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Title: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Faith on February 02, 2020, 06:24:06 am
I have been trying to follow this epidemic in China. It is quite obvious given the extreme measures they have taken that they are grossly understating the severity of this outbreak. They have isolated at least 60 million people, they are speed-building hospitals and now they are burning corpses without funerals.  Also, the US is setting up quarantine bases and preparing for calamity in ways that I never remember seeing during my lifetime.


I read that the number of Coronavirus infections doubles  roughly every 3 days, with death rate doubling at a similar rate, lagging by about 10 days... If this we’re to continue unabated the entire population of earth could be infected in 60 days, give or take.

Still I have trouble feeling sympathy for the Chinese given the way they treat animals in those disgusting "wet markets" of theirs and the practices of slaughtering endangered species for their bizarre and revolting culinary practices as well as the witchcraft of their 'traditional medicine'. 

Maybe hitting the reset button on our species is a long-overdue eventuality.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 02, 2020, 06:45:13 am
It's not that deadly.  I think our species will survive.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 03, 2020, 07:05:50 am
I think that the coronavirus is a part of the family of common cold viruses from what I have read about it. Am I correct?
It is in part but also from mammals and birds. I think the biggest part of it comes from the markets that China has that people buy exotic foods from.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 03, 2020, 10:12:19 am
I think that the coronavirus is a part of the family of common cold viruses from what I have read about it. Am I correct?

I didn't hear that.  I heard they think it comes from bats.  They did DNA sequence and it's closely related.  They think Sars did too.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 03, 2020, 10:17:28 am
The three most populous nations on Earth in order: China 1.44 billion.  India 1.38 billion. United States 0.33 billion   

Same countries listed in order by area: US 3.8 million square miles.  China 3.7 million square miles.  India 1.27 million square miles.

In India, there are 650 million people that do not have toilets in their homes..... twice the population of the US in a country less than half the size of the US are using the street as a latrine. 

Jesus Christ. I feel like washing my hands after typing this.

Much of the rest of the world isn't much better and yet somehow it's all our fault.

This modern belief we have in western nations that it's all our fault or all caused by colonialism is so effing laughable it makes me sick and it's just assumed to be true at many levels of society, in the government, and at the UN.

Almost all there places were horribly backwards awful places before europeans left Europe!  Many places were wealthy because becauze of resources too or the fact that trade routes passed through their land.  We no longer live in such a world.  Nations that are wealthy are technologically advanced and highly educated.  Europeans can look back to Ancient Rome and Greece for the foundations of our technology advanced culture.  Many places do not have that as well.  None of this is our fault however.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on February 03, 2020, 10:44:28 am
Much of the rest of the world isn't much better and yet somehow it's all our fault.

This modern belief we have in western nations that it's all our fault or all caused by colonialism is so effing laughable it makes me sick and it's just assumed to be true at many levels of society, in the government, and at the UN.

Almost all there places were horribly backwards awful places before europeans left Europe!  Many places were wealthy because becauze of resources too or the fact that trade routes passed through their land.  We no longer live in such a world.  Nations that are wealthy are technologically advanced and highly educated.  Europeans can look back to Ancient Rome and Greece for the foundations of our technology advanced culture.  Many places do not have that as well.  None of this is our fault however.
You left out Egypt, Persia, Japan. Perhaps a course in the early trade routes would be beneficial to your ignert racist azz. Here's an EZ guide to get started

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/86338/8-trade-routes-shaped-world-history

Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on February 03, 2020, 10:47:29 am
It was great until I started bragging about how great it was and then it turned into a blizzard. But there is only 45 days until the vernal equinox. I'm pinning a lot of hope on that.

https://faithblackshadow.tumblr.com/image/190593397259
What part of MI?  I'm from S.E. MI but have family throughout the state.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 03, 2020, 10:53:15 am
You left out Egypt, Persia, Japan. Perhaps a course in the early trade routes would be beneficial to your ignert racist azz. Here's an EZ guide to get started

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/86338/8-trade-routes-shaped-world-history

I specifically mentioned trade routes, dumb azz.  It's like I bring it up and you act like I didn't and try to take credit for mentioning its previous importance. 

I also said most.  Japan is an exception.  I commend them.  The Muslim worlds golden age ended with the renaissance... look it up.  It's almost exact to the date.  The Islamic world was good at preserving knowledge from the ancient world and the Arabic number system was good, but it never achieved anything close to what Rome did. 

The Islamic world flourished mostly due to over land trade routes and the fact that the Roman Empire fell.  Once Europe recovered they returned to their backward state.  Not even oil can save most Muslim nations except tiny Emirates.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 03, 2020, 11:15:05 am
Once upon a time having more farm land could make you a world power.  Egypt was the breadbasket in ancient times.  France for many centuries was more powerful than England during medieval times because France has a lot more farm land and a better climate. 

As I said, we no longer live in such a world. 

We live in a world where technologically advanced highly educated nations are wealthy.  You either get with the program or suffer.   If other nations choose not to get with the program, that is their choice and they can sleep in the bed they made. 

Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on February 03, 2020, 11:26:33 am
I specifically mentioned trade routes, dumb azz.  It's like I bring it up and you act like I didn't and try to take credit for mentioning its previous importance. 

I also said most.  Japan is an exception.  I commend them.  The Muslim worlds golden age ended with the renaissance... look it up.  It's almost exact to the date.  The Islamic world was good at preserving knowledge from the ancient world and the Arabic number system was good, but it never achieved anything close to what Rome did. 

The Islamic world flourished mostly due to over land trade routes and the fact that the Roman Empire fell.  Once Europe recovered they returned to their backward state.  Not even oil can save most Muslim nations except tiny Emirates.
What about the "mongol storm from the east" you must have attended religious school.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 03, 2020, 11:29:25 am
What about the "mongol storm from the east" you must have attended religious school.

They stormed the East and the west and conquered China many parts of the Middle East.

They were so effective because they were horsemen, the composite bow (which was not effective in the land of the ice and snow where I come from).  They were hard men and disciplined too.  I do believe if you gave hitler 9 million men like me we'd all be speaking german.  It can do a lot.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 03, 2020, 03:06:31 pm
I'm sorry. I really can't stand the Chinese. I hold them responsible for what they have done to the elephants, tigers, pangolins, sharks and Sterling Heights.

And the environment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution_in_China
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 03, 2020, 03:08:36 pm
I'm sorry. I really can't stand the Chinese. I hold them responsible for what they have done to the elephants, tigers, pangolins, sharks and Sterling Heights.
I don't blame all the Chinese because like some they don't realize what the government is doing to them.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 03, 2020, 03:09:57 pm
I'm sorry. I really can't stand the Chinese. I hold them responsible for what they have done to the elephants, tigers, pangolins, sharks and Sterling Heights.

My niece posted a video on Facebook of them cooking a live dog and pouring boiling water over it in a giant wok.  I couldn't watch more than a few seconds of it.  That dog was like my dogs and in such pain and just wanted out.  I don't want to watch that  😭
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 03, 2020, 03:17:21 pm
I don't blame all the Chinese because like some they don't realize what the government is doing to them.

They realize but can't do much about it after the Tiananmen Square protests which caused the deaths of hundreds to thousands of Chinese. Complete government power.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 03, 2020, 03:18:31 pm
My niece posted a video on Facebook of them cooking a live dog and pouring boiling water over it in a giant wok.  I couldn't watch more than a few seconds of it.  That dog was like my dogs and in such pain and just wanted out.  I don't want to watch that  😭

When my daughter worked there she couldn't eat much of the local food there.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 03, 2020, 03:20:52 pm
They realize but can't do much about it after the Tiananmen Square protests which caused the deaths of hundreds to thousands of Chinese. Complete government power.
Nope, because of them being a communist country
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 03, 2020, 03:22:59 pm
Nope, because of them being a communist country

Exactly. Complete government power. More government= less liberty, always.

Support Hong Kong. 

Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 03, 2020, 03:37:05 pm
Kinda like what the Dems want here, eh?

There's nothing like taking your freedom for granted.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on February 03, 2020, 04:45:02 pm
My niece posted a video on Facebook of them cooking a live dog and pouring boiling water over it in a giant wok.  I couldn't watch more than a few seconds of it.  That dog was like my dogs and in such pain and just wanted out.  I don't want to watch that  😭
You didn't think that post through did you?

I had the displeasure of serving with some ROK's in An Khe Vietnam and learned first hand how the Asians prepare dogs and it damn sure doesn't include watching the animal evacuate it's bowels in the cauldron.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUgdYRP50Ds
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on February 03, 2020, 04:56:36 pm
They stormed the East and the west and conquered China many parts of the Middle East.

They were so effective because they were horsemen, the composite bow (which was not effective in the land of the ice and snow where I come from).  They were hard men and disciplined too.  I do believe if you gave hitler 9 million men like me we'd all be speaking german.  It can do a lot.
Sensimilla? Is that the land you come from?
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 03, 2020, 05:03:40 pm
I don't know how a discussion about a infectious disease so quickly de-volved into the same old predictable and boring bullshit. 

I know how, any discussion with Teabag and pos always end up that way because they share one brain and is barely functioning, the part that is functioning is cliche driven repeats anything they hear and always misguided...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 03, 2020, 05:11:16 pm
So I order my ribs for super bowl.  Drive to the black per of town.  Meet my rib guy who has a truck and a big smoker that he pulls.  I go to window and say yeah, I'm here for my ribs ... I ordered them days ago.  Guy in the trailer says that talk to the guy in the truck.

I go and lay him and we shoot the shyte for a little bit ... asked me how I found him ... I said internet.  Pay and get my ribs.  Go in grocery store for some pop (it's pop, not soda) and I am only white side in entire store.

I get home and go to eat my ribs and:

So I texted him and he asked me how he can make it right and offered to meet me ... I just said if he could give me 2 free racks sometime that would be cool. 

Seriously wtf? 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on February 03, 2020, 05:14:03 pm
I don't know how a discussion about a infectious disease so quickly de-volved into the same old predictable and boring bullshit.  But for the record: There has never been one second of my life that my 'freedom' was in peril. I do not fear our government. I think our taxes are, for the most part, a bargain considering what we get in return. And lastly, not one US soldier in any war died for "my freedom". If the outcome of every single war the US ever fought in had been reversed or they had never been fought at all, life would not be radically different than it is now.   So let's get back to talking about something positive like the pending global pandemic that will wipe out hundreds of thousands...of which, neither the Democrats nor Donald Trump have ANYTHING at all to do with.
Something positive like a pandemic? 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 03, 2020, 05:27:21 pm
And I hate my stove.  I am getting a new gas stove. 

I swear my old stove was nice and went out maybe 5 years ago.  Got this stove and the way they designed it right away the black got scratches all over it and now one of the big burners won't turn on.  Thing is like 5 years old!  What a POS

I want a new washer and dryer too.  I am just gonna get a new stove and a new washer and a new dryer and have a dude come and run the gas line for me. 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 03, 2020, 05:32:50 pm
If I have my kids clean my stove and counters, they look like that the next day, lol.  Two or three times a week I make them take everything off and clean my counters.  Next day, they look like that, lol.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 03, 2020, 06:13:59 pm
I'm just happy that something has come along that will bump that boring-ass 'impeachment'  nonsense off my TV and provide some kind of on-going suspense for a while until the new season of Better Call Saul.  Also, I'm ready for a post-apocalyptic world.  There will be so much less traffic.

"The Wuhan coronavirus spreading from China is now likely to become a pandemic that circles the globe, according to many of the world’s leading infectious disease experts.

The prospect is daunting. A pandemic — an ongoing epidemic on two or more continents — may well have global consequences....In the last three weeks, the number of lab-confirmed cases has soared from about 50 in China to more than 17,000 in at least 23 countries; there have been more than 360 deaths.

But various epidemiological models estimate that the real number of cases is 100,000 or even more....It is “increasingly unlikely that the virus can be contained,” said Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, a former director of the Centers for Disease Control ....."

Yeah, I don't see how you are gonna stop it now.  Its possible to spread before symptoms show up too. 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 03, 2020, 06:20:29 pm
You didn't think that post through did you?

I had the displeasure of serving with some ROK's in An Khe Vietnam and learned first hand how the Asians prepare dogs and it damn sure doesn't include watching the animal evacuate it's bowels in the cauldron.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUgdYRP50Ds


I didn't watch the video.  So I don't know much about it.  I wouldn't want to watch another being suffer helplessly like that.  My mom ordered a lobster one time at a restaurant in Vegas ... hibachi and they literally put this thing in the grill in front of us and it was shrieking ... good thing my mom left yo use bathroom cause she ordered it and loves animals.  They cut the thing down the middle length wise and even then it was still alive and poured boiling grease over its insides.  I will never forget it.

I watched some cool documentaries on that and the viet cong were trying to infiltrate and they were also shelling with those huge azz mortars they hauled up onto some hill nearby.  The one guy in the documentary was outside the base I thinking hunting the viet Cong and one of those huge azz mortars landed nearby and I think he said it didn't impact into the ground and actually touched his leg ... they didn't arm the mortar before they shot it he said and it saved his life.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 03, 2020, 07:56:50 pm
We have a duty to *cherish* freedom; not take it for granted.....and to protect it with arms if necessary.

My thought s exactly, Pos. That was sarcasm.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 03, 2020, 08:00:25 pm
You didn't think that post through did you?

I had the displeasure of serving with some ROK's in An Khe Vietnam and learned first hand how the Asians prepare dogs and it damn sure doesn't include watching the animal evacuate it's bowels in the cauldron.



That was a displeasure. I wouldn't have got past the kimchi. 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 03, 2020, 08:02:46 pm
I know how, any discussion with Teabag and pos always end up that way because they share one brain and is barely functioning, the part that is functioning is cliche driven repeats anything they hear and always misguided...

All I added was the threat to our environment China was. It all went from there.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 08, 2020, 06:38:37 am
"A Chinese doctor who was silenced after trying to warn about the outbreak of coronavirus has "died of the disease", according to reports.

Li Wenliang, 34, an ophthalmologist at Wuhan Central Hospital, sent a message in a chat group on 30 December to fellow doctors warning them of a possible virus outbreak.


Dr Li shared the warning after he noticed seven cases of a virus he thought resembles Sars, the deadly illness which spread in 2003.

Four days after his warning he was called to a police station to sign a letter in which he was accused of “making false comments” that had “severely disturbed the social order”.

He was one of eight people identified by police for allegedly “spreading rumours”....... and he ended up dead."

China is a communist country and speaking out against it leads to serious consequences.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Texas Pete on February 08, 2020, 07:59:30 pm
I received a shipment from  Zhejiang a week and a half ago, a large box of rubber products.
I hope I don't catch anything from it!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on February 10, 2020, 07:54:52 am
Meanwhile__about 80,000 Americans died from Flu related illnesses during the 2017-2018 winter Flu season.

So...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on February 10, 2020, 10:00:25 am
(http://)
We all have to die of something someday.
Rather not die of the flu though...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 10, 2020, 11:04:39 am
People die of the flu in their sleep after a  couple days.  Beats the hell out of shuffling around an nursing home in diapers for two years not knowing where you are...Or after a year of radiation and chemo.    I already know what's going to kill me; same thing that kills most people up here... winter. Call it whatever strikes your fancy.   But I have a long way to go before I get that weak. So it's not worth worrying about.

So they will find you frozen in diapers.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on February 10, 2020, 04:32:13 pm
Billionaire Whistleblower: Wuhan Coronavirus Death Toll Is Over 50,000

https://www.ccn.com/billionaire-whistleblower-wuhan-coronavirus-death-toll-is-over-50000/


He has never failed a fact check.
And you have never passed one.

But ccn.com has failed every fact check.

What? Are you a beginner troll?
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on February 10, 2020, 04:40:35 pm
The Chinese kill 100 million sharks a year to use in their disgusting cuisine. They have brought tigers, elephants, rhinos, pangolins, sun bears and countless other species to the brink of extinction with their greed and bizarre superstitions and witch-doctory.
In China SEX is a byproduct of HEALTH. Weird deal those folks have going on over there.

But then even here, just about everybody does everything in order to get laid.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jimmy on February 10, 2020, 07:49:37 pm
All I can say is that I'm glad my Lily White English/Polish ass isn't Xenophonian and this thread is dumb.

The end
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 14, 2020, 06:07:34 pm
It's not that deadly.  I think our species will survive.

I hope so, and not just a select few.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 15, 2020, 12:40:15 pm
The three most populous nations on Earth in order: China 1.44 billion.  India 1.38 billion. United States 0.33 billion   

Same countries listed in order by area: US 3.8 million square miles.  China 3.7 million square miles.  India 1.27 million square miles.

In India, there are 650 million people that do not have toilets in their homes..... twice the population of the US in a country less than half the size of the US are using the street as a latrine. 

Jesus Christ. I feel like washing my hands after typing this.

Me too!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 15, 2020, 02:21:38 pm
This brings to mind an event on the fringe of my memory. When I was a child, there was a plague going around that all of the children were falling to. As hard as it is to believe, my mother sent me to the house of quarantined victims of that awful scourge in order that I would become purposefully infected with their pathogen.
Now I don't feel guilty about not feeling guilty about never visiting her in that 'home' my sister stuck her in.
So after having survived the  Pox, I have no fear of this Chinese Flu coming our way.

Sounds like Mommie Dearest (like the movie character), or maybe she just wanted to you to help the sick quarantined victoms.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 15, 2020, 04:02:16 pm
Thinking back, they also performed unnecessary surgery on my when I was like 5 too.  They lured me into a hospital with a promise of ice cream, knocked me out and cut something out of my throat.  Maybe it was army doctors. There was a lot of that kind of thing going on back in the 60's.  I have a weird circular scar on my shoulder too where they shot something into me... they probably implanted a microchip under my skin.    It was a magical time.
Probably your tonsils were taken out. And they gave a vaccination that is the round circular shot. I have one but I am not into that I was implanted with something. 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 15, 2020, 04:04:02 pm
I was pregnant with my son when my first two girls got Chicken Pox. We were in San Francisco visiting family. Chicken Pox can cause some problems for an unborn fetus. I called my Mom to see if I had had chicken pox and she couldn't remember. I had to get a test to check to see if I had them - turns out I had a mild case at some point in my life so I couldn't get them again. My oldest daughter had a couple of chicken pox that showed up and my second daughter was covered head to toe. Not sure why I'm even posting this - I suppose like the different reactions my girls had to Chicken Pox the same is true for Coronavirus. Most of us may not even know that we've gotten it.

