a year, 1989-90. Shoney's was all over the place, Kissimmee had three of them...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 24, 2019, 04:14:35 pm
I love Princeton, always brought my wife and kids along when I worked that area. We would get a unit at Pipestem and I'd go out on business and they would have a great. We still some NA and folk art we purchased at the lodge.

Chick fil A has a wonderful business model, the franchisees are selected from within the company and can get their own store for as little as $5,000 total including  loan assistance, design, build and staffing.  No other business model in the entire nation even approaches  the Chick fil A concept imo.

OK, the founder and his son live at the foot of the cross__no Sunday hours, who gives a sht? Good food in a friendly polite atmosphere__kind of like an Amish place in Lancaster County PA except the food isn't near as good and there's no shoo fly pie.

I live about 20 miles from Pipestem but had not visited there since the 1980s, that area was mosquito and gnat infested real bad at one time as was Bluestone lake...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 04:27:59 pm
There were Shoney's here years ago__had a breakfast buffet. Gone now though.

Here's my breakfast hangout    https://crabbyjoesdaytona.com/
I miss having Shoney's around here. They had some kind of banana strawberry conconcotation that it helped when my mom had cancer that we could put her medication in and she would take it. Funny, how some things make you remember family.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 24, 2019, 04:35:11 pm
I miss having Shoney's around here. They had some kind of banana strawberry conconcotation that it helped when my mom had cancer that we could put her medication in and she would take it. Funny, how some things make you remember family.

Shoney's is a dying business that will go under within another few years, it is an antique business model itself at this time in the early 21st century.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 24, 2019, 04:50:09 pm
Shoney's is a dying business that will go under within another few years, it is an antique business model itself at this time in the early 21st century.
You might be right on that, many businesses, restaurant and otherwise are in danger because they don't suit the millennials. Applebee's was mentioned in one study and also some of the "flesh food" joints, Hooters and such.


Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 24, 2019, 05:01:26 pm
Shoney's is a dying business that will go under within another few years, it is an antique business model itself at this time in the early 21st century.
Yep and they closed T.G.I.F's here.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 09:35:06 am
No ,you weren't.

I disagree. I was trying to indicate how long ago it was when I lived in Kentucky. You picked on the KFC thing.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 09:36:39 am
Pepsi and then YUM bought Pepsi. There are also large companies that own franchises for and  Popeye's, Church's and even KFC along with other brands Taco Bell and such. As I said earlier__confusing.

Here's what Teaman was talking about__independents with franchise rights to sell Kentucky Fried Chicken

https://www.pbase.com/donboyd/image/150926941

Thanks, Realtime.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 09:48:15 am
I was not a fan of them pimping Mitt Romney in 2012, a guy who sneers at places like that, he eats at thousand dollars a plate steak dinners and only gave a schidt about their vote..

We all got our opinions on such but when I once went to church, I went to Shoney's and ate...

Doofus Romney was amazed when a Wawa kiosk was demonstrated for him.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 09:51:19 am
I miss having Shoney's around here. They had some kind of banana strawberry conconcotation that it helped when my mom had cancer that we could put her medication in and she would take it. Funny, how some things make you remember family.

I have a new respect for you. I'm assuming your mom is a survivor? My wife is a survivor.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 09:53:33 am
Shoney's is a dying business that will go under within another few years, it is an antique business model itself at this time in the early 21st century.

I didn't think there were any left. One opened near exit 5 of the NJ Turnpike. I don't think it lasted a year.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 09:54:36 am
Yep and they closed T.G.I.F's here.

Here also (Tampa).
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 09:55:59 am
Yep and they closed T.G.I.F's here.

