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Posted by: NC Yankee
« on: September 16, 2019, 02:31:54 pm »

I am going with trolling on this one.  Hard to believe that tea is that clueless.
 
Amazing how much credibility internet righties are willing to sacrifice to carry the water of republican elites who would not **** on them if they were on fire.

Since you will just embarrass yourself if you have to defend your policie I made you and weepy a thread where you can agree with each other, tell each other how smart you are, and tell each other how dumb conservatives are.
Posted by: NC Yankee
« on: September 16, 2019, 02:26:05 pm »

You just did the liberal trifecta.

First, you only respond to a person who agrees with you, cause that why you don't have to look like foolish attempting to articulate why the policies you advocate for are good.

Second, in doing so you insult Teaman and call him a troll just cause he asked you to explain yourself.

Third, you finish your post with a conclusory statement about what internet righties will sacrifice and what republican elites don't care about, without supporting such conclusions with any facts or reasoning whatsoever.

It's so predictable.  I love it.  You could be a case study in the liberal thought process or more accurately the lack of a thought process.  <<< that's my conclusion but notice I support my conclusions with facts and reasoning, unlike you.

If you could shout him down over the Internet I bet you would!
Posted by: NC Yankee
« on: September 16, 2019, 02:24:43 pm »

I am going with trolling on this one.  Hard to believe that tea is that clueless.
 
Amazing how much credibility internet righties are willing to sacrifice to carry the water of republican elites who would not **** on them if they were on fire.

You just did the liberal trifecta.

First, you only respond to a person who agrees with you, cause that why you don't have to look like foolish attempting to articulate why the policies you advocate for are good.

Second, in doing so you insult Teaman and call him a troll just cause he asked you to explain yourself.

Third, you finish your post with a conclusory statement about what internet righties will sacrifice and what republican elites don't care about, without supporting such conclusions with any facts or reasoning whatsoever.

It's so predictable.  I love it.  You could be a case study in the liberal thought process or more accurately the lack of a thought process.  <<< that's my conclusion but notice I support my conclusions with facts and reasoning, unlike you.

Posted by: Mark J
« on: September 16, 2019, 12:49:27 pm »

Slow, very slow...

I am going with trolling on this one.  Hard to believe that tea is that clueless.
 
Amazing how much credibility internet righties are willing to sacrifice to carry the water of republican elites who would not **** on them if they were on fire.
Posted by: NC Yankee
« on: September 16, 2019, 12:10:44 pm »

They don't.  If they did, I have practically wrote a novel that they could pick apart line by line.  They wouldn't be able to pick apart one thing I have mentioned.  So they will stay quiet with me and name call with you.

I guarantee if they explained their political philosophies as detailed as I have, I could quite easily pick it apart and point out numerous clear flaws in logic and reasoning and facts.

I have met very few who are even capable of logically discussing their beliefs using facts logic and reason.  95 percent just name call and make conclusory statements without any support for their conclusions.  The rare instance I have met one that will even attempt an intelligent conversation using facts logic and reason they wind up looking like liberals who try to debate Ben Shapiro on stage.

This is what happens when they try to have intelligent conversations on policy:

https://youtu.be/qSmiZCQP58o

They know this.  So they don't do so.  They shout people down and name call and make conclusory statements.

The black lady on the left in that video is a civil rights attorney and the cream of the crop of the black community and she looks like a bumbling fool when she even attempts to discuss racism.  That's why democrats don't want to have discussions with conservatives.  Much safer for them to shout people down, name call, use conclusory logic, and only have conversations with those who agree with them than to try to defend their positions and look like a fool.
Posted by: NC Yankee
« on: September 16, 2019, 11:56:22 am »

Clue me in. You must have some things in mind. The name calling suggests you don't.

They don't.  If they did, I have practically wrote a novel that they could pick apart line by line.  They wouldn't be able to pick apart one thing I have mentioned.  So they will stay quiet with me and name call with you.

I guarantee if they explained their political philosophies as detailed as I have, I could quite easily pick it apart and point out numerous clear flaws in logic and reasoning and facts.

I have met very few who are even capable of logically discussing their beliefs using facts logic and reason.  95 percent just name call and make conclusory statements without any support for their conclusions.  The rare instance I have met one that will even attempt an intelligent conversation using facts logic and reason they wind up looking like liberals who try to debate Ben Shapiro on stage.