I was wondering how your Mom was doing. My Dad died on Tuesday - been a rough week.
I am so sorry to hear about your Dad, CC. My father would be 91 this coming week if he was still living. I miss him a lot as I was always his girl.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 16, 2020, 11:04:42 am
Thank You - the shock has worn off and now I just feel eh. My parents live (lived) on 8 acres. It's a beautiful piece of paradise. There are a good 20 bird feeders and my Dad would go out daily and replenish the bird seed. My Mom will continue with that. I did it for 2 months last year after they were in a head on collision. I'm originally from NY - Where their home is.
Time sometimes heals all wounds.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 16, 2020, 03:21:23 pm
Thinking back, they also performed unnecessary surgery on my when I was like 5 too.  They lured me into a hospital with a promise of ice cream, knocked me out and cut something out of my throat.  Maybe it was army doctors. There was a lot of that kind of thing going on back in the 60's.  I have a weird circular scar on my shoulder too where they shot something into me... they probably implanted a microchip under my skin.    It was a magical time.

That doesn't sound magical. Maybe in those days people thought that was the best thing to do for healths sake.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 16, 2020, 03:22:50 pm
That doesn't sound magical. Maybe in those days people thought that was the best thing to do for healths sake.

Your post about the throught thing reminds me of a part from a movie with Tom Cruise called Money I think.
I'll try to find the clip on utube.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 16, 2020, 03:27:49 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjN9Qe237bw

I cant find the scene about the hole in a guys throught, but this scene is good too.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 16, 2020, 03:57:11 pm
When I was a child, they would march us down into tunnels under the school and made us sit cross-legged on the floor against the wall.  We were happy to get out of class for those drills and were glad knowing we would be safe if the Russians attacked us with atomic weapons.
And in the summer, a man would walk down the street tacking paper signs to all the elm trees warning people to move their cars out of the street. Then a truck would come by towing a trailer with a guy sitting on a machine that sprayed up into the canopy of the trees.  The other kids and me would run after the truck laughing as the DDT fell down on us like a cool rain. The man on the trailer would wave and smile.
Those were great times. The world was never so orderly and safe as it was during the Cold War. Al Kaline. Neil Armstrong ...and so forth.

Interesting. I didn't know the cold war took place in the 60"s. I was never good in History.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 16, 2020, 04:00:57 pm
I was pregnant with my son when my first two girls got Chicken Pox. We were in San Francisco visiting family. Chicken Pox can cause some problems for an unborn fetus. I called my Mom to see if I had had chicken pox and she couldn't remember. I had to get a test to check to see if I had them - turns out I had a mild case at some point in my life so I couldn't get them again. My oldest daughter had a couple of chicken pox that showed up and my second daughter was covered head to toe. Not sure why I'm even posting this - I suppose like the different reactions my girls had to Chicken Pox the same is true for Coronavirus. Most of us may not even know that we've gotten it.

I was wondering how your Mom was doing. My Dad died on Tuesday - been a rough week.

Sorry to hear that, my condolances. My dad doesn't remember who I am. We were close, but that all changed.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on February 17, 2020, 08:26:53 am
The US Military (probably USAMRIID and CDC) has set up 15 "Quarantine Camps" around the country in anticipation of the necessity of housing people infected with the Chinese plague. (http://) Wow man. If I get infected, they'll probably try and send me to Detroit. That's far worse than whatever the plague could do to me. I suppose that in that event, I will go on the lam.
Good restaurants, terrific music, what's not to like?

Tad bit chilly presently though.

Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 17, 2020, 05:51:03 pm
You can imagine what's going through my mind up here. These hillbillies have a reason why they think it's necessary to kill everything that moves...raccoons, marmots, deer, coyotes.... It's sickening. That's why I hope the 2nd Amendment gets repealed and private gun ownership gets banned. Because the same people that get off on guns are the ones that kill living beings for entertainment.  Listening to their bullshit enrages me.  Coyotes are dogs.  When my ducks see my car pull in after work they come running. I couldn't even imagine anyone wanting to shoot them for no other reason but because they are trying to compensate for their own insecurity and feeling of powerlessness and lack of nuts.  It's obscene.   
Christ. I wish I wouldn't have got started on this rant. I could go on for days.
Not everyone who owns guns hunts. Guns are for protection. Coyotes being dogs also have been known to take down a calf and once they get the taste of blood in them they continue to kill. Farmers depend on those cows for a livelihood depending on whether a beef or dairy cow.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 17, 2020, 06:38:02 pm
I don't need "protection". I'm not against guns per se. I just don't like gun weirdos. And despite the fact that there is coyotes living in my backyard, or maybe my house happens to be in their backyard, I have never had a bad encounter with them. I'm glad they're here. If I didn't want to live around them, I'd move back to the city. Then I would have to worry about real predators and I probably would be inclined toward carrying a pistol again. I'm not sympathetic to farmers and ranchers and their non-stop whining thinking they deserve special rights either. If they don't want coyotes get to their calfs, they should keep them secured.
They shouldn't have to worry about coydogs getting to their calves. You can't determine when a cow is going to calf but most cows prefer having calves out in the field over being penned up same as horses do. You obviously don't have a clue how some farmers are and being that I was raised on a farm, we didn't go around crying about special rights unless you chose to come onto posted private property and then you might find yourself looking down the barrel of a shotgun. We did it to protect the land, the animals and to keep people from being hurt by a bull or poaching on our land. Hate to tell you, but even in the city, there are coyotes.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 17, 2020, 06:51:56 pm
Brag was a good ole dog until he died.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 17, 2020, 07:07:30 pm
Really? Then why are you telling me what a pillar of virtue you think you are?
Never said I was but I am not a braggart either. If I post I did something or know someone then it is the truth. Not my fault, you can't  figure that out.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 17, 2020, 07:08:45 pm
Knew these guys were bad - Garden Bros Circus

http://arff.org/garden-circuses

http://arff.org/garden-circuses
They had some circus just here but not sure who it was. We went several years ago and it was mainly trapeze, clowns and dog and pony acts.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 17, 2020, 07:14:05 pm
I guess my point sailed right over your head. Sorry.
Nope, you would have to have a point first and you don't.  You are no pillar of anything on here.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 17, 2020, 07:14:51 pm
Aw Jackie - sorry to hear that about your Dad. Talked to my brothers a lot this weekend which was good.

Your fortunate you have brothers. Being an only child has downfalls.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 17, 2020, 07:16:24 pm
I'm getting a little burned out on people mixing religion,  faux 'patriotism' and the gun rap.  If you don't agree with the left, you're a 'racist' and if you don't agree with the weirdos on the right, you hate Jesus and America.  Is it any wonder I don't vote? I don't want to give anyone the satisfaction.
If you don't vote, you have absolutely no right to gripe about anything. I vote and even if my vote doesn't count, ar least I have the right to complain about the government or lack of government..
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 05:39:58 am
I'm not griping about the government. I like the government I think our taxes are a bargain. I think the US Postal Service is the most amazing agency in all of human history. The National Weather Service, NASA, CDC are awesome.  And the real American heroes are not the troops, they are the guys that plow the snow and pick up the garbage. I thank THEM for their service; because they actually have a direct, tangible and positive effect on each of our lives.   So save your self-righteous crap for someone that's buying. I'm not. If farmers and ranchers are unhappy with the circumstance of their vocation, they are free to choose another.
Those things have been provided by taxes  but I know you often don't get that. You **** about taxes and health care but you have absolutely no right to complain. People like you don't because you don't vote.
By the way, the next time you eat that food that you buy you might remember it is the farmer who chose to provide it for you along with the semi truck driver who.brings it your grocery. Yeah, go up to a veteran and tell him or her that after all, they are the ones that have given you the right to complain. The teachers are the one who have taught you and the veteran the ones who have given you that right. By the way all, those services you listed are paid by taxes and government,  the one you don't bother to vote in. Those people are doing a job and can choose a different vocation also since that seems to be your answer for everything.  I hate to inform you but a lot of them can't find better jibs or want to change out of those jobs. After all, money is decent, retirement,  benefits.
But I know you are too ignorant to get that. So you save your self righteous bullshit for someone else because you are too stupid to see who provides for you to have the vegetables and meats you eat. People like you always come with that self righteous bullshit when they are the ones being that way. Come back when you have proof that you don't complain about our government.  You do, everyone does, difference is most people who complain vote.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 06:25:32 am
Blah blah blah. No veteran in any war that America has ever fought did anything that "gave me the right" to do anything ever. If every war America has ever fought in was never fought or had a completely opposite outcome, my life would not be changed in any recognizable way. The US lost Vietnam. Yet I'm not speaking Vietnamese. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan accomplished zero. WWI was none of our business, likewise Korea. If the Germans and Japanese would  had won WWII, it would mean nothing for me today. They would never have occupied this country.


Our Revolutionary War could have been settled the same way Canada's was. One day I noticed the portrait of Queen Elizabeth wasn't hanging on the wall of the ice rink in Windsor. When I asked the guy selling Coca Cola about it, he told me Canada had gained their independence from England. I said "Good for you" and he shrugged.

 The farmers and ranchers have chosen the occupation they have and deserve no more thanks than I get for doing my job or the mailmen and garbage collectors get.  And I absolutely have a right to say and do anything I want regardless if I vote. Frankly there hasn't been anyone worth voting for since 1984. And in that election, I did vote and my candidate won.

I'm too young to have been drafted for Vietnam. But if that had happened, I would have just rented an apartment on the other side of the river and lived in Sarnia until it was over. There is no chance in hell I would even consider interrupting my life and risk getting killed or having my legs blown off for some specious load of bullshit that some politician cooked up. A human lifetime is far too short to waste on that nonsense.

My duty is to myself and my family.

I'm done buying into obvious fraud without question  just because a certain segment of the population thinks I should. I outgrew bullshit religion and I have outgrown the brand of bullshit fake patriotism that is foisted on us.

There you go. How's that?
TLDR, it was blah, blah, blah. Go fyo.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 06:40:22 am
Right. Unable to respond. Figures.
Nope, just don't believe your bullshit.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 06:59:17 am
It's just that you aren't very bright and can't think for yourself.
Actually,  brighter than you. I don't believe your bullshit and I imagine no one else does either. You keep thinking that if those wars wouldn't have happened it wouldn't have affected you and you are so wrong but you believe that nonsense. The rest of us know better and actually have the sense to know how the outcome would have been if the U.S. hadn't gotten involved. Your stupidity reeks. Now I am sure you will be on here the rest of the day because it is all you have. I have things to do and a family to get going for school and work.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 09:38:26 am
This is kind of the ethos I'm living these days...   I read that 60% of the bankruptcies in the US are due to insurmountable medical bills that people are suddenly confronted with. many times, they are bushwhacked because no one is ever told of the potential costs of any medical procedures up front. So they go into a situation trying to maybe save their own life and they end up broke and homeless. ... in America, to the Middle Class..and to people with insurance. It happens every day.  I'm healthy and have (hopefully) decent coverage. So I don't worry too much.

  From where I live, if you drive east across an 800 foot long bridge, you end up in Canada. It is essentially the same people living on the same land. I have lived in Michigan my whole life and I can't tell a Canadian from a Michigander unless they tell me.  Probably half the money in my pocket right now is Canadian currency and half the cars on the road have Ontario plates.

As an American, I would say we have done miraculous things with industry and science. Men on the Moon...Voyager, Hubble... on and on. Yet despite that we are the richest, most powerful and most technologically advanced nation in human history, we are the ONLY developed nation that does not provide universal care for its citizens.  People say we can't afford it.

Yet, 800 feet away, the Canadians afford it. They have one one-hundredth of the crime we have, universal health care, a higher standard of living and a longer life expectancy.  ..... Por que?

perhaps if the US was not bogged down in the mentality of spending trillions on pointless foreign wars on behalf of people that hate us and  don't want our soldiers in their shitty little countries, we could afford it.

And along those same lines, as long as there is even one American citizen that is hungry, homeless or without access to health care, we have no business at all allowing foreign nationals to come here uninvited and hop on the public dole.

Probably when I was 18 or 20 and if there had been a draft, I would have been stupid enough to fall for it. Boys are always full of false bravado and lack sense. That's why they are used as soldiers. They are too stupid to know that they're being played.  And if I had a son and there was a draft and there was some stupid ass war going on in Asia or the Middle East, I'd buy him a condo in Ontario. Because there is nothing...and I mean nothing in the realm of faux 'patriotism', bullshit religion or senseless politics that is even close to being worth risking your well-being for.

Look at the wars in Vietnam and Iraq.... It is widely accepted that those were giant mistakes... Oh well.


Trump administration unveils plan to allow states to buy cheaper drugs from Canada

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2019/12/18/trump-administration-unveils-plan-allow-states-buy-cheaper-drugs-canada/


Florida can import Canadian drugs

https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2019/12/18/feds-announce-approval-of-florida-importing-prescription-drugs-from-canada/

Are you being fooled again?

Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 09:39:00 am
This is kind of the ethos I'm living these days...   I read that 60% of the bankruptcies in the US are due to insurmountable medical bills that people are suddenly confronted with. many times, they are bushwhacked because no one is ever told of the potential costs of any medical procedures up front. So they go into a situation trying to maybe save their own life and they end up broke and homeless. ... in America, to the Middle Class..and to people with insurance. It happens every day.  I'm healthy and have (hopefully) decent coverage. So I don't worry too much.

  From where I live, if you drive east across an 800 foot long bridge, you end up in Canada. It is essentially the same people living on the same land. I have lived in Michigan my whole life and I can't tell a Canadian from a Michigander unless they tell me.  Probably half the money in my pocket right now is Canadian currency and half the cars on the road have Ontario plates.

As an American, I would say we have done miraculous things with industry and science. Men on the Moon...Voyager, Hubble... on and on. Yet despite that we are the richest, most powerful and most technologically advanced nation in human history, we are the ONLY developed nation that does not provide universal care for its citizens.  People say we can't afford it.

Yet, 800 feet away, the Canadians afford it. They have one one-hundredth of the crime we have, universal health care, a higher standard of living and a longer life expectancy.  ..... Por que?

perhaps if the US was not bogged down in the mentality of spending trillions on pointless foreign wars on behalf of people that hate us and  don't want our soldiers in their shitty little countries, we could afford it.

And along those same lines, as long as there is even one American citizen that is hungry, homeless or without access to health care, we have no business at all allowing foreign nationals to come here uninvited and hop on the public dole.

Probably when I was 18 or 20 and if there had been a draft, I would have been stupid enough to fall for it. Boys are always full of false bravado and lack sense. That's why they are used as soldiers. They are too stupid to know that they're being played.  And if I had a son and there was a draft and there was some stupid ass war going on in Asia or the Middle East, I'd buy him a condo in Ontario. Because there is nothing...and I mean nothing in the realm of faux 'patriotism', bullshit religion or senseless politics that is even close to being worth risking your well-being for.

Look at the wars in Vietnam and Iraq.... It is widely accepted that those were giant mistakes... Oh well. 

Your ethos sucks.  I know you probably haven't thought of this ... cause it again would require more than a knee jerk thought, but who do you suppose throws out that 60 percent number?  People like Bernie Sanders.  Why does he do this .. cause like all liberals, he wants to frighten people into giving liberals more of their money and more power. 

But let's stop and use our brains here for a moment.  What usually also happens when people have serious medical problems that produce serious medical bills.  C'mon use that brain of yours and think.

What did you come up with?  Did it occur to you that when folks have such health problems they very frequently can't work and that has a lot to do with bankruptcies too and that very likely is the cause of said bankruptcies.  Maybe they can't ever go back to work.  National healthcare isn't gonna fix that.  It's also gonna do this:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/while-americans-pine-for-medicare-for-all-canadians-look-for-us-style-private-insurance

"Last year, Canadians faced a median wait of nearly 21 weeks to receive specialist treatment after getting referred by a general practitioner. Certain procedures come with longer waits. End-to-end, patients waited a median of 39 weeks for orthopedic surgery in 2019."

***

Why would anyone with good insurance want crap care like that.  Canada is great if you have the sniffles, but if you have something serious, you'd much rather be an American with insurance.  Heck, in Canada you might not have to declare bankruptcy due to medical issues, cause you might be dead before you even can see a specialist!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 09:45:10 am
Your ethos sucks.  I know you probably haven't thought of this ... cause it again would require more than a knee jerk thought, but who do you suppose throws out that 60 percent number?  People like Bernie Sanders.  Why does he do this .. cause like all liberals, he wants to frighten people into giving liberals more of their money and more power. 

But let's stop and use our brains here for a moment.  What usually also happens when people have serious medical problems that produce serious medical bills.  C'mon use that brain of yours and think.

What did you come up with?  Did it occur to you that when folks have such health problems they very frequently can't work and that has a lot to do with bankruptcies too and that very likely is the cause of said bankruptcies.  Maybe they can't ever go back to work.  National healthcare isn't gonna fix that.  It's also gonna do this:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/while-americans-pine-for-medicare-for-all-canadians-look-for-us-style-private-insurance

"Last year, Canadians faced a median wait of nearly 21 weeks to receive specialist treatment after getting referred by a general practitioner. Certain procedures come with longer waits. End-to-end, patients waited a median of 39 weeks for orthopedic surgery in 2019."

***

Why would anyone with good insurance want crap care like that.  Canada is great if you have the sniffles, but if you have something serious, you'd much rather be an American with insurance.  Heck, in Canada you might not have to declare bankruptcy due to medical issues, cause you might be dead before you even can see a specialist!

And a doctor shortage.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/canadas-doctor-shortage-will-only-worsen-in-the-coming-decade

Who would want to put in all of the efforts there is to become a doctor when your income is regulated? When people parrot healthcare is a right are not think of the rights of the doctors and nurses.

Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 09:50:47 am
And a doctor shortage.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/canadas-doctor-shortage-will-only-worsen-in-the-coming-decade

Who would want to put in all of the efforts there is to become a doctor when your income is regulated? When people parrot healthcare is a right are not think of the rights of the doctors and nurses.

Isn't it so strange that these deeply compassionate democrats, like Bernie, never mention any of this?  It's all puppy dogs and ice cream according to them.  The reality is they don't want people to know all the pros and cons ... they just want to preach supposed pros ... and most of their pros are distortions.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 10:10:49 am
What is keeping you from getting dual citizenship?

I know right.  I want to see faith move there and wait 39 weeks to have orthopedic surgery ... that's the median too ... it is even longer than that in 50 percent of the cases ... and come tell us how awesome the care is, lol.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 10:16:36 am
This 60 percent bankruptcy number ... it is so dishonest it is sickening.