Oops, wrong restaurant. Ruby Tuesdays closed here. TGIF is still open.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 25, 2019, 09:57:55 am
I disagree. I was trying to indicate how long ago it was when I lived in Kentucky. You picked on the KFC thing.
Nope, you were the one who was claiming you knew so much and then it was proven you didn't.  No one does but you like to think you do.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 25, 2019, 09:59:06 am
I have a new respect for you. I'm assuming your mom is a survivor? My wife is a survivor.
No, she didn't survive. It came back after her being in remission in 1993 and she only lived for 9 months. Cancer has no mercy or shows any favoritism.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 25, 2019, 10:00:17 am
Oops, wrong restaurant. Ruby Tuesdays closed here. TGIF is still open.

They closed both of those here. Ruby Tuesdays closed long before TGIF
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 10:08:42 am
No, she didn't survive. It came back after her being in remission in 1993 and she only lived for 9 months. Cancer has no mercy or shows any favoritism.

I am so sorry to hear that. Please accept my deepest sympathy. My wife is a breast cancer survivor. So far so good.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 10:13:13 am
Nope, you were the one who was claiming you knew so much and then it was proven you didn't.  No one does but you like to think you do.

Nope, all I said was I a lived in Kentucky when KFC was kind of new in an attempt to illustrate how long ago it was. A poor illustration, I admit.  I didn't think KFC was all that important to anyone.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 25, 2019, 10:23:22 am
Nope, all I said was I a lived in Kentucky when KFC was kind of new in an attempt to illustrate how long ago it was. A poor illustration, I admit.  I didn't think KFC was all that important to anyone.
No, your attempt to try and show how long ago failed when it was shown that it had been around longer than you think. There are a few private owned restaurants that aren't owned by any corporations. Kind of an oddity in today's times.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 10:30:37 am
No, your attempt to try and show how long ago failed when it was shown that it had been around longer than you think. There are a few private owned restaurants that aren't owned by any corporations. Kind of an oddity in today's times.

Aw, c'mon. I said it was a poor illustration. Gimme a break.  ;)

I didn't know what a K-Mart was until I lived in Kentucky.  Never saw one before. Saw my first auto record payer there also. I guess 8 tracks knocked them out. 
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 25, 2019, 10:37:35 am
Aw, c'mon. I said it was a poor illustration. Gimme a break.  ;)

I didn't know what a K-Mart was until I lived in Kentucky.  Never saw one before. Saw my first auto record payer there also. I guess 8 tracks knocked them out.
You must have lived in the sticks because Kmart wasn't even the most popular store in Kentucky. It was a Big K and it was taken over by Kmart. Woolworth's and Woolco were top stores also.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 10:42:31 am
You must have lived in the sticks because Kmart wasn't even the most popular store in Kentucky. It was a Big K and it was taken over by Kmart. Woolworth's and Woolco were top stores also.

It was between Ft. Knox and Louisville somewhere. It was the sticks to me.

Woolworths was still open up north.

Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 25, 2019, 11:05:56 am
Doofus Romney was amazed when a Wawa kiosk was demonstrated for him.

Wawa, the convinience store? Many people do not know the existence of that place, they are big in Maryland area I was born in...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 25, 2019, 11:24:31 am
Aw, c'mon. I said it was a poor illustration. Gimme a break.  ;)

I didn't know what a K-Mart was until I lived in Kentucky.  Never saw one before. Saw my first auto record payer there also. I guess 8 tracks knocked them out.

K-Mart was created in 1962 from SS Kresge (sp?) who had a store in Bluefield WV until Kmart came to that town..

DYK that Kmart, Walmart and Target were all created in 1962 and all were spun off from the five and dime and were positioned for the suburban shopper?
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 25, 2019, 11:31:10 am
Wawa, the convinience store? Many people do not know the existence of that place, they are big in Maryland area I was born in...
Never heard of Wawa,. 7-11 use to be big in this area and now there aren't many of them.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 25, 2019, 11:39:08 am
I disagree. I was trying to indicate how long ago it was when I lived in Kentucky. You picked on the KFC thing.

I seen the KFC thing too, I back PL. just because we are not as old as you are does not mean we do not know about those days...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 25, 2019, 11:40:56 am
Never heard of Wawa,. 7-11 use to be big in this area and now there aren't many of them.