This is what happens when they try to have intelligent conversations on policy:

https://youtu.be/qSmiZCQP58o

They know this.  So they don't do so.  They shout people down and name call and make conclusory statements.
Posted by: NC Yankee
« on: September 16, 2019, 11:46:27 am »

Now democrats can't use racism to convince white coal miners to vote for them.  That is too transparent for everyone. So instead they tell them it's the evil coal mining company owners who have been causing them misery.  The reality is if you took every penny the coal mining company business owner made coal mining every year and gave it all to the workers, which would cause the cobra effect of no one wanting to own a coal mining company, it would be a pittance for each worker.  There are so many workers that dividing that money equally amongst them wouldn't amount to much for any one worker.

I did the calculation for mcdonalds workers once when the $15 wage thing first started gaining headwind.  People were complaining that the CEO made millions and workers made peanuts. I calculated all the money the top execs at corporate make and figured how much of a raise each worker would get if the top expects worked as slaves for free and it was almost nothing.

Lies, lies, and more lies is all the left has.  When one tactical lie won't work, like it's all due to racism, they switch to another lie that it's all because of greedy corporations.

If they didn't want people to be poor and really wanted to help black people and poor people they would tell them everything I have said on this thread is true and that if they want success to the same degree as others they can't make different and worse choices and expect the same results.

Honestly I don't think a lot of people want to hear that.  They want to hear it's someone else's fault.  Democrats play into and take advantage of this psychology. 
Posted by: Teaman
« on: September 16, 2019, 11:39:14 am »

Slow, very slow...

Clue me in. You must have some things in mind. The name calling suggests you don't.

Posted by: NC Yankee
« on: September 16, 2019, 11:19:26 am »

Not only do the things I say explain inequality along racial lines, but even amongst sub populations of white people In America.  White people in West Virginia are not less wealthy on average than white people in California and other states because of racism.  It's for all the same reasons i mentioned above.  For a long time coal mining was the economic backbone of West Virginia's economy.  You could do alright as a coal miner, but a culture built around people aspiring to be coal miners when they grow up isn't going to be as affluent as one that much more frequently aspires to be college graduates and pursue stem degree, become drs, lawyers, white collar, business owners, innovators, etc.

You know why I hate liberal politicians, cause they lie about all this and their lies keep people poor, and that's the way liberal politicians like them.  The lies are so transparent, I don't understand how so many people cannot see through them.  We could actually craft solutions of people stopped lying.
Posted by: NC Yankee
« on: September 16, 2019, 10:37:26 am »

When you don't have a culture of innovation and one that doesn't value and stress education and innovation, the sad truth is election based forms of government tend to not work so well because there are too many dopey people voting and you get what you vote for.  That's why democrats like to bus in highly uneducated people from highly dysfunctional communities to vote.

A very similar phenomena causes minorities to lag behind in america.  What percentage of blacks and Latinos have stem degrees?  What percentage work as innovators?  What percentage start businesses?  What percentage become drs and lawyers and many other white collar professionals?  What percentage even go to college or graduate high school.  Even when they do these things what are their class rankings, which affect what opportunities one has right out of college.  Even with affirmative action such things are not remedied.   I could go on and on.  Compare these percentages to white people and Asians.  Across the board they are  much lower for blacks and Hispanics.

You just need ^^^ this and you don't need racism to explain all of the inequality in this country. Those things I mention above alone with cause serious inequality 100 percent of the time regardless of the degree of racism in a society. 

It's not just a rule that applies to America.  Take any country on the planet and have one group of people who graduate high school, go to college, go to graduate school, pursue advanced degrees and become white collar professionals, work in innovative fields as innovators at a much higher statistical rate than another group of people in that same country and I can guarantee you the group who pursues these endeavors at a much higher frequency will be more wealthy in the aggregate.  Nothing short of the other group that lags behind achieving statistical parity will solve this.  No amount of welfare or income redistribution will solve this because even under communism where everyone makes the same amount regardless of such statistical disparities, someone with a PhD in rocket science is going to more often than not make better choices with their money than someone who dropped out of High school.  While communism would make folks more equally miserable and poor, it still wouldn't solve all inequality and income redistribution to any significant degree causes a whole bunch of cobra effects that make everyone less wealthy in the aggregate.
Posted by: NC Yankee
« on: September 16, 2019, 09:54:42 am »

all of the Muslim world except tiny oil rich Emirates controlled by monarchies (so the people can't vote and make them awful). 