Fact is most people in this country live paycheck to paycheck.  Very few have 6 months of savings in cash.  Given this, if one is simply unable to work for any extended period of time, that alone is going to cause severe financial hardship.  If you are just getting by as it was and now you are 4 months, sat behind in bills, it might not be possible to get out and you might be in a situation where every month you are going backwards.  Maybe even if you do go back to work you aren't making as much money as you were before.

^^^ that is the reality of a lot of people who declare bankruptcy.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 10:23:05 am
I know right.  I want to see faith move there and wait 39 weeks to have orthopedic surgery ... that's the median too ... it is even longer than that in 50 percent of the cases ... and come tell us how awesome the care is, lol.

Do they have open borders with free healthcare for illegals?   :)
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 10:26:39 am
I don't read your posts. You're too boring and simple minded to be entertaining.

So, you are being fooled again.

I'll bet it was that great government you think is a bargain that sent your brother to Vietnam.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 10:29:29 am
You ignore my posts cause I make you look like the idiot you are who ran the factories your daddy left you into the ground.  Shyte I would have been Tony Stark.

Eff I wouldn't want to read someone pointing out my stupidity daily either, if I were you.  So we agree on something for once.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 10:30:30 am
I think she makes some great points however.  If I lived where I could drive east across an 800 foot bridge, I would go for dual citizenship. I also believe that sooner or later Canada and the US will eventually merge.....Possibly along with Greenland

Maybe, but I don't see that in my lifetime. 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 11:56:34 am
My father-in-law went bankrupt from medical cost and he HAD insurance and he was himself a surgeon.  He ended up with diabetes and Parkinson's and it drained every nickel he had..... and it was a lot.  Canada's health care system is superior to ours. So is France's. Almost all developed nation's have better service than ours.

My colleague has Parkinson's ... He isn't being drained.  I don't think it costs him much at all.  Just for meds, which probably isn't any more than I pay for meds for my son with autism. Plenty of people have diabetes and it doesn't drain them.

If he was a surgeon he should have had short term and Long term disability insurance.  Long term can provide you with 70% of your income until you are 65.  Also being a surgeon and being able to declare bankruptcy is wonderful cause you can get rid of all your debt and then keep all your rather substantial income after that.  All your debt is wiped and if you are smart and have LTD you are making 70% of a surgeons salary on LTD ... shyte could certainly be much worse.

So, I am not really buying i need Medicaid for all cause of your personal experience.  Under Bernie's Medicaid for all (it won't be anything like Medicare for all) you won't have a nice urgent care to go to.  Every hospital will be like county hospitals in Chicago ... you also won't have a choice if they ban private insurance like Canada does.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 11:59:06 am
Your ethos sucks.  I know you probably haven't thought of this ... cause it again would require more than a knee jerk thought, but who do you suppose throws out that 60 percent number?  People like Bernie Sanders.  Why does he do this .. cause like all liberals, he wants to frighten people into giving liberals more of their money and more power. 

But let's stop and use our brains here for a moment.  What usually also happens when people have serious medical problems that produce serious medical bills.  C'mon use that brain of yours and think.

What did you come up with?  Did it occur to you that when folks have such health problems they very frequently can't work and that has a lot to do with bankruptcies too and that very likely is the cause of said bankruptcies.  Maybe they can't ever go back to work.  National healthcare isn't gonna fix that.  It's also gonna do this:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/while-americans-pine-for-medicare-for-all-canadians-look-for-us-style-private-insurance

"Last year, Canadians faced a median wait of nearly 21 weeks to receive specialist treatment after getting referred by a general practitioner. Certain procedures come with longer waits. End-to-end, patients waited a median of 39 weeks for orthopedic surgery in 2019."

***

Why would anyone with good insurance want crap care like that.  Canada is great if you have the sniffles, but if you have something serious, you'd much rather be an American with insurance.  Heck, in Canada you might not have to declare bankruptcy due to medical issues, cause you might be dead before you even can see a specialist!
I have friends who live in Canada and they say their health insurance sucks. She has had several medical emergencies come up and can't even get in tonsee a specialist without a long wait. He served in the Canadian military and has issues and they won't even treat him.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 11:59:52 am
My colleague has Parkinson's ... He isn't being drained.  I don't think it costs him much at all.  Just for meds, which probably isn't any more than I pay for meds for my son with autism. Plenty of people have diabetes and it doesn't drain them.

If he was a surgeon he should have had short term and Long term disability insurance.  Long term can provide you with 70% of your income until you are 65.  Also being a surgeon and being able to declare bankruptcy is wonderful cause you can get rid of all your debt and then keep all your rather substantial income after that.  All your debt is wiped and if you are smart and have LTD you are making 70% of a surgeons salary on LTD ... shyte could certainly be much worse.

So, I am not really buying i need Medicaid for all cause of your personal experience.  Under Bernie's Medicaid for all (it won't be anything like Medicare for all) you won't have a nice urgent care to go to.  Every hospital will be like county hospitals in Chicago ... you also won't have a choice if they ban private insurance like Canada does.
Yep, my cousin has Parkinson's and he isn't being drained either.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 12:02:56 pm
I have friends who live in Canada and they say their health insurance sucks. She has had several medical emergencies come up and can't even get in tonsee a specialist without a long wait. He served in the Canadian military and has issues and they won't even treat him.

It's getting worse over time too and that is despite healthcare costs consuming more and more of the entire budget.  So even unsustainable spending isn't maintaining quality of care.

People forget that the post war era was a boom time for the west economically ... it's much easy to finance these programs when your economy is growing like gangbusters.  That level of growth you aren't seeing anymore and in fact growth is anemic in many countries.  Pretty much every country with socialized medicine is facing a crunch and their taxes are already so high they can't tax their way out of it.  That leaves only one option ... decline in quality of care.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 12:10:55 pm
Reading the comments here reminds  me that it is  amazing how gullible the unintelligent are. Morons believe any line of bullshit that is being peddled to them. I'm guessing not one of you is self employed. That clearly take the stones  none of you possess.

Why would I want to be self employed?  I get 35 days vacation.  I have a 401k match and a pension.  Work falls into my lap ... so I have job security.  I just have to show up or work from home and get my work done and I send a lot of that out and have other lawyers do it ... sometimes them doing all the work and just coming to me for approval ... sometimes me revising their work ... sometimes me giving them instructions of how I want them to do the work.

I never have to worry about finding clients or work to do.  I get to work with technology your pea brain wouldn't even understand to boot.  The kind of shyte that is gonna change the world as we know it.

Private practice blows in comparisons. Always looking for more work and even when you have enough you have to worry that it might dry up ... especially if you are a litigator.  I get to do so much more too ... from litigation to licenses to development agreements to FTOs to working on development teams and even inventing things myself that have been filed as patents.

I have the golden ticket and I'm very good at what I do too. So everyone wins!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 12:18:08 pm
Guess what happens if my work loaf slows down ... I keep myself busy and give less work to the schmoes like Faith who work for themselves but rely on me to give them my work yo keep them busy.  So I have the work and I have the security and my job is way more interesting.  A firm is a rat race too and athlete can be a lot of drama.  Partners don't always get along ... associates jockeying to make partner.  I don't deal with any of that.  I just always act in the business's best interest and always look out for the company and protect it and advance its interests.  That's all that matters to me.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Texas Pete on February 18, 2020, 12:20:45 pm
I'm guessing none of you have A) ever been to Canada... or B) actually ever talked to a person from Canada.
I have been to Canada and knew an older lady from there, she was afraid to visit her son in the US
because she was afraid she would get sick and have to depend on our health care. She really liked her
health care.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Texas Pete on February 18, 2020, 12:26:02 pm
I've been self employed since 1992 but still work at a company so I could pay taxes and have health insurance.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Texas Pete on February 18, 2020, 12:41:48 pm
Hi Texas Pete! I hope you are well!

:-)
Hi CC!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Texas Pete on February 18, 2020, 12:43:12 pm
Actually, Obama care was the one and only thing that sticks out in my mind as being the one and only tangible thing the Federal Government ever did that impacted my life directly in a positive way.   Not that I was a fan of Obama. I really wasn't paying attention.  I know his wife makes me sick.
It was a start that was meant to be improved upon but Republicans have sought to do away with it instead.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 12:57:22 pm
I'm guessing none of you have A) ever been to Canada... or B) actually ever talked to a person from Canada.
I have never been to Canada but have talked with plenty of my friends who actually live there and they say the health insurance sucks.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 01:01:52 pm
Yes. Of course. I'm sure there are plenty of Canadians in Kentucky. Why wouldn't there be?
My friends live in Canada not here in Kentucky or is that hard for you to understand that I actually have friends that live all over the U.S., Canada and Europe. Duh.  Your stupidity is astounding, did I say Canadian's who live in Kentucky,  no ignorant one, I said that I have friends who live in Canada. Your reading comprenshion skills suck.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Texas Pete on February 18, 2020, 01:02:50 pm
Yes. Of course. I'm sure there are plenty of Canadians in Kentucky. Why wouldn't there be?
We have lots of Mexicans here in Kentucky but Canadians I don't know. I lived in Washington state and visited Vancouver Island. I had friends in Victoria and stayed with them.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 01:04:13 pm
We have lots of Mexicans here in Kentucky but Canadians I don't know. I lived in Washington state and visited Vancouver Island. I had friends in Victoria and stayed with them.
It has a hard time understanding that people can have friends all the world. Heck, Paganbirdkeeper lives in Europe and I am friends with her and several others who live in Europe and all over.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 01:05:43 pm
I think the plague has hit this thread ;D We knew it was coming, hehe.
Hahahaha
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 01:17:19 pm
Hmmm. You seem very angry and insecure. I'm going to go out on a limb here...are you a ...well....large gal?
Nope, I have no insecurities or anger at all nor am I a large gal. I am sure you would like to think that but hate to disappoint you. You seem to have an unhealthy obsession over that.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 01:18:05 pm
Wow man. I was actually just guessing when I said Kentucky.
BS, you probably knew that and just think you guessed it. You aren't that smart.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Chucky on February 18, 2020, 01:19:13 pm
Kentucky hospitals are great... Especially U.K. where i was born ... The ones in Irvine treat you like a king whether you have health insurance or not...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 01:21:03 pm
I do agree with you on not wanting Medicaid for all. I thought that the Affordable Care Act worked really well - at least for me after my divorce. I couldn't afford to pay $800+ COBRA to keep my health insurance immediately after my divorce and several months later when I started getting maintenance from my ex I went to get health insurance but was turned away because of a pre-existing condition - I had Thyroid Cancer 10 years earlier. I went 3 years without health insurance and then Obamacare passed. My ex and I were in the 38% tax bracket at the time and I had been a stay at home Mom for a good 15 years at that point after having worked at our local University in IT and having taught an IT class. One of my bigger regrets is not having continued to work even part time. I was hired back at that University 4 1/2 years ago and love my health insurance. My work pays over $1,000 a month for me. I pay $50 a month for dental and vision. I believe everyone should have access to great, affordable healthcare - I just don't want to lose what I have now. I love Bernie but don't agree with all that he says. Free stuff for everyone is not what I'm about. If you're able bodied and mentally capable you should work. My God, they're letting crops rot because they don't have enough immigrants to do the labor, Americans are ridiculous. I know you have a son with Autism and I have a daughter with a Non-Verbal Learning disorder. My daughter even after being deemed fully disabled by the state of CO went out and got a job. I'm assuming that your son either works or will work too.

I don't care too much what they do, but I am with you.  I don't want to be part of it. 

I had to go on cobra when the recession hit and it was 1200 a month.  BC/BS would have covered all of us except they refused to cover my son for about $500 a month, so that wasn't an option for us.  We had to go on cobra.

We are gonna get him disability ... gonna probably nite a lawyer to just deal with it.  He has documented disability since he was a one year old ... state of IL was really good and we had multiple therapist coming out to our home every week to work with him. <<< that sort of thing I support and not just cause of my kid.  He has a social worker advocate who we meet with too ... she works with the school and he part of his diploma is working.  I have been pretty impressed with everything and the options the state offers.  They said they almost always decline disability the first time ... so we may have to appeal.  He will get it though without a doubt.

We'll see if he works.  That's the goal.  He really wants to work with trains and I guess someone with his class interned for Norfolk Southern and then got a job working for them.  So I guess they are supportive.  Like seriously he is obsessed with working for a train company and has been for years and years.  Really that's what he needs cause if it's something he is interested in he is super focused.  We'll see. 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 01:22:30 pm
Kentucky hospitals are great... Especially U.K. where i was born ... The ones in Irvine treat you like a king whether you have health insurance or not...
That is good. University of Kentucky is also doing a study on people who have had family members who have had cancer and Parkinson's to see if it is an inherited gene that causes one to get that. My cousin, actually my husband's cousin, his whole family of brothers, sister, his kids and grandkids have undergone a study on that to see if they have a gene on that.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 01:24:55 pm
I don't care too much what they do, but I am with you.  I don't want to be part of it. 

I had to go on cobra when the recession hit and it was 1200 a month.  BC/BS would have covered all of us except they refused to cover my son for about $500 a month, so that wasn't an option for us.  We had to go on cobra.

We are gonna get him disability ... gonna probably nite a lawyer to just deal with it.  He has documented disability since he was a one year old ... state of IL was really good and we had multiple therapist coming out to our home every week to work with him. <<< that sort of thing I support and not just cause of my kid.  He has a social worker advocate who we meet with too ... she works with the school and he part of his diploma is working.  I have been pretty impressed with everything and the options the state offers.  They said they almost always decline disability the first time ... so we may have to appeal.  He will get it though without a doubt.

We'll see if he works.  That's the goal.  He really wants to work with trains and I guess someone with his class interned for Norfolk Southern and then got a job working for them.  So I guess they are supportive.  Like seriously he is obsessed with working for a train company and has been for years and years.  Really that's what he needs cause if it's something he is interested in he is super focused.  We'll see.
Does he have a vocational career counselor that can help him with that? I know here kids who have a disability can get a vocational type counselor who can help them get that. My late father in law worked on the Illinois Central before it was bought out for over 25 years.  It was a great job.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Chucky on February 18, 2020, 01:26:51 pm
That is good. University of Kentucky is also doing a study on people who have had family members who have had cancer and Parkinson's to see if it is an inherited gene that causes one to get that. My vousin, actually my husband's cousin, his whole family of brothers, sister, his kids and grandkids have undergone a study on that to see if they have a gene on that.
Yeah, it's a great hospital... They have resturant menus, feed you anything you want... To my knowledge they don't even bill you if you are poor and cannot afford it... Same in another one called Marcum Wallace... Really nice hospitals...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Chucky on February 18, 2020, 01:28:00 pm
Maybe its a Kentucky born kinda thing IDK
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 01:29:07 pm
Does he have a vocational career counselor that can help him with that? I know here kids who have a disability can get a vocational type counselor who can help them get that. My late father in law worked on the Illinois Central before it was bought out for over 25 years.  It was a great job.

Yeah that's his social worker ... she knows all the options and she works with the school and his degree program.  He works at 3 places and it's all coordinated with the state and his social worker.  She works at the nearby state office but also goes to their school a lot.  If he loses a job once he's and adult they will help find him a new one.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 01:30:54 pm
Yeah that's his social worker ... she knows all the options and she works with the school and his degree program.  He works at 3 places and it's all coordinated with the state and his social worker.  She works at the nearby state office but also goes to their school a lot.  If he loses a job once he's and adult they will help find him a new one.
Cool deal, sounds like he has his head on straight.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 01:39:26 pm
Cool deal, sounds like he has his head on straight.

Yeah.  It's nice to have options for him.  He could definitely live independently I think I'm a supervised setting or just someone to check on him periodically, but we'll see how things play out.  He will stay with me for awhile but I do want to push him to be as independent as possible.  One day I won't be here and if all he knows is life with me that would be harder than it should be.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 01:51:53 pm
As soon as I first heard about this mysterious virus in China, I immediately thought half jokingly this seems a lot like how World War Z or that movie with Sandra Bullock began, lol.  I am not kidding.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 02:00:05 pm
As soon as I first heard about this mysterious virus in China, I immediately thought half jokingly this seems a lot like how World War Z or that movie with Sandra Bullock began, lol.  I am not kidding.

And you know what ... I hope it happens ... all hell breaks loose and a mob of virus infected chinese people storm Faith's house like a zombie horde and guess what ... she doesn't have an AR ... because?  She hates hillbillies.  The irony of her demise would be that she probably hates chinese more than hillbillies.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 02:03:32 pm
I haven't really developed a Zagat's-style rating system for hospitals. Hopefully, I will never be so infirm that my experience necessitates that.  Here in the northern latitudes, we just assume that everyone in the  south is dim-witted, lazy and weak.

North Carolina is more of a blue blood southern state.  It's not like South Carolina or Kentucky.  😜

The second you hit south Carolina on way to MB ... the way that a lot of folks from NC travel, it fits every southern stereotype the second you cross the state line.  It's so effing funny.  It's like even AtT cell service drops to E for awhile.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 02:05:37 pm
It's HE, pssy. And how do you know I don't have an AR?

No man would call himself Faith.  Was the name Lucy already taken or something?
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 02:09:56 pm
Effin "dude" calls himself Faithy, acts like a female PETA activist, and then has nerve to call me a pussay.  Da eff is this?

https://youtu.be/nf0oXY4nDxE
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 02:15:37 pm
Yet, between the two of us, I have a wife and he has a bottle of hand lotion and a handkerchief to dab the tears running down his cheeks

Good for you.  I support your gay marriage.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 02:24:13 pm
They might do that up there on the "north coast" ;D

I am betting he just "identifies" as Faith.  Next he's gonna start beating girls in professional cycling events.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 02:28:57 pm
He's insecure because he's only 5'2" and his wife dumped him for a real man.