7/11 is still in WV but Sheetz is the big tine convience store here, based in Altoona, PA. Are they in your area of KY. I like Sheetz....
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 25, 2019, 11:42:59 am
7/11 is still in WV but Sheetz is the big tine convience store here, based in Altoona, PA. Are they in your area of KY. I like Sheetz....
No, most of our convient stores are Minit Marts or run by Marathon or Shell gas stations. I don't really know of any that are just a convience store without the gas station around here.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 25, 2019, 11:44:57 am
I seen the KFC thing too, I back PL. just because we are not as old as you are does not mean we do not know about those days...
Exactly,  all I have to do is ask people older than myself. Heck, my husband's aunt lived until last year and she was 102 when she passed away and was still very with it. One of the first University of Kentucky graduates with a degree in Latin as a woman
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Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 25, 2019, 11:46:22 am
Huck's, Pilots and Loves are also big around here. Along with Casey's General Stores.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 25, 2019, 12:00:16 pm
No, most of our convient stores are Minit Marts or run by Marathon or Shell gas stations. I don't really know of any that are just a convience store without the gas station around here.

They all are gas stations here too. Marathon was big around here in the 1990s, very few still around. They used to be Ashland Oil Co before that.

I believe Sheetz exist in Eastern KY around Ashland ( yes the city Ashland oil was named after) and those places...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 25, 2019, 12:01:10 pm
Huck's, Pilots and Loves are also big around here. Along with Casey's General Stores.

I know pilot and Love's. Nearest one is in Wytheville, 35 miles away from here...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 25, 2019, 12:52:30 pm
I know pilot and Love's. Nearest one is in Wytheville, 35 miles away from here...
Growing up we had two mom and pop stores. One was ran by a Jewish gentleman,  I believe. Both stores were staples in our community as it was a 10 mile trip one way into town. We also had the milk man and the bookmobile come and the health clinic back then would come and vaccinate the dogs for you for free. My grandfather did most of the doctoring of our animals.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 25, 2019, 02:57:40 pm
Exactly,  all I have to do is ask people older than myself. Heck, my husband's aunt lived until last year and she was 102 when she passed away and was still very with it. One of the first University of Kentucky graduates with a degree in Latin as a woman
.

Sundog was my go to guy when I had questions regarding that era. He is 13 years older than me...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 25, 2019, 03:44:58 pm
K-Mart was created in 1962 from SS Kresge (sp?) who had a store in Bluefield WV until Kmart came to that town..

DYK that Kmart, Walmart and Target were all created in 1962 and all were spun off from the five and dime and were positioned for the suburban shopper?
The history of Walmart, an American discount department store chain, began in 1950 when businessman Sam Walton purchased a store from Luther E. Harrison in Bentonville, Arkansas, and opened Walton's 5 & 10. ... The company introduced its warehouse club chain Sam's Club in 1983 and its first Supercenter stores in 1988.

Learn more at    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Walmart

Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 25, 2019, 03:48:12 pm
The history of Walmart, an American discount department store chain, began in 1950 when businessman Sam Walton purchased a store from Luther E. Harrison in Bentonville, Arkansas, and opened Walton's 5 & 10. ... The company introduced its warehouse club chain Sam's Club in 1983 and its first Supercenter stores in 1988.

Learn more at    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Walmart
It is a shame that the Walmart today was not how Sam Walton wanted it but greed does a lot to people and families.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 25, 2019, 03:50:55 pm
The history of Walmart, an American discount department store chain, began in 1950 when businessman Sam Walton purchased a store from Luther E. Harrison in Bentonville, Arkansas, and opened Walton's 5 & 10. ... The company introduced its warehouse club chain Sam's Club in 1983 and its first Supercenter stores in 1988.

Learn more at    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Walmart

I know the history well. It moved from the five and dime in 1962, the first one in Rogers, AR that same year and called it Walmart Discount City. A lot of such stores moved from the five and dime in downtown to suburbs and plenty of retail space they could never get in the central business districts..
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 25, 2019, 03:52:37 pm
It is a shame that the Walmart today was not how Sam Walton wanted it but greed does a lot to people and families.