When you don't have a culture of innovation and one that doesn't value and stress education and innovation, the sad truth is election based forms of government tend to not work so well because there are too many dopey people voting and you get what you vote for.  That's why democrats like to bus in highly uneducated people from highly dysfunctional communities to vote. 
Posted by: NC Yankee
« on: September 16, 2019, 09:43:45 am »

Ancient Egypt was a great nation, because it could make a lot of food.  At one point in time to be a world power that's all you needed was a lot of food and a bunch of people who could carry pointy sticks and shields and invade and conquer other nations.  Much of the world has not moved on from this mentality.  Much of the poorer countries are only good at making more people who have no opportunities because these areas don't make any sophisticated goods anyone wants to buy and they don't innovate and create new products and entire new industries.  Look at how much wealth the invention of the personal computer and silicon wafer and semiconductors and smart phones has brought America.  There are entire industries built around these innovations.  Mexico exports corona beer and tequila and Avocados drugs and for a long time poverty..  What technologically advanced goods do they make.  Even cars have been around for 120 years and if they tried to make them they would suck and probably cost too much for the value you get.

That's why these places are poor.  It's not the CIA.  It's not colonialism.  It's their culture and way of life.  They are not innovative cultures.
Posted by: NC Yankee
« on: September 16, 2019, 09:32:13 am »

It's also their fault that we advanced.  There was a huge incentive for Europeans to figure out a way to bypass these areas for world trade, cause it cut out a lot of middlemen.  That's what motivated Europeans to set sail and explore the world.  Profit and cost reduction. Most of the world never adapted to this disruption to the old way.  The end of the golden age of Islam coincides with the start of the Renaissance.

They rest of the world was already behind the 8 ball, then. Then the industrial revolution happened and they fell even further behind.  Some Asian counties have adapted, like Japan, South Korea, and China is developing too, but they did so by becoming technologically advanced, like the West and developing and making value added goods that they can profit from much more so than just selling raw natural resource.

Developed nations need to stop blaming ourselves for these people being backward and flooding our countries with them isn't gonna fix the problem.  Diversity is the reason why half the square area of every large American city is not very nice.
Posted by: NC Yankee
« on: September 16, 2019, 09:17:05 am »

What would be their interests?

Apparently being told they are oppressed victims. 

They also like told that it's white peoples fault they ruin places like Detroit and pretty much half the square area of every large American city, not to mention all of Latin America, all of Africa, all of the Muslim world except tiny oil rich Emirates controlled by monarchies (so the people can't vote and make them awful).  They haven't figured out the pattern and that the common denominator to all these awful places is them living in these places ... it's gotta be the white people who don't even live there that are screwing it up for them.  Meanwhile white people make Western Europe, Canada, America, Australia, New Zealand.  They like to be told that we do and they don't is all our fault and they are just innocent victims who play no role in this.

It's our fault that white nations have figured out how to manufacture satellites, computers, rockets that go into space, airplanes, cell phones, many other things too and make medical advances, and constantly innovate and minorities in their native lands can pretty much only extract natural resources from the earth and grow food and breed uncontrollably and supply a cheap labor force for western nations, cause they don't know how to make anything more sophisticated that anyone would actually want to buy.  Seriously, what value added goods dod Latin America, Africa, or the Muslim world make and develop that people want to buy around the world?  There is nothing.  I can't think of anything.  Can anyone? 

How are they supposed to be prosperous when they can only grow food and dig up natural resources so advanced nations can buy them and make them into more sophisticated products that they can sell and profit from?  This is why they are poor.  This isn't white people's fiault.  It's not our fault we advanced and they didn't.

Their only hope for prosperity in their native lands is if they sit on a bunch of oil or diamonds and even that can't save them cause they lack the society and culture to use such good fortune to become technologically advanced.

They basically still are engaged in the old economy that the world was based on before the industrial revolution.  Their decline began even before that once Europeans figured out to sail around the world for trade.  Places like the Middle East used to make a fortune just by taxing trade routes that had to pass through their lands.  The world changed and they didn't. 
Posted by: Weepy
« on: September 16, 2019, 09:03:25 am »

Trolling,  or are you really that slow?

Slow, very slow...