Listen Stacy or whatever you want to call yourself ... your identity as a female called Faith has nothing to do with me.  Leave me out of that freak show.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 02:32:56 pm
I bet your wife would leave you too if she knew you went around pretending to be a girl called faith on the Internet, you weirdo.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 02:58:21 pm
lol Its all in the peddling, they say. He he

She has identity issues with my height too.  I am 5 7, but I'm not a small 5 7.  My core body weight (weight of your body not including fat) alone puts me in the overweight as far as BMI.  So unless I want to go on a concentration camp diet and lose muscle or bone mass, it's not possible for me to ever have a normal BMI.  So I am much more robust than most men.  My core body weight is 159-160.  If I am lifting I could up that by 10-15 easy enough in 6 months.  I can probably get down to 165.  I am 186 now.  We'll see hopefully I don't lose too much muscle.  I don't think I have ... I think I am much more muscular at this weight than I usually am.  Keto ... I eat a lot of protein.  Some days I have almost zero carbs ... maybe 3 or 4 grams  or less.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 03:01:04 pm
lol Its all in the peddling, they say. He he
He, she, it seems to have a lot of issues with a lot of people.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 03:01:26 pm
She has identity issues with my height too.  I am 5 7, but I'm not a small 5 7.  My core body weight (weight of your body not including fat) alone puts me in the overweight as far as BMI.  So unless I want to go on a concentration camp diet and lose muscle or bone mass, it's not possible for me to ever have a normal BMI.  So I am much more robust than most men.  My core body weight is 159-160.  If I am lifting I could up that by 10-15 easy enough in 6 months.  I can probably get down to 165.  I am 186 now.  We'll see hopefully I don't lose too much muscle.  I don't think I have ... I think I am much more muscular at this weight than I usually am.  Keto ... I eat a lot of protein.  Some days I have almost zero carbs ... maybe 3 or 4 grams  or less.
He, she, it seems to have a lot of issues.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 03:02:43 pm
They are the oldest civilization on the planet.  They try harder than us to keep their culture from being diluted.

Muslims in general globally aren't exactly conducive to stability and prosperity ... their track record speaks for itself ... the Chinese leadership also and XI even more so than most recent leaders want people loyal to the party and state and see religion as a threat ... something they need to control ... like everything.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 03:06:16 pm
He, she, it seems to have a lot of issues.

That's a girl if ever there was a girl.  No dude could give off so much estrogen while being an internet PETA warrior.  I am a guy and I love animals too ... so I know how a man would act about animal subjects.  Plus Faith is either a girl's or a cross dresser's name ... those are the only two options.  😊
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 03:09:01 pm
That's a girl if ever there was a girl.  No dude could give off so much estrogen while being an internet PETA warrior.  I am a guy and I love animals too ... so I know how a man would act about animal subjects.  Plus Faith is either a girl's or a cross dresser's name ... those are the only two options.  😊
Hahahaha!!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 03:11:46 pm
I think we should just let Faith pick:

Option A) Faith is a girls name or option B) Faith is a crossdresser's name.

You can do eeny, meeny, miny, moe if you are struggling.  It's okay.  We are inclusive.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 03:19:58 pm
You seem to have all the bases covered...dim-witted, unattractive and obese, huh, Free Willy?
You just described yourself. Very good, did you look in the mirror to come up with all those. You forgot ignorant and self righteous about yourself.  You act like you have seen pics of me or know all about me and you don't. That is what makes it funny. You sound insecure because some women are self confident and self assured about themselves. Plus, I know what sexual identity I am, you seem to be confused on what to be identified with.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 03:20:57 pm
I think we should just let Faith pick:

Option A) Faith is a girls name or option B) Faith is a crossdresser's name.

You can do eeny, meeny, miny, moe if you are struggling.  It's okay.  We are inclusive.
I think it will have a hard time choosing for itself. It is stuck on stupid.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 03:21:28 pm
Who is Bambi banging these days? Your best friend? The mailman?

I don't care.  I wake up everyday giddy that she's gonna.  She was squandering my golden ticket.  Now I can achieve the things I want ... things she was sabotaging. 

Imma lovin life and I'll be out of debt here in May ... that would have never happened with her ... we only went backwards and I took out 401k loans and cashed out a few times when we moved and refinanced ... I got us out 4 or 5 times.  When we ended we were 40k in credit card debt and going backwards.  I will have paid off almost 40k in just the past 18 months and I pay her 2k in alimony and by this time next year I want 10k in the bank and 20k invested.  And in 2 year I expect to be able to put away 40k a year and when I am done with alimony 60k a yearS. <<< that is what I wanted to do a long time ago.  None of this would be possible with Bambi and money is not everything but wasting all that money with nothing to show for it except debt that was entirely on my shoulders isn't worth shyte.  So good riddance.

I don't even like being around her.  I don't even like sitting by her in bleachers at wrestling matches.  I couldn't give a eff what she does.  It's just starting for me.  Everything turns around this year.  2020.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 03:23:13 pm
I don't care.  I wake up everyday giddy that she's gonna.  She was squandering my golden ticket.  Now I can achieve the things I want ... things she was sabotaging. 

Imma lovin life and I'll be out of debt here in May ... that would have never happened with her ... we only went backwards and I took out 401k loans and cashed out a few times when we moved and refinanced ... I got us out 4 or 5 times.  When we ended we were 40k in credit card debt and going backwards.  I will have paid off almost 40k in just the past 18 months and I pay her 2k in alimony and by this time next year I want 10k in the bank and 20k invested.  And in 2 year I expect to be able to put away 40k a year and when I am done with alimony 60k a yearS. <<< that is what I wanted to do a long time ago.  None of this would be possible with Bambi and money is not everything but wasting all that money with nothing to show for it except debt that was entirely on my shoulders isn't worth shyte.  So good riddance.

I don't even like being around her.  I don't even like sitting by her in bleachers at wrestling matches.  I couldn't give a eff what she does.  It's just starting for me.  Everything turns around this year.  2020.
Sounds like you got rid of a real gold digger. Good for you! Life is too short to stay miserable to someone like that.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 03:39:17 pm
Sounds like you got rid of a real gold digger. Good for you! Life is too short to stay miserable to someone like that.

I wasn't making the kind of money I was making the last 10 years of our marriage at first.  It took me 5 years before I really cashed in.  I'm just glad it's over.  Everyday is like pure bliss.  For years and years I had so much financial stress and I tried everything and every sacrifice I made was almost just like more for her to spend. 

Even with me paying off so much debt each month.i am not used to having the kind of money I have to spend each month.  Like for me even paying her that much alimony each month I feel like I am so fortunate.  When I am out of debt it's like I will feel like I won the lottery.  I don't need much either.  I am pretty frugal.  I am not used to this, but it feels good.  I am a much better person than I was when I was under all that stress.  I felt like I had no control over my life and like I was trapped.

There is a whole lot of issues with her.  I don't think I'll ever know her thought process.  She can't be honest even with herself if it involves any fault on her part.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 04:02:39 pm
I wasn't making the kind of money I was making the last 10 years of our marriage at first.  It took me 5 years before I really cashed in.  I'm just glad it's over.  Everyday is like pure bliss.  For years and years I had so much financial stress and I tried everything and every sacrifice I made was almost just like more for her to spend. 

Even with me paying off so much debt each month.i am not used to having the kind of money I have to spend each month.  Like for me even paying her that much alimony each month I feel like I am so fortunate.  When I am out of debt it's like I will feel like I won the lottery.  I don't need much either.  I am pretty frugal.  I am not used to this, but it feels good.  I am a much better person than I was when I was under all that stress.  I felt like I had no control over my life and like I was trapped.

There is a whole lot of issues with her.  I don't think I'll ever know her thought process.  She can't be honest even with herself if it involves any fault on her part.
That is sad but just think you got out of a bad situation and I am sure are a better person.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 04:17:59 pm
They sure did figure out soap and in fact they pioneered their own types of soap.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/surprisingly-advanced-ways-the-ancient-chinese-bathed-and-did-laundry_1993963.html

I do not know Faith or if I ever had past contact with this person , you two can beat each other up and I will not interfere but I got to point something out..

You are projecting with your innuendo there, that is what you are, pos.  Try using insults that does not obviously implicate yourself and please learn how to use originalality and learn how to improvise, your lack of both cheapens the discussion...

TIA..

Go ahead and carry on....
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 04:18:19 pm
That is sad but just think you got out of a bad situation and I am sure are a better person.

It probably seems sad from an outsiders perspective.  We were high school and college sweethearts too.  We started dating when I was 17 and she 16. 

At this point all I feel is a great deal of gratitude and happiness because it was like Groundhog Day. Much better situationS. I can start to travel with my kids more too.  I might take my two oldest to Europe for a trip as a graduation present and I'll do the same for my youngest when he does.  <<< stuff like that would not be possible with my ex.

Really I couldn't even enjoy myself on the vacations we did go on cause I was always worried about money and more debt.  It's hard for me to express in words how awful that situation was.  So I feel born again.  I am 10 times better more patient person.  I am in harmony with the universe and right where I need to be.   I just know.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 04:29:55 pm
It probably seems sad from an outsiders perspective.  We were high school and college sweethearts too.  We started dating when I was 17 and she 16. 

At this point all I feel is a great deal of gratitude and happiness because it was like Groundhog Day. Much better situationS. I can start to travel with my kids more too.  I might take my two oldest to Europe for a trip as a graduation present and I'll do the same for my youngest when he does.  <<< stuff like that would not be possible with my ex.

Really I couldn't even enjoy myself on the vacations we did go on cause I was always worried about money and more debt.  It's hard for me to express in words how awful that situation was.  So I feel born again.  I am 10 times better more patient person.  I am in harmony with the universe and right where I need to be.   I just know.
Sounds like you came out in the better end. It is pretty sad that you couldn't enjoy vacations. My husband, the kids and I always enjoy ours. We make a list and esch person decides one thing they really want to do, one thing that is educational and then each person gets to do one thing they want on their own.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 04:38:21 pm
I haven't really developed a Zagat's-style rating system for hospitals. Hopefully, I will never be so infirm that my experience necessitates that.  Here in the northern latitudes, we just assume that everyone in the  south is dim-witted, lazy and weak.

Hhaha, that is your first mistake.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 04:38:36 pm
I couldn't even imagine having my life that fck'd up at your age. Jesus!

Oh really.  I have recovered nicely, I think.  I could probably put down a nice down payment on a condo near beach in 2 or 3 years if I want without breaking bank.  I will be fine.  I should have just been better at this point in my life.  I know this. 

The good life starts end of May tho.  I can do a lot of things with 30k a year to play with and it's gonna to double in 4 years.  I am the type of man who could build a small fortune with that.  I think I have a chance at least.  20-25 years of that.  Would you bet against me?

That's what's gonna be sad for my ex is where we both are in 20 years.  She has rheumatoid arthritis too and who knows what her health will be.  I would have stuck by her side too forever and treated her good if she wasn't such a horrible wife.  I grew to resent her so ... not just finances but she treat me like 2Nd fiddle and less important than other and use a b1tchy tone to me at home for now reason some time  ... to point where I told her more than once I don't like that.  I so don't need to be around that.

Who knows what the future will bring, but I have my health so far and am fit and I think my future looks much brighter than hers and for sure much brighter than it would have been with her by my side.

https://youtu.be/8qrriKcwvlY

Plus I can get hot women.  I could have a lot of fun if I wanted.  I have been given rave reviews in bed too, lol.

So life is good no?
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 04:41:01 pm
I have never been to Canada but have talked with plenty of my friends who actually live there and they say the health insurance sucks.

Amen. I have a friend in Ottawa who had to spend some of his inheritance on surgery in NY. 30 grand
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 04:43:15 pm
Yeah, it's a great hospital... They have resturant menus, feed you anything you want... To my knowledge they don't even bill you if you are poor and cannot afford it... Same in another one called Marcum Wallace... Really nice hospitals...

And they have sweet tea.  ;D
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 04:45:39 pm
Sounds like you came out in the better end. It is pretty sad that you couldn't enjoy vacations. My husband, the kids and I always enjoy ours. We make a list and esch person decides one thing they really want to do, one thing that is educational and then each person gets to do one thing they want on their own.

That sounds like a great idea.

It's hard to explain but for me any substantial debt hangs over me and I am always mindful that it's there.  It's against my life philosophy.  It makes me feel insecure too.  Financial security is very important to me.  I eventually want to get to point where I am working not cause I have to hit because I want to or am working just because I want to sock away large amounts away for retirement.  I would have told you this was a goal when I was a teenager, actually.  That is who I am.  I am super saving oriented.  Seriously someone like me is so fundamentally incompatible with my ex, lol.  We are like oil and water financially.

It's also not that I didn't enjoy vacations. It's just that cloud always there hanging over me. 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 04:52:17 pm
My father-in-law went bankrupt from medical cost and he HAD insurance and he was himself a surgeon.  He ended up with diabetes and Parkinson's and it drained every nickel he had..... and it was a lot.  Canada's health care system is superior to ours. So is France's. Almost all developed nation's have better service than ours.

A couple years ago, I had to go to an ER for something... an injury.  I went to the hospital I was born in on the east side of Detroit...on a Saturday night no less. It was insane. They had metal detectors at the door. There was blood and urine all over the floor.  The medical staff was barricaded behind a locked steel door. While I was there, a Detroit cop car came screeching up and two cops pulled a third cop that had been shot out of the back seat and carried him in.  Some stoned black guy wandered in carrying a dead baby by the wrist. A fckng freak show,. I just wrapped a bath towel around my leg and split and went to an urgent care joint in my own neighborhood to get stitches.

France is beginning to permit private supplemental insurance. The government covers only about 85% like the Medicare here.

And, the socialist idiots are demostrating in the streets. Their government pensions are running dry.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 04:52:44 pm
Wow.

Sorry I don't eff cross dressers, dude.  Don't get too excited.  😂
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 04:55:07 pm
You're a loser.

You just quoted your own post and called yourself a loser, loser.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 05:02:19 pm
That sounds like a great idea.

It's hard to explain but for me any substantial debt hangs over me and I am always mindful that it's there.  It's against my life philosophy.  It makes me feel insecure too.  Financial security is very important to me.  I eventually want to get to point where I am working not cause I have to hit because I want to or am working just because I want to sock away large amounts away for retirement.  I would have told you this was a goal when I was a teenager, actually.  That is who I am.  I am super saving oriented.  Seriously someone like me is so fundamentally incompatible with my ex, lol.  We are like oil and water financially.

It's also not that I didn't enjoy vacations. It's just that cloud always there hanging over me.
We are going to Georgia this summer and to see one of my last living aunts. We don't always spend vacations with family but they asked if we would come and we are staying with cousins. We plan on doing some deep sea fishing and going into the Okfeenokee Park to tour and for me to photograph some wildlife for a friend.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 05:11:17 pm
You're trying to somehow impress us with what a stunning success you are because, despite that your life is in shambles, your skank ex-wife that dumped you cold has a debilitating disease and that makes you better by comparison... That's your measure of "a good life".   
Damn. And here I am plodding along with a stable marriage, a happy healthy and well-adjusted child on the honor roll and zero debt.  So you think your juvenile insults are doing what?  Gee. I guess you showed me!

Not trying to impress anyone.  That's you projecting your being impressed and then you get all defensive at the end and try to say you are better than me.

Wow, you sure are an easy read and a sad creature.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 05:13:53 pm
My goals are for me, not to impress you or anyone.  I don't give two sh 1ts about what you think about my goals.  Same can be said of my accomplishments.  I didn't do it to impress others ... I did them for me.  Go read about ENTJs.  You aren't as important to me as you seem to think you must be.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 05:15:23 pm
You're trying to somehow impress us with what a stunning success you are because, despite that your life is in shambles, your skank ex-wife that dumped you cold has a debilitating disease and that makes you better by comparison... That's your measure of "a good life".   
Damn. And here I am plodding along with a stable marriage, a happy healthy and well-adjusted child on the honor roll and zero debt.  So you think your juvenile insults are doing what?  Gee. I guess you showed me!

And all you do is a trolling act. You remind me of another whiny biatch from Topix who would do the same thing to divide the board and exploit tensions, you are not her but it is a similar act... You have an agenda aginst this particular place..

In the end it will be you that loses here...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 05:21:04 pm
I don't give a sht. I don't live in France.  I live in Michigan...upper right hand corner, shaped like a mitten.

You want to bring France here. Do you think you're special or something? In the end, the same results.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 05:21:36 pm
We are going to Georgia this summer and to see one of my last living aunts. We don't always spend vacations with family but they asked if we would come and we are staying with cousins. We plan on doing some deep sea fishing and going into the Okfeenokee Park to tour and for me to photograph some wildlife for a friend.

That sounds fun.  I'd like to do deep sea fishing again.  I did it only once ... it wasn't great fishing ... I did catch a huge sting ray and it took me about a half hour to get it to boat ... way to big to get in the boat.  I was exhausted.

I don't know what we are gonna do for vacation.  I don't want to do anything too expensive as I will just be out of debt and I want to start building my reserve and investment fund.  I can go to my folks and spend maybe 2 grand and still hit my goals but I may have family down here by then.  My nephew is coming at least.  So we may just stay here and we can do weekend trips and beach trips which would be perfect. 

Next summer we will do something nice. 

It's gonna be fun with my nephew down here ... he turns 21 in December too.  I'll go out with him sometimes.  My family is like that ... we all go out together.  It's a Midwest thing.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 05:24:34 pm
That sounds fun.  I'd like to do deep sea fishing again.  I did it only once ... it wasn't great fishing ... I did catch a huge sting ray and it took me about a half hour to get it to boat ... way to big to get in the boat.  I was exhausted.

I don't know what we are gonna do for vacation.  I don't want to do anything too expensive as I will just be out of debt and I want to start building my reserve and investment fund.  I can go to my folks and spend maybe 2 grand and still hit my goals but I may have family down here by then.  My nephew is coming at least.  So we may just stay here and we can do weekend trips and beach trips which would be perfect. 

Next summer we will do something nice. 

It's gonna be fun with my nephew down here ... he turns 21 in December too.  I'll go out with him sometimes.  My family is like that ... we all go out together.  It's a Midwest thing.

The one thing I remember about Carolina Beach when I was a kid was being stung by a jellyfish.   :)
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 05:28:21 pm
This is what ruined Topix. A bunch of internet losers that have to force their way into any and every discussion and make stupid, childish comments to try and get a response. How utterly boring.

Hahaha, so it's everyone else?   
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 05:29:04 pm
The one thing I remember about Carolina Beach when I was a kid was being stung by a jellyfish.   :)

Yeah my buddy did once too north MB.  I guess they are there.  I never have been struck.

We were joking that someone needed to suck the poison out, lol.  He was fine.  I don't remember it causing any long term pain.

I just like the beach life too.  Even if you aren't actually on the beach.  Everyone is happier and more chill by the ocean.  It's just a wonderful place to be.  The air smells clean.  I love the beach.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 05:29:07 pm
This is what ruined Topix. A bunch of internet losers that have to force their way into any and every discussion and make stupid, childish comments to try and get a response. How utterly boring.
Then don't read them or respond. If you don't like the conversation, you are not obligated to reply. 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 05:29:22 pm
Jesus. Are you for real?

Yes...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 05:30:43 pm
Yeah my buddy did once too north MB.  I guess they are there.  I never have been struck.

We were joking that someone needed to suck the poison out, lol.  He was fine.  I don't remember it causing any long term pain.