Sam Walton was responsible for today's Walmart, it was big just before he died and he had everything to do with ir..
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 25, 2019, 04:01:26 pm
Sam Walton was responsible for today's Walmart, it was big just before he died and he had everything to do with ir..

Yes but I think he was more about customer service and helping customers.  They don't do that these days.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 25, 2019, 04:04:17 pm
I know the history well. It moved from the five and dime in 1962, the first one in Rogers, AR that same year and called it Walmart Discount City. A lot of such stores moved from the five and dime in downtown to suburbs and plenty of retail space they could never get in the central business districts..
I served with this guy in RVN, we remained friends for many years.

https://army.togetherweserved.com/army/servlet/tws.webapp.WebApp?cmd=ShadowBoxProfile&type=Person&ID=261457
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 04:12:41 pm
Wawa, the convinience store? Many people do not know the existence of that place, they are big in Maryland area I was born in...

They have gone downhill a little bit since they started selling gas. They're all over the place down here.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 04:14:09 pm
K-Mart was created in 1962 from SS Kresge (sp?) who had a store in Bluefield WV until Kmart came to that town..

DYK that Kmart, Walmart and Target were all created in 1962 and all were spun off from the five and dime and were positioned for the suburban shopper?

I didn't know that. What five and dime?   
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 04:15:07 pm
I seen the KFC thing too, I back PL. just because we are not as old as you are does not mean we do not know about those days...

Lol.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 04:18:20 pm
The history of Walmart, an American discount department store chain, began in 1950 when businessman Sam Walton purchased a store from Luther E. Harrison in Bentonville, Arkansas, and opened Walton's 5 & 10. ... The company introduced its warehouse club chain Sam's Club in 1983 and its first Supercenter stores in 1988.

Learn more at    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Walmart

Oh, that five and dime. Thanks
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 25, 2019, 04:22:01 pm
I served with this guy in RVN, we remained friends for many years.

https://army.togetherweserved.com/army/servlet/tws.webapp.WebApp?cmd=ShadowBoxProfile&type=Person&ID=261457

That is cool, RT....
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 05:00:29 pm
I seen the KFC thing too, I back PL. just because we are not as old as you are does not mean we do not know about those days...

Weepy, I was talking about how beautiful Kentucky was when I lived there. I mentioned how long ago it was implying I don't know how it is there now. How it got onto KFC is beyond me.  But, whatever.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 25, 2019, 05:05:54 pm
Weepy, I was talking about how beautiful Kentucky was when I lived there. I mentioned how long ago it was implying I don't know how it is there now. How it got onto KFC is beyond me.  But, whatever.

Except for Louisville Lexington and the Cincinnatti suburbs, it is just like WV to me...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 25, 2019, 05:16:38 pm
I served with this guy in RVN, we remained friends for many years.

https://army.togetherweserved.com/army/servlet/tws.webapp.WebApp?cmd=ShadowBoxProfile&type=Person&ID=261457
Neat history. 
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 25, 2019, 06:20:34 pm
Except for Louisville Lexington and the Cincinnatti suburbs, it is just like WV to me...

I suppose that's true. West Virginia is very nice also. I was impressed with the transit system at U of WV. Nice campus.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 26, 2019, 09:47:23 am
Except for Louisville Lexington and the Cincinnatti suburbs, it is just like WV to me...
Lexington is pretty in parts once you get outside of the University of Kentucky area and more into the horse farm areas.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Realtime on June 26, 2019, 12:13:33 pm
Lexington is pretty in parts once you get outside of the University of Kentucky area and more into the horse farm areas.
Always enjoyed the drive on I 75 from Lexington down to Knoxville, actually make that all the way to Chattanooga.

We lived in Abingdon VA for a couple of years, daughter was born there. Beautiful town that was with some really ugly people.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 26, 2019, 01:19:36 pm
Always enjoyed the drive on I 75 from Lexington down to Knoxville, actually make that all the way to Chattanooga.

