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Posted by: Jackie
« on: July 03, 2023, 07:08:01 pm »

Why is a guest looking at this old thread right now?

Funny it doestnt seem that long ago to me though. This was from 2019, seems like a month ago to me.
Posted by: Jackie
« on: July 11, 2019, 09:26:53 pm »

It really does no good to sue schools. Schools can't be sued for simple negligence and one  has to prove that it is negligent in other areas which can be hard to prove. Courthouses are immune from lawsuits at least in some states.

I give up on this conversation.
Posted by: Lady luck
« on: July 11, 2019, 09:04:55 pm »

Schools get sued, I don't know about courthouses.
It really does no good to sue schools. Schools can't be sued for simple negligence and one  has to prove that it is negligent in other areas which can be hard to prove. Courthouses are immune from lawsuits at least in some states.
Posted by: Jackie
« on: July 11, 2019, 08:47:55 pm »

I didn't say all hospitals but if you think about a hospital is just a building that the doctors use. Same as a courthouse or a school.

Schools get sued, I don't know about courthouses.
Posted by: Lady luck
« on: July 11, 2019, 07:48:34 pm »

Doesn't sound fair, why should hospitals get off?  Maybe the health industry would be better if this didn't go on?
I didn't say all hospitals but if you think about a hospital is just a building that the doctors use. Same as a courthouse or a school.
Posted by: Jackie
« on: July 11, 2019, 07:18:31 pm »

Most hospitals probably can't be sued but doctor's can, of course,  that is why they pay such a high cost in malpractice insurance to keep.cases out of the court system. In some cases it is why they make you sign forms that you can't sue them.

Doesn't sound fair, why should hospitals get off?  Maybe the health industry would be better if this didn't go on?
Posted by: Lady luck
« on: July 11, 2019, 06:40:51 pm »

Whoever forgets, it's mot a good thing and the Hospital needs to be sued. I would think a Dr. has a big role in this, and the hospital.
Most hospitals probably can't be sued but doctor's can, of course,  that is why they pay such a high cost in malpractice insurance to keep.cases out of the court system. In some cases it is why they make you sign forms that you can't sue them.
Posted by: Jackie
« on: July 11, 2019, 05:42:35 pm »

No, doctors rely on techs and nurses to tell him or her about the instruments in my opinion.

Whoever forgets, it's mot a good thing and the Hospital needs to be sued. I would think a Dr. has a big role in this, and the hospital.
Posted by: Lady luck
« on: July 11, 2019, 07:13:15 am »

No, but really lawyers do help like in hospital suits. For example, like when things go wrong, like leaving intruments in people's bodies after an operation. OOps I forgot. maybe some Dr's have Elzheimers disease or something.
No, doctors rely on techs and nurses to tell him or her about the instruments in my opinion.
Posted by: Jackie
« on: July 10, 2019, 07:19:57 pm »

No, but really lawyers do help like in hospital suits. For example, like when things go wrong, like leaving intruments in people's bodies after an operation. OOps I forgot. maybe some Dr's have Elzheimers disease or something.
Posted by: Jackie
« on: July 10, 2019, 07:16:52 pm »

I guess studies do show a decline, but some studies are exaggerated. Gotta know the difference between true and false studies. Real live proof should solve this problem.

I guess this is why we need Lawyers, to get to the truth, even when they lie lol.
Posted by: Jackie
« on: July 10, 2019, 07:13:46 pm »

My daughter's father in law is a blueberry farmer. He has to hire beekeepers to pollinate his fields. He blames pesticides for the decline of the bee population. 

At the same time, there are people who claim there is no decline. There must be something to it because he has to hire beekeepers.

I guess studies do show a decline, but some studies are exaggerated. Gotta know the difference between true and false studies. Real live proof should solve this problem.
Posted by: Der Fuehrer
« on: July 10, 2019, 04:05:21 pm »


3: Is this data not collected by alternative collection points? A quick google search has netted some good results (seems like beekeepers would know this already).

This is why I mentioned beekeepers being an invested lot.  Much of what is known about honeybees and their habits is learned through observation by beekeepers themselves.
Posted by: Window Lickers Union
« on: July 10, 2019, 02:50:33 pm »

A lot of Trump hysteria in here.

1: It's temporary. (Article reads like it might only be for 1 quarter)
2: Bee's are not all of a sudden going to die because this governmental data collection point stops collecting data. For one, the data collection isn't stopped (See #3)
3: Is this data not collected by alternative collection points? A quick google search has netted some good results (seems like beekeepers would know this already).
4: Reread 1-3 until the hysteria subsides.

I will have to agree with others on the over usage of chemicals along with farmland, population growth and other factors having a detriment to bee populations. I have also noticed a decline in  fireflies and butterflies over the last 30 years, so it's just not the bee's that are being affected.















Posted by: Lady luck
« on: July 10, 2019, 07:40:00 am »

This is absolutely true.  Every beekeeper that I know has experienced losses.   The pesticides we use in the agriculture industry and around our homes have created serious issues for the bees.  Not only are they toxic to the bees, but they create an environment in which detrimental parasites are allowed to thrive and multiply in the hive.  Gone are the days of organic beekeeping.   My grandpa NEVER treated his bees with anything.  Try that today and you wouldn't have any bees to keep.
Exactly.  We have some day lilies around  here and they attract the bees and butterflies. We don't spray our flowers with anything.