I just like the beach life too.  Even if you aren't actually on the beach.  Everyone is happier and more chill by the ocean.  It's just a wonderful place to be.  The air smells clean.  I love the beach.
We go to the beach about every other year. We have always enjoyed the beach.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 05:34:24 pm
Yeah my buddy did once too north MB.  I guess they are there.  I never have been struck.

We were joking that someone needed to suck the poison out, lol.  He was fine.  I don't remember it causing any long term pain.

I just like the beach life too.  Even if you aren't actually on the beach.  Everyone is happier and more chill by the ocean.  It's just a wonderful place to be.  The air smells clean.  I love the beach.

It's like a big bee sting.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 05:34:33 pm
OK. So you are just another jerk off troll looking to type the same stupid ass comments over and over.

You could be accidentally quoting your own posts but the optics of it makes you look, well like a nut....
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 05:37:10 pm
Your goals are exactly to try to impress. Again, I was talking about the coronavirus when you showed up with the same stupid line of garbage you ran on topix and that you ran on Reddit when you followed me there.  And I am not any more interested in your childish bullshit now as I was on Topix or Reddit.

I didn't follow you.  You invited me to your lame-o sub reddit idiot.  I joined, saw how lame and boring it was, and unfollowed your sub.  My goodness there is more excitement at nursing home.

Then I guess after I unfollowed your stupid azz sub, your cross dressing azz followed me here and now you post everyday here just cause I am here.  So....
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 05:39:06 pm
Yeah. Well this kind of thing probably just isn't nearly as important to me as it is to you. I'm sensing you are one of those Star Wars fans that dresses up like a Jedi Knight...or maybe a 'Trekkie', huh?

No...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 05:41:39 pm
It's like a big bee sting.

Yeah that was my impression. 

My goal is to get a condo close by that I can take a golf cart to beach and to restaurants on beach.  Really a 2 bedroom would be fine ... you can have a bunk bed and fit 3 or 4 people in a one bed room and have a pull out couch in living room and have a master bedroom.  Blow up mattress if need be.  You can fit a lot or people if need be, but for me and my 3 boys a 2 bedroom would be adequate and affordable and I'd have enough room for guests.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 05:42:24 pm
Nah. I actually was here for about 9 months before you got here and if you check, I actually started this thread to bash the Chinese when you showed up with your whining about your ex-wife and bragging about all of your storied 'accomplishments'.
Racists much on other races?.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 05:45:08 pm
Nah. I actually was here for about 9 months before you got here and if you check, I actually started this thread to bash the Chinese when you showed up with your whining about your ex-wife and bragging about all of your storied 'accomplishments'.

WrongZ. You didn't start posting here regularly until after I did.  I don't blame you.  Your sub sucks donkey. It's like having a blog no one reads, ha!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 05:47:54 pm
Yeah. Been a long time since you've had a date, huh, "weepy"?

No...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 05:47:58 pm
Yeah. Been a long time since you've had a date, huh, "weepy"?

Take it easy sport ... not everyone can own a restaurant and marry their dishwasher Lupe, like you.  Not all of us had a dad leave us factories to run into the ground.  Some of us had to earn our $$, the hard way!  I can't just open a effin hooters cause my dad left me a bunch of shyte and marry a hooters chick like you.  So shup.  🤣
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 05:49:14 pm
I don't post anywhere else.

That would be a good thing if true....
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 05:49:35 pm
Of course. All of them. ....And fat people too, Shamu
Sad that you are that racists towards others. No wonder you have no friends or posts no where else especially with your views towards the military,  several would tear you apart and you would go crying like the baby you are.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 05:49:57 pm
I started this thread, moron. I was the first one here. I don't post anywhere else.

Look at you!  Aren't you special.  You want a effin bozo button?

Yeah on your gay azz sub reddit you post.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 05:52:33 pm
Look at you!  Aren't you special.  You want a effin bozo button?

Yeah on your gay azz sub reddit you post.
Now be careful,  NC, you are liable to hurt its delicate feelings and it will go crying.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 05:55:26 pm
Nope. The only thing that really hurts me is  when you give me those stupid judge-its, Fatty. :(
Aww, keep crying. You must think you really are something and yet, you can't make up y our mind what sexual identity you want to be. Most of your crap on coronavirus and everything else is all copy and paste from webmed. Can't you come up with something on your own.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 05:57:06 pm
Now be careful,  NC, you are liable to hurt its delicate feelings and it will go crying.

She saw how much fun we were all having, including me, and she decided she wanted in on the action and to slide on over here from her sub reddit almost no one read, except this seemingly senile lady who kept calling out other people's names asking where they were.  So yeah that's why she's here.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 05:58:58 pm
I started this thread, moron. I was the first one here. I don't post anywhere else.

I believe you when you said in certain terms you are not familar with all the workings on this board because if you did you would not come off looking like a total buffoon. You have posted on several boards on here. You know your history can be tracked? So can mine, Pete and others but that is not the point, the point is you are being exposed as comedy relief, no kidding...

Just saying...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 05:59:13 pm
She saw how much fun we were all having, including me, and she decided she wanted in on the action and to slide on over here from her sub reddit almost no one read, except this seemingly senile lady who kept calling out other people's names asking where they were.  So yeah that's why she's here.
Okay. I never got into the reddit thread. It looked boring to me. Enjoy your evening. We have plans to meet up with some friends.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 06:01:43 pm
Buck up little man!  In another 3 or 4 years you might have enough saved for a downstroke on that 2 BR condo! LOL!

https://www.trulia.com/p/sc/north-myrtle-beach/prince-resort-3601-n-ocean-blvd-1734-north-myrtle-beach-sc-29582--2441902551

That's doable in 2 years.  I can get a mortgage. 

I'm effing telling you.  If something awful doesn't happen I am set.  I have been working since I was 13.  On a farm, dish washer and bus boy in an chinese restaurant, as a laborer on construction sites for 4 summers ... its finally all gonna pay off. 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 06:02:24 pm
Okay. I never got into the reddit thread. It looked boring to me. Enjoy your evening. We have plans to meet up with some friends.

Have a good night!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 06:02:50 pm
You should hook up with the fat hillbilly broad.  You might learn to like that no-teeth thing she's got going on, Stubby.
You sound insecure.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 06:03:32 pm
You should hook up with the fat hillbilly broad.  You might learn to like that no-teeth thing she's got going on, Stubby.

Let's leave your lesbian wife out of this.  Okay?
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 06:03:49 pm
The "Canadian" friends? Be sure and update us on their medical conditions, Chubby. Have a good time. Don't drink and drive.
No dumbass idiot, they live in Toronto, Canada,  we don't.  You sound like you have comprenshion issues. Or jealousy issues that we have friends.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 06:05:26 pm
Let's leave your lesbian wife out of this.  Okay?
Hahahaha and you know what I have friends who are gay and lesbian and the guys don't use a female name. That tells us all that it is confused and insecure. 
Good night. 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 06:05:54 pm
I haven't had a mortgage since I was in my 20's.  I bought this ranch with a cashier's check... the way grown-ups do.

I got a 3.25 rate.  I can make more investing money than paying off my mortgage.  That's how people who know the power of compound interest think.  Sh 1t last ten years I have gotten ridiculous returns.  20 percent ... insane ... as long as you aren't over extended I have no plans to pay off my main home mortgage early.  I could.  I am investing all that money I said ... gonna keep 10k on hand in bank and rest is gonna work for me.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 06:06:23 pm
You're really really boring me. Just saying...

No, I am not....
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 18, 2020, 06:06:33 pm
Get your own material, fatso.
We have material,  it is your ignorant self who looks in the mirror and can't come up with anything. Why don't you learn some new material because you have used that one so much that it is passe.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 06:10:52 pm
We have material,  it is your ignorant self who looks in the mirror and can't come up with anything. Why don't you learn some new material because you have used that one so much that it is passe.

That is the same beef I have with pos, like I said before he and Angie can beat each other up, I wont take sides between the two...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 06:34:41 pm
Sounds great. Now if Bambi gets cancer, you'll be batting 1000! Good luck and God bless! Onward and upward!

She's not my problem anymore.

https://youtu.be/uB1D9wWxd2w
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 06:38:28 pm
I get the impression I'm the only adult here.

I want to ask you, are the former Cookie Parker also once known as SMF?

I believe you if say yes. Kookoo spent time on Reddit too....

Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 07:02:51 pm
Apparently she is.

Nope.  Not even if she came back begging and crying.  I really am thankful that I didn't spend one more day with that dead beat.

Once I get my beach house I want to get a Polaris sling shot and another bike and then my 3 boys and I can do bike weeks.  That's the kind of shyte I like to do.  That kinda shyte wasn't ever gonna happen with Bambi.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 07:17:06 pm
Woodtick of the north coast from the old topix is here under a different handle. ;D ;D

Except Woodtick was much smarter.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 07:29:01 pm
-20 here..... ;D

Lol. Water is dry.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 07:30:23 pm
What the fck are you even talking about?

I will be glad to explain it..

Cookie Parker is a nutty moron from Topix that belongs in a straightjacket, she is far gone. She had knowledge of certain things like you bring up but she could not get along with anyone and it destroyed her. She was a master of IP disguising and was one that would study a location and pretend to be from there, like Australia under her SMF pseudonym ,she never went there. Michigan can show up in her Indiana location as well. She had a history of divisiveness that you posses, a clone if you are not her....

Kookoo has been to this board in the past and she was banned, even under her SMF pseudonym and figure she has to deny that question or she goes poof. She has to use an IP that is not detected to last here...

The issue though is you have the exact same style she has, right down to a T. I am just skeptical of coinincidences and I expected a denial from you. I am not just yet convinced is all...

 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 07:38:07 pm
I will be glad to explain it..

Cookie Parker is a nutty moron from Topix that belongs in a straightjacket, she is far gone. She had knowledge of certain things like you bring up but she could not get along with anyone and it destroyed her. She was a master of IP disguising and was one that would study a location and pretend to be from there, like Australia under her SMF pseudonym ,she never went there. Michigan can show up in her Indiana location as well. She had a history of divisiveness that you posses, a clone if you are not her....

Kookoo has been to this board in the past and she was banned, even under her SMF pseudonym and figure she has to deny that question or she goes poof. She has to use an IP that is not detected to last here...

The issue though is you have the exact same style she has, right down to a T. I am just skeptical of coinincidences and I expected a denial from you. I am not just yet convinced is all...

I read somewhere a few pages back he was interested in dating you. You gotta tell him you're not gay or he'll keep pestering you. 

Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 07:42:52 pm
ROTFLMAO!

"PROVEN"

hahaha

I wish I could remember the girl who was always given a hard time with the name calling by him. A think she lived in Nebraska near Colorado.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 07:46:17 pm
I read somewhere a few pages back he was interested in dating you. You gotta tell him you're not gay or he'll keep pestering you.

Nice satire, Teabag. That had been used before and  that could have came from pos as well...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 07:54:14 pm
So he's a man who goes by the names Faith and Cookie Parker on the Internet?  Nothing weird about that or anything.  He's perfectly normal ... his kid made honor roll. Sheesh, get help PLEASE!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 07:56:26 pm
She saw how much fun we were all having, including me, and she decided she wanted in on the action and to slide on over here from her sub reddit almost no one read, except this seemingly senile lady who kept calling out other people's names asking where they were.  So yeah that's why she's here.

We do not always get along but you do have a point here. Kookoo had a knack for fishing for personal info as well and is a senile lady. Approximatly 70 years old....
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 07:58:02 pm
So he's a man who goes by the names Faith and Cookie Parker on the Internet?  Nothing weird about that or anything.  He's perfectly normal ... his kid made honor roll. Sheesh, get help PLEASE!


Cookie once called herself "Buck" and yes she crosses dresses so to speak...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 08:01:29 pm
We do not always get along but you do have a point here. Kookoo had a knack for fishing for personal info as well and is a senile lady. Approximatly 70 years old....

Yeah her personal subreddit makes Ferrermans blog seem like the coolest website in the history of the Internet.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 08:32:12 pm
I guess it's safe to assume that none of you jerk offs have ever been laid.  You spend your whole lives typing your juvenile nonsense to total strangers.

Kookoo has said that before when she was disgusted, your dialogue is a perfect match. Really......
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 18, 2020, 08:35:36 pm
Rewba?

No, that wasn't it. It may have started with an R  though.

Faith reminds me of that nasty azz, Henry. I believe.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 08:37:55 pm
Kookoo has said that before when she was disgusted, your dialogue is a perfect match. Really......

Did she crave sh itty Canadian style healthcare and taxes?
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 08:43:18 pm
Did she crave sh itty Canadian style healthcare and taxes?

This is not political...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 18, 2020, 08:48:38 pm
Canada has a higher average practical tax rate than the United States at 28%. Business Insider reports that after taxes Canadians bring home $35,299 annually on average. In the United States, the practical tax rate is lower at 18%. As such the average post-tax annual salary in the U.S. is $52,344.

Most folks get a huge portion of their health insurance paid for by their employer.  I pay like $200 a month.  I'd much rather have $52k a year and have to pay 200 a month for insurance and co pays here and there than bring home 35k and have to wait 39 weeks for my free surgery.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 09:36:48 pm
I posted as Mortimer Durand, Cecil Rhodes, Syrian Kotsi, Shlomo Trotsky, Billy Mays, Mrs. Kowalski... There were so many I can't remember all of them. But they were all funny as fck.  The funniest part was watching queers like you trying to keep up like you're doing now. But so far, you haven't gotten one right. Keep trying, girls.

I am sure you posted as 100+ names, so did Kookoo...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 09:39:09 pm
Keep digging, Nancy. You'll figure it out. I know how very important it is to a 50 year old virgin like you.

Dont have to....
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 18, 2020, 09:47:02 pm
You aren't even close, rent-boy.

So you are saying you are a clone, a facsimile, a "Kookie Kutter" so to speak and not the original? That could be possible, pos is a clone too. You two deserve each other...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 19, 2020, 07:15:11 am
Canada has a higher average practical tax rate than the United States at 28%. Business Insider reports that after taxes Canadians bring home $35,299 annually on average. In the United States, the practical tax rate is lower at 18%. As such the average post-tax annual salary in the U.S. is $52,344.

Most folks get a huge portion of their health insurance paid for by their employer.  I pay like $200 a month.  I'd much rather have $52k a year and have to pay 200 a month for insurance and co pays here and there than bring home 35k and have to wait 39 weeks for my free surgery.
Wonder about those who have no insurance and who can't get health care of any kind. I was lucky that part of my benefit package when I retired besides having a 401K was having my health insurance paid for.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 19, 2020, 09:21:09 am
Wonder about those who have no insurance and who can't get health care of any kind. I was lucky that part of my benefit package when I retired besides having a 401K was having my health insurance paid for.

There are ways to solve that short of roping us all into some sh itty universal government healthcare program.

A big reason we have a high standard of living here is because we don't do socialism to the extent of other Western nations.  When you don't do as much socialism people are allowed to keep more of their paycheck, which encourages a lot of positive things because the incentives that earning more $ provides is given more to the person than to the state.  No one ever said I am motivated to earn more money because I want to pay more taxes, lol.  Many people too if allowed to keep their money will make the sort of decisions and investments that promote more overall societal prosperity than more government programs directed at just paying for people to exist or to make unsound economic choices. 

A good example of unsound economic choices is this paying off student loans business.  There are ways to do higher education much cheaper if one chooses and one should factor in job and salary prospects when choosing said area of study and the amount spent or loaned.  <<< these are sound economic decisions and encourage folks to not behave like idiots and take on 200k in debt when they will be making not very much out of school and when they could have gotten the same degree and more or less has the same job prospects for a lot less $.

So when we create programs we should consider these factors.  In the aggregate they add up and produce more economic growth, which gives everyone more opportunity and more prosperity ... makes the pizza bigger.  The left's approach produces a smaller pizza and its makes it harder to do more than just get a slice of pie that you are less than happy with and less prospects for improvement.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 19, 2020, 09:21:32 am
Perhaps one avenue that could be considered as a way to reduce health costs in an appreciable way would be to institute a strident program of Eugenics, wherein the elderly, infirm, obese and slow witted would be humanely removed from society.  It could be a very conscientious and beneficial practice that would surely lower the cost and increase the efficiency of what might otherwise be a cumbersome system. Pull the weeds, water the flowers and so forth.

Sieg Heil.   

Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 19, 2020, 09:23:25 am
Ultimately, the US WILL have universal healthcare. The issue has gained so much momentum, there is no turning back.  It has already fragmented our government. No rational person stands against it.

Healthcare and healthcare insurance was reasonable before the government began to f**k with it starting with Medicare.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 19, 2020, 09:29:20 am
There are also ways to lower healthcare costs short of universal coverage.  A lot of ways.  All lot of routine costs could be shifted to individuals and employers give them a set amount each year and individuals contribute a set amount ... that combined with transparent pricing would encourage patients to seek out different providers and select in part due to to cost.  Provide an incentive that they can keep any amount left over at preferential or no tax rate.  Then you combine that with catastrophic insurance coverage that kicks in if you have a serious health problem.  If you did that and told the pharmaceutical companies to eff off and we will only pay no more than what other nations like Canada and Germany pay, you could really lower healthcare costs and actually have a more robust system of catastrophic insurance for people who are really sick.

No one has even tried to do much to lower costs.  People say the system is broke, well yeah cause no one tries to actually do anything that would lower costs. We could get much cheaper and better results with a few sound tweaks.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 19, 2020, 09:33:36 am
Is Medicare the one for the old and useless, or the lazy and and incompetent...Either way, you's be covered. One would think you'd be a fan. Get a job, bum.

I had a job and retired and I'll bet I still make more than you, Sparky.

Not working today?
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 19, 2020, 09:37:10 am
Healthcare and healthcare insurance was reasonable before the government began to f**k with it starting with Medicare.

The same thing happened with education.  Once the federal government began dumping billions into it costs started going through the roof.

There are colleges with designer dorm rooms and they compete to attract students by providing super nice awesome dorms.  That is inefficient waste of money spent on education.  As a nation we should strive to educate young adults as efficiently as possible while achieving world class results.  <<< that should be the goal and culture. 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 19, 2020, 10:07:26 am
The same thing happened with education.  Once the federal government began dumping billions into it costs started going through the roof.

There are colleges with designer dorm rooms and they compete to attract students by providing super nice awesome dorms.  That is inefficient waste of money spent on education.  As a nation we should strive to educate young adults as efficiently as possible while achieving world class results.  <<< that should be the goal and culture.