We lived in Abingdon VA for a couple of years, daughter was born there. Beautiful town that was with some really ugly people.

I am two hours out of Abingdon. Just like Princeton, lots of busnesses catering to interstate highway travelers..
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 26, 2019, 01:42:27 pm
Always enjoyed the drive on I 75 from Lexington down to Knoxville, actually make that all the way to Chattanooga.

We lived in Abingdon VA for a couple of years, daughter was born there. Beautiful town that was with some really ugly people.
All towns seems to have some ugly people.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 26, 2019, 01:46:02 pm
All towns seems to have some the ugly people.

Very true...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 26, 2019, 05:49:27 pm
Always enjoyed the drive on I 75 from Lexington down to Knoxville, actually make that all the way to Chattanooga.

We lived in Abingdon VA for a couple of years, daughter was born there. Beautiful town that was with some really ugly people.

Chattanooga is another town that seemed nice.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 26, 2019, 06:09:48 pm
Chattanooga is another town that seemed nice.
Chattanooga is a neat little town. Very historical with a lot of Civil War history. I am a history buff on that stuff and we took our kids to one of the battlefields.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 26, 2019, 06:38:39 pm
Chattanooga is a neat little town. Very historical with a lot of Civil War history. I am a history buff on that stuff and we took our kids to one of the battlefields.

I Like it. Mountains all around and all.

Go to Hawaii and they ask you if you want an ocean or mountain view. I say I'm a Jersey boy. Gimmy the mountain view.

I meant to go see the Gettysburg reenactment before I moved down here. I never made it. I like that sort of thing also. Well, there was always Valley Forge.

Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 26, 2019, 06:40:52 pm
I Like it. Mountains all around and all.

Go to Hawaii and they ask you if you want an ocean or mountain view. I say I'm a Jersey boy. Gimmy the mountain view.

I meant to go see the Gettysburg reenactment before I moved down here. I never made it. I like that sort of thing also. Well, there was always Valley Forge.
Hawaii is on our bucket list as is Alaska.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 26, 2019, 07:09:24 pm
Hawaii is on our bucket list as is Alaska.

Hawaii is nice. I favored Maui myself.  Oahu was too much city like and touristy. The sidewalks roll up at 8 in Kauai. Pretty though. The big island looks like moonscape on the Kona side. But, it's fun there.   

My cousins moved to Alaska. A picture was sent back of their cabin out in nowhere. They forgot about the marijuana plants growing in the background. Oops.     ;D
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 26, 2019, 07:24:51 pm
Chattanooga is a neat little town. Very historical with a lot of Civil War history. I am a history buff on that stuff and we took our kids to one of the battlefields.

Chattanooga is one hell of an industrial city as well. In 1969 it was the most polluted city in the US with smog worse than LA being in a bowl like shape surrounded by mountains. I-75 at the GA line has been noted for some huge wrecks by fog...

I went in May, 2010. Was almost 90 degrees but felt great at Rock City, like 15 degrees cooler...We had some thunderstorms the whole trip...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 26, 2019, 07:27:50 pm
Ionly been to Oahu in Hawaii. Honolulu was a slum and Hawaii Five O depicted that place very well. Wakiki (sp?) Beach was great and the mountains opposite from Honolulu was breathtaking. Amazing thing is it has interstate highways, H-1 H-2 and H-3..,
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 26, 2019, 08:07:57 pm
Ionly been to Oahu in Hawaii. Honolulu was a slum and Hawaii Five O depicted that place very well. Wakiki (sp?) Beach was great and the mountains opposite from Honolulu was breathtaking. Amazing thing is it has interstate highways, H-1 H-2 and H-3..,

I agree. I never made it up to the north shore. It may have been a little more Hawaiian up there.