True. College was once reasonable too. It wasn't cheap, but reasonable. Trenton State College was the place to go for the average person when I graduated from high school.

Dumping money into something is a demand increase that raises prices.

Bernie the Bolshevik complains about Bloomberg buying votes while democrats have been doing that since FDR. Doesn't Bernie know that promising free college is buying votes?  What Bernie doesn't tell you is in Europe's free college not everyone goes to college. A test taken in eighth grade determines that.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/jan/25/martin-omalley/could-gm-worker-afford-college-tuition-just-two-we/

Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 19, 2020, 10:38:22 am
True. College was once reasonable too. It wasn't cheap, but reasonable. Trenton State College was the place to go for the average person when I graduated from high school.

Dumping money into something is a demand increase that raises prices.

Bernie the Bolshevik complains about Bloomberg buying votes while democrats have been doing that since FDR. Doesn't Bernie know that promising free college is buying votes?  What Bernie doesn't tell you is in Europe's free college not everyone goes to college. A test taken in eighth grade determines that.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/jan/25/martin-omalley/could-gm-worker-afford-college-tuition-just-two-we/
European's kids are also put on tracks and it determines  which path that child will go. We saw that when we went to Europe.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 19, 2020, 10:43:26 am
European's kids are also put on tracks and it determines  which path that child will go. We saw that when we went to Europe.

Exactly. It's not free college for everyone as Bernie says. You don't go to high school if you're not going to college. You're "tracked" toward an apprenticeship or trade school.

It's certainly not liberty
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 19, 2020, 10:44:49 am
Good Morning, everyone! I hope you have a great day!

Mornin'   :)
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 19, 2020, 11:26:12 am
True. College was once reasonable too. It wasn't cheap, but reasonable. Trenton State College was the place to go for the average person when I graduated from high school.

Dumping money into something is a demand increase that raises prices.

Bernie the Bolshevik complains about Bloomberg buying votes while democrats have been doing that since FDR. Doesn't Bernie know that promising free college is buying votes?  What Bernie doesn't tell you is in Europe's free college not everyone goes to college. A test taken in eighth grade determines that.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/jan/25/martin-omalley/could-gm-worker-afford-college-tuition-just-two-we/

Yeah I don't for sure but I would wager you also have a much harder time later in life if you want to and are capable of getting a degree because you weren't on the right track for that in high school and probably can't even go to college unless you go back and take the right high school classes. 

Seriously it drives me up the wall that Democrats either lie about or conceal or are oblivious to the many pitfalls of the never-ending schemes they continuously dream up.

I do think there are some reforms to higher education tho that should be in the spirit of our historical Greek and Roman roots any the renaissance and the enlightenment.  It's problematic in the sense that higher learning is dominated by people who have an antagonistic and highly naive view of our roots ... a hatred in many cases.  The reality is that our forefathers were amazing ... were they perfect, no ... in many instances they were men of their times and had views that we find revolting today ... same will probably be said of us in 1000 years, probably much less time than that.  To demonize and not emphasize our roots when it comes to education and free open thought and celebration of our ancient ideals is harmful and not even morally right.  It is precisely these negative views that permeate many levels of higher learning at many institutions across the county.  We also have many of our most prestigious universities who are jeopardizing our national interests when it comes to China and their reliance on foreign money and donations. 

So things need to change.  I agree with that.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 19, 2020, 11:32:50 am
Yeah I don't for sure but I would wager you also have a much harder time later in life if you want to and are capable of getting a degree because you weren't on the right track for that in high school and probably can't even go to college unless you go back and take the right high school classes. 

Seriously it drives me up the wall that Democrats either lie about or conceal or are oblivious to the many pitfalls of the never-ending schemes they continuously dream up.

I do think there are some reforms to higher education tho that should be in the spirit of our historical Greek and Roman roots any the renaissance and the enlightenment.  It's problematic in the sense that higher learning is dominated by people who have an antagonistic and highly naive view of our roots ... a hatred in many cases.  The reality is that our forefathers were amazing ... were they perfect, no ... in many instances they were men of their times and had views that we find revolting today ... same will probably be said of us in 1000 years, probably much less time than that.  To demonize and not emphasize our roots when it comes to education and free open thought and celebration of our ancient ideals is harmful and not even morally right.  It is precisely these negative views that permeate many levels of higher learning at many institutions across the county.  We also have many of our most prestigious universities who are jeopardizing our national interests when it comes to China and their reliance on foreign money and donations. 

So things need to change.  I agree with that.

We also are flooding our country with people who do not share those cultural roots and in many cases have a value system that is incompatible or incapable of adopting traditional values that have lead to our culturing dominating the worlds culture more or less in many ways.  Actually not all value systems are equals. You aren't even allowed to really feel this way ... in today's world you must view culturally inferior value systems as victims of our value systems and it's all horse shyte and not even useful for a solution.  Bill Gates can dig all the effin wells he wants but until people in Africa start raising children like successful people do in Western Nations to the same degree you aren't going to do anything to lift people out of poverty.  Giving people water and paying for them to subsist and breed more people who will aspire just to subsist doesn't reduce poverty.

Many people from cultures that have a negative view of western society too.  They also aren't planning on fully integrating.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 19, 2020, 11:42:36 am
Another thing will Bill Gates digging wells ... if you as a nation can't figure out how the eff to dig and bore your own effing holes in the ground ... as if this is some advanced futuristic technology and your cultural expectation is to sit around and die of thirst until some rich nerd from America ponies up money to dig you a well, you are royally effed as a people and there isn't jack shyte all the money in the world could do to fix this.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on February 19, 2020, 11:46:01 am
Another thing will Bill Gates digging wells ... if you as a nation can't figure out how the eff to dig and bore your own effing holes in the ground ... as if this is some advanced futuristic technology and your cultural expectation is to sit around and die of thirst until some rich nerd from America ponies up money to dig you a well, you are royally effed as a people and there isn't jack shyte all the money in the world could do to fix this.

This is how the UN operates on every level when it comes to development.  It's like the dumb leading the blind.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 19, 2020, 11:58:40 am
That sounds like socialized destiny.
I am sure it is for them and what works for them won't necessarily work for us. I would hate to tell some kid because his or her family has never been to college that they shouldn't go to college when that kid desires to go.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 19, 2020, 12:19:04 pm
Exactly.....but I would unconditionally refuse to tell a kid that even if it meant my job.
Some kids aren't college material,  I have told kids that trade jobs pay great money and more than some college graduates. Not everyone is meant for college.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 19, 2020, 12:57:46 pm
Some kids aren't, you're right. Only the kid should decide if he or she is college material. There is no right or wrong choice in regards either....as someone   (other than what the kid in question)  might think.
Exactly
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 19, 2020, 01:09:26 pm
One thing I know for certain is that overzealous coaching of kids towards college or towards trades can have some disastrous results. It has to be the kids' unaltered and from the heart decision.
That is why we haven't pushed our son towards college. His heart isn't into it his heart is into working as a welder.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 19, 2020, 02:33:48 pm
That sounds like socialized destiny.

That's it. In a statist society, the state decides.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 19, 2020, 02:36:43 pm
I have a BA from one of the best universities in the country. And boy am I glad I do!
I don't remember a shred of what I learned except how to tap a keg and make a marijuana pipe out of a toilet paper tube and tinfoil. . But there was wall-to-wall chicks, a bash every night and I got a dandy diploma that cost my parents what was probably a small fortune at the time.  The most important life lesson I learned though, is that if you aren't self-employed and pulling down your own scores, you're a punk, someone else's bicth. Which explains a lot about most of the mo's posting their weasely nonsense on the internet instead of producing.
I hope when I'm old and useless, I don't spend my retirement "philosophizing" to a bunch of people I'll never meet.

Your parents should have gone on a cruise instead of wasting their money.

What cost you nothing is worth nothing, eh?

Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 19, 2020, 02:51:00 pm
Sounds like you are parenting right in this aspect.
  I did some copper welding a while back at a hydroelectric facility in Canada. also did some pipe and pipe support welding......Made enough money to buy the ranch.

 If your son ends up liking welding, he could make twice as much getting into welding exotic metals.
He is taking welding at vocational school and has teally liked it. He will be certified in mig, tig and something else. He would like to work as a military contractor in welding.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 19, 2020, 03:16:15 pm
That's awesome. I am sure he will make it as long as he pursues his interests...... He'll make a real good living doing that too.
He is planning on it. Daughter wants to be a veterinarian.  I told her I could get her through medical school faster than what it takes to be a veterinarian.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 19, 2020, 03:31:08 pm
Asians are so G.D. weird:

(http://)

So are you. What is your point?
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 19, 2020, 03:42:07 pm
  I received a world-class education. It wasn't a waste of money. They also bought me a house and my dad gave me one-third the stock in one of his companies.  In the parlance of our times, I believe it is what is known as "White Privilege". And man...is it cool.

You gotta be full of it.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 19, 2020, 03:46:01 pm
You gotta be full of it.

You are just seeing that now?
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 19, 2020, 05:02:16 pm
How did she react to that?
She has her heart set on being a veterinarian so I guess that is the route she will go unless she changes her mind. I told her she could be a vet tech. Lol. She still has time as she hasn't started high school until next year but she makes real good grades. Stays at a 3.8 to a 4.0 and in all high honor classes for middle school. 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 19, 2020, 05:36:56 pm
Oh but I'm wood tick, I'm cocoberry. Dork.

You are a bullschidtter too. Don't forget that...
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Weepy on February 19, 2020, 05:55:05 pm
Nope. Everything I said is true. I know it's hard for someone of your limited abilities to even comprehend what a person who is far more capable and intelligent than you can accomplish in a lifetime. Anyhow, tell me; is there ever a time during your waking hours that you are not on this forum typing your inane bullshit to total strangers? It's really sad that you and these other old hillbillies have nothing else going on in your lives. Start a drinking habit, go outside. Do anything except sit on your worthless assIn front of your computer all day.  Don't you have a family?

I beg to differ,  you lie a lot....
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 19, 2020, 06:10:11 pm
Excellent!
Yep, she is a well rounded kid, makes good grades, sings in choir, plays in the band and plays 2 sports. Her brother is very artistic but not really into sports although he could be an athlete if he applied himself. No two kids are alike.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 19, 2020, 06:22:21 pm
Does your great grand daughter have the Chink Plague, Fatty? If not, perhaps your boring chatter would be better suited to the Hillbilly Discussion Forum, not 'current events'.
I don't have any grandchildren,  dummy. Your intelligence level and reading comprehension skills are nil. I will post wherever I want and there is not thing one you can do about it but you on the other hand might  not be around much longer.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 19, 2020, 06:28:58 pm
It's not my reading comprehension. It's my complete lack of interest in your abusive trolling. No one cares about your anger management problem.
What anger management? Seems like you have issues because you don't like it that people posts things. Like I said, you might watch yourself as your days could be numbered. Now continue showing us all your bitchy self. After all, you have been on here most of the day, I haven't,  I have a life, you obviously don't. 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 19, 2020, 06:33:24 pm
I did more before I was 30 than you could do in ten of your lifetimes. It's 5:30. Shouldn't you be getting ready for bed, you dried up old zombie?

You're older than 30? Jebus, I thought you were about 15 or 16.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 19, 2020, 06:36:07 pm
Assault weapons are a class of semi-automatic firearm specifically designed to kill humans quickly and efficiently. They are a relatively new class of weapon—during the 1980s, the gun industry sought to reverse a decline in consumer demand for guns by developing and marketing new types of weapons based on high-powered military designs.1 Between 1994 and 2004, certain “semiautomatic assault weapons” were banned at the federal level, but currently there is no federal law regulating these highly lethal weapons.

Wounds caused by assault weapons are more severe and lethal than wounds caused by other firearms, and, particularly when paired with large capacity magazines, assault weapons can injure more people more quickly. Because of this lethality, assault weapons are frequently the guns of choice for individuals who carry out horrific public attacks.

Ridding the ranch of feral hogs?

Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Texas Pete on February 19, 2020, 06:36:24 pm
One thing I won't have on this forum is racist crap, this thread is locked!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Texas Pete on February 19, 2020, 07:07:59 pm
Lets try this again, the OP would like for this thread to stay on topic which is the coronavirus.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 19, 2020, 07:45:54 pm
This thread needs a vaccine.

Who used to do that in the old Topix. Coffee Party?   
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 19, 2020, 08:36:56 pm
North Korea has claimed that there are no cases of coronavirus in their nation and that Dear Leader Gangnam Style...whatever his name is... is naturally immune

I'm watching contagious now. 1997
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 19, 2020, 08:52:18 pm
I read that there has been a run on games like one called "Pandemic" and another called "Contagion"

I saw Contagion too. What do you mean by a run on games?
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 19, 2020, 08:57:27 pm
I guess the sales of those games has really skyrocketed since this virus outbreak.

Games?
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 19, 2020, 09:00:45 pm
I do know this, despite what the Chinese government might be saying, I have never seen anything like this during my lifetime. There were never "quarantine camps" or travel bans, government workers wearing what look like space suits, burning bodies.... leads me to believe that perhaps they are not being altogether forthcoming with the truthful prognosis.  Maybe that's for the best, to avoid panic and so forth. There's always people that will over-react and cause others to over-react.

I wonder where this virus came from? Is this a form of population control? Who knows? I hope not but who really knows the truth of what's going on. The truth has a way of hiding.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 19, 2020, 09:02:26 pm
They are video games apparently. I am not familiar with them. I have never actually played a video game except one called "Pong" back in the 80's. I still can't figure out how they get that little dot to bounce back and forth like that. Amazing.

Contagion is also a movie. I played Pong too, I luved that game.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 19, 2020, 09:07:56 pm
I read one article that said that city in China where it started is near some kind of bio-warfare facility. But that might just be a rumor, or it may be true but unrelated to what's happening.

Now that's interesting.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 19, 2020, 09:23:49 pm
"The deadly animal virus epidemic spreading globally may have originated in a Wuhan laboratory linked to China’s covert biological weapons program, according to an Israeli biological warfare expert.

Radio Free Asia this week rebroadcast a local Wuhan television report from 2015 showing China’s most advanced virus research laboratory known the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Radio Free Asia reported.

The laboratory is the only declared site in China capable of working with deadly viruses."

"The State Department, in a report last year, said it suspects China has engaged in covert biological warfare work."

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/24/virus-hit-wuhan-has-two-laboratories-linked-chines/

I don't know how credible that is or if it means anything.

That's very interesting. I will try to find out more info on this. Or at least any info. that is publicized. Ususally stuff like this is top secret if true.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 19, 2020, 10:17:36 pm
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6133959748001#sp=show-clips

Could coronavirus be linked to China's biowarfare program?
Feb. 19, 2020 - 3:21 - Reaction and analysis from Washington Times columnist Bill Gertz.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 19, 2020, 10:44:09 pm
https://www.thenation.com/article/environment/coronavirus-habitat-loss/

I didn't think it came from bats.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 19, 2020, 10:46:49 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5ETc73Zh4c

Baby bat doesn't want to let his blanket go. Bats are so cute, and they help the environment by eating tons of bugs!!!!

How on earth can humans get this virus from a bat?
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Texas Pete on February 20, 2020, 09:01:43 am
Good morning folks.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 20, 2020, 05:03:04 pm
Looks like everyone called in sick today. Must be the coming plague.
Funniest joke I heard was a guy was standing in line at some place and went cough, cough. I shouldn't have just flown back from China. Hahahaha
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 20, 2020, 06:32:07 pm
That's funny!
I thought about getting in an elevator and cough and say something about ever since I got home from China, I haven't felt well. Lol.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 20, 2020, 07:14:02 pm
LOL don't do it.....you're better than that.
I wouldn't but it would be funny to do it but I would also be afraid of being arrested for starting a mass chaos or riot. Lol.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 20, 2020, 08:16:25 pm
I wouldn't but it would be funny to do it but I would also be afraid of being arrested for starting a mass chaos or riot. Lol.

CORONAVIRUS PRANK! Subway riders panic as virus is 'spilled!'


https://torontosun.com/news/world/coronavirus-prank-subway-riders-panic-as-virus-is-spilled
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 22, 2020, 06:24:19 am
https://outofyourrut.com/7-reasons-universal-healthcare-wont-work-us/
It won't work in the U.S. because insurance won't allow it and doctors don't want it.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 22, 2020, 08:52:51 am
It works in Canada, it works in France, it works in UK, it works in fng Mexico.  Period.
Those aren't the U.S. so if you so desire go live there but I guarantee you would find out it isn't the greatest of health care.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 22, 2020, 09:34:08 am
Nope. For whatever reasons. People that think as you do just don't want it to work. On average, Canadians have much easier and way more affordable access to health than we do. And, if for their own reasons, they feel it is necessary to get some level of care they are not getting or that they think they need supplemental coverage, nothing prevents them from doing so.  But in my case, I am healthy and there is NO logical reason I should have to pay 15 grand a year for Blue Cross.
The genie's out of the bottle. It's going to happen. It's already happening.

... oh...and by the way, I'm a conservative Republican.  But I have owned and operated businesses and employed people long enough to form an opinion that is reality based and not fed to me.

Now go ahead and 'judge' my post with one of those silly icons.
Really, you  think Canadians have it easier, you are so wrong but then I can't expect you to understand they don't. There supplemental insurance also sucks in Canada but you think it is great.  If you think there health care is so amazing go live there.  I have health insurance and have never paid $15 grand a year, I don't even pay anywhere close to that. You must have sucky insurance to have that. And if you own your so called companies like you claim than why not find better insurance, probably because you don't and can't.  Poor you.
You must be really insecure over judgeit's. I don't even bother to check the ones people give me nor do I care.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 22, 2020, 11:20:00 am
Wow. That was quite a little rant. Fact: I had Blue Cross Blue Shield. It was 1200/month with a 7500/yr deductible no prescription, no optical, no dental..  They kept raising and raising and ultimately discontinued that plan and told me because I was an individual, I would have to go to "the marketplace". Apparently  the "marketplace" is Obamacare. It costs me 75 buck a quarter and covers everything...even glasses and routine dental.
I sliced my leg open and had to have minor surgery...cost me zero. My daughter got her tonsils removed...$0.  So don't tell me what I know. I know what I know from personal experience. And again, I live right on the border with Canada, half the people I know and work with are Canadians... so pardon me if I take their word over yours about what goes on in Canada.
What you don't seem to understand in your angry little world is that no one is telling you that you can't get whatever insurance you want and no one is sticking their hand in your pocket. But the overwhelming majority of us, and especially those of us that don't need much in the way of "doctoring" DO want affordable care. In any case, I hope your gold-plated plan covers alcohol rehab. Your need to argue with total strangers leads me to believe you're probably a drinker.
If you don't like what I write, go somewhere else and bother someone on one of those ridiculous word game threads. I have no interest in carrying on a pointless conversation with an internet troll.

Really, you are the only person that has judged my posts...like 35 times.  It was pretty hard not to notice that kind of childishness coming from an 'adult'.
TLDR most of your bs. Your insecurity is showing along with your stupidity about telling an anonymous person they must be a drinker. Hate to disappoint you but I don't drink but you on the other must think you are qualified to make that assumption which you know what assumes means. You are making an ass out of yourself.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 22, 2020, 01:51:29 pm
More for us, eh? yum...
Lol!!!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 22, 2020, 02:52:12 pm
Nope. For whatever reasons. People that think as you do just don't want it to work. On average, Canadians have much easier and way more affordable access to health than we do. And, if for their own reasons, they feel it is necessary to get some level of care they are not getting or that they think they need supplemental coverage, nothing prevents them from doing so.  But in my case, I am healthy and there is NO logical reason I should have to pay 15 grand a year for Blue Cross.
The genie's out of the bottle. It's going to happen. It's already happening.

... oh...and by the way, I'm a conservative Republican.  But I have owned and operated businesses and employed people long enough to form an opinion that is reality based and not fed to me.

Now go ahead and 'judge' my post with one of those silly icons.

So, in your socialist utopia doctors, nurses, lab technicians, are persona non grata? 

There was a Canadian in the old Topix bragging about how much doctors make in Canada. Turned out to be less than a hockey player. It's something for the state to own your craft. That's liberty? Do you value hockey players more than a surgeon?  A NJ state trooper can make more than a Canadian doctor.

Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 22, 2020, 03:29:20 pm
So, in your socialist utopia doctors, nurses, lab technicians, are persona non grata? 

There was a Canadian in the old Topix bragging about how much doctors make in Canada. Turned out to be less than a hockey player. It's something for the state to own your craft. That's liberty. Do you value hockey players more than a surgeon?  A NJ state trooper can make more than a Canadian doctor.
Even with the health care they have and the supplemental insurance they have, people still have to pay a lot for quality care.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 22, 2020, 05:02:20 pm
Personally, I think teachers should be making more. But that's another whole topic.

I do too. 
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 22, 2020, 05:04:07 pm
Get lost, pansy. You are the least interesting and most incoherent of all the no-life-having little misfits here.

Friggin communist. What right do you have to another's knowledge and ability?   
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 22, 2020, 05:14:04 pm
Not even close to what we pay. Go troll someone else. You're boring.
I can post anywhere I like and not one thing you can do about it. So cry all you want.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 22, 2020, 05:15:20 pm
Personally, I think teachers should be making more. But that's another whole topic.
Yep, teachers don't get paid enough and the people who think they have summers off are so off base. If getting summers off mean going back to work on certifications than yeah, that isn't much of a summer off.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 22, 2020, 05:25:26 pm
You are so childish and boring. Some trolls are funny. You're just too dim witted to pull it off.
You are too stupid for any of us to care. You think you are smart and you aren't.  We all know that. You are just pissed that you can't do anything about where I post. Poor thing, continue crying.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 22, 2020, 05:29:55 pm
You are too stupid to realize that I have you dancing to my tune Like a little hillbilly rat in a maze.. Look at you. You're obsessed with me.
Right, you are the one obsessed.  After all you spend your life on here, I don't.  Now keep crying. After all, you hate being smacked down like you have been. Hahahaha
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on February 22, 2020, 05:30:48 pm
??? ??? ??? ???
Just give it some judgeit's,  that drives Faith batshyte crazy and makes it insecure.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 22, 2020, 05:34:44 pm
I'm a Republican. I have voted twice in my life, straight Republican. You're a punk.

Oh, another friggen neocon.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 22, 2020, 07:34:54 pm
It's hard to believe there are people as dull and brain-dead as you. You're pathetic.

That's all you got?
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 26, 2020, 09:14:45 am
US Army soldier tests positive for COVID-19 in South Korea, marking the first time a US service member is confirmed to have the disease

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-soldier-coronavirus-in-south-korea-test-positive-2020-2

Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 29, 2020, 03:22:20 am
‪"On Thursday afternoon when Ryan Ozawa hit the Iwilei Costco next door to his office in Hawaii, he ran straight into a long line of carts stretching the length of the store as shoppers waited for toilet paper and paper towels.‬
‪Costco employees were limiting shoppers to five packages of each and hand loading them into carts.‬

Similar scenes have played out across the country and around the globe in recent days as consumers, heeding warnings from health officials, equipped themselves with basic necessities in case the coronavirus spreads to their community.

More widespread shortages could hit retailers in the coming weeks, experts warn, which could drive up prices.

Advice to consumers: If something is "mission critical" to your life, get it now, says Sam Polakoff, president and CEO at Nexterus Inc., which sources supplies for companies. "

Sounds like the ordeal some years ago, where people were told to stock up on batteries, flashlights and duct tape.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 29, 2020, 03:24:22 am
‪"On Thursday afternoon when Ryan Ozawa hit the Iwilei Costco next door to his office in Hawaii, he ran straight into a long line of carts stretching the length of the store as shoppers waited for toilet paper and paper towels.‬
‪Costco employees were limiting shoppers to five packages of each and hand loading them into carts.‬

Similar scenes have played out across the country and around the globe in recent days as consumers, heeding warnings from health officials, equipped themselves with basic necessities in case the coronavirus spreads to their community.

More widespread shortages could hit retailers in the coming weeks, experts warn, which could drive up prices.

Advice to consumers: If something is "mission critical" to your life, get it now, says Sam Polakoff, president and CEO at Nexterus Inc., which sources supplies for companies. "

As I said before, this virus sounds like a money making scheme. I'm out of toilet paper as of today, have one roll left.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 29, 2020, 03:28:24 am
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/02/26/809650625/a-guide-how-to-prepare-your-home-for-coronavirus

Here we go again.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on February 29, 2020, 07:32:21 am
150 people in Florida being monitored for the coronavirus.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 29, 2020, 12:22:19 pm
The crisis is not that there's a bad cold going around. What makes this global 'emergency' different than past events is that now we have 'social media' and this one has gone....well....'viral'.  The real hardship is not the disease itself, which seems like it's no worse than the other corona viruses that go round and round every year and are called 'colds', the calamity is the pandemic of panic that is going to cause shortages and mass hysteria.

That's exactly what Trump said in his speech Wednesday!  Doesn't want a panick, no need, it's like any other flu that they are dealing with. Fear sells..the media wants to put panick on people, which is wrong.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 29, 2020, 12:25:48 pm
I read that there are already 4 coronaviruses that are permanently circulating in the human population and along with rhinoviruses they infect almost all of us every year and we call that a "cold". A cold being not a specific disease but a set of common symptoms.

The medical community is trying to contain this virus so that they can render it extinct in humans before it gets so widespread that it joins that group of permanent resident viruses. But it's already too late and all-in-all, it's just another cold.
I don't give a sht which of these viruses causes me to get a cold. But If I go to the store and can't get toilet paper or Nyquil because everyone else in the country read some stupid bullshit on Twitter,... I'm going to get slightly pissed off!!!

You took the words right out of my mouth! Right On!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 29, 2020, 12:27:22 pm
In Hong Kong, the first case of a dog catching the coronavirus from a Chinaman  been reported. Now it's getting serious.
If you needed another reason to find the Chinese distasteful here it is:(http://)

Cat's wearing a mask will be next.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 29, 2020, 12:31:37 pm
Health officials in the Unites States say Americans need to begin preparing for the spread of coronavirus in the U.S. as the disease continues to spread across the globe. While speaking with reporters Tuesday, Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said it’s no longer a case of “if” the disease will spread in the U.S., but when.
“We are asking the American public to prepare for the expectation that this might be bad,” Dr. Messonnier said.

Messonnier went on to say health officials don’t know how severe the spread will be, but that Americans could expect a “significant disruption” to their everyday lives in the near future.

https://www.mlive.com/news/2020/02/cdc-health-officials-say-spread-of-coronavirus-is-going-to-happen-in-the-us-this-might-be-bad.html

The significant disruption will be sick with a flu for a couple weeks. I gotta go get my toilet paper today, I'm down to one roll.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 29, 2020, 12:34:42 pm
Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer announced Friday (2/28) that she has ordered the activation of Michigan's Emergency Operations Center... whatever that is. She warned that there is nothing we can do to stop the coronavirus and that there is no vaccine.

She went on to urge Michiganders to observe the following measures to mitigate the spread:

Wash your hands frequently

Try to practice not touching your face as often

Avoid handshakes and instead 'elbow bump' or 'fist bump' (I'm not making this up)

Does that include touching Dks! lol
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 29, 2020, 12:36:02 pm
Pope Francis has cancelled official audiences for a second day in succession after being taken ill.

The Vatican said the 83-year-old had celebrated morning Mass as usual and greeted participants at the end. He planned to keep his private meeting schedule as planned but decided to cancel official audiences.

It did not reveal what the pontiff is suffering from, but he was coughing and blowing his nose during Ash Wednesday Mass this week.

Good excuse to take the day off.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 29, 2020, 12:38:37 pm
As of 2/29, the mortality rate for this epidemic stands at 3.5% for Chinese and 1.4% for members of civilized humanity.  It's basically only clipping those who are already infirm.  No worse than the seasonal flu.

We sure are having some LEAP YEAR! lEaping right into the pond. lol
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 29, 2020, 12:39:52 pm
We sure are having some LEAP YEAR! lEaping right into the pond. lol

Or rather leaping into the swamp!
drain the swamp!

Get that toilet paper before it runs out! lol
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 29, 2020, 12:41:07 pm
‪"On Thursday afternoon when Ryan Ozawa hit the Iwilei Costco next door to his office in Hawaii, he ran straight into a long line of carts stretching the length of the store as shoppers waited for toilet paper and paper towels.‬
‪Costco employees were limiting shoppers to five packages of each and hand loading them into carts.‬

Similar scenes have played out across the country and around the globe in recent days as consumers, heeding warnings from health officials, equipped themselves with basic necessities in case the coronavirus spreads to their community.

More widespread shortages could hit retailers in the coming weeks, experts warn, which could drive up prices.

Advice to consumers: If something is "mission critical" to your life, get it now, says Sam Polakoff, president and CEO at Nexterus Inc., which sources supplies for companies. "

I'm missing toilet paper in my life, I better get it now!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 29, 2020, 12:42:50 pm
150 people in Florida being monitored for the coronavirus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSTQCf6BAFM

Monitor this!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 29, 2020, 12:49:13 pm
I read that there are already 4 coronaviruses that are permanently circulating in the human population and along with rhinoviruses they infect almost all of us every year and we call that a "cold". A cold being not a specific disease but a set of common symptoms.

The medical community is trying to contain this virus so that they can render it extinct in humans before it gets so widespread that it joins that group of permanent resident viruses. But it's already too late and all-in-all, it's just another cold.
I don't give a sht which of these viruses causes me to get a cold. But If I go to the store and can't get toilet paper or Nyquil because everyone else in the country read some stupid bullshit on Twitter,... I'm going to get slightly pissed off!!!

I'm gonna get Nyquill too. And non perishible items. I need lent food which I get every year like tuna and soup anyway.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 29, 2020, 03:49:49 pm
Coronavirus live updates: First US death reported in Washington state, officials say


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/02/29/coronavirus-outbreak-live-updates-oregon-case-italy-level-3-california/4904296002/
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 29, 2020, 04:05:15 pm
There's not a whole lot of information about her. Did she smoke? Did she have cancer? A bad heart? COPD?

She was older. Other than that, I don't know. They're all possibilities.

You're not going to get a lot of information unless it fits an agenda.

Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on February 29, 2020, 04:19:28 pm
The only thing we have to fear is fear itself -  FDR
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 29, 2020, 06:13:32 pm
What could possibly go wrong?

"(Bloomberg) -- Chinese duck platoons are waiting to be deployed to neighboring Pakistan to fight a swarm of crop-eating pests that threaten regional food security.

At least 100,000 ducks are expected to be sent to Pakistan as early as the second half of this year to combat a desert locust outbreak. One duck is able to eat more than 200 locusts a day.

In other unusual tactics, Pakistan’s government urged its citizens to eat locusts too. People should take advantage of the situation and barbecue locusts or make a curry."

Never say whats next.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Texas Pete on March 04, 2020, 10:25:21 am
(https://i.imgur.com/l26mUIe.jpg)
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: _ _ on March 04, 2020, 01:18:38 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/l26mUIe.jpg)

Lol....I’ll take 6 bottles! 😂
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Texas Pete on March 04, 2020, 06:34:37 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/6ukhX21.jpg)
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Mark J on March 05, 2020, 06:55:23 pm
(https://preview.redd.it/qrbag9u7uwk41.jpg?width=640&height=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a105ce7e2ac2ea369307c160d429b841b5038c7d)
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on March 08, 2020, 05:14:19 pm
I havn't been following the coronavirus since Trumps 1st speech about it.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on March 08, 2020, 05:14:58 pm
"At least 70 staffers at the nursing facility in Washington state that's become the epicenter of the U.S. coronavirus outbreak have shown symptoms and been asked to stay home.

"We cannot make any promises that further exposure in the center is not happening," Tim Killian, a spokesperson for Life Care Center, said at a press conference on Saturday."

I hope everybody is ok.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Texas Pete on March 08, 2020, 09:01:52 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/gPtHfNf.jpg)
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: joanna50 on March 15, 2020, 07:47:37 pm
More cases of COVID-19 are likely to be identified in the United States in the coming days, including more instances of community spread. It’s likely that at some point, widespread transmission of COVID-19 in the United States will occur. Widespread transmission of COVID-19 would translate into large numbers of people needing medical care at the same time. Schools, childcare centers, and workplaces, may experience more absenteeism. Mass gatherings may be sparsely attended or postponed. Public health and healthcare systems may become overloaded, with elevated rates of hospitalizations and deaths. Other critical infrastructure, such as law enforcement, emergency medical services, and sectors of the transportation industry may also be affected. Healthcare providers and hospitals may be overwhelmed. At this time, there is no vaccine to protect against COVID-19 and no medications approved to treat it. Nonpharmaceutical interventions would be the most important response strategy.
I think the media is making more of this than it really is, most likely a political ploy of some sort
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on March 24, 2020, 07:44:47 am
If his lips or thumbs are moving...
 


From the man who insists on referring to the COVID-19 as the “China virus” and who has downplayed the severity of the pandemic — even comparing it to the “common flu” just two weeks ago, while the coronavirus ravaged countries all over the world — President Donald Trump is now suggesting that medical ventilators are quickly being produced by automakers.

This isn't entirely true.

Last week, Trump signed the Defense Production Act, which would allow companies to shift gears and produce necessary, in-demand goods, like life-saving ventilators. These medical devices assist those who cannot breathe on their own by delivering air through a tube into the patient's lungs, which is vital to those with coronavirus, as COVID-19 attacks the respiratory system.



According to The New York Times, there are 170,000 ventilators in the US. However, the American Hospital Association projects that more than 960,000 people will require a medical ventilator during the pandemic. In New York, they have just 5,000 ventilators, while estimates point to needing close to 30,000 to properly combat the growing number of positive COVID-19 cases.

However, Trump has yet to actually invoke the act.

According to a tweet posted last week, Trump claims he will invoke the act only if we find ourselves hurtling toward a “worst-case scenario in the future,” you know, like right TOGETHER!

During a briefing on Saturday, Trump claimed that he had conducted calls with General Motors, Ford, and “so many companies,” and said that these companies were currently in the process of making ventilators. Trump gave these companies the go-ahead to do so.

“Go for it auto execs, lets see how good you are?” he tweeted.

However, many of these companies have come forward and are offering their resources independently of Trump's greenlight. Manufacturing engineers at GM were already communicating with ventilator manufacturers before Trump's tweet, which has “baffled” the very companies he namedropped.

The Associated Press fact-checked the President's most recent claims and reveals that neither Ford or GM have started ventilator production and, if they did, they may not see results for months or longer, which may be too late to accommodate the impending medical supply shortage. Ventilators come with a hefty price tag, too. As The Washington Post reports, ventilators range from $25,000-$50,000 apiece. Not to mention there are rigorous testing and strict regulatory processes that ventilator production requires, which can take up to a year or more to be approved.

It should also be noted that the Defense Production Act is most commonly invoked to instruct companies to prioritize production contracts for goods it already makes, like medical supply companies. Outfitting auto manufacturing facilities with equipment needed to produce a product it does not normally produce may prove to be a lengthy process.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on March 24, 2020, 07:53:36 am
I think the media is making more of this than it really is, most likely a political ploy of some sort
Trump's "wartime president" shtick is ghastly — and it could totally work
Trump has found his 2020 strategy — posing as a real president on TV. Once again, cable news is his biggest ally

He's simply taken his rallies from the nations arenas to cable television news and it seems to be working out for his ratings and the news programs rating__a win win__except for the American people who are being scared out of their wits with misinformation and lies.

https://www.salon.com/2020/03/24/trumps-wartime-president-shtick-is-ghastly--and-it-could-totally-work/

terrific story
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Ride The Lightning on April 12, 2020, 01:53:00 pm
https://youtu.be/C_ijc7A5oAc
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on June 06, 2020, 02:16:39 pm
The Corona has not left, it is not over. It has made its entrance into our population. It is with us now and it is here to stay.  Come winter, the real pandemic will begin in earnest.

There better not be NO MORE lock downs! People are losing their jobs, businesses, homes, freedoms.

No More!  Corona will join the other hundreds of strains of viruses out there. Life goes on.

Wearing these masks reminds me of Muslim practices. Things are going too far now, people are sick of these crazy restrictions.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on June 11, 2020, 08:59:23 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/Gj6vNSo.png)

The younger generations are smarter than people think.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on June 11, 2020, 09:02:14 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/sbPFqBr.png)
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on June 11, 2020, 09:04:45 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/Ep7eUQ8.png)
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: joanna50 on June 16, 2020, 08:14:16 am
As the Coronavirus effects nature's own form of Eugenics on our faltering species, culling the weakest and least productive from among us, we are suddenly reminded that our lack of humility is the most dangerous foe we face.

 Perhaps this experience could be a seminal moment for humankind, where we become more conscientious in our stewardship of the limited resources at our disposal. More likely, any lessons to be had will be quickly forgotten and we will resume racing one another down the path of self-destruction.
I wouldn't call the elderly the weakest, after all they didn't become elderly by being sissies
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on June 25, 2020, 06:04:29 pm
Actually, they are dumber..as evidenced by these recent riots and the large gatherings at bars and beaches during the worst global pandemic in the past 100 years.