I remember driving up to Schofield on H-2 in a small car with large trucks blowing by proclaiming, welcome to paradise.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 26, 2019, 08:12:42 pm
Chattanooga is one hell of an industrial city as well. In 1969 it was the most polluted city in the US with smog worse than LA being in a bowl like shape surrounded by mountains. I-75 at the GA line has been noted for some huge wrecks by fog...

I went in May, 2010. Was almost 90 degrees but felt great at Rock City, like 15 degrees cooler...We had some thunderstorms the whole trip...

I didn't do much more than drive through on my way to New Orleans. It just looked like a nice place. It was a sunny day in the summer so I guess I missed the smog. That was about 18 years ago.

Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Weepy on June 26, 2019, 08:17:28 pm
I didn't do much more than drive through on my way to New Orleans. It just looked like a nice place. It was a sunny day in the summer so I guess I missed the smog. That was about 18 years ago.
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I have never been to Louisiana, only Southern state I never visited...
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Teaman on June 26, 2019, 08:25:21 pm
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I have never been to Louisiana, only Southern state I never visited...

I went for an RVN reunion. It was fun but very hot. It was a new thing for someone from the peoples republic of NJ to be able to walk Bourbon St. with a drink in your hand in public.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on June 30, 2019, 10:15:01 am
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I have never been to Louisiana, only Southern state I never visited...
We had thought about going to New Orleans and Baton Rouge for vacation but decided against it. I have a high school friend who is an artist in New Orleans.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: joanna50 on February 28, 2020, 10:20:42 pm
Do you have proof that he isn't checking into it? This is here say.
Well considering how much time he spends on twitter and cheating at golf logic would dictate that he isn't checking on anything except how long it takes for his massive dumps to go down the toliet
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Lady luck on February 29, 2020, 06:56:48 am
Well considering how much time he spends on twitter and cheating at golf logic would dictate that he isn't checking on anything except how long it takes for his massive dumps to go down the toliet
Hahahaha
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Groot on August 25, 2022, 12:07:45 pm
We had thought about going to New Orleans and Baton Rouge for vacation but decided against it. I have a high school friend who is an artist in New Orleans.
Better hurry before it sinks!
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on December 03, 2023, 08:37:38 pm
No it isn't, otherwise he would take some action on it, instead of misdirecting everyone on the stupid wall he needs to actually work on something productive

Well that wall is much needed as America can see. 2023
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on December 03, 2023, 08:39:25 pm
There wont be an America left soon.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on December 04, 2023, 02:38:48 am
Better hurry before it sinks!

New Orleans, the 2005 catastropy that should never have happened, if they built the levys for a cat 5. They just let it go.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on January 19, 2024, 12:29:32 am
INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS IS HERE NOW!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktEW65QQFgQ
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Sprocket on January 22, 2024, 07:39:22 pm
You stole it to begin with
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on March 12, 2024, 06:43:46 pm
Maui Fire Never Forget!  8/8/23

No sirens, faulty power lines, no water, blocked escape routes. People burned Alive!

Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Sprocket on March 13, 2024, 08:48:46 pm
Maui Fire Never Forget!  8/8/23

No sirens, faulty power lines, no water, blocked escape routes. People burned Alive!


At least they got some cash
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on March 15, 2024, 10:56:35 am
At least they got some cash

Did they ? Cant get the lives back. Cash cant compnsate for that.
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Sprocket on March 15, 2024, 12:09:58 pm
Did they ? Cant get the lives back. Cash cant compnsate for that.
Trump nicknamed himself Honest Don
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on March 15, 2024, 08:50:28 pm
Trump nicknamed himself Honest Don

What does this have to do with the Maui fire?
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Jackie on March 15, 2024, 08:51:39 pm
Welp, time to watch Jo Jo Dancer, Richard Pryors Your life is calling.

https://tubitv.com/movies/674728/jo-jo-dancer-your-life-is-calling

FREE
Title: Re: Crumbling America
Post by: Sprocket on March 17, 2024, 04:44:42 pm
What does this have to do with the Maui fire?
Donald Trump lied about most of it..