Hey, people are just trying to live their lives, Paco. How about we lock the whole world up for 2 years, sound good?
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Lady luck on June 26, 2020, 09:30:50 am
Whoa - who you calling Paco? His name is Faith.

At least 1 year...or a vaccine...which ever comes first.

 ;)
Exactly,  if that is what it takes to make people healthy and combat this virus than lets do it.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on June 26, 2020, 03:07:06 pm
Despite that the US is arguably the richest and most highly developed nation in the world, the catastrophic effects of this pandemic on our nation is more in keeping with a poorly equipped Third World nation.  Every one of us is in potentially mortal danger at this very moment because of the wildfire spread of this virus.

Why?

Because we are the only nation affected that has made the deadly pandemic a political issue.  And that is so utterly irrational that it dashes our credibility among civilized nations.
Whatchu mean we?  We didn't make sht, the Republicans on orders from their Lord and Savior made it political.

My neighbor has the corona, a light dose, hospital for a couple of days and home now on quarantine. No clue how how he came about it, never a fever or a cough but one day thought he was having a stroke so he had his wife take him to the emergency room where he tested positive. In a few days he'll get another test and if it's negative__he'll take another test the next day and if it's negative he'll be back out and about. He's older than me, so he's lucky.  Another guy I know also recovered from the virus although he was on a ventilator for a few days and  says it's a horrible experience.

So apparently there are different degrees of this infection that depend on where, when and what/who you came in contact with. Neither one knows where they were infected although the health department officials interviewed each in an attempt to trace their whereabouts.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on June 26, 2020, 05:49:43 pm
Trump still talks and behaves as if this pandemic was specifically created to discredit him. And that by seeking treatment and yielding to cautionary measures is a direct rebuke of his legitimacy.
That sumbitch is nuts!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on June 26, 2020, 07:08:52 pm
His name is Faith

LMFAO

It's Paca, not Paco.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on June 26, 2020, 07:10:57 pm
His name is Victoria ... who you calling Rico ... get your names straight!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: NC Yankee on June 26, 2020, 07:31:16 pm
I somehow accidentally wound up in this god forsaken thread and didn't mean to post here.  I usually rip on Faith on the thread Faith followed me to. 

I was looking for these posts and was wondering where they went.  Then I realized I posted on the wrong thread.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on June 26, 2020, 08:33:07 pm
Whoa - who you calling Paco? His name is Faith.

At least 1 year...or a vaccine...which ever comes first.

 ;)

I'd rather do 1 year in  quarantine, God knows whats going to be in that vaccine!
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on June 26, 2020, 08:38:35 pm
Whoa - who you calling Paco? His name is Faith.

At least 1 year...or a vaccine...which ever comes first.

 ;)

Paco is Serpico.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Realtime on June 27, 2020, 10:01:38 am
"The president later said he thought that "testing is overrated," adding, "I created the greatest testing machine in history."

He also said, however, that more testing in the US had led to an increase in confirmed cases. "In many ways, it makes us look bad," he said.

It isn't the first time Trump has made the claim. The president said last week during a roundtable event for seniors that "if we stop testing right now, we'd have very few cases, actually."

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-americans-wearing-masks-show-disapproval-not-as-preventive-measure-2020-6
He's too gd stupid to realize that the testing sites also record the negative results.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on July 01, 2020, 09:38:49 am
Covid deaths on: JUNE 5 2020



(Attachment Link)

Did you look at deaths per 100 thousand?
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Teaman on July 01, 2020, 10:48:07 am
I'm only concerned with what goes on in the US.
As the (supposedly) richest and most developed nation in history, we should not be in the predicament we're in.

It looks like we're not doing so bad in comparison. Germany is better.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on July 02, 2020, 08:54:33 pm
"On Monday (6/29/20), the World Health Organization marked the six months since a cluster of cases of a mysterious pneumonia in China was reported with a warning that the pandemic is "actually speeding up."

"We all want this to be over. We all want to get on with our lives," WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said in his opening statement. "But the hard reality is: This is not even close to being over."

I guess its how the numbers go.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on July 03, 2020, 12:45:58 am
"The novel coronavirus is showing some signs of mutating in a way that may make it easier for the pathogen to spread, according to Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

There is research underway that suggests a single mutation affecting a specific amino acid is emerging that allows the virus to replicate better and create a higher viral load, measures that could make it easier to transmit, Fauci said at an online event hosted by the Journal of the American Medical Association."

Here we go....They make up the rules as this goes along. I'm sorry but I'm not buying all this. How do we know they aren't making stuff up, I guess we just have to take their word for it.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Texas Pete on August 11, 2020, 08:15:30 am
Expected 300,000 dead from virus by December.
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 200,000 Dead!
Post by: anonymous on September 29, 2020, 11:17:16 am
The Trump virus is killing our country!
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 200,000 Dead!
Post by: joanna50 on October 03, 2020, 10:22:35 pm
The Trump virus is killing our country!
Actually stupidity and selfishness is killing our country so yeah i guess it is the Trump virus
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 200,000 Dead!
Post by: positronium on October 07, 2020, 10:53:19 am
It is the rationalizing of ignorance by both parties....
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 200,000 Dead!
Post by: Doobie on October 28, 2020, 12:16:05 pm
If You Don't Quit Wearing The Mask you won't have any antibodies left to fight off any germs or viruses in the future........Even the W.H.O. Idiots are confirming that now....
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 200,000 Dead!
Post by: Jackie on December 01, 2020, 07:41:35 pm
trump virus, ha!

Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 200,000 Dead!
Post by: The Trump Virus on December 03, 2020, 08:26:34 am
With the help of Trump I'm killing 3,000 a day!
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 200,000 Dead!
Post by: Waco1909 on December 23, 2020, 01:07:28 am
I see Faith is too gutless to make a comment. Damn punk.
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 200,000 Dead!
Post by: positronium on December 23, 2020, 09:47:55 am
HAHAHA
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: joanna50 on February 06, 2021, 10:13:57 pm
Here we go....They make up the rules as this goes along. I'm sorry but I'm not buying all this. How do we know they aren't making stuff up, I guess we just have to take their word for it.
Its real but i think unless you are personally affected its easier to believe it isnt
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on February 06, 2021, 10:40:24 pm
Its real but i think unless you are personally affected its easier to believe it isnt
She’s an all time nut case who wont view any news and just parrots her precious Trumptard’s bs which makes Jackie laughable at best.

She’s a conspiracy junkie.
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 200,000 Dead!
Post by: Misty Fitch on February 06, 2021, 10:41:00 pm
PUlease...it is NOT the Trump virus. It is the China virus and the radical left is profiting greatly by this PLan-demic
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Misty Fitch on February 06, 2021, 10:42:51 pm
She’s an all time nut case who wont view any news and just parrots her precious Trumptard’s bs which makes Jackie laughable at best.

She’s a conspiracy junkie.

Trumptard's....HA.

MAGA
#Trump24
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on February 06, 2021, 10:47:09 pm
Trumptard's....HA.

MAGA
#Trump24
I call it as I see it. He’s a very foolish man.
Howdy friend 👋
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Misty Fitch on February 06, 2021, 10:54:28 pm
I call it as I see it. He’s a very foolish man.
Howdy friend 👋

As much as I like him, I can see what you mean. Many times I give would him some good advice (speaking to my tv screen) and he never listened. I think he is definitely a person one either loves or hates. Hello and nice to be back among friends. Nice to post with you again.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on February 06, 2021, 11:08:36 pm
As much as I like him, I can see what you mean. Many times I give would him some good advice (speaking to my tv screen) and he never listened. I think he is definitely a person one either loves or hates. Hello and nice to be back among friends. Nice to post with you again.
All true.
Hey, thanks for this friend. This is really nice and the feeling is mutual. Good people to post with are many here, and having them as friends is so much the better. 🙂

Nice posting with you as well.
Ya know, earlier I was unhappy with the way I’ve lost another friend and sorta gave a retaliation when I usually wouldn’t. But some friends just kick you to the curb when I won’t do that. And if they came back I’d show this.
I can’t stay mad at someone and I I’m not mean spirited and won’t hold a grudge.
It’s just not who I am.

Thank you again my good friend. ✌️🙂
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 200,000 Dead!
Post by: positronium on February 07, 2021, 07:20:16 pm
PUlease...it is NOT the Trump virus. It is the China virus and the radical left is profiting greatly by this PLan-demic
Agree
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Misty Fitch on February 07, 2021, 07:47:30 pm
All true.
Hey, thanks for this friend. This is really nice and the feeling is mutual. Good people to post with are many here, and having them as friends is so much the better. 🙂

Nice posting with you as well.
Ya know, earlier I was unhappy with the way I’ve lost another friend and sorta gave a retaliation when I usually wouldn’t. But some friends just kick you to the curb when I won’t do that. And if they came back I’d show this.
I can’t stay mad at someone and I I’m not mean spirited and won’t hold a grudge.
It’s just not who I am.

Thank you again my good friend. ✌️🙂

I use to be very mean spirited and I would get revenge or die trying, but I try to keep walking with God now and I seek his guidance. Sometimes I have to really pray about this, because by nature I am very confrontational and it goes against who I am not to fight back. About 10 years ago, I had to burn several journals I had kept. I did want my kids to ever read them. I still write in my journal v=every day, but it is rather boring and nothing in them would send me to jail.
I don't hold grudges now either. I used to think people do not change. I was wrong. People can change and I know that for sure.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Cygnus-X1 on February 09, 2021, 05:12:15 pm
I use to be very mean spirited and I would get revenge or die trying, but I try to keep walking with God now and I seek his guidance. Sometimes I have to really pray about this, because by nature I am very confrontational and it goes against who I am not to fight back. About 10 years ago, I had to burn several journals I had kept. I did want my kids to ever read them. I still write in my journal v=every day, but it is rather boring and nothing in them would send me to jail.
I don't hold grudges now either. I used to think people do not change. I was wrong. People can change and I know that for sure.
Huh, you and I were the exact opposites when young, and now regarding religion. lol

I’ll touch on this later. ✌️
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: Jackie on February 14, 2021, 09:03:50 pm
Its real but i think unless you are personally affected its easier to believe it isnt

yeah its real, but exaggerted. wash them hands, and keep away frm pople even in our own home. tĥeres this crazy ad that rolsaround daily, i her it all the time änd it makes me laugh.
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Faith on February 26, 2021, 08:28:33 am
Masks work. The end.
Title: Re: The Coming Plague
Post by: positronium on February 26, 2021, 09:18:44 am
All I can say is that I'm glad my Lily White English/Polish ass isn't Xenophonian and this thread is dumb.

The end
Couldn't agree more....
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Faith on March 25, 2021, 11:50:46 pm
Trump lied, people died.....lots of people.
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Groot on May 18, 2021, 07:45:25 am
500,000 +
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: CrystalClear722 on May 19, 2021, 04:46:23 pm
Trump lied, people died.....lots of people.

Thank God, for Biden!
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: positronium on May 19, 2021, 09:26:43 pm
Thank God, for Biden!
I hope he can find his own easter eggs...
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Doobie on April 14, 2022, 11:12:53 am
Here You Go Nov. 3rd, 2020 right around when joe biden was put in office look at CNN totals of U.S. Deaths By COVID

https://youtu.be/CVLpAMlaoM8


So What's The Count Now With biden and his great build back America plan

https://youtu.be/dyMQ-RzF_wo


More Died With joe biden in office than Trump........... and still climbing...........Let's Go Branden
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: positronium on April 14, 2022, 02:52:29 pm
Here You Go Nov. 3rd, 2020 right around when joe biden was put in office look at CNN totals of U.S. Deaths By COVID

https://youtu.be/CVLpAMlaoM8


So What's The Count Now With biden and his great build back America plan

https://youtu.be/dyMQ-RzF_wo


More Died With joe biden in office than Trump........... and still climbing...........Let's Go Branden
Well stated...Exactly
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Lady luck on April 14, 2022, 06:42:05 pm
All politicans lie, some are just better than others.
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Doobie on July 19, 2022, 04:49:23 pm
More Have Died With Biden In Office and with the vaccines......medication break throughs............


Can You Imagine if Biden Was President when COVID Hit America.......We Still Wouldn't Have Vaccines or medication....WARP Speed Would Never Have Happened With Biden...Period
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: anonymous on July 22, 2022, 09:26:12 pm
More Have Died With Biden In Office and with the vaccines......medication break throughs............


Can You Imagine if Biden Was President when COVID Hit America.......We Still Wouldn't Have Vaccines or medication....WARP Speed Would Never Have Happened With Biden...Period
Stick to the counting threads moron.
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: MAGA Nuts on July 22, 2022, 09:28:05 pm
More Have Died With Biden In Office and with the vaccines......medication break throughs............


Can You Imagine if Biden Was President when COVID Hit America.......We Still Wouldn't Have Vaccines or medication....WARP Speed Would Never Have Happened With Biden...Period
I thought you rethugs said it was a hoax and no one died from it?
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Groot on July 23, 2022, 07:52:31 am
(https://i.imgur.com/r2cifNB.jpg)
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Groot on July 23, 2022, 08:43:43 am
(https://i.imgur.com/EqiZrMi.png)
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Sprocket on October 03, 2022, 09:58:31 am
Thin out the weak kill all the backwards bastards
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: positronium on October 03, 2022, 05:24:28 pm
Thin out the weak kill all the backwards bastards
Send then through the gates of purgatory....
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Faith-B on February 15, 2023, 07:12:54 am
I have been trying to follow this epidemic in China. It is quite obvious given the extreme measures they have taken that they are grossly understating the severity of this outbreak. They have isolated at least 60 million people, they are speed-building hospitals and now they are burning corpses without funerals.  Also, the US is setting up quarantine bases and preparing for calamity in ways that I never remember seeing during my lifetime.


I read that the number of Coronavirus infections doubles  roughly every 3 days, with death rate doubling at a similar rate, lagging by about 10 days... If this we’re to continue unabated the entire population of earth could be infected in 60 days, give or take.

Still I have trouble feeling sympathy for the Chinese given the way they treat animals in those disgusting "wet markets" of theirs and the practices of slaughtering endangered species for their bizarre and revolting culinary practices as well as the witchcraft of their 'traditional medicine'. 

Maybe hitting the reset button on our species is a long-overdue eventuality.
Gee. If only we knew then what we know now.
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: positronium on February 15, 2023, 12:09:47 pm
Concur
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Faith-B on February 19, 2023, 08:04:06 pm
For the sake of posterity:

"It has been two years since the first COVID-19 vaccine was given to a patient in the United States. Since then, the U.S. has administered more than 655 million doses — 80 percent of the population has received at least one dose — with the cumulative effect of preventing more than 18 million additional hospitalizations and more than 3 million additional deaths. The swift development of the vaccine, emergency authorization to distribute widely, and rapid rollout have been instrumental in curbing hospitalization and death, while mitigating socioeconomic repercussions of the pandemic."

Globally, as of 8:47pm CET, 17 February 2023, there have been :

756,581,850 confirmed cases of COVID-19

6,844,267 deaths, reported to WHO

13,195,832,385 vaccine doses have been administered.

101,496,168  confirmed cases in the USA


1,103,936  deaths in the USA
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Faith-B on March 02, 2023, 02:11:50 pm
The environment is more important than the economy.

Ideally, a sustainable compromise between wants and needs could be had if our leaders were able to transcend momentary  greed and pettiness for the sake of our species' long-term existence. But the best we can hope for is a perverse gridlock perpetuated by a gang of impotent self important bureaucrats that favor grandstanding over greater good. It is unfortunately  the hallmark of our times that extremists and fringe lunatics hold sway while the sane majority is forced to endure the cacophony of chaos and squealing that squelches all rational discourse or progress. 

One would think that persons elected to such lofty offices would be possessed of that minimal shred of grace that would oblige them to duty in a time of global crisis - such as a wildfire global pandemic or slaughterhouse war been waged in the homeland of our own cousins. But their egos and hatred has blinded them even to that what should should be instinct.

Right wing conspiracy yarns have become elevator music. No one cares anymore. Trump's not even worth hating he's doing county fairs and banquet halls. Even the **** crazies noticed he lost his magic. It was bound to happen. No one can speak so much untruth without it eventually going out of style, even in DC. The pandemic was/is not political, nor is the vaccine. Faucci isn't a "deep state" arch villain, he's an epidemiologist. Science isn't the work of satan because satan does not exist. For certain quarters to have made climate change and the pandemic  political issues is so absurd that it defies rational explanation.

Of course all of these things are related. Climate change, drought, wildfire, pandemic, plague, famine, war, forced migration and all of these things are the direct result of this misguided notion that an imaginary being in the sky gave man dominion over the planet and all its inhabitants to use as a garbage dump and whorehouse in perpetuity and without consequence. We have become an invasive species.

 The prime mover of all calamity vexing humankind is over-population. We have exceeded the carrying capacity of the planet many times over.

Anyhow, regarding the pandemic. It seems that the virus has to a large degree assimilated itself into that population of generic viruses that cause the yearly illnesses we call colds and flu. A few die, some get profoundly ill, most don't...

.....and the long march of evolution continues for monkeys and microbes alike...

Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: positronium on March 02, 2023, 03:09:24 pm
What a ration of shiite....
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Faith-B on March 02, 2023, 03:14:16 pm
What a ration of shiite....
Keep trying little man.
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: positronium on March 02, 2023, 03:41:50 pm
Keep trying little man.
Keep mincing, little lady.....
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Faith-B on March 02, 2023, 03:42:25 pm
Yawwwn.
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: positronium on March 02, 2023, 04:30:52 pm
Not "legion" one lonely shutin troll....
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Faith-B on March 02, 2023, 04:40:56 pm
Not "legion" one lonely shutin troll....
You still following me around like a puppy?
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Jackie on March 03, 2023, 03:02:53 am
The Democrats blame Trump for everything, azzholes.
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: positronium on March 03, 2023, 12:04:48 pm
The Democrats blame Trump for everything, azzholes.
The hate they carry clouds their brains....
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Faith-B on March 03, 2023, 12:12:56 pm
The Democrats blame Trump for everything, azzholes.
Trump bungled America's response to the pandemic.
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Jackie on January 03, 2024, 07:37:45 am
Trump bungled America's response to the pandemic.

Trumps not a tyrant.
Title: Re: The Trump Virus, 500,000 Dead!
Post by: Sprocket on January 14, 2024, 03:47:18 pm
Trumps a selfish crybaby who doesn’t care about you or me only